Well, with the Crimea and Donbass gone there´s really not that much left for the mob to steal and exploit in Ukraine. Which of course explains the rapidly decreasing interest of the mob. Now they´re mainly occupied in somehow trying to scam themselves out of having to finance the crap they put into power in the train-wreck they caused. Those useless military "trainers" and "advisers" are totally laughable. It´s just for appearances.
Ukraine will fall apart in due course and the Russians will move without fanfare into the southern part to tend to the security of the population there. The rest will become a sort of Kosovo 2 most likely. When this all happens it will be viewed as pretty much a foregone conclusion by the mob and its media whores.
Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 44. (Read 734725 times)
The Donbas is Ukraine's industrial heartland. But its coal-based economy is a heavily-subsidized millstone for Ukraine, not a powerhouse, no matter how important its arms exports might be to the Russian military.
http://www.dw.de/the-significance-of-the-donbas/a-17567049
http://www.dw.de/the-significance-of-the-donbas/a-17567049
It is true that many of the industries in the Donbass region are subsidized. But it is the Russian government which is subsidizing them in the form of reduced gas prices, and not Kiev. On the other hand, Donbass is the source of a large part of the Ukrainian Forex reserves, and it provides employment to hundreds of thousands of Western Ukrainians.
How shocking, I posted some material of his just a few weeks ago...R.I.P.
Ukrainian historian Oles Buzina was killed for the truth about Ukrainian history
April 18, 2015
DMITRY GUBIN
Journalist, Kharkov
Politnavigator
Translated from Russian by Kristina Rus
In Memory Of a Kievan
Who was Oles Buzina? Not the warrior, not the official opposition activist, not the leader of public opinion, not a dissident. Oles Buzina was a fierce destroyer of myths. He despised and denounced everything far-fetched and unnatural. When he presented to the Ukrainian readers Taras Shevchenko, taken off a pedestal, the Ukrainian nationalists hated him. Oles was beaten, he himself said that he suffered for Shevchenko. Bruised, sad but not angry, he continued to write, speak and talk about unpleasant truth to the Ukrainian nationalists. He had that right - he was a little Russian [Malo-Russian], of that lovely healthy breed, which is close to Russians, and all civilized people.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/04/ukrainian-historian-oles-buzina-was.html
Ukrainian historian Oles Buzina was killed for the truth about Ukrainian history
April 18, 2015
DMITRY GUBIN
Journalist, Kharkov
Politnavigator
Translated from Russian by Kristina Rus
In Memory Of a Kievan
Who was Oles Buzina? Not the warrior, not the official opposition activist, not the leader of public opinion, not a dissident. Oles Buzina was a fierce destroyer of myths. He despised and denounced everything far-fetched and unnatural. When he presented to the Ukrainian readers Taras Shevchenko, taken off a pedestal, the Ukrainian nationalists hated him. Oles was beaten, he himself said that he suffered for Shevchenko. Bruised, sad but not angry, he continued to write, speak and talk about unpleasant truth to the Ukrainian nationalists. He had that right - he was a little Russian [Malo-Russian], of that lovely healthy breed, which is close to Russians, and all civilized people.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/04/ukrainian-historian-oles-buzina-was.html
In any event; these republics are part of the ruble economy now and ties with Kiev have almost totally broken down. It´s difficult to imagine how that will be reversed from now on. The mob is nuts and the crap it puts into power and supports is nuts, no question about that but I doubt that these nutcases will resort to a full scale war over this territory. They simply don´t have meaningful military forces or might for this. Well, apart from nuclear weapons.
The Russians will no doubt recognize those republics in due course. Or, if Ukraine falls apart, which seems likely, they will simply be integrated into Russia. Someone will have to pick up the pieces. The mob broke it, they´re not going to buy it.
I am not sure whether Putin is interested in recognizing these territories. Probably he wants Donbass to stay in Ukraine. He might not be willing to fund the pension payments to 7 million additional people, especially during this difficult economic situation.
Probably that was the original intention but the growing rift between the Donbass and Kiev not going to leave too much choice for them. It's difficult to imagine the rebels and Porky's lot together in the same country. I'm afraid this going to be a "dollar auction" game again like the Balkan wars, where everybody pouring more resources into the conflict, in the end not really for the gains but only for minimizing the losses.
Steel for Russian tanks
Besides these symbolic justifications, there is one very tangible reason: Numerous companies in eastern Ukraine provide important raw materials and products to Russia - especially for the Russian space and defense industries.
The western world barely noticed the news in March [2014] that the transitional government in Kyiv was suspending military cooperation with Russia. But that didn't make it any less explosive. Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who is also responsible for the defense industry, spoke up immediately, saying Russia had to make a greater effort to become independent from foreign technology and supplies.
But that might not be so easy: Twelve types of Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles, along with spare parts and maintenance, come from the eastern Ukrainian city of Dnipropetrovsk alone. In the Donbas, a special steel is produced for the tanks of the Russian armed forces, and most Russian combat helicopters fly with engines from Zaporizhia. ......
The significance of the Donbas
The Donbas is Ukraine's industrial heartland. But its coal-based economy is a heavily-subsidized millstone for Ukraine, not a powerhouse, no matter how important its arms exports might be to the Russian military.
http://www.dw.de/the-significance-of-the-donbas/a-17567049
Besides these symbolic justifications, there is one very tangible reason: Numerous companies in eastern Ukraine provide important raw materials and products to Russia - especially for the Russian space and defense industries.
The western world barely noticed the news in March [2014] that the transitional government in Kyiv was suspending military cooperation with Russia. But that didn't make it any less explosive. Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who is also responsible for the defense industry, spoke up immediately, saying Russia had to make a greater effort to become independent from foreign technology and supplies.
But that might not be so easy: Twelve types of Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles, along with spare parts and maintenance, come from the eastern Ukrainian city of Dnipropetrovsk alone. In the Donbas, a special steel is produced for the tanks of the Russian armed forces, and most Russian combat helicopters fly with engines from Zaporizhia. ......
The significance of the Donbas
The Donbas is Ukraine's industrial heartland. But its coal-based economy is a heavily-subsidized millstone for Ukraine, not a powerhouse, no matter how important its arms exports might be to the Russian military.
http://www.dw.de/the-significance-of-the-donbas/a-17567049
German Foreign Minister warns off Russia against recognising the Donetsk and Lugansk Republics, saying that it would complicate the process of stabilising the situation in Ukraine:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1914635?isasa
I agree with him. Russia should not recognise those republics per se. Russia should recognise them as integral and historical territories of Russian Federation that were illegitimately ripped from Russian Empire by Lenin in 1917 after a violent coup d'etat.
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1914635?isasa
I agree with him. Russia should not recognise those republics per se. Russia should recognise them as integral and historical territories of Russian Federation that were illegitimately ripped from Russian Empire by Lenin in 1917 after a violent coup d'etat.
I am not sure whether Putin is interested in recognizing these territories. Probably he wants Donbass to stay in Ukraine. He might not be willing to fund the pension payments to 7 million additional people, especially during this difficult economic situation.
edit2: you have more support in America than you think...
That would seem to be the case, BitMos...
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/04/20/not-everyones-asleep-in-the-us-70-years-of-great-victory-florida-washington-dc-car-rally/
you can't imagine...if the racist supremacist blacks wouldn't be threatening to burn the country in the riots, it (aka the potus) would be long gone... and feet first. (and you know it's serious risks, beasts).
edit2: you have more support in America than you think...
That would seem to be the case, BitMos...
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/04/20/not-everyones-asleep-in-the-us-70-years-of-great-victory-florida-washington-dc-car-rally/
There is no speaking of inclusion of Novorossia into Ukraine any longer
On the northern outskirts of Moscow, under reliable protection of the interior troops the formerly secret institute of the Foreign Intelligence Service is hidden. The golden letters "Russian Institute of Strategic Research" now show up on the front of the overhang. But the peaceful name doesn't confuse those who are in the know — more than two hundred employees forge the Motherland's analytical shield here. Will there be a new war in the south-east of Ukraine? Who is behind the US president? Why so many among our officials can be called the ideological agents of influence? These and other questions of "AN" were answered by the director of RISR, the retired lieutenant-general Leonid RESHETNIKOV. ...
https://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/153079.html
On the northern outskirts of Moscow, under reliable protection of the interior troops the formerly secret institute of the Foreign Intelligence Service is hidden. The golden letters "Russian Institute of Strategic Research" now show up on the front of the overhang. But the peaceful name doesn't confuse those who are in the know — more than two hundred employees forge the Motherland's analytical shield here. Will there be a new war in the south-east of Ukraine? Who is behind the US president? Why so many among our officials can be called the ideological agents of influence? These and other questions of "AN" were answered by the director of RISR, the retired lieutenant-general Leonid RESHETNIKOV. ...
https://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/153079.html
Mother of all Hell, this a fuckingly great interview! I loved it
. personally I agree on 99%, specially I didn't knew that the icbm of the western terrorist couldn't reach the urals. it must remain so, at all cost. I furthermore second the continuous splitting between fsb/gru, for the exact same reason that he mentioned (you will never read a westerner not wanting to centralize everything under his agency, genuinely cool).but, it's about those that exile their children from the motherland, don't worry, the more they will learn about the deep corruption of the west, how it's possible for billionaire to rape 12 years old in group, and get 1 year of jail (and the others culprit a la silivio, dsk, Clinton etc etc etc are all free, until they are rounded up to the kl).
So the best think do to, is 1 prepare for the worst against the worst of those that lost their souls (mainly euro/us shit), understand that you are facing a common enemy with PLAoC, once all of those have been exterminated (internally or by you) it's very important to move toward peace (which is impossible as long as those westerners will be alive).
peace, long live the Federation... and a last question... is the RISR smoke free ( I mean outdoor?).
just remember the gmers are doomed, they don't want to accept but they don't have the right, and they will perish for what they attempted to do, if you and others didn't raise against the program of enslavement, but with such pedophiles everything is possible.
FORWARD, FOR THE MOTHERLAND, NO MERCY, TO DEATH, NO GRAVE FOR THE ENNEMIES, FORWARD.
edit: I was very interested in the concept of merging the past and present, what does it mean? And what is happening afterward in the march toward progress prosperity peace equity stability harmony respect of the planet and it's inhabitant?
edit2: you have more support in America than you think...
Well. today is Dolphie´s birthday and I´m sure Ukraine nazi crap and the western mob junk that put them into power and sponsors them are having their quiet and sentimental moments of rememberance. Hopefully they all have a fitting end like their most beloved heroes - in the interests of public safety around the world.
The guy says nothing, which is to expected from a foreign minister from a country that is occupied after a military defeat and little more than a vassal state of one of the victors. Maybe he really thinks that the crap his masters put into power in Ukraine will unite the whole country, in which case he´s totally delusional. But more likely he has nothing to say simply because he has no independent foreign policy, just a useless errand boy.
There is no speaking of inclusion of Novorossia into Ukraine any longer
https://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/153079.html
https://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/153079.html
The most interesting part of the interview, which answers a lot of questions, is further below:
Quote
– How do you think the events in Novorossia will develop in the spring and summer? Will there be a new military campaign?
– Unfortunately, the probability is very high. Just a year ago the idea of federalizing Ukraine was workable. But now Kiev needs only war. Only a unitary state. For several reasons. The main is that the country is now led by ideologically anti-Russian people, who are not simply subordinated to Washington, but actually are bought and paid for by those forces who are hiding behind the US government.
– And what does this notorious "world government" need?
– It is easier to say what they don't need: they don't need a federal Ukraine, such a territory will be hard to control. It will be impossible to deploy their military bases, a new ABM echelon there. And there are such plans. From Lugansk and Kharkov tactical cruise missiles can reach behind the Urals, where our main nuclear deterrence forces are located. And they can hit silo-based and road-mobile ballistic missiles on the ascent trajectory with a 100% probability. Currently this area is not reachable by them neither from Poland nor from Turkey nor from the South-East Asia. This is the main goal. So the US will fight for Donbass to the last Ukrainian.
– So this is not about the shale gas depots that were found on this territory?
– Their main strategic goal is a unitary Ukraine under their full control for fighting Russia. And the shale gas or arable lands — this is just a pleasant bonus. Collateral gain. Plus a serious strike on our MIC due to the cutting of the links between the MIC of Ukraine and Russia. This is already accomplished.
– We were outplayed: "son of a bitch" Yanukovich had to be evacuated with the help of Spetsnaz and Washington placed its own "sons of bitches"?
– From the strategic-military point of view, of course we were outplayed. Russia got "compensation" – Crimea. There is "compensation" — the resistance by the residents of the south-east of Ukraine. But the enemy already got huge territory, which was a part of the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire.
– What are we going to see in Ukraine this year?
– The process of semi-disintegration or even utter disintegration. Many are still silent in the face of the genuine nazism. But people who understand the Ukraine and Russia are strongly connected didn't say their last word yet. Not in Odessa, not in Kharkov, not in Zaporozhye, and not in Chernigov. This silence is not eternal. And the lid of this cauldron will be inevitably blown away.
– And how will the relations between Novorossia and the rest of Ukraine develop?
– There is a low-probability scenario of Transnistria. But I don't believe in it — the territory of the DPR and the LPR is much bigger, millions of people were already sucked into this war. For now Russia still can convince the militia leaders to engage in a temporary respite and truce. But exactly that — temporary. There is no speaking about the return of Novorossia into Ukraine any longer. The people of the south-east don't want to be Ukrainians.
– So if our country ended up isolated globally due to the reunification with Crimea, why don't we go all-in in the south-east? How much hypocrisy can there be?
– I think that it is too early to go all-in just yet. We underestimate the degree of awareness of our president, who knows that there are certain processes in Europe that are not clearly visible to outside observers. These processes give hope that we will be able to protect our interests using different methods and means.
– Unfortunately, the probability is very high. Just a year ago the idea of federalizing Ukraine was workable. But now Kiev needs only war. Only a unitary state. For several reasons. The main is that the country is now led by ideologically anti-Russian people, who are not simply subordinated to Washington, but actually are bought and paid for by those forces who are hiding behind the US government.
– And what does this notorious "world government" need?
– It is easier to say what they don't need: they don't need a federal Ukraine, such a territory will be hard to control. It will be impossible to deploy their military bases, a new ABM echelon there. And there are such plans. From Lugansk and Kharkov tactical cruise missiles can reach behind the Urals, where our main nuclear deterrence forces are located. And they can hit silo-based and road-mobile ballistic missiles on the ascent trajectory with a 100% probability. Currently this area is not reachable by them neither from Poland nor from Turkey nor from the South-East Asia. This is the main goal. So the US will fight for Donbass to the last Ukrainian.
– So this is not about the shale gas depots that were found on this territory?
– Their main strategic goal is a unitary Ukraine under their full control for fighting Russia. And the shale gas or arable lands — this is just a pleasant bonus. Collateral gain. Plus a serious strike on our MIC due to the cutting of the links between the MIC of Ukraine and Russia. This is already accomplished.
– We were outplayed: "son of a bitch" Yanukovich had to be evacuated with the help of Spetsnaz and Washington placed its own "sons of bitches"?
– From the strategic-military point of view, of course we were outplayed. Russia got "compensation" – Crimea. There is "compensation" — the resistance by the residents of the south-east of Ukraine. But the enemy already got huge territory, which was a part of the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire.
– What are we going to see in Ukraine this year?
– The process of semi-disintegration or even utter disintegration. Many are still silent in the face of the genuine nazism. But people who understand the Ukraine and Russia are strongly connected didn't say their last word yet. Not in Odessa, not in Kharkov, not in Zaporozhye, and not in Chernigov. This silence is not eternal. And the lid of this cauldron will be inevitably blown away.
– And how will the relations between Novorossia and the rest of Ukraine develop?
– There is a low-probability scenario of Transnistria. But I don't believe in it — the territory of the DPR and the LPR is much bigger, millions of people were already sucked into this war. For now Russia still can convince the militia leaders to engage in a temporary respite and truce. But exactly that — temporary. There is no speaking about the return of Novorossia into Ukraine any longer. The people of the south-east don't want to be Ukrainians.
– So if our country ended up isolated globally due to the reunification with Crimea, why don't we go all-in in the south-east? How much hypocrisy can there be?
– I think that it is too early to go all-in just yet. We underestimate the degree of awareness of our president, who knows that there are certain processes in Europe that are not clearly visible to outside observers. These processes give hope that we will be able to protect our interests using different methods and means.
German Foreign Minister warns off Russia against recognising the Donetsk and Lugansk Republics, saying that it would complicate the process of stabilising the situation in Ukraine:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1914635?isasa
I agree with him. Russia should not recognise those republics per se. Russia should recognise them as integral and historical territories of Russian Federation that were illegitimately ripped from Russian Empire by Lenin in 1917 after a violent coup d'etat.
There is no speaking of inclusion of Novorossia into Ukraine any longer
On the northern outskirts of Moscow, under reliable protection of the interior troops the formerly secret institute of the Foreign Intelligence Service is hidden. The golden letters "Russian Institute of Strategic Research" now show up on the front of the overhang. But the peaceful name doesn't confuse those who are in the know — more than two hundred employees forge the Motherland's analytical shield here. Will there be a new war in the south-east of Ukraine? Who is behind the US president? Why so many among our officials can be called the ideological agents of influence? These and other questions of "AN" were answered by the director of RISR, the retired lieutenant-general Leonid RESHETNIKOV. ...
https://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/153079.html
On the northern outskirts of Moscow, under reliable protection of the interior troops the formerly secret institute of the Foreign Intelligence Service is hidden. The golden letters "Russian Institute of Strategic Research" now show up on the front of the overhang. But the peaceful name doesn't confuse those who are in the know — more than two hundred employees forge the Motherland's analytical shield here. Will there be a new war in the south-east of Ukraine? Who is behind the US president? Why so many among our officials can be called the ideological agents of influence? These and other questions of "AN" were answered by the director of RISR, the retired lieutenant-general Leonid RESHETNIKOV. ...
https://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/153079.html
Now; that is one smart dog.
Any news from the front ? How´s the Volkssturm going ? The wannabe Himmler firing up the troops ?
I guess a major offensive is in the works. Maybe those nutters will even try for the Crimea.
Hahahah! My gosh! Smart dog indeed
Now; that is one smart dog.
Any news from the front ? How´s the Volkssturm going ? The wannabe Himmler firing up the troops ?
I guess a major offensive is in the works. Maybe those nutters will even try for the Crimea.
I quickly heard in the wind that husband of shitsea got wiped out financially... lol, the mother, the father, the daughter, all attract losers... but taking on the fsb/gru on the home soil... curious, hideous...
It will be fun when all those cowards will come to ask for mercy at the doors of the kremlin, like drying worms on the sun of Arabia,
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4148/4842264461_cee30da02a_z.jpg
I don't think it's possible to forgive them for what they did, and worst what they attempted to do (ie annihilating Russia) but the implicit request to come to assume their actions would be a necessity for their descendants... once upon a time... be warned it will be disgusting, they will spread mucus everywhere, trying to gain pity... n.m.4.t. as always.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/24/36332407_672561b1fb.jpg
funnier, is how they all seems to believe that big stacks of bills stop high kinetic object... uneducated, that's what happen when some cheat with the c.b.s. and get free note and buy everything they want, only in sell out country, they start to believe their fictions... tragic(omedy)
It will be fun when all those cowards will come to ask for mercy at the doors of the kremlin, like drying worms on the sun of Arabia,
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4148/4842264461_cee30da02a_z.jpg
I don't think it's possible to forgive them for what they did, and worst what they attempted to do (ie annihilating Russia) but the implicit request to come to assume their actions would be a necessity for their descendants... once upon a time... be warned it will be disgusting, they will spread mucus everywhere, trying to gain pity... n.m.4.t. as always.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/24/36332407_672561b1fb.jpg
funnier, is how they all seems to believe that big stacks of bills stop high kinetic object... uneducated, that's what happen when some cheat with the c.b.s. and get free note and buy everything they want, only in sell out country, they start to believe their fictions... tragic(omedy)
Keeping up the rock solid tradition : US military instructors arrive in Ukraine to render local forces even more useless than they already are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWCpyZXX0mY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWCpyZXX0mY
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