Topic: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus! - page 24. (Read 7241 times)

That news report seems a bit philosophical to me. I don't know the definition of "critically ill" but coronaviruses have complications of causing pneumonia, which, in most cases 70+% of healthy individuals will show fever like symptoms and then go on its own... Generally the problems from coronavirus afaik are caused by hemmorrages opening up in alvioli thar t can't clot and die in typically vulnerable patients, which greatly increases symptoms of pneumonia and can turn it into a propagation stage where recovery becomes inevitably unlikely (in around 2.5% of coronavirus patients and a tiny number of pneumonia patients).

They also don't seem to mention face masks at all but the rest of that information seemed reasonable.

Mask protection levels
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The other day a 101 year old recovered, 96 year old recovered, a 73 another 100....

Viruses have been around forever, how about this for successful treatment
https://youtu.be/VrhkoFcOMII

Here the guardian have their say about face mask.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/10/can-face-mask-stop-coronavirus-covid-19-facts-checked

The authorities asks not to buy a face mask because people may overbuy it making it scarce for the ones that needs the most like patient, their relatives and healtworkers.

Yes, listen to the man. Wear glasses with your masks!


And if you're 35, not over and not under, you have to decide for yourself if it will be highly unlikely or just unlikely.

In reality, masks protect the people you interact with from being sneezed or spit at and contracting a virus this way. It doesn't protect you if you get in close contact with a sick person The virus will still land on your face and you'll later rub it into your eye, scratch yourself and get it under the fingernails, get it on your colar or scarf and later onto your lips.
I'd simply avoid large masses if there were a lot of infections in my area. People in Asia travel by packed underground trains a lot and this is probably the easiest way to catch a few germs.

Just be sure to carry your cell phone with you if you wear a mask because it screws up the current crop of facial recognition software.

@ITV
but the droplets can only stay airborn for a few feet, so a mask isn't going to help you unless you are robbing the supermarket, or someone coughs straight into your face. This virus isn't the same as previous ones, which were aerosols, and could carry through the air con systems.

Whatever your government may say, wearing a mask could be highly effective in saving you and your family from coronavirus.

Coronavirus spreads primarily through the respiratory droplets that infected people sneeze, cough, or exhale.
These droplets can enter your lungs directly through your nose or mouth while you are near to them or through touching the materials that consist of these droplets like door handles, cash or handshakes. For that to reach your nose and mouth, you just need to bring your hand close to your nose or mouth.
Though the virus is smaller than the pores in your mask, it can still stop the larger droplets from easily going inside. It would also stop you from regularly touching your mouth and nose.

General organizations suggest to use FFP2 and FFP3 types of mask.
FFP2 give you a 75% protection and FFP3 99%.
There is a huge difference in the price of those two masks but what you pay is what you get.

Thanks for that factual post Jack.

As I have said many rimes, the current Corona Virus doesn't spread by aerosols, but by droplets. So masks aren't much use unless a person is only a couple of feet in front of you, and coughs directly into your face. The problem comes when the droplets fall onto a surface, and you pick them up and move them to your eyes or mouth. Don't wash face masks either, and this expands the holes in them. You realise the stupidity of people when you see them wearing face masks, but not wearing gloves.

Your best protection is not to smoke or vape. Smoking increase ACE-2 receptors, and the virus uses those to bind to your cells. Strengthen your immune system with a healthy diet, and the avoidance of all vaccinations. Don't take any pharmaceutical or recreational drugs, as they weaken your immune system. Maintain an active sex life to stimulate blood flow and restful sleep.

How could you speak the crap things like this out?

What nonsense. The mask will provide at least minimal protection but in fact even more than the minimum. At least the sources of virus penetration into your body will become many times less.

Thanks for the information seems like the face mask is only being hoard to get it's price up.
They are making a lot of money because of this face mask I have seen some people who are selling face mask at a high price and bundle of it and have some high minimum box per order.
They are buying it due to their panic and wants to prevent from getting the virus but now that you have explained it I think they are just wasting their money.

Its only going to protect you if someone sprays droplets directly at your face.   That is not how most virus is contracted but its relevant in the context of a healthcare professional who is leaning their face towards the face of the symptomatic patient.  Walking down the street with one on is pointless.

I have been told by an associate who specialized in studying pathogens that an N95 - FFP2 or FFP3 rated mask is actually sufficient for providing at least some protection against the virus. He did explicitly say just a plain N95 mask was not enough.

If the people who carry the virus are already around you, you are probably already infected.

If you are going to get a mask, get something like this:



The others are only toys.

Edit: I bought a mask, I'm fairly neutral on the topic now but it became law and I'm not of an age where coronavirus should have little affect so it makes sense for others' protection.

if you're going to wear a mask, make sure it has a ridge on it and that you can breathe in and out normally without the mask moving. IF YOU BREATHE IN OR OUT HARD IT SHOULD MOVE SLIGHTLY BUT SHOULD MOULD BACK AND NOT ENTER YOUR MOUTH - IF IT ENTERS YOUR MOUTH AND GETS WET THEN IT'S POINTLESS. I used mjnd continuously for 5 hours and it seemed to have little effect on me.

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They won't protect you and you're just adding more waste to the land and water... They also don't cover your eyes which is probably how most infection gets in.

According to healthline and many other sources, COVID-19/the novel coronavirus has a diameter of ~120nm while face masks only have a filter up to 300nm. I've been looking through information on facemasks have two main purposes:
1. Industrial: This is where someone is commonly working with small particles that need to be blocked going into their respiratory tract, such as wood workers and the like. Thre is also a use case for these in China for their pollution levels since carbon particulates above 100 micrometers in size are known for increasing the risk of asthma and 300 micrometers are known for producing carcinogens pretty quickly (I hope i got that the right way round).
2. Medical: Contrary to what a lot of people would thiink, the N95 model (I'm told is the most popular in medicine) actually just stops the surgeon/practitioner from projecting salivery deposits onto a patient and aren't actually for reducing the amount of infection spread between the two - probably the reason most doctors actually don't wear these. Quarrentine outfits probably give the doctor a certain amount of time in with a patient before they're changed, or have additional tuping to allow for them to receive air from outside the quarrentine unit (either that or they have more advanced filters, there's probably some fancy electrostatics devices for this sort of thing).

Anyway, your face masks just mean you're improving everyone else's air quality and may mean your immune system starts to become complacent (well if my nose is already covered, I clearly don't have to do anything)...

And the eyes link back with the same tubes as your nose and mouth, hence why when you have strong eye drops, you can taste them in the back of your mouth or when you throw up you feel your eyes burning a little.

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IF you're under 35, it's highly unlikely it'll kill you.
If you're over 35 but are still pretty healthy, you shouldn't face much issue with it either. I've known 60&70 year olds to have caught pneumonia and barely noticed it (just got a temperature and shivers). If you worry about it too much or you're not healthy, that's when problems can start to arise and probably the hope with a lot of mainstream media that you will catch something and give a payout to big pharma (I'm looking at you USA)..