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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 41. (Read 734725 times)

legendary
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I'm not sure, but it seems as fake.

However, there is enough evidence of barbaric tortures and denial of medical treatment. Despite that this particular video looks like fake, I won't be surprised in case if this would happen for real. These "people" aren't human.
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Webster Tarpley Eyewitness Report from Donetsk People’s Republic

Published on Apr 26, 2015
World Crisis Radio - April 25, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ssgkGeY7qA
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Yes, and a good chunk of the military defected after the mob/nazis took power and most of the rest would probably be happy to join the Russian military.
legendary
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So, sonny, did the Russians help you? 2015

The answer is "Yes". Russia is housing some 3 million Ukrainians right now, and these people provide a very large part of the current Ukrainian GDP in terms of remittances. In addition to this, some 700,000 people have applied for either refugee status or asylum in Russia and they are currently receiving benefits from the Russian government.
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It´s just some fruitcake that likes mob/nazi junk because it fits his own mentality. Forget it. Usually lasts here about fifteen minutes per month if that.
legendary
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Nothing ever changes...

So, sonny, did the Poles help you? 16th Century
So, sonny, did the Swedes help you? 1709
So, sonny, did the Austrians help you? 1872
So, sonny, did the Germans help you? 1941
So, sonny, did the Americans help you? 2014

https://nyka-huldra.livejournal.com/10105035.html

So, sonny, did the Russians help you? 2015


Actually, yes. Apart from the fact that the people that should be helped there are Russians, Russian Federation sent innumerabloe tonnes of humanitarian aid to help cope with the Nazi aggression, and Russia is mediating a peaceful outcome so that Russians of Novorossia would not be slaughtered further. Alas, if Russia went with guns ablasing to defend the 10 million Russian population of Novorossia, we'd have WWIII right about now.

Oh, and I see another NATO-troll, in the face of Rassah activated, probably signalling an impending intensification of American aggression in Novorossia.



Over the last 24 hours Ukrainians violated the now de-facto defunct ceasefire 54 time - shelling various cities of Donetsk Republic. One soldier of the Donetsk army has been killed. In Lugansk Republic, Ukrainians shelled the railway, wounding two engineers and damaging a locomotive.
legendary
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personally my problem is the rapists, the rest are sensitive, and discussion are possible, but for the rapists, death, shall we agree on that?

Agreed! http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-dovgan-public-abuse-donetsk/26561342.html

But that, of course, is pretty standard for old Soviet style Russia. Accuse some innocent person of being an enemy of the state just to create an enemy for the locals to hate. You guys ever read 1984? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate
legendary
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Flight MH-17, whatever became of that story ?

On 30 March 2015, the JIT released a Russian-language video calling for witnesses in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions who might have seen a Buk missile system. The video included some previously undisclosed recordings allegedly of tapped phone conversations between rebel fighters about the Buk. In one recording, of a conversation a few hours after the shoot down, a fighter says that a member of the Buk’s accompanying crew had been left behind at a checkpoint. In another alleged recording, dated the day after the shootdown, a rebel says the Buk system and its crew had been brought from Russia by “the Librarian." The video presents a "scenario" whereby a BUK missile was transported on a Volvo low loader truck from Sjevernyi, a town located within a kilometer of the Russian border, to Donetsk during the night of 16/17 July.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olQNpTxSnTo

Russian TV Inadvertently Demonstrates MH17 Wasn’t Shot Down by Aircraft Cannon Fire
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2014/10/11/russian-tv-inadvertently-demonstrates-mh17-wasnt-shot-down-by-aircraft-cannon-fire/

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“Of course [it is] an incredible situation: how can Ukraine, one of the two suspected parties, ever be offered such an agreement?”

Because, besides Russia, no other country actually "suspects" Ukraine.
legendary
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Well, with the Crimea and Donbass gone there´s really not that much left for the mob to steal and exploit in Ukraine.


You're forgetting about the giant gas field near Lviv. Only the development in Donetsk one was disrupted by Russians. The development of the Lviv one is being finalized right now. Russia's gas monopoly may get broken yet (what, you thought this was was political?)
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Well, fortunately the western mob is in exceptionally good financial shape to pick up the slack

Ukraine may lose Chinese investments due to outlawing communism


Also, it always makes me shed a small tear when I see bitcoiners defend communism...  Cry

Well, I never shed any tear when I see sullen and clueless idiots manufacturing some opinions for me. It´s just par for the course around these parts.
legendary
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I am not sure whether Putin is interested in recognizing these territories. Probably he wants Donbass to stay in Ukraine. He might not be willing to fund the pension payments to 7 million additional people, especially during this difficult economic situation.

Don't forget that by keeping the area in conflict, instead of simply annexing it, he is keeping Ukraine in a "disputed borders" status, which prevents it from being able to join NATO. That was pretty much one of the main reasons for the whole thing, just like in Romania and Georgia.
legendary
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Well, fortunately the western mob is in exceptionally good financial shape to pick up the slack

Ukraine may lose Chinese investments due to outlawing communism


Also, it always makes me shed a small tear when I see bitcoiners defend communism...  Cry
legendary
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The Crimea Pearl gone, Donbass gone. Malorussia soon gone. Poroshenko going to the gallows for his war crimes and mass murder or heading for the mob´s bosom. It´s all falling apart.

LOL! Wow! That's absolutely the opposite of what everyone inside Ukraine actually thinks. Everyone is fine with Poroshenko and the current situation, and is only worried about Russia starting a full-on war. Damn you guys get some strange sources.
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"PLEASE SCULPT YOUR SHIT BEFORE THROWING. Thank U"

Yes, they´ll try something for the sake of appearances most likely. The country is falling apart, the economy is collapsing so they´ll need some diversions. And the mob wants them to poke the big bad bear. But I doubt much will come of it.

Now; as for the strategy of the Donbass forces maybe they could try something on the flank down there at the sea of Azov if the junta/mob attacks in the center.

not stupid, but I prefer this one : if they move, nuke your way to Paris and beyond as soon as you have a serious abms in place... it's a mindset that it's attacking Russia, not people, as long as the people will be alive the mindset will reproduce.

question when you say country you take all the nato members and vassal as one? it's seem more appropriate, time to name this entity... suggestions?
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Hello People of Earth!
Nothing ever changes...

So, sonny, did the Poles help you? 16th Century
So, sonny, did the Swedes help you? 1709
So, sonny, did the Austrians help you? 1872
So, sonny, did the Germans help you? 1941
So, sonny, did the Americans help you? 2014

https://nyka-huldra.livejournal.com/10105035.html

So, sonny, did the Russians help you? 2015
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Nothing ever changes...

So, sonny, did the Poles help you? 16th Century
So, sonny, did the Swedes help you? 1709
So, sonny, did the Austrians help you? 1872
So, sonny, did the Germans help you? 1941
So, sonny, did the Americans help you? 2014

https://nyka-huldra.livejournal.com/10105035.html
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I doubt that they´re up to any major offensive operations except of course shelling from afar. Most military forces, even the most pathetic ones, are at least semi-usable for defensive purposes but this one doesn´t even measure up for that as has been evidenced by their miserable performance so far. But of course it´s possible that the mob is for some reason in a hurry to have them hand over more western materiel to the opposition. We´ll see.

In the past few weeks hundreds of Canadian and American troops have landed in Ukraine to train the junta forces. The timing of this is very suspicious. The junta will create some silly excuse and start an all-out offensive onward Donetsk. But I don't think even after all this training and weapons support, the junta forces will be able to match the rebels.

Yes, they´ll try something for the sake of appearances most likely. The country is falling apart, the economy is collapsing so they´ll need some diversions. And the mob wants them to poke the big bad bear. But I doubt much will come of it.

Now; as for the strategy of the Donbass forces maybe they could try something on the flank down there at the sea of Azov if the junta/mob attacks in the center.
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"PLEASE SCULPT YOUR SHIT BEFORE THROWING. Thank U"
I doubt that they´re up to any major offensive operations except of course shelling from afar. Most military forces, even the most pathetic ones, are at least semi-usable for defensive purposes but this one doesn´t even measure up for that as has been evidenced by their miserable performance so far. But of course it´s possible that the mob is for some reason in a hurry to have them hand over more western materiel to the opposition. We´ll see.

In the past few weeks hundreds of Canadian and American troops have landed in Ukraine to train the junta forces. The timing of this is very suspicious. The junta will create some silly excuse and start an all-out offensive onward Donetsk. But I don't think even after all this training and weapons support, the junta forces will be able to match the rebels.

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