Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 216. (Read 734937 times)
I am not sure what is this game Russians are playing with those trucks, but seeing that most of them are barely loaded is very strange.
Do you have any doubt that those pictured in the video are not real Ukrainian soldiers?
Do I have any reason to doubt any of those articles?
http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1785454/
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1773239
http://kprf.ru/international/ussr/132803.html
http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1112196/
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/07/08/n_6290525.shtml
Probably yes , because of this : http://russian.rt.com/article/39825.
First your numbers where wrong. ADMIT IT!
No. Even the OSCE has confirmed the numbers.
Second , there is no report fo those poeple staying in Russia. ADMIT IT!
There are.
http://lifenews.ru/news/137842
Back you proof by something else rather that a video filmed with a "hidden camera" in HD!
Do you have any doubt that those pictured in the video are not real Ukrainian soldiers?
Ukraine does not (want to) acknowledge the load from Russia as humanitarian aid, (so they don't let it be sent to the people being massacred in Lugansk):
http://ria.ru/world/20140816/1020267810.html
http://ria.ru/world/20140816/1020267810.html
Nemo , please help me with the math.
The rusian have sent over 2000 tones of help in 280 trucks.
The RIA news claimed that the trucks are only half loaded or even less because they are new bla blbla... etc.And from the pictures some don't even carry 1/4 of their max load.
The maximum load of a truck like those in the pictures is 9.6 tonnes (checked).
Some thing is wrong here.
Ukraine does not (want to) acknowledge the load from Russia as humanitarian aid, (so they don't let it be sent to the people being massacred in Lugansk):
http://ria.ru/world/20140816/1020267810.html
http://ria.ru/world/20140816/1020267810.html
http://www.osce.org/om/122341
What more do you want?
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KAMENSK-SHAKHTINSKY, Russian Federation, 4 August 2014 - On 1-2 August 2014 Ukrainian army officers made contact with the OSCE Observer Mission (OM) to request OSCE assistance to open a passageway to the Gukovo border crossing point (BCP) of the Russian Federation (RF) for several hundred Ukrainian servicemen. On 2 August, an initial group of 12 Ukrainian troops crossed into the RF. On 4 August, the OSCE Observer Mission witnessed the passage of 437 Ukrainian servicemen. They were sent to a nearby transit facility and, according to the local Russian authorities, all of them were set to return to Ukraine in the hours to come.
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At 15:00 on 4 August, the OM met with the Gukovo BCP commander and the regional border commander. The OM enquired about the transfer of the servicemen from RF to Ukraine and learned that 192 were already on their way by bus to Ukraine and that the others would follow in the next bus. The Observer Mission also enquired about any asylum request and none was reported. The cell phones of the 72nd brigade commander and border guard commander were not reachable to confirm this information.
What more do you want?
Here is the problem. 192 returned to Ukraine. The remainder still remains in Russia.
And here is hidden camera video of Ukrainian soldiers saying that they have lost more than 10,000 men.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77lO7KmftI
First your numbers where wrong. ADMIT IT!
Second , there is no report fo those poeple staying in Russia. ADMIT IT!
The OSCE denied that ANY soldier requested permission to stay in Russia!
Back you proof by something else rather that a video filmed with a "hidden camera" in HD!
http://www.osce.org/om/122341
What more do you want?
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KAMENSK-SHAKHTINSKY, Russian Federation, 4 August 2014 - On 1-2 August 2014 Ukrainian army officers made contact with the OSCE Observer Mission (OM) to request OSCE assistance to open a passageway to the Gukovo border crossing point (BCP) of the Russian Federation (RF) for several hundred Ukrainian servicemen. On 2 August, an initial group of 12 Ukrainian troops crossed into the RF. On 4 August, the OSCE Observer Mission witnessed the passage of 437 Ukrainian servicemen. They were sent to a nearby transit facility and, according to the local Russian authorities, all of them were set to return to Ukraine in the hours to come.
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At 15:00 on 4 August, the OM met with the Gukovo BCP commander and the regional border commander. The OM enquired about the transfer of the servicemen from RF to Ukraine and learned that 192 were already on their way by bus to Ukraine and that the others would follow in the next bus. The Observer Mission also enquired about any asylum request and none was reported. The cell phones of the 72nd brigade commander and border guard commander were not reachable to confirm this information.
What more do you want?
Here is the problem. 192 returned to Ukraine. The remainder still remains in Russia.
And here is hidden camera video of Ukrainian soldiers saying that they have lost more than 10,000 men.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77lO7KmftI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzGSVkHZZnc We're not fighting separatists, we're fighting the russian federation
Like the other fake story about the soldiers who requested to stay in Russia but all returned?
Do you have any proof to claim that all of them have returned? Out of the 438 soldiers who crossed in to Russia last week, only 180 have agreed to return to Kiev. Russian TV channels are still showing interviews with them, in the camp set for these people in the Rostov Oblast, Russia. Even the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence have said that only around 200 have returned from Russia.
http://www.osce.org/om/122341
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KAMENSK-SHAKHTINSKY, Russian Federation, 4 August 2014 - On 1-2 August 2014 Ukrainian army officers made contact with the OSCE Observer Mission (OM) to request OSCE assistance to open a passageway to the Gukovo border crossing point (BCP) of the Russian Federation (RF) for several hundred Ukrainian servicemen. On 2 August, an initial group of 12 Ukrainian troops crossed into the RF. On 4 August, the OSCE Observer Mission witnessed the passage of 437 Ukrainian servicemen. They were sent to a nearby transit facility and, according to the local Russian authorities, all of them were set to return to Ukraine in the hours to come.
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At 15:00 on 4 August, the OM met with the Gukovo BCP commander and the regional border commander. The OM enquired about the transfer of the servicemen from RF to Ukraine and learned that 192 were already on their way by bus to Ukraine and that the others would follow in the next bus. The Observer Mission also enquired about any asylum request and none was reported. The cell phones of the 72nd brigade commander and border guard commander were not reachable to confirm this information.
What more do you want?
Like the other fake story about the soldiers who requested to stay in Russia but all returned?
Do you have any proof to claim that all of them have returned? Out of the 438 soldiers who crossed in to Russia last week, only 180 have agreed to return to Kiev. Russian TV channels are still showing interviews with them, in the camp set for these people in the Rostov Oblast, Russia. Even the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence have said that only around 200 have returned from Russia.
And again the rebels are victorious and victorious again and again...
Ukrainian army has arrived at Nyzhnya Krynka , and conquered Maloorlivka.
Of course that won't match with the DNR map who are keeping silent about the Ukraine flag inside Luhansk.
Ukrainian army has arrived at Nyzhnya Krynka , and conquered Maloorlivka.
Of course that won't match with the DNR map who are keeping silent about the Ukraine flag inside Luhansk.
Ukraine soldiers captured - They refused to surrender with their mates in the S. Cauldron
17 more Ukrainian soldiers have crossed over the border to Russia (72nd Brigade) from the Southern Cauldron today. Meanwhile the Russians have set up a camp for those Ukrainian soldiers, who have refused to go back to Kiev.
Like the other fake story about the soldiers who requested to stay in Russia but all returned?
Ukraine soldiers captured - They refused to surrender with their mates in the S. Cauldron
17 more Ukrainian soldiers have crossed over the border to Russia (72nd Brigade) from the Southern Cauldron today. Meanwhile the Russians have set up a camp for those Ukrainian soldiers, who have refused to go back to Kiev.
Gleb Bazov @gbazov 18 min.
#Ukraine Soldier: There are more dead than in nine years in Afghanistan. Guys were ripped to pieces. We gathered them. #CRIMINAL #POROSHENKO
Babay @Truth_Seeker_11 15 min.
Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary urge the #EU to lift sanctions against #Russia, as Europe loses more from sanctions than Russia
#Ukraine Soldier: There are more dead than in nine years in Afghanistan. Guys were ripped to pieces. We gathered them. #CRIMINAL #POROSHENKO
Babay @Truth_Seeker_11 15 min.
Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary urge the #EU to lift sanctions against #Russia, as Europe loses more from sanctions than Russia
Ukraine soldiers captured - They refused to surrender with their mates in the S. Cauldron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LEPIF86loQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LEPIF86loQE
18+ Graphic Donetsk utility repair crew killed by Ukraine Gov shelling # warcrimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voxfpGewjcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voxfpGewjcw
Footage of elite milita unit Motorola in the battlefield.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=23iXifqh_38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=23iXifqh_38
17 Ukrainian soldier cross into Russia, lay down arms
http://rt.com/news/180772-ukrainian-soldiers-cross-russia/
http://rt.com/news/180772-ukrainian-soldiers-cross-russia/
Destruction of 24th mechanized brigade
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvJV6S8CcAAJEgE.jpg:large
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#Ukrainian flag flown over a police station in #Luhansk's Zhovtnevy district @Dbnmjr
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