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My cousin who in time i asked to investment on bitcoin but has always had excuses that he'll invest later, sometimes he tells me that he's afraid to invest his money on the bitcoin due to the potential losses.
He had aslo told me that he's contented with his monthly salaries at then but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.

This has someone living a luxurious life without undermining that his job is just temporarynand economy inflations could affect his savings.
Then I reminded him that the bitcoin investment isn't a get quick rich and for an individual who has bills and financial needs to respond to as responsibility, you must have an alternative source of income by which your bitcoin investment can only be fertilexbti yield profits when you invested and doesn't panic it to grow else he may end up selling his bitcoin at lost having me to be blamed.

So I've told him that I'm not involved if he gets to Invest at this time because I know he'd panic over the volatiles of the bitcoin market since he doesn't have  another source by which he can rely on earning income to process his financial needs. The choice is his to decide because if he had alternated his source of earning to bitcoin since I told him, the dividends of his bitcoin assets would had be reliable to him after much he may have made some profits from it. It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them

Don't know if this story is true or not but you totally did the right thing. Telling and actually setting the expectations of people who think and see bitcoin as a get rich quick scheme are seldom able to keep investing in the crypto industry, cause by the time they lose their shit, even if it's just a single dollar, they automatically flip out and they end up with no money, and a new sense of spite and hate for bitcoin and crypto. It was a mistake I made as well in the past that I will no longer do ever again.

Also could be the reason why this cousin of yours asked you to help him with his investments is because he still has spare money lying around, thinking that was enough an investment to make a sustainable income stream without having to work, or he's asking for a quick buck from you and bitcoin lol. In any case, do not let this guy in on cryptocurrencies unless he learns what it's really all about.
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Although he later realized that he was determined to make a good investment. But now that he is out of a job, if he's trying to rely on Bitcoin to conduct his family, it would be a complete miscalculation. Because no one will get regular income by investing in Bitcoin, but if one keep investing here, Bitcoin will turn into a big asset in the long run. It would be best if he could keep his job and accumulate bitcoins by doing DCA regularly then he would definitely get a good return. One will not get rich by investing in Bitcoin. So everyone must invest with long-term planning. If a person does not have an alternative source of income then he cannot hold Bitcoin for long. So before investing in bitcoins one needs financial independence first otherwise the investment will not be prosperous.

Advising someone to invest in Bitcoin is not a bad idea but how the person responds to the advice is what matters, I want to address what OP is saying first because, if not for advice, I am sure Op himself would not be involved with Bitcoin. Aside from the fact that anyone can be interested in Bitcoin, the only thing the person needs is to be given guidelines on where to start before they will still think that it will all be easy. From the guidelines, they will know if they continue or not, and it is better that way so that there won't be too much stress. because after a lot of explanation, you see them giving excuses, instead of making everything plain.

losing a job. Before getting a new one, he is going to keep himself busy. Bitcoin is not a bad idea for the time there will be something to depend on, it would have been interesting if he had started before losing his job. before getting a new one, is going to keep himself busy. bitcoin is a long-term asset the earlier you invest, the more interesting it becomes, for those that want to always accumulate, but as for me, I will buy once and hold once. That is more convenient for me than buying and buying, and if I am adding big, because my target will be making a good profit out of my investment i see how people pull out big profits and that has also become my goal.
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Although he later realized that he was determined to make a good investment. But now that he is out of a job, if he's trying to rely on Bitcoin to conduct his family, it would be a complete miscalculation. Because no one will get regular income by investing in Bitcoin, but if one keep investing here, Bitcoin will turn into a big asset in the long run. It would be best if he could keep his job and accumulate bitcoins by doing DCA regularly then he would definitely get a good return. One will not get rich by investing in Bitcoin. So everyone must invest with long-term planning. If a person does not have an alternative source of income then he cannot hold Bitcoin for long. So before investing in bitcoins one needs financial independence first otherwise the investment will not be prosperous.
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It sounds like your cousin is facing a challenging situation with the loss of his job and financial difficulties. It's understandable that he might be considering Bitcoin as an investment opportunity, but it's crucial for him to approach it with caution and a clear understanding of the risks involved.

Bitcoin can be volatile, and investing in it requires a long-term perspective and a diversified portfolio. It's also important for him to have other sources of income or savings to cover his financial needs and not rely solely on Bitcoin.

Ultimately, the decision to invest in Bitcoin or any other investment should be based on careful consideration of one's financial situation and risk tolerance. If your cousin decides to invest, it's essential for him to do thorough research and seek advice from financial professionals.

He's responsible to whatever he's facing about his finances as a case to had lost his job. There where lot of chances for him to diversify his earning and mustn't been on bitcoin as i advised him. Now he's learning how lessions in the hard way after spending on unproductive things when he had a job.
Investing in bitcoin isn't a saviour to magically take one out of poverty but as a hedge to boycott economy inflations with rewarding potentials of profitabilities on long time holding and anyone without an alternative source of income is never a welcomed to the long term holding demands on bitcoin. My cousin is an failure to partake on the bitcoin as currently of his joblessness because all he sees now is a quick provisions to earning.
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But when you tell them what happened in the past, predicting bitcoin will reach 200k USD means you are giving them suggestions and intending to advise them to invest in bitcoin even though it is not advice direct.

I'm just saying my personal opinion. I'm not an expert, and even experts can be wrong. That's why I'm always saying: "Invest only what you can afford to lose". Don't listen to anyone, because no one except yourself can really know your situation. I mean, no one can know what you can afford lose.

That's not necessarily too bad, but I think you need to emphasize the risk more to them instead of just talking about the returns they will get when they invest in bitcoin.


You are absolutely right, the risk is huge and everyone should be aware of that.

Giving the advice “only invest what you can afford to lose” is certainly indispensable but what worries me is whether they will actually follow your advice or will they invest with borrowed money or money that cannot be lost. For someone who is unemployed or has no source of income and wants to get rich, they can do anything without caring about the risks they will face.

No one thinks that borrowed money is something that you can afford to lose. Absolutely no one.
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Investing in Bitcoin is risky, not only in Bitcoin, but investing in all sectors is risky, some sectors have less risk, some sectors have more risk, so no one should give financial advice to others. And those who will invest should invest from their own responsibility. 
The risks we talk of differ from person to person.

Because it depends on an investor’s ability, goals, and methods in investing. Their geographical location also matters and how their government operates and regulates different kinds of investments are all part of risks to be managed.
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Untill it's realized that the nature of bitcoin investment is not a get rich quick and isn't one of the MemeCoins that's subjected to coins surprising increase based on marketing hypes strategies, then beginners would bear it in mind that there coming to invest on bitcoin would require a long time holding which only an alternative and stable source of income would let you achieve your investment goal.
Considering a good life the reasons why invest, we can't have the money growing somewhere there while we're dieing on hunger and medical cares. Of course non alternative income would always disrupt our bitcoin holding while waiting to make profits.
Even though the individual doesn't have a large income right now to fulfill all his needs, I guess he has to re-calculate his household spendings, and find a way to allocate part of his budget for investments, otherwise how is he going to overcome the current financial issues he is facing? Maybe he can cut some expenses here and there to use the money to invest in Bitcoin.

Moreover, the biggest problem in his case is mindset. He has the wrong mindset for life, since he is an immediatist person who want quick profits from investments, can't deal emotionally with volatility, besides wasting money when he has a lot of it disponible on his hands.

If he doesn't change his approach towards his lifestyle nothing is going to improve for him. Even if he had a million of dollar, it wouldn't be enough, anyway...
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I received my first couple BTC by selling a video game code that came with one of my graphics cards.

Funny you mentioned that you got your first BTC from selling a code to an actual video game.  I'm trying to convince these people we need a videogame board/child board but it's slowly killing me as we speak.   Cry
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I received my first couple BTC by selling a video game code that came with one of my graphics cards. Looking back, it’s funny now that those BTC turned out to be so valuable. However, it isn’t a bad way to get your hands on some Bitcoin. Surely you must own something that someone would be interested in buying from you using BTC.
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Investments do not guarantee instant profits, you need to make it work first before you can see essential profits. So if you are investing in order to get rich quick, you are on the wrong track. And if you invest and have plans to rely on it for survival, it won’t certainly work in all angles. Investing should come as an additional source of income, not as a major source for survival so that you won’t see yourself starving to death in the end.

many people think that investment can be used as their main income and a way to get rich quickly. they do not understand that investment has a risk that at any time someone can lose the money they invest because of an unstable market, especially in crypto investment. this is the reason why investment requires alternative income, where the money can be used to get profit from the investment market. someone who wants to invest should think about it and consider it carefully, because the wrong mindset about investment can be a bad thing for them.


You are correct because I see some of my friends investing as a source of income, which is not supposed to be because bitcoin is volatile and no one can predict it. I usually advise someone not to invest if he does not have another way of generating money because he will never succeed in crypto if he does not have other sources of income. Because if you don't have any other source of income and have invested with the funds you have with the intention of selling when you make a profit, you will be stuck with it for a long time. And you opted to leave it for the long run, and an emergency came up, and you don't have any source to solve your problem definitely you will sell your coins and solve the issue and probably the coin can be is lose or profit. But you haven't chose you rather sell it and deal with the difficulties yourself. And your investment is already miserable therefore it is best to get something done that will help you financially without affecting your investment.
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You must have enough money to invest.  Investment is a type of savings. You can save only when you have the source and ability to earn enough money. Investing in Bitcoin is risky, not only in Bitcoin, but investing in all sectors is risky, some sectors have less risk, some sectors have more risk, so no one should give financial advice to others. And those who will invest should invest from their own responsibility.  Because if you invest you have to take risk. If someone asks me for advice, I will never give financial advice to anyone.
Well, I feel that investment depends on the type so that it can be said that it is a type of savings. However, in crypto, I think this is a risky type of investment, and perhaps I feel that it can be considered a savings if only choose popular crypto. Apart from that, I don't think having money is enough, but we need to have other sources of income to help us when we encounter risk problems from this investment. Many people are reckless in investing in crypto, such as selling all their assets, or taking out loans with quite high interest. however, when they incur losses from these investments, they find it difficult to repay their loans because they have no other source of income.
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You must have enough money to invest.  Investment is a type of savings. You can save only when you have the source and ability to earn enough money. Investing in Bitcoin is risky, not only in Bitcoin, but investing in all sectors is risky, some sectors have less risk, some sectors have more risk, so no one should give financial advice to others. And those who will invest should invest from their own responsibility.  Because if you invest you have to take risk. If someone asks me for advice, I will never give financial advice to anyone.
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This has been my advice for every new investors in the cryptocurrency market. I had created a similar thread in the local board and telling people that they should not invest of they are not in any way having or something to survive because definitely he must touch the investment money to solve one problem or the other if he is not doing anything to support himself. One can enjoy bitcoin investment if he is doing something so that he would be hodling the coins till the bull or All Time High. And many people don't o ow this things and all what they want is to invest and make profit.

And those who are working in the government and business people are the good people to invest in bitcoin because they have steady income. Though others can also invest if they planned well.

Untill it's realized that the nature of bitcoin investment is not a get rich quick and isn't one of the MemeCoins that's subjected to coins surprising increase based on marketing hypes strategies, then beginners would bear it in mind that there coming to invest on bitcoin would require a long time holding which only an alternative and stable source of income would let you achieve your investment goal.
Considering a good life the reasons why invest, we can't have the money growing somewhere there while we're dieing on hunger and medical cares. Of course non alternative income would always disrupt our bitcoin holding while waiting to make profits.
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You are right. The pressure is real, they can borrow, invest all, go far just to invest and expect return in second, of which when it turns out that it did not go as expected, they would put the blame on another and drive themselves to emotional imbalances. So the need, for clarification before we advise them to invest should be prioritize, when it comes to investing one must have a source of income first, nobody can invest in an empty stomach or account and believe that such investment would yield any great result. The reason why many people cry, regret and call Bitcoin Market all sort of names is because of this underlining factor, people investing with high hopes, impatience, expectations far from normal.

I prefer not to advise anyone. because of someone's financial condition, we won't really know. but if they come and ask me, then I will give them some advice before they invest in Bitcoin.
I would do the same, I don't want to give advice to anyone unless someone asks me about bitcoin. But what I can give them is the basic knowledge, the necessary documents, and they should take the time to learn it all before making an investment decision.

More people ask me and are interested in Bitcoin because of the news on social media. they see Bitcoin investment and trading as something very safe but don't see the risks. There are even those who see Bitcoin as a way to make quick profits. In fact, those who asked actually already bought instantly on the stock exchange. and they are without basic knowledge.

But in this case, do you give them any advice or still choose to stay silent and let them experience buying bitcoin without basic knowledge and see it as a get-rich-quick scheme?
If it were me, I would stay silent and let them experience and learn their own lessons after the loss. For those who have no knowledge but rush to invest in bitcoin thinking it can make them rich quickly, advice will not work for them and experience is what they need. .
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If your cousin was investing while he was job I think he would have withdrawn his bitcoin money now because he is now unemployed and needs money to meet his family needs. now If he invests all the money in Bitcoin, he will panic and sell at a loss when the price of Bitcoin falls. You can give your brother a suggestion to find a way to earn his income quickly, add you to the forum to learn about Bitcoin, or you can give advice yourself in various ways. If prosperity returns in his life then you should encourage him to invest because he interested to be invest Bitcoin.
Your suggestion does sound worth considering, but what makes me a little surprised is how do you know if someone's relative is feeling panicked due to the decline in Bitcoin prices or urgent life needs? Because I see personal things such as daily needs in other people and feelings of panic in someone, it is also not easy to know even though someone is running an investment like Bitcoin. The person's family or relatives really need to encourage them so that they don't become careless and panic when investing if they themselves really like Bitcoin and this must continue to be encouraged because their siblings don't choose the wrong investment for themselves.
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Investments do not guarantee instant profits, you need to make it work first before you can see essential profits. So if you are investing in order to get rich quick, you are on the wrong track. And if you invest and have plans to rely on it for survival, it won’t certainly work in all angles. Investing should come as an additional source of income, not as a major source for survival so that you won’t see yourself starving to death in the end.

many people think that investment can be used as their main income and a way to get rich quickly. they do not understand that investment has a risk that at any time someone can lose the money they invest because of an unstable market, especially in crypto investment. this is the reason why investment requires alternative income, where the money can be used to get profit from the investment market. someone who wants to invest should think about it and consider it carefully, because the wrong mindset about investment can be a bad thing for them.
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Investments do not guarantee instant profits, you need to make it work first before you can see essential profits. So if you are investing in order to get rich quick, you are on the wrong track. And if you invest and have plans to rely on it for survival, it won’t certainly work in all angles. Investing should come as an additional source of income, not as a major source for survival so that you won’t see yourself starving to death in the end.

All quick get rich investment are scams as I have never in my life see anyone that works, the ones that stood it time to work don't exceed maximum of 2 months before they fold and then disappear. If you must invest into anything, you have to understand that you need patience and the return on the investment must be moderate but I guess because Bitcoin and crypto has spoilt a lot of people because of these profits, we don't look twice before making mistakes on any investment.

I'm not the type that will bring anyone to invest in Bitcoin but if they insist that I should help them, I will not reject because if you do, they will feel you don't want to put them through but my first cautions comes before anything, I will tell them the risk involves and things they will likely see in the future and if they accept, then we can proceed with whatever they tell me to teach them about Bitcoin.
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You are right. The pressure is real, they can borrow, invest all, go far just to invest and expect return in second, of which when it turns out that it did not go as expected, they would put the blame on another and drive themselves to emotional imbalances. So the need, for clarification before we advise them to invest should be prioritize, when it comes to investing one must have a source of income first, nobody can invest in an empty stomach or account and believe that such investment would yield any great result. The reason why many people cry, regret and call Bitcoin Market all sort of names is because of this underlining factor, people investing with high hopes, impatience, expectations far from normal.

I prefer not to advise anyone. because of someone's financial condition, we won't really know. but if they come and ask me, then I will give them some advice before they invest in Bitcoin.

More people ask me and are interested in Bitcoin because of the news on social media. they see Bitcoin investment and trading as something very safe but don't see the risks. There are even those who see Bitcoin as a way to make quick profits. In fact, those who asked actually already bought instantly on the stock exchange. and they are without basic knowledge.
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For someone who is unemployed or has no source of income and wants to get rich, they can do anything without caring about the risks they will face.

You are right. The pressure is real, they can borrow, invest all, go far just to invest and expect return in second, of which when it turns out that it did not go as expected, they would put the blame on another and drive themselves to emotional imbalances. So the need, for clarification before we advise them to invest should be prioritize, when it comes to investing one must have a source of income first, nobody can invest in an empty stomach or account and believe that such investment would yield any great result. The reason why many people cry, regret and call Bitcoin Market all sort of names is because of this underlining factor, people investing with high hopes, impatience, expectations far from normal.
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Investing in bitcoin is not just about holding for a few months to make a profit, but sometimes it can take several years to generate profits because bitcoin is unpredictable. No one can predict anything or know in advance what will happen.

At least we can say that that used to be the case many times in the past. Today, when many predict $200k+ in the future, and I personally agree with that, we still can't say when it will happen. I'd say, it is very likely that at some point next year we'll reach that price, but still I wouldn't say I guarantee that to anyone. The best advice, as always, invest only what you can afford to lose, or, in the case with Bitcoin, invest only if you can afford to lose half of your investment.

But when you tell them what happened in the past, predicting bitcoin will reach 200k USD means you are giving them suggestions and intending to advise them to invest in bitcoin even though it is not advice direct.

That's not necessarily too bad, but I think you need to emphasize the risk more to them instead of just talking about the returns they will get when they invest in bitcoin. Giving the advice “only invest what you can afford to lose” is certainly indispensable but what worries me is whether they will actually follow your advice or will they invest with borrowed money or money that cannot be lost. For someone who is unemployed or has no source of income and wants to get rich, they can do anything without caring about the risks they will face.
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