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Well, actually you were right to recommend that he invest while he still has a job. In fact, I also thought like that, and at that time I was forced to invest. However, when I lost my job, I really felt the benefits of the investment. However, this could be a lesson for him that while he still has income, he needs to think about what things are good to invest in and not be quickly satisfied with his income at that time. Investments will help us when we have no source of income. Currently he has no source of income, and wants to invest in bitcoin which has quite a high risk of investing if you don't have a source of income. I suggest looking for income first, because I still adhere to the principle that don't invest using money you don't want to lose.

That will be a lesson for OP's cousin and he should change his life plans if he doesn't want to be in this situation again. But I don't think investment will help us in case we are unemployed because there is no guarantee that investment will always bring profit. Investment needs to have a long-term vision and must be completely separate from daily needs, only taking profits when the set goals are achieved. I think saving will be more effective in case we are unemployed than investing.

By the way, I also agree with you that the idea of investing while we are unemployed is a bad idea, and OP was clearly right in giving advice to his cousin.
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It is not easy to suggest Bitcoin investment to new people, even if you already know about it, but new people will not easily believe it even if you provide proof of good profits from Bitcoin. Especially for those who feel comfortable with the income they earn every month, because there will definitely be worries.
Since this person is your cousin, you should invite him to do a business that is easy for him to understand and that he also knows about profitable businesses. And with this you can meet often and have a lot of free time to educate your cousins ​​about the benefits and advantages of Bitcoin, and having a business is one of the best ways when you lose your job.
And I'm sure this way your cousin will definitely be interested if he really understands and has enough knowledge about everything related to Bitcoin and the risks involved, and he will definitely start while he is still working and doing business with you. And when he lost his job, he still had a business and also invested in Bitcoin, and it was all because of you.
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My cousin who in time i asked to investment on bitcoin but has always had excuses that he'll invest later, sometimes he tells me that he's afraid to invest his money on the bitcoin due to the potential losses.
He had aslo told me that he's contented with his monthly salaries at then but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.

This has someone living a luxurious life without undermining that his job is just temporarynand economy inflations could affect his savings.
Then I reminded him that the bitcoin investment isn't a get quick rich and for an individual who has bills and financial needs to respond to as responsibility, you must have an alternative source of income by which your bitcoin investment can only be fertilexbti yield profits when you invested and doesn't panic it to grow else he may end up selling his bitcoin at lost having me to be blamed.

So I've told him that I'm not involved if he gets to Invest at this time because I know he'd panic over the volatiles of the bitcoin market since he doesn't have  another source by which he can rely on earning income to process his financial needs. The choice is his to decide because if he had alternated his source of earning to bitcoin since I told him, the dividends of his bitcoin assets would had be reliable to him after much he may have made some profits from it. It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them

That's an interesting situation with your cousin. Do you think it might be a good idea for him to start with a small amount to get a feel for the market without risking too much? How have others in this group handled introducing cautious friends or family to crypto investing? Any tips on managing their expectations and helping them understand the volatility?
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I was approach by a friend who told me that he wants to invest on Bitcoin that he needs a guideline and that he was told that immediately he invested on Bitcoin that he will start making money, The advice I gave to my cousins was not to invest in bitcoin but to save in bitcoin.
Did you copy this?
The reason why I'm saying this is because it was not quite long ago when I was approach by a friend who told me that he wants to invest on Bitcoin that he needs a guideline and that he was told that immediately he invested on Bitcoin that he will start making money, 
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My cousin who in time i asked to investment on bitcoin but has always had excuses that he'll invest later, sometimes he tells me that he's afraid to invest his money on the bitcoin due to the potential losses.
Basically, you don't need to ask your cousin to invest in Bitcoin. You only can help him if he is interested in Bitcoin himself. If you ask him to invest, you will take the responsibility if your cousin fails in his Bitcoin investment in the future. I believe you don't want to be blamed if there is something bad happening in your cousin Bitcoin investment.

Someone should be optimistic and brave enough if he wants to invest in Bitcoin. If your cousin is afraid, it means he is not ready to deal with the risks in Bitcoin investment. So, it is better to give the time for your cousin to learn more about Bitcoin investment first.

It's hard to understand how many people like to get themselves into trouble, giving advice or asking others to invest in bitcoin is an unwise idea. Think about it, if they invest profitably, we will not receive any benefits from them, but if they lose money, we will be the ones blamed, even called scammers. I really don't understand why so many people like to do this.

Basically, investing is risky, and it's riskier if it's bitcoin, a volatile asset. So let them learn and make their own decisions, don't try to ask or force them.

He had aslo told me that he's contented with his monthly salaries at then but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.
If he lost his job, how he can have the funds for investment?
Investment isn't the priority if someone has no income. It is better to have a job first and make sure to have good salary. When your cousin has free money for investment monthly, you can let him to buy Bitcoin. We must know that taking profits from Bitcoin mostly not in a short time, it will take a long time. He can expect to get profits monthly from Bitcoin. Moreover, your cousin is a beginner.



I agree when OP gives advice to his cousin not to invest in bitcoin while he is unemployed. But if OP hadn't asked his cousin to invest in bitcoin before, he wouldn't be in this situation now. OP is in a dilemma as he is the one who introduced bitcoin to his cousin but now OP is also the one who refuses his cousin to invest in bitcoin.

Actually due to what op said earlier that he advice his cousin to invest in bitcoin but he was afraid that he don't want to experience any lose in the market, had it been he listen to op advice he wouldn't have been in this situation right now. sometimes this happens as a result of being greed unlike what op said earlier that his cousin Said that he don't want to invest his money in bitcoin meanwhile he has a decent job that is paying him very well then, what will happen to him if he just invest with a little amount that he can afford to lose and just forget about it? that is why is not good to put our egg in one basket because had it been he invested in bitcoin at that early stage, I think there will still be a hope for him now that he lost his job. However Most people always forget that bitcoin is a very good asset that can profit One in the future.
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People always want to overdo it in the crypto space, even if all they can spare for Bitcoin investment is one percent of their monthly salary they will feel the hype later and increase the amount themselves, I know people who do this just because they want to have a lot of Bitcoin as fast as possible.

OP dropped a good advice, if you don't have a good source of income don't think about Bitcoin investment, if you also can't stick to a certain percentage of your money into Bitcoin every month you will likely over-invest in Bitcoin and it could backfire later on.

As for him telling his cousin to invest in Bitcoin is not a forceful attempt, if his cousin says no to him it is the end, I've advised many people to grab Bitcoin at $3500 in 2020 and they said no, a year later they rushed to tell me how they regret not taking my advice, the same thing will happen to anyone who failed to listen.
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My cousin who in time i asked to investment on bitcoin but has always had excuses that he'll invest later, sometimes he tells me that he's afraid to invest his money on the bitcoin due to the potential losses.
Basically, you don't need to ask your cousin to invest in Bitcoin. You only can help him if he is interested in Bitcoin himself. If you ask him to invest, you will take the responsibility if your cousin fails in his Bitcoin investment in the future. I believe you don't want to be blamed if there is something bad happening in your cousin Bitcoin investment.

Someone should be optimistic and brave enough if he wants to invest in Bitcoin. If your cousin is afraid, it means he is not ready to deal with the risks in Bitcoin investment. So, it is better to give the time for your cousin to learn more about Bitcoin investment first.

It's hard to understand how many people like to get themselves into trouble, giving advice or asking others to invest in bitcoin is an unwise idea. Think about it, if they invest profitably, we will not receive any benefits from them, but if they lose money, we will be the ones blamed, even called scammers. I really don't understand why so many people like to do this.

Basically, investing is risky, and it's riskier if it's bitcoin, a volatile asset. So let them learn and make their own decisions, don't try to ask or force them.

He had aslo told me that he's contented with his monthly salaries at then but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.
If he lost his job, how he can have the funds for investment?
Investment isn't the priority if someone has no income. It is better to have a job first and make sure to have good salary. When your cousin has free money for investment monthly, you can let him to buy Bitcoin. We must know that taking profits from Bitcoin mostly not in a short time, it will take a long time. He can expect to get profits monthly from Bitcoin. Moreover, your cousin is a beginner.



I agree when OP gives advice to his cousin not to invest in bitcoin while he is unemployed. But if OP hadn't asked his cousin to invest in bitcoin before, he wouldn't be in this situation now. OP is in a dilemma as he is the one who introduced bitcoin to his cousin but now OP is also the one who refuses his cousin to invest in bitcoin.
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Should he be talking about getting started in making an investment after he has lost his job? The decision to think towards coming into the Bitcoin investment sector at the time he's supposed to be thinking about getting a new job is totally wrong and will only serve to land him in a big mess if he tries getting started at this stage and phase of his life.

So since he's still struggling financially, how does he intend setting out an amount that's going into DCA and another that's going to serve as his emergency funds and still have enough to take care of his general upkeep? Sometimes we need to be realistic enough to know that even when some decision are the best to be made, if you make certain decisions at the wrong time, you're going to end up putting yourself at a very tight corner and in a situation were you live the rest of your life regretting ever taking such an action.
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Well, actually you were right to recommend that he invest while he still has a job. In fact, I also thought like that, and at that time I was forced to invest. However, when I lost my job, I really felt the benefits of the investment. However, this could be a lesson for him that while he still has income, he needs to think about what things are good to invest in and not be quickly satisfied with his income at that time. Investments will help us when we have no source of income. Currently he has no source of income, and wants to invest in bitcoin which has quite a high risk of investing if you don't have a source of income. I suggest looking for income first, because I still adhere to the principle that don't invest using money you don't want to lose.
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That attitude is very common among some people to ignore their opportunity but once their job is terminated, it's then they will come back to their senses to remember what you have told them about Bitcoin and they will be serious to invest. But if you have other sources of income that will be helping you to solve other challenges not to sell your Bitcoin, it will be easy for you to make a huge amount of income from your Bitcoin investment when bullish season appear, because you have other sources of income that is boosting your confidence. well, is never too late for your cousin to be part of Bitcoin investment, and all you need to do to help him is to educate him about Bitcoin investment before he can use small capital to start.
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I noticed this is common behavior. I might also be guilty of the same. Whenever you have a good source of income and you even have extra money, you don't think of making more money. You probably think of spending, of how to enjoy your money. So instead of thinking of how your money would give you more money, you focus on the pleasurable things your money can afford. It's only when your source of income becomes problematic that you scamper looking for other ways to earn. I, too, am battling against this tendency.
This is a common problem among some high-income earners. They are always comfortable with what they earn since it can cover their expenses and give them other pleasurable things. Most of us fail to understand that nothing lasts forever, so there is a need to plan for the future. A friend once told me that I should save from my income every month, no matter how small, and this is what I have been doing with Bitcoin.

Applying the DCA investing pattern I ensure to keep some amount of Bitcoin monthly. The sum might not be big, but it gives me some level of satisfaction that I am investing in the future. It has not been an easy task because I have had to forgo many activities or things that once gave me pleasure to keep buying Bitcoin.
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Truer qords never been said before, you can't keep up an investment if you've got nothing that would help you survive in the real world. Bitcoin is supposed to be for the long-term and if investing in it can lead you to more hardships that would leave you no choice but to get back that investment to supplement your daily expenses then you're doing it wrong. But this doesn't have to be the case as always, even if you have no other income, you can always consider leaving a really small percentage of your salary to invest in bitcoin, even that $1 dollar would count if you do it consistently and for the long-term.
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His awareness grew when he no longer had a monthly income generated from his job, if at that time he wanted to follow your invitation, he would find it easier to accumulate Bitcoin by setting aside part of his salary to invest in Bitcoin. Investing when he no longer has a source of income will greatly affect his emotions and he may blame you when the value of his assets decreases due to Bitcoin market fluctuations that occur all the time.

Point him to all the risks that come with investing in Bitcoin without proper knowledge and impress upon him the volatility that always occurs in the crypto market. Your job is only to direct and inform him of all the possibilities that could happen in crypto investment, let him determine his own path without any more reason for him to blame you when he experiences risks while investing.

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I noticed this is common behavior. I might also be guilty of the same. Whenever you have a good source of income and you even have extra money, you don't think of making more money. You probably think of spending, of how to enjoy your money. So instead of thinking of how your money would give you more money, you focus on the pleasurable things your money can afford. It's only when your source of income becomes problematic that you scamper looking for other ways to earn. I, too, am battling against this tendency.
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but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.
That's his first mistake. Investing in bitcoin is not and should not be treated as an actual job. If you want to invest in Bitcoin, it should have happened when he had the stable income. Relying on bitcoin for your daily needs would be a disaster. It's a good choice that you decided not to get involved. Bad decisions after bad decisions.
Investing in Bitcoin without having real income is of course not very good and it will not be possible to carry out the investment well, because of course we have needs that we must fulfill and to be able to get satisfactory results in investing in Bitcoin we must be able to survive for a period of time. for a long time and it is very unlikely that we can invest if we cannot meet the needs we need and it would be better for us to have a source of income that can meet the needs we need before we can decide to invest in Bitcoin, don't let us listen to other people's advice then we continue to decide to invest, of course this is a very bad decision.
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but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.
That's his first mistake. Investing in bitcoin is not and should not be treated as an actual job. If you want to invest in Bitcoin, it should have happened when he had the stable income. Relying on bitcoin for your daily needs would be a disaster. It's a good choice that you decided not to get involved. Bad decisions after bad decisions.
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It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them
Based on that story, if you have a fixed job then you should save some of your money to emergency funds just in case you lose your job. We don't know what would happen in the future, better be safe than sorry I would say.   If you have affordable money to invest on any investment method out there then go ahead, otherwise please don't you just make yourself worse. Investment is not a quick rich money making method.
In these days or era if you only rely on one stable job then you will only live enough, I mean with the continous inflation rate sooner or later your stable salary or income will mot be enough thats why investing, having business or finding side hustle will be a good alternative, if you still can do then having another source of income will make you the cut, and one of it is investing in crypto currency or bitcoin, but also not all people could do bitcoin because there is a risk, even though the investor will only use extra money, fhe impact of losing it all to bitcoin will have a great impact to them financially, so if you cant and cant manage to handle the complexity of bitcoin then bitcoin is not for you, there are more ways to earn through ceypto currency a person just need to explore.
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It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them
Based on that story, if you have a fixed job then you should save some of your money to emergency funds just in case you lose your job. We don't know what would happen in the future, better be safe than sorry I would say.   If you have affordable money to invest on any investment method out there then go ahead, otherwise please don't you just make yourself worse. Investment is not a quick rich money making method.
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My cousin who in time i asked to investment on bitcoin but has always had excuses that he'll invest later, sometimes he tells me that he's afraid to invest his money on the bitcoin due to the potential losses.
He had aslo told me that he's contented with his monthly salaries at then but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.

This has someone living a luxurious life without undermining that his job is just temporarynand economy inflations could affect his savings.
Then I reminded him that the bitcoin investment isn't a get quick rich and for an individual who has bills and financial needs to respond to as responsibility, you must have an alternative source of income by which your bitcoin investment can only be fertilexbti yield profits when you invested and doesn't panic it to grow else he may end up selling his bitcoin at lost having me to be blamed.

So I've told him that I'm not involved if he gets to Invest at this time because I know he'd panic over the volatiles of the bitcoin market since he doesn't have  another source by which he can rely on earning income to process his financial needs. The choice is his to decide because if he had alternated his source of earning to bitcoin since I told him, the dividends of his bitcoin assets would had be reliable to him after much he may have made some profits from it. It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them

Alternative isnt the issue on here but rather money or fund management would really be the key. Its not bad on making up some suggestions into other people but make it sure that you have explained it well too when it comes to the risks involved because if you do find yourself that explaining all the good things but forgotten the bad ones then you are just basically putting up yourself on getting blamed at the moment that the market
will really be that fucking up someone that you had introduced or someone you have taught about it. We do know that people do loves on blaming someone on the moment that they are losing money.
This is why it would really be that best on the moment that you had explained to someone then tell them about the risks and never ever make some sugar coated words on investing to crypto because
everything can't be talked about assured or guaranteed profits.

If you do have single source of income then you could still be able to allocate a little portion of that income and could be able to invest but of course you shouldnt really be forgetting the primary
rule here on crypto investment is that you should really be that invest on the amount on which you can afford to lose as always. There's no such guarantee that you can make money out of this market.
So better prepare yourself in terms of mind and emotion because this wont really be a smooth sail ride.
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I don't really give out advice to invest, I would rather tell them to save up in crypto rather than letting their excess money sit in their bank account.
I would also tell them the pros and cons of it, but I would never introduce crypto as a main source of income, if they would only rely on it, then they are risking their life on the line, not everyone could earn a stable income in trading and if it is their only money then it would be drained by their expenses.

This is truly the right advice to give to anybody, I mostly tell people that you should hold you savings in bitcoin as it is an hedge against Fiat inflation and if they ask me about the returns I tell them it is more less a bonus for them but I still warn them that the volatility that increases the price usually also dumps but a long term holders do have the advantage of avoiding this loss but yet still not guaranteed.

There is nothing wrong if he choose to come back to Bitcoin investment, perhaps that's why they say that every change in behavior or acceptance is as a result of experience so perhaps he has realized that if he had diversified his part of the salary into Bitcoin he would have gotten an investment to fall back on since he has lost his job but however if his motive on Bitcoin is to become rich overnight or an alternative of making money on a weekly basis is obvious he may not be ready yet because it will be very difficult or impossible achieving that, however I realized that most people who have not really venture into Bitcoin has a very wrong impression on Bitcoin investment because they feel that is very easy to start and begin to make money immediately.

I don’t think we need to reason anything about this because it is crystal clear that the person in question is looking for a source of income to balance up his Former lifestyle and bitcoin is certainly not that investment. The problem is that the kind of narrative that people have about bitcoin and cryptocurrency is sometimes bad; many people see this as a get rich quick scheme and once they have problems they refer here to double their investment which isn’t. So I don’t blame OP for the advice he dished out
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