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Some commentators think this address to the people of Zaporozhje to meet tomorrow to rally for creation of Zaporozhje Republic might actually be a provocation, staged by SBU to catch those who do not  see eye to eye with the current Kiev junta. The wording and choice of proclamations is a bit strange.

Zaporozhye is tricky. More than 60% of the people are pro-Russian, but there is a lot of support for the Right Sector among sections of the population as well. In addition, a lot of Neo-Nazis are camping there after travelling all the way from Lvov and Ternopol.
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Some commentators think this address to the people of Zaporozhje to meet tomorrow to rally for creation of Zaporozhje Republic might actually be a provocation, staged by SBU to catch those who do not  see eye to eye with the current Kiev junta. The wording and choice of proclamations is a bit strange.
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Kerry: Taped phone calls show Russia directing Ukraine unrest
posted at 8:41 am on April 29, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Alternate headline: Second look at the NSA? In a closed-door meeting last Friday, John Kerry claimed that Western intel had captured telephone conversations that prove Russia has directed the separatist groups in eastern Ukraine in their campaign to destabilize the country. Some of the handlers are the same as in Crimea, Kerry claimed in the meeting, which Josh Rogin and Eli Lake exclusively report for The Daily Beast:

    “Intel is producing taped conversations of intelligence operatives taking their orders from Moscow and everybody can tell the difference in the accents, in the idioms, in the language. We know exactly who’s giving those orders, we know where they are coming from,” Kerry said at a private meeting of the Trilateral Commission in Washington. A recording of Kerry’s remarks was obtained by The Daily Beast.

    Kerry didn’t name specific Russian officials implicated in the recordings. But he claimed that the intercepts provided proof of the Russians deliberately fomenting unrest in eastern Ukraine—and lying about it to U.S. officials and the public.

    “It’s not an accident that you have some of the same people identified who were in Crimea and in Georgia and who are now in east Ukraine,” said Kerry. “This is insulting to everybody’s intelligence, let alone to our notions about how we ought to be behaving in the 21st century. It’s thuggism, it’s rogue state-ism. It’s the worst order of behavior.” …

    Kerry has asserted publicly before that Russian intelligence officers were the “catalyst” behind the riots and government building takeovers in eastern Ukraine. But on Friday he told the private audience why he—and the U.S. intelligence community—were so sure of this assessment.

If so, then American intel has caught up after missing in its analysis of Crimea and Russia. Perhaps the Obama administration has also caught up with reality. After scolding the EU for its part in exacerbating the Ukraine crisis with its support for the Euromaidan protests, Kerry blasted Sergei Lavrov for being a big, fat, un-reset-button liar. If that paraphrase sounds undiplomatic, Kerry’s actual language wasn’t much less plain:

    “Right now there is not a negotiation; there is a confrontation. I’m sad to report I’ve never seen such a complete, miserable, unaccountable, disgraceful walk away from a set of promises and understandings than what has taken place,” Kerry said. ““I’ve had six conversations with Lavrov in the last weeks. The last one was kafta-esque, it was other planet, it was just bizarre. Nobody is better at telling you that red is blue and black is white… That’s what we are dealing with.”

Well … yes. That’s what Obama administration critics have said since the Reset Button fiasco five years ago. That’s what we said when Obama unilaterally canceled the missile shield program in eastern Europe, too, and pretty much what we’ve said about Russia all along. For those five years, Obama’s critics were called a bunch of revanchists and Cold War obsessives. Talk about Kafka-esque. Welcome to the non-Metamorphosis of Moscow, Obama administration Russophiles!

What does Russia have to say for itself? A Lavrov deputy waggled the finger of shame at Europe for its “Iron Curtain” sanctions. No, seriously:

    Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said “Iron Curtain”-style US sanctions could harm its hi-tech sector.

    Moscow also said the EU should be ashamed of extending its sanctions and was “under Washington’s thumb”. …

    He added: “This is a revival of a system created in 1949 when Western countries essentially lowered an ‘Iron Curtain’, cutting off supplies of hi-tech goods to the USSR and other countries.”

    A Russian foreign ministry statement said the EU was “doing Washington’s bidding with new unfriendly gestures towards Russia”.

    It added: “If that is how someone in Brussels is hoping to stabilise the situation in Ukraine, then it is a clear indication of a complete lack of understanding of the interior political situation in the country… Are you not ashamed?”

Russian forces seized Crimea, staged a phony plebiscite, and Russian-directed forces are doing the same thing in eastern Ukraine … and it’s Europe that should be ashamed. I’d mention Kafka again here, but this is less shocking for those who didn’t think that centuries of Russian imperialism and Soviet-style propaganda ended with the fall of the Berlin Wall, especially with a former KGB lieutenant colonel setting himself up as tsar.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/29/kerry-taped-phone-calls-show-russia-directing-ukraine-unrest/
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These two. Riot police in Lugansk return to their dislocation base, with people letting them go in peace, and chanting "Well done, guys!"

I'd say that the policemen do use their brains more wisely, when compared to those right-wing nuts. Just compare the salaries of the policemen in Russia and Ukraine. No more explanations needed.
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These two. Riot police in Lugansk return to their dislocation base, with people letting them go in peace, and chanting "Well done, guys!"
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^^^^ The next will be either Kharkov or Odessa.
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People's Republic of Lugansk is here to stay!



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Storming of Lugansk administration building.
One of the commentators wrote: "Everything repeats itself. The administration buildings in the West of Ukraine were taken in the same way." Another replied: "But it's forever in Lugansk." Smiley

Liked that the publisher used image stabilisation in video post-processing.
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"EU, shame on you!" I think that would make a good slogan. At leas after this:

EU ‘should be ashamed’ after sanctions on Russia - Moscow
http://rt.com/news/155620-eu-japan-sanctions-russia/

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“Instead of forcing the Kiev clique to sit down with south-eastern Ukraine to negotiate the country’s future political system, our partners are toeing Washington’s line to take more unfriendly gestures towards Russia,” the statement declared.

“If somebody in Brussels hopes to stabilize the situation in Ukraine by this, it is evidence of a total lack of understanding of the internal political situation in that country and invites local neo-Nazis to continue their lawlessness and thuggery towards the peaceful civilians of the south-east,” the statement said. “Are you not ashamed?”

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Russian Senate Speaker Valentina Matvienko, who was targeted by a previous round of personal sanctions, said Russia “may thank the West, because with their actions they are consolidating further the Russian society, while Russia has enough resilience to respond to any possible damage from such sanctions.”

 Grin Tongue

Also:
Anti-Kiev protesters take control of govt building in Lugansk Region, east Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/155640-protesters-government-building-ukraine/

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“The building is ours. That’s it,” local protest leader Oleg Dereko told RIA Novosti.

No injuries or violence were reported during the takeover.

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^^^^ ROFL... клятi мocкaлi  = damn Muscovites (Russians).
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The terrorist dogs of Mariupol: they sing along to the Russian anthem!  Grin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_tlrUMQ4J4

That is bayan.
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The terrorist dogs of Mariupol: they sing along to the Russian anthem!  Grin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_tlrUMQ4J4

Everyone seems to be defecting in Eastern Ukraine. First the Ukrainian soldiers and the interior ministry troops defected to the pro-Russian side. Then the military dolphins defected. And now the dogs..... ROFLMAO.  Grin
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