Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 225. (Read 734937 times)

Fighters from punitive battalion Azov have been liquidated near Ivajlovsk:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407680276

A column of Kiev punitive forces has been destroyed this night, including about 20 vehicles, 3 tanks:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407680498

Video of the consequence of this morning's shelling of Donetsk:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407681640

Ljashko suggest Kiev does not rebuild cities, whose residents will be suspected in sympathising with the resistance (and a lot of other things):
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407677255

And Kiev has other things to think about:

Hungarian and Rusin communities in the West-Ukraine unite in their fight for federalisation:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407670133

This is from your sources:


http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2014-08-09-EU-Ukraine/id-a3f71374584547f6b5b04254fad1f74e

Seems like the map is pretty accurate:
34 minutes ago
Battles in Krasnyy Luch

What i find really interesting is that you can select a date and check the tweets from that date

If i switch to 10 July i see battles around slavyansk , siversk , Dokuchajevsk , Stanytsia  , pretty far away from where the rebels are claiming the war is now

Switch to june 10?

It's like Hitler's final victory while the allied crossed the Rhine

I am not avoiding anything. No one said it was the same army in any of the reports (or am I missing something)?

The title is obsolete. It's should be more about the Left-bank Ukraine vs. Right-bank Ukraine. And the title was misleading from the beginning. It wasn't about "way to Russia" it was about "way to self-determination and federalisation that was met with bullets from Kiev".

You're really avoiding the question.

It's like saying that the NAZI army was encircled at Stalingrad and then another victorious battle for the soviet forces when they repelled the same army group from Samara 10 hours later.

The rebels claimed they have encircled and killed 3000 Ukrainian soldiers that don't feel that entrapped to me.

Fact is that the title is already obsolete.
kharkov , Sloviansk , kramatorsk.....

The battle maps change almost hourly. It's like the civil war under Polish intervention of the 1918 all over again. There is no uniform Ukrainian army - there are disparate groups, belonging to various oligarchs and factions fighting here and there, and destroying as much as they can in the process.

1) look on the map where Krasnyj Luch  is.

2) If this news is true then how was there a battle in the town mentioned above?

If the Ukrainian troops have been halted ( 3000 killed , are your serious) near the town of amvrosiivka , how did they managed to get 50 km in the north to fight at krasnyj luch?

Now the claims of fighting near lutugino , let's again look at the map and that is in the south east of luhansk again.

I don't know. News from today:

Ukrainian attack against Krasnyj Luch has been repelled:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407620117

Krasnyj Luch is controlled by the freedom fighters, the enemy suffers heavy losses:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407629876

Junta's losses in the Southern pot - thousands killed:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407630742

Some of the machinery captured by the freedom fighters from the Southern pot:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407627204

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More:

Lutugino in flames. Exploded houses, damaged churches, and buildings:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407628677

Through the eyes of the enemy. Kiev junta's artillery preparing to shell Donetsk:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407618233

Anti-momilisation protests continue across the whole of Ukraine, but are unreported in the media:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407630548

Report from Donetsk. Ukrainian army intensified destruction of towns of the Republic using artillery fire:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407665981

The last item does not sound like the actions of a winning army, but rather like actions of Nazis, hell bent on destroying as much as possible after themselves.

Seems like the rebels are starting to get their asses kicked

Pretty interesting website

http://liveuamap.com/

Also funny how they start asking for a ceasefire as soon as they were cut from the border with russia.

'Spreading the truth': Spanish volunteers join fight against Kiev in E. Ukraine (VIDEO)
http://rt.com/news/179240-spanish-volunteers-eastern-ukraine/

This is how Russian TV films massive demonstrations in support of Russia   

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=327530090747305

During the night more Russian military equipment was brought into Donetsk - 122mm howitzers...
Putin is clearly not giving up and will rather destroy the city and its population than accept defeat. This is how he protects "Russian speakers"

Video > http://inforesist.org/nochyu-v-doneck-voshla-kolonna-rossijskix-sau-gvozdika-dnyami-ranee-kolonny-gradov-video/

I would just say that it was a net exporter of foods. It seems that they will be mostly relying on humanitarian aid through the coming winter and what follows after that (provided Ukraine would still exist as we know it)...

Ukraine does not import any significant quantities of food products from outside. It is a net exporter of food products. The shortage in Donetsk and Lugansk is caused by the army siege, which is preventing food products from the neighboring villages being delivered to these cities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSpStuMVEIc

http://dnr.today/

DONETSK PARTISANS WHACK RUSSIAN TERRORIST UNIT

Us non-Ukies learn that the people have a rich partisan tradition, not necessarily fighting for the same cause (WWII), but unified at least in partisan skill.
"Rien ne change"...

A partisan group in Donetsk has apparently destroyed a GRAD multiple missile launcher and its crew. It had been firing on the city. Civilian lives the terrorists would have taken have thus been spared...by the "partizany"...

Err...

UKR: http://tsn.ua/politika/pid-doneckom-partizani-rozstrilyali-ekipazh-gradu-teroristiv-zmi-362329.html

RUS: http://inforesist.org/partizanskij-otryad-unichtozhil-ekipazh-grada-kotoryj-rasstrelival-doneck/

A joke of the day, to brighten up the misery:

- What Russian football team do you favour?
- I think Donetsk Shahter has the best outlook.
- And what about Kiev Dynamo?
- I am not into Polish football.

Vladimir Putin is a thug and liar, says top British envoy

British ambassador to the United States Sir Peter Westmacott says West’s increasingly firm response to Russia over Ukraine and the downing of Flight MH17 is beginning to have an impact on the Kremlin



 Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, is a “thug” and a “liar”, one of Britain’s most senior ambassadors has said, as the EU prepares to approve tough new sanctions against Moscow.

Sir Peter Westmacott said the West’s increasingly firm response to Russia was beginning to have an impact on the Kremlin.

The British ambassador to the United States said Moscow’s aggression in Ukraine was starting to look like “the wrong call”.

He spoke as the Ministry of Defence announced that a battle group of 1,350 troops and armoured vehicles, including Challenger tanks, would join Nato exercises in Poland.

The Government said Exercise Black Eagle in south-west Poland would see Britain’s biggest deployment to Eastern Europe since 2008.
 The exercises were designed to reassure Nato’s eastern members that the alliance would shield them from Russian aggression.

Sir Peter said Mr Putin’s behaviour in Ukraine had been “thuggish, dishonest and reckless” and he “thought he’d done pretty well after he stole Crimea”.

“It doesn’t look so good now,” he said on the US cable channel MSNBC, part of the NBC group. “It’s starting to look like this was the wrong call. This is a defining moment for what is going on in Ukraine.

“We’ve had some very bad behaviour from the Russian side for a long time now, and now we’ve had this terrible atrocity — the shooting down of the aircraft. We have to change the cost/benefit analysis for Putin, for the Russian people, for the government that they have elected there.”

Nato has stepped up manoeuvres in Eastern Europe since the annexation of Crimea with generals believing the alliance needs to reset its stance towards a more aggressive Kremlin.

Exercise Black Eagle is the latest Nato war game to be bolstered at short notice in the area.  Military sources said the exercise at Poland’s Zagan training area had been long planned, but significantly beefed up in recent weeks.

Polish forces and other Nato nations are expected to join the exercise. The bulk of the British forces are expected to come from the King’s Royal Hussars, though Army sources said a final decision had not yet been made.

Michael Fallon, the Defence Secretary, said the exercise showed Britain’s “sustained and substantial support to Nato’s eastern border”. Britain was not ruling out “further enhancements”, he said.

The confrontation over Ukraine is also likely to dominate a Nato summit in Wales in September. Mr Fallon said: “We have a strong opportunity at the Nato summit to discuss how we will continue our response to Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea and its destabilisation of eastern Ukraine.”

The sending of an armoured battle group is by far Britain’s largest show of military backing to Eastern Europe since the crisis in Ukraine began.

Four RAF Typhoon fighter jets were sent to Lithuania earlier in the year to reinforce Nato air patrols over the Baltic nations and British troops have also joined smaller military manoeuvres.

Nato generals are calling for the alliance to pour military resources into Eastern Europe and build up a deterrent against Russia after years in which alliance members have cut spending and focused on conflicts elsewhere.

Gen Philip Breedlove, Nato’s top commander in Europe, said last week he wanted to transform a military base in Eastern Europe into a staging post stocked with weapons, ammunition and ration packs in case Nato troops had to rush to the area in the event of a crisis.

Western leaders are concerned that the Kremlin has chosen to escalate the conflict in Ukraine, even after the downing of MH17, by carrying out cross border artillery strikes and by sending more equipment to separatists.

Tony Blinken, a national security adviser to Barak Obama, said existing sanctions did not appear to have forced Mr Putin to back off. He said: “We’ve seen convoys of tanks, multiple rocket launchers, artillery, and armoured vehicles. There’s evidence it’s preparing to deliver even more powerful multiple rocket launchers.”

Dutch and Australian investigators were once again prevented from reaching the site of the Malaysia Airlines crash as fighting continued nearby.

Ukraine forces advanced on Donetsk, the pro-Russian separatist capital, from the east and there was fighting close to the site near the town of Torez.

Later on Monday, Igor Girkin, the rebels’ military chief, denied his troops had a Buk surface-to-air missile as he refused to be blamed for the downing of the jet.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/10996752/Vladimir-Putin-is-a-thug-and-liar-says-top-British-envoy.html

ruSSian nazi in Crimea

Пyтинcкиe бaйкepы в Кpымy ycтpoили шaбaш c фaкeлaми и cвacтикoй



http://obozrevatel.com/politics/05814-putinskie-bajkeryi-v-kryimu-ustroili-shabash-s-fakelnyim-shestviem-i-svastikoj.htm