Pages:
Author

Topic: Don't advice anyone to invest on Bitcoin if he doesn't have Alt. income - page 6. (Read 999 times)

sr. member
Activity: 1904
Merit: 306
At this point of time almost everyone considers bitcoin as an investment method and investment should be done only when we have met our basic necessities and have savings that can be invested with affordable risk.
So considering your friend's situation we can say that since he doesn't have a job right now, it wouldn't be wise for him to invest in bitcoin at this point of time.
If he had been earning then it would have made sense but right now the time is to find a job and then start earning and then may be consider investing in bitcoin.
He's just going to make things more and more difficult for himself even after putting all that efforts.Bitcoin investments is not quite something that you should do without proper knowledge of the understandable features.
You could have options to consider,and there are risks of losses attached to it,because you could lose everything,its going to be a great loss for him to make such a wreckage.
Investing in bitcoin is not for the weak,also when trying to suggest to someone to invest in bitcoin,ensure that the information don't sound coerced so he doesn't regret his decisions.
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 1192
sometimes he tells me that he's afraid to invest his money on the bitcoin due to the potential losses.

You potentially could lose everything you own. It's possible for your house to burn down, your bank to go bankrupt, your car to be stolen. Are you afraid it will happen? Are you losing sleep every night thinking about it? I sure don't.

Yes' there's a chance to lose everything when you buy bitcoin, but there's also a chance to lose it all when you continue to hold fiat money.
IMO buying bitcoin is one of the smartest things you can do in life.
sr. member
Activity: 2520
Merit: 280
Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com
My cousin who in time i asked to investment on bitcoin but has always had excuses that he'll invest later, sometimes he tells me that he's afraid to invest his money on the bitcoin due to the potential losses.
He had aslo told me that he's contented with his monthly salaries at then but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.

This has someone living a luxurious life without undermining that his job is just temporarynand economy inflations could affect his savings.
Then I reminded him that the bitcoin investment isn't a get quick rich and for an individual who has bills and financial needs to respond to as responsibility, you must have an alternative source of income by which your bitcoin investment can only be fertilexbti yield profits when you invested and doesn't panic it to grow else he may end up selling his bitcoin at lost having me to be blamed.

So I've told him that I'm not involved if he gets to Invest at this time because I know he'd panic over the volatiles of the bitcoin market since he doesn't have  another source by which he can rely on earning income to process his financial needs. The choice is his to decide because if he had alternated his source of earning to bitcoin since I told him, the dividends of his bitcoin assets would had be reliable to him after much he may have made some profits from it. It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them


Not just bitcoin, but any investment in this world will not be enough for someone who just lost their life now wanted to continue their same lifestyle for certain period of time only with the returns they get from investing on to something.

I would say it's better to keep the savings for the cash flow that is going to be required to meet the needs meanwhile you find a job that can give you the same salary package that you were receiving earlier. Bitcoin is not quick rich scheme definitely not for someone who is in desperate situation of money making since any kind of investment needs patience and it should be long term to get the actual returns.
sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 274
My cousin who in time i asked to investment on bitcoin but has always had excuses that he'll invest later, sometimes he tells me that he's afraid to invest his money on the bitcoin due to the potential losses.
He had aslo told me that he's contented with his monthly salaries at then but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.

This has someone living a luxurious life without undermining that his job is just temporarynand economy inflations could affect his savings.
Then I reminded him that the bitcoin investment isn't a get quick rich and for an individual who has bills and financial needs to respond to as responsibility, you must have an alternative source of income by which your bitcoin investment can only be fertilexbti yield profits when you invested and doesn't panic it to grow else he may end up selling his bitcoin at lost having me to be blamed.

So I've told him that I'm not involved if he gets to Invest at this time because I know he'd panic over the volatiles of the bitcoin market since he doesn't have  another source by which he can rely on earning income to process his financial needs. The choice is his to decide because if he had alternated his source of earning to bitcoin since I told him, the dividends of his bitcoin assets would had be reliable to him after much he may have made some profits from it. It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them
That was your cousin's first mistake, why he didn't want to invest even though he was still earning or working. I see your brother has a very high fear of losing his money.  What makes your cousin want to invest in Bitcoin? Is your sibling pressured by his necessities because he doesn't have a job anymore? If you at least know that your sibling is no longer working, the step or action you should take is that you must strictly forbid your sibling from investing. This is not recommended by anyone, if someone has no income but wants to invest then it is very risky for their finances.
full member
Activity: 784
Merit: 115
Suggesting investing in Bitcoin with someone who has no income is not a good idea. He still has difficulty making ends meet so he will definitely have difficulty investing in Bitcoin. Most people who are in that condition will not want to invest in Bitcoin and will prioritize meeting their living needs first. That is why we have to be careful when explaining investment in Bitcoin, and we have to make sure that he already has a steady income so that he can manage his finances and have money to start investing in Bitcoin. We also don't need to force him to invest in Bitcoin because it is a choice.
EFS
staff
Activity: 3934
Merit: 2224
Crypto Swap Exchange
Don't give investment advice to anyone. If they lose money, they will blame you. If they make money, they will blame you for why they didn't take more risks, why they didn't invest more money.
Investing in Bitcoin is a good choice regardless of alternative income streams. Investing is done with surplus money that you don't need at the moment. If you are using emergency money for any kind of investment, you need to anticipate the consequences in the event of a negative situation.
jr. member
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
I am somewhat disappointed by your discussion as I have heard enough about the positive aspects of Bitcoin that I became interested in investing in Bitcoin. I don't have any experienced people around me from whom I can take help in this matter so I took this forum to know and learn about Bitcoin. I will definitely take the risk of money but if the market only goes down after I invest then the outcome will go against me which I will find very difficult to accept.
full member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 212
★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!
What you did was right. Bitcoin is not a place to get rich quickly, someone who wants to invest in Bitcoin must be aware of the risks of their investment in this instrument. If they don't have enough money, but want to invest in Bitcoin, then they don't need to invest in this asset, because they would rather use the money to find work or their other needs. Because the price of Bitcoin can go up and down, and when someone has no income but they still want to invest in Bitcoin with their last money, then in the end they will still sell the Bitcoin they hold to cover their needs - why invest if in the end you sell it in no time.
It is very true if we think that Bitcoin is not a place that will make us rich quickly and understanding the risks of investing in Bitcoin is of course very important, because it is impossible for someone to start investing without properly understanding the risks of the investment they are making.
Delaying investing because we don't have funds that we can invest is very good, because it is very impossible to be able to carry out investments well if they still have difficulty meeting their needs and it would be very good if they looked for a job that can meet their needs so they can prepare themselves to make investments.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1402
Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!
I'd change the sentiment to 'don't advise anyone to invest in Bitcoin', period. Believing in Bitcoin and even educating people a bit about Bitcoin is one thing, but recommending investing in it is completely different. Any investment is a financial risk, even if Bitcoin seems like a good investment option. I fully agree that a person needs to be able to afford to invest in Bitcoin, so there should be some source of that extra funding in order to invest, so that it doesn't jeopardize basic well-being. That being said, this funding doesn't have to come from an alternative source of income. If a person has a surplus of income at the main workplace, or simply some extra funding from anywhere, it can be invested in Bitcoin.


hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 680
Even they have multiple source of incomes or rich, I won't suggest them to invest on Bitcoin.

Why I need to risk my privacy and spend my time when I didn't get anything, moreover it just make me to take risk for getting blamed if the Bitcoin price didn't go to the direction that they predict.

Most people have cell phones, if they interested with Bitcoin, they already googled to learn and find to tutorial how to buy Bitcoin.
sr. member
Activity: 1106
Merit: 391
What you did was right. Bitcoin is not a place to get rich quickly, someone who wants to invest in Bitcoin must be aware of the risks of their investment in this instrument. If they don't have enough money, but want to invest in Bitcoin, then they don't need to invest in this asset, because they would rather use the money to find work or their other needs. Because the price of Bitcoin can go up and down, and when someone has no income but they still want to invest in Bitcoin with their last money, then in the end they will still sell the Bitcoin they hold to cover their needs - why invest if in the end you sell it in no time.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 619
You did the right thing, obviously.
A lot of new investors in the market have a wrong perception about cryptocurrencies because they think they can make an investment and keep earning money constantly like how one can get some commission by staking their funds in a pool or something. They don't understand how cryptocurrency investments work which becomes the reason for them to lose money when they make their investments and then panic sell when they see the prices declining.

So, if someone comes to you asking for advice on making investments in cryptocurrencies, you should let them know the risks involved and tell them what they don't know and then ask them to do their research before they take any step to avoid unnecessary losses.
sr. member
Activity: 1666
Merit: 426
People always want to overdo it in the crypto space, even if all they can spare for Bitcoin investment is one percent of their monthly salary they will feel the hype later and increase the amount themselves, I know people who do this just because they want to have a lot of Bitcoin as fast as possible.
That's because no one taught them how to restrain themselves, they don't like the idea that they're going to miss out right now and they feel like something is really awesome within them if they're invested into cryptocurrency. Most newbies do it, I think it's always the case because no one guided them to not overdo it and also, it's worth noting that when you do it the first, you also have this feeling that what you've just invested in crypto isn't enough and so you go and do it again and you buy more so you can see the asset that you currently hodl to be much bigger

Totally in agreement with that advice, if you will starve just so you can invest in bitcoin, it's probably in your best interest that you find a way to make more money and with that, you will have a spare money which you can then use to your liking or to invest in bitcoin without the worry that your basic needs aren't met.
hero member
Activity: 1974
Merit: 586
Free Crypto Faucet in Trustdice
So I've told him that I'm not involved if he gets to Invest at this time because I know he'd panic over the volatiles of the bitcoin market since he doesn't have  another source by which he can rely on earning income to process his financial needs. The choice is his to decide because if he had alternated his source of earning to bitcoin since I told him, the dividends of his bitcoin assets would had be reliable to him after much he may have made some profits from it. It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them

He wants to invest in Bitcoin not because he understands and is amazed by what Bitcoin has to offer, but he just the FOMO of seeing you who have achieved success through Bitcoin and ultimately wants to follow the same path but with a different point of view. You don't need to be responsible if at any time he feels at a loss or panics, because basically investing in Bitcoin is not just putting in money. There are many things to learn, and you must have a strong reason for deciding to invest in Bitcoin. If these things are not taken into account, then the investment is considered unclear. Investing is not a get rich quick way in any asset, including Bitcoin. But to give us awareness about financial management long term.
full member
Activity: 938
Merit: 108
OrangeFren.com
My cousin who in time i asked to investment on bitcoin but has always had excuses that he'll invest later, sometimes he tells me that he's afraid to invest his money on the bitcoin due to the potential losses.
He had aslo told me that he's contented with his monthly salaries at then but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.

This has someone living a luxurious life without undermining that his job is just temporarynand economy inflations could affect his savings.
Then I reminded him that the bitcoin investment isn't a get quick rich and for an individual who has bills and financial needs to respond to as responsibility, you must have an alternative source of income by which your bitcoin investment can only be fertilexbti yield profits when you invested and doesn't panic it to grow else he may end up selling his bitcoin at lost having me to be blamed.

So I've told him that I'm not involved if he gets to Invest at this time because I know he'd panic over the volatiles of the bitcoin market since he doesn't have  another source by which he can rely on earning income to process his financial needs. The choice is his to decide because if he had alternated his source of earning to bitcoin since I told him, the dividends of his bitcoin assets would had be reliable to him after much he may have made some profits from it. It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them


You know your cousin is funny; when he still had a source of income, he didn't think of investing in Bitcoin, which would have been a better opportunity for him because he somehow had a source to sell Bitcoin while doing DCA. 

Although he now thinks of investing when he no longer has a stable job, which will be more of a hassle and challenge for him in the beginning, good luck in starting to invest in Bitcoin.
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 289
So I've told him that I'm not involved if he gets to Invest at this time because I know he'd panic over the volatiles of the bitcoin market since he doesn't have  another source by which he can rely on earning income to process his financial needs. The choice is his to decide because if he had alternated his source of earning to bitcoin since I told him, the dividends of his bitcoin assets would had be reliable to him after much he may have made some profits from it. It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them

You are right and this is a good advice for him. If he has invested in Bitcoin a while back, he would have by now be in profit, but he is coming back to Bitcoin just because he lost his job, which means that he is here for money that will be used to care for his needs.

NB: Bitcoin investment is not a get rich scheme, you need to be patient to be able to earn from the investment; it is also not advisable to invest all your money in Bitcoin, it is advisable to invest the amount you can afford to lose, and your Brother's money is something he cannot afford to lose.
Therefore, your brother should consider learning crypto trading instead so that he can know how to analyze the market and earn a leaving for himself.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 4265
✿♥‿♥✿
It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them


The last sentence made me laugh. OP, teach living luxuriously and economically. How do you imagine this?  
To be an investor, no matter where, you always need free capital. There can be no talk of any investment at all if people live and work only on food and clothing. And sometimes I read stories that people only have enough of their salary to buy food. If you skimp on this, your health will soon be ruined, and then additional problems will arise with the purchase of medicines. You always have to think about this. But I will agree that someone could deprive themselves of some alcoholic beverages, gambling, and other entertainment and instead buy some Bitcoin, realizing that this money could go nowhere. Moreover, campaigning for investments of other people's money, knowing that finances do not allow this, is tantamount to leading people into another abyss. Give people information and freedom of choice.
full member
Activity: 490
Merit: 209
It is not easy to suggest Bitcoin investment to new people, even if you already know about it, but new people will not easily believe it even if you provide proof of good profits from Bitcoin. Especially for those who feel comfortable with the income they earn every month, because there will definitely be worries.
Since this person is your cousin, you should invite him to do a business that is easy for him to understand and that he also knows about profitable businesses. And with this you can meet often and have a lot of free time to educate your cousins ​​about the benefits and advantages of Bitcoin, and having a business is one of the best ways when you lose your job.
And I'm sure this way your cousin will definitely be interested if he really understands and has enough knowledge about everything related to Bitcoin and the risks involved, and he will definitely start while he is still working and doing business with you. And when he lost his job, he still had a business and also invested in Bitcoin, and it was all because of you.

It is not actually easy because people always start with the good side of it and they get interested immediately but if not someone that is also desperate instead of asking a question they are more interested in making a profit than knowing about the risk that investing comes with, or even security of how to keep your assets self. but they won't ask they will jump in steps and be asking when to start and how to start making money. and what they fail to understand again is that you can not compare yourself with someone who has been in the system for a very long time. but they will always want to show their self and compare and if you do things like that you will not learn.

Even if the person is family is better to make everything clear because a lot of people will want to trade but do not know what is behind trading, but when you make everything clear you won't have a problem because they know the dangers and the risk and they still want to trade that shows they are dedicated about learning, and if they have another source of income will even make things much easier because they wont rely on trading alone. and one source of income no longer works because bills keep increasing. and bitcoin is not a bad idea to turn to, so everything at the end of the day will be in the hands of the person interested in learning trading if he or she wants to actually learn.
sr. member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 363
My cousin who in time i asked to investment on bitcoin but has always had excuses that he'll invest later, sometimes he tells me that he's afraid to invest his money on the bitcoin due to the potential losses.
He had aslo told me that he's contented with his monthly salaries at then but now he has fall back to me that he's ready to invest because he has lost his job and it's becoming tough for him to meet up with his financial requirements.

This has someone living a luxurious life without undermining that his job is just temporarynand economy inflations could affect his savings.
Then I reminded him that the bitcoin investment isn't a get quick rich and for an individual who has bills and financial needs to respond to as responsibility, you must have an alternative source of income by which your bitcoin investment can only be fertilexbti yield profits when you invested and doesn't panic it to grow else he may end up selling his bitcoin at lost having me to be blamed.

So I've told him that I'm not involved if he gets to Invest at this time because I know he'd panic over the volatiles of the bitcoin market since he doesn't have  another source by which he can rely on earning income to process his financial needs. The choice is his to decide because if he had alternated his source of earning to bitcoin since I told him, the dividends of his bitcoin assets would had be reliable to him after much he may have made some profits from it. It'd had also served as means of savings and factor to encourage him to be economical with his luxury life which he doesn't have the potential to continuesly afford them


Don't feel bad regarding on his decision since after all its really hard to trust something that you don't know. Maybe he's fine at his comfort zone since he think that he can stay long on his current job. Also it seems he is currently happy on what he's doing so don't get angry if he's decision is not to invest on bitcoin for now. But for sure later on once he realize that bitcoin is good currency and investment then for sure he will come to you and ask so hopefully you are still ready to guide him once he decide to invest on bitcoin.

Next time don't come unto those people who doesn't have clear interest to know about bitcoin since you might just really get disappointed on their answer since for sure they would provably decline your offer. But instead let those people come and see your result since for sure if they are so interested about bitcoin then they are the one who will find ways to learn information about bitcoin.

If he get broke due to his decision not to get out on his comfort zone then its unfortunate for him, but don't close your door on him and still have a good approach to teach him if he's ready to learn since for sure teaching those interested individual is fulfilling especially if they succeed on their investment also their activities on bitcoin and altcoin space.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
But bitcoin alone is not an income. That is if you're not doing anything with it, anyway. So talking about alternative income doesn't really make any sense here since technically he had no income at all.

That will be a lesson for OP's cousin and he should change his life plans if he doesn't want to be in this situation again. But I don't think investment will help us in case we are unemployed because there is no guarantee that investment will always bring profit. Investment needs to have a long-term vision and must be completely separate from daily needs, only taking profits when the set goals are achieved. I think saving will be more effective in case we are unemployed than investing.

Investment is only good if you've already done it, and it's only going to help you not run out of money. It won't help you if you're trying to make more money.
Pages:
Jump to: