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hero member
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October 22, 2020, 04:47:17 PM
Face mask is mandatory to use here due to the virus. It can protect yourself and others as well to not be infected if you happen to have a virus.

We need to follow the rule in order to stop the spread of the virus but some people are not taking it seriously. Its hard for them to abide and still doing what they think is right. This is the reason why the number of infected each day here is still thousands and it seems it will continue this way unless the vaccine is already available in the market.
legendary
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October 22, 2020, 04:41:15 PM
Somebody really needs to tell the Lone Ranger that he doesn't need a mask. After all, Tonto doesn't wear one.

 Grin
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October 22, 2020, 04:30:43 PM
I don't wear masks! Someone recommended self-made masks from homemade materials is the worst that can be. If you have a carbon monoxide detector at home, put it under the hood for a moment. See what happens!
legendary
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October 17, 2020, 11:40:30 AM
For a professional (OSHA) look at masks. Also, look at the CDC's study that shows that masks are useless.

8.5 minute video - https://www.bitchute.com/video/bfpl9eKVs4dm/

Cool


The CDC's recommendation were made in March when they advocated against facemasks, and you know what, I am in very light agreement with you (but probably for different reasons  Wink)

The CDC now recommends face masks but the reality is, not many European countries with COVID-19 flair ups are mandating masks because the studies are split on how much masks make a difference.

There were some studies that suggested other factors a part from mask wearing determine the chance of catching COVID from another person like type of interaction, length of interaction, separation, ect. It isn't clear what type of affect mask wearing has on asymptomatic transmission which is exactly why all the doctors in the U.S. did not advocate for mask wearing back in March. They flip the script obviously because masks don't hurt, which I agree with -- they don't.

N95 respirators are clinically proven to stop the transmission of the virus. Those cheap masks from china that don't even create a proper seal, or cloth masks that might have holes throughout, are far from ideal.


However, in the video that I linked above, OSHA people say that N95 masks don't work. OSHA has been testing them for many years.

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legendary
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October 17, 2020, 02:26:20 AM
For a professional (OSHA) look at masks. Also, look at the CDC's study that shows that masks are useless.

8.5 minute video - https://www.bitchute.com/video/bfpl9eKVs4dm/

Cool


The CDC's recommendation were made in March when they advocated against facemasks, and you know what, I am in very light agreement with you (but probably for different reasons  Wink)

The CDC now recommends face masks but the reality is, not many European countries with COVID-19 flair ups are mandating masks because the studies are split on how much masks make a difference.

There were some studies that suggested other factors a part from mask wearing determine the chance of catching COVID from another person like type of interaction, length of interaction, separation, ect. It isn't clear what type of affect mask wearing has on asymptomatic transmission which is exactly why all the doctors in the U.S. did not advocate for mask wearing back in March. They flip the script obviously because masks don't hurt, which I agree with -- they don't.

N95 respirators are clinically proven to stop the transmission of the virus. Those cheap masks from china that don't even create a proper seal, or cloth masks that might have holes throughout, are far from ideal.


legendary
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October 16, 2020, 09:58:10 PM
For a professional (OSHA) look at masks. Also, look at the CDC's study that shows that masks are useless.

8.5 minute video - https://www.bitchute.com/video/bfpl9eKVs4dm/

Cool
newbie
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October 16, 2020, 02:29:55 PM
In any case, it is better to wear masks for everyone.
First of all, it is important to know how the new coronavirus infection spreads. It is now known that there are two main transmission routes. Firstly, these are drops that fly out of a person when he coughs, sneezes and, for example, speaks. They go down rather quickly and if they end up on the mucous membranes of another person, he can get sick. Secondly, it is contact with contaminated surfaces. If a sick person coughed into his palm, then touched the doorknob, and then you grabbed it and rubbed your nose, then this can also lead to infection.

Another possible route for the spread of the virus is through smaller droplets that remain in the air for a long time. However, there is currently no evidence that under normal conditions, when you do not perform complex manipulations in the intensive care unit, such particles can be in the air.

Masks can protect you if a person coughs at you at a distance of less than two meters. That is why they are necessary for medical professionals who often find themselves in this situation. But they will not protect from infection through contact with a contaminated surface - as well as from smaller drops (if an ordinary person can meet them at all).
sr. member
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Pro financial, medical liberty
October 15, 2020, 10:51:46 AM
You need face masks almost anywhere these days. Without them you are kit allowed to enter stores, offices or restaurants. So we all need them, there is no way around it. Which doesn't mean we need to buy them. Face masks can easily made at home out of old clothes. One good thing from making masks yourself is that you can wash them at home and reuse them. The cheap hospital masks can't usually be washed and have to been thrown away eventually. A home made mask from cotton can be washed by 60C+ to kill the virus.
Cloth or fabric mask is still a good thing to have when you go outside because it still helps ..............

Only two ways of getting a virus, injecting with a needle or mosquito. How on earth will a mask or shield (aka battlehelm as worn in war) prevent a mosquito sting. Malaria would no longer exist.
In this world war some see imagenary enemy at every spare space.
jr. member
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October 15, 2020, 01:59:43 AM
You need face masks almost anywhere these days. Without them you are kit allowed to enter stores, offices or restaurants. So we all need them, there is no way around it. Which doesn't mean we need to buy them. Face masks can easily made at home out of old clothes. One good thing from making masks yourself is that you can wash them at home and reuse them. The cheap hospital masks can't usually be washed and have to been thrown away eventually. A home made mask from cotton can be washed by 60C+ to kill the virus.
Cloth or fabric mask is still a good thing to have when you go outside because it still helps in keeping you and others safe from each other in case one of you is infected without knowing it or what we called asymptomatic but if you still want a decent protection surgical mask is the best options specially if you still go to work and interact with some people, that thing will prevent you from the virus and if you have some cash you can also buy a faceshield which will really help you avoiding the virus and you can just wear a simple fabric mask if you are wearing a face shield because you have 2 layers of protection already. 
legendary
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October 14, 2020, 10:29:00 AM
^^^ Such has been a very small problem in my part of the USA. However, part of the answer that few people are acting on is to form Private Membership Associations (PMAs).

A PMA is outside the jurisdiction of standard governmental control. There are 70 strong Supreme Court cases that say so, and Amendments 1 and 4 virtually state it. In other words, no masks required if the PMA agrees with this idea.

We can add farms and stores and restaurants to the PMA, and we won't need strict licensing in any of them... if we need licensing at all. Those people who want to follow PMA freedom, will have to sign up and become members. Those who don't, simply won't.

If government wants to enforce mask rules in PMAs, the courts can be used to require the government people to provide proof that there really is a Covid virus, etc., that is a danger to people within the PMA, and without. So far, Covid proof is so difficult to come by that it might be non-existent. Everything Covid is based on hearsay and assumptions. If they can't prove the danger, they have no case.

Cool
hero member
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October 14, 2020, 06:15:10 AM
You need face masks almost anywhere these days. Without them you are kit allowed to enter stores, offices or restaurants. So we all need them, there is no way around it. Which doesn't mean we need to buy them. Face masks can easily made at home out of old clothes. One good thing from making masks yourself is that you can wash them at home and reuse them. The cheap hospital masks can't usually be washed and have to been thrown away eventually. A home made mask from cotton can be washed by 60C+ to kill the virus.
sr. member
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Pro financial, medical liberty
October 14, 2020, 02:41:38 AM
^^^ State sponsored education system continued.

Go to the site to watch the Robert Redfield video (CDC Head).


CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks



A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 "case-patients," who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from the same health care facility who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite "always" wearing a mask.

"In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public," the report stated.



In addition, over 14 percent of the case-patients said they "often" wore a face covering and were still infected with the virus. The study also demonstrates that under 4 percent of the case-patients became sick with the virus even though they "never" wore a mask or face covering.

Despite over 70 percent of the case-patient participants' efforts to follow CDC recommendations by committing to always wearing face coverings at "gatherings with ≤10 or >10 persons in a home; shopping; dining at a restaurant; going to an office setting, salon, gym, bar/coffee shop, or church/religious gathering; or using public transportation," they still contracted the virus.

While the study notes that some of these people may have contracted the virus from the few moments that they removed their mask to eat or drink at "places that offer on-site eating or drinking," the CDC concedes that there is no successful way to evaluate if that was the exact moment someone became exposed and contracted the virus.

"Characterization of community exposures can be difficult to assess when widespread transmission is occurring, especially from asymptomatic persons within inherently interconnected communities," the report states.

In fact, the report suggests that "direction, ventilation, and intensity of airflow might affect virus transmission, even if social distancing measures and mask use are implemented according to current guidance."

Despite this new scientific information, the CDC, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci, and many political authorities are still encouraging people to wear masks. Many states and cities have even mandated masks, citing them as one of the main tools to "slow the spread" of coronavirus and keep case numbers in their area down.

CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield makes it as clear as he can: "This face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine."
[See the video.]


Cool


No surprise there.
The body needs oxygen, prevending the CO2 from proper exiting will make blood acidic, lead to illness or dead, depending on percent of CO2 concentration. Oxygen intake of 19.5%-23.5% normal only 6% dead. Mask reduce it to about 17% or even dead, 6 kids knowingly dyed from wearing mask and doing sports. The science for it is simple the fine mask with moisture form a cohesive bond, Surface tension transforming the mask to a "plastic bag".
The body working 24/7 to get rid of CO2 and give it to the trees and gras who need it to exist. Some even working against the own body and forcefully reintroducing the gas by drinking co2 (cola, fanta, gasous mineral water....), slightly on the insane side, but lets not stray to far away.

https://www.sott.net/article/442455-German-Neurologist-Warns-Against-Wearing-Facemasks-Oxygen-Deprivation-Causes-Permanent-Neurological-Damage#
legendary
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October 13, 2020, 09:37:18 PM
^^^ State sponsored education system continued.

Go to the site to watch the Robert Redfield video (CDC Head).


CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks



A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 "case-patients," who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from the same health care facility who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite "always" wearing a mask.

"In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public," the report stated.



In addition, over 14 percent of the case-patients said they "often" wore a face covering and were still infected with the virus. The study also demonstrates that under 4 percent of the case-patients became sick with the virus even though they "never" wore a mask or face covering.

Despite over 70 percent of the case-patient participants' efforts to follow CDC recommendations by committing to always wearing face coverings at "gatherings with ≤10 or >10 persons in a home; shopping; dining at a restaurant; going to an office setting, salon, gym, bar/coffee shop, or church/religious gathering; or using public transportation," they still contracted the virus.

While the study notes that some of these people may have contracted the virus from the few moments that they removed their mask to eat or drink at "places that offer on-site eating or drinking," the CDC concedes that there is no successful way to evaluate if that was the exact moment someone became exposed and contracted the virus.

"Characterization of community exposures can be difficult to assess when widespread transmission is occurring, especially from asymptomatic persons within inherently interconnected communities," the report states.

In fact, the report suggests that "direction, ventilation, and intensity of airflow might affect virus transmission, even if social distancing measures and mask use are implemented according to current guidance."

Despite this new scientific information, the CDC, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci, and many political authorities are still encouraging people to wear masks. Many states and cities have even mandated masks, citing them as one of the main tools to "slow the spread" of coronavirus and keep case numbers in their area down.

CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield makes it as clear as he can: "This face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine."
[See the video.]


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legendary
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October 08, 2020, 01:23:02 PM
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Most countries encourage the use of masks so it really works.

State sponsored education system FTW!

legendary
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October 08, 2020, 01:20:49 PM
I do not agree with such propaganda. The coronavirus spreads through the respiratory tract. Waste, blood, and salivary glands will be carriers of the virus. We disregard blood and waste products because they are routinely handled properly and people do not have as much contact with them as our daily interactions. So wearing a mask is a way to limit people from spreading the virus into the community. Wearing a mask protects ourselves and protects others.

The quoted post is exactly the reason why we are losing our freedom, why the economy is crashing, and why people are becoming sicker. Poor people like noorammak are the way so many of the people are. You can show them a picture of how ineffective masks are right above where they posted - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55328354 - and you can explain it in the video at the same place, and they still want a pandemic.

What is with these sick people? Is this what the Covid virus has done to their brain? Has it really made them so that they can't see the facts even when the facts stare them in the face?

And what's worse is, they don't simply want to hunker down and run from wisdom, but they want to bring as many people as they can into their stupidity. Are they paid trolls? Are there really thousands of paid trolls out there?

Cool
What are you trying to say? Masks are available to help us avoid contact with respiratory pathogens.
Doctors still use masks to prevent disease when in contact with patients. So why don't we use them? Where to wear a mask to lose freedom? Use masks to protect us from germs. Most countries encourage the use of masks so it really works.

We absolutely should do what we can to remain Covid free. But masks aren't the way... at least not in the way they are being used. Check the video in the link. Even if a mask stops one or two Covid viruses, they produce all kinds of other problems that are worse than Covid. Check the video in the link.

Doctors use masks for two reasons:
1. to stop their own spittle from directly flying into a patient's wound;
2. to slow down their own inhalation of water droplets and the bacteria that are in them... because inhalation can actually suck the mask tighter onto their face.

The way average people use masks might do one thing. The might stop a little spittle from jumping onto something or somebody that is right in front of them when they speak. The video shows that the masks do very little in stopping the spread of water droplets that might contain Covid and many other things.

At the same time the masks are ineffective at stopping the spread from a person, they are dangerous to both the wearer, and to others, from the multiplication of bacteria that takes place within the masks... bacteria mostly from the wearer. As bacteria exhaled from the wear grow on the inside of a mask, it is sucked back into the wearer on the inhale. Then it is blown all around to others on the exhale, as shown in the video.

The losing of freedom isn't from voluntarily wearing a mask. The loss of freedom comes from forcing both, those want to wear to not wear, and those who don't want to wear to wear. The better protection, as I have outlined, is to NOT wear. But freedom is most important.

Cool
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October 08, 2020, 08:32:17 AM
I do not agree with such propaganda. The coronavirus spreads through the respiratory tract. Waste, blood, and salivary glands will be carriers of the virus. We disregard blood and waste products because they are routinely handled properly and people do not have as much contact with them as our daily interactions. So wearing a mask is a way to limit people from spreading the virus into the community. Wearing a mask protects ourselves and protects others.

The quoted post is exactly the reason why we are losing our freedom, why the economy is crashing, and why people are becoming sicker. Poor people like noorammak are the way so many of the people are. You can show them a picture of how ineffective masks are right above where they posted - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55328354 - and you can explain it in the video at the same place, and they still want a pandemic.

What is with these sick people? Is this what the Covid virus has done to their brain? Has it really made them so that they can't see the facts even when the facts stare them in the face?

And what's worse is, they don't simply want to hunker down and run from wisdom, but they want to bring as many people as they can into their stupidity. Are they paid trolls? Are there really thousands of paid trolls out there?

Cool
What are you trying to say? Masks are available to help us avoid contact with respiratory pathogens.
Doctors still use masks to prevent disease when in contact with patients. So why don't we use them? Where to wear a mask to lose freedom? Use masks to protect us from germs. Most countries encourage the use of masks so it really works.
legendary
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October 07, 2020, 12:39:07 PM
I do not agree with such propaganda. The coronavirus spreads through the respiratory tract. Waste, blood, and salivary glands will be carriers of the virus. We disregard blood and waste products because they are routinely handled properly and people do not have as much contact with them as our daily interactions. So wearing a mask is a way to limit people from spreading the virus into the community. Wearing a mask protects ourselves and protects others.

The quoted post is exactly the reason why we are losing our freedom, why the economy is crashing, and why people are becoming sicker. Poor people like noorammak are the way so many of the people are. You can show them a picture of how ineffective masks are right above where they posted - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55328354 - and you can explain it in the video at the same place, and they still want a pandemic.

What is with these sick people? Is this what the Covid virus has done to their brain? Has it really made them so that they can't see the facts even when the facts stare them in the face?

And what's worse is, they don't simply want to hunker down and run from wisdom, but they want to bring as many people as they can into their stupidity. Are they paid trolls? Are there really thousands of paid trolls out there?

Cool
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October 07, 2020, 10:39:28 AM
I do not agree with such propaganda. The coronavirus spreads through the respiratory tract. Waste, blood, and salivary glands will be carriers of the virus. We disregard blood and waste products because they are routinely handled properly and people do not have as much contact with them as our daily interactions. So wearing a mask is a way to limit people from spreading the virus into the community. Wearing a mask protects ourselves and protects others.
legendary
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October 06, 2020, 05:40:39 PM
According to CDC(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), sometimes you tested postitive for COvid-19 but don't show symptoms, which means you can infect someone without showing symptoms. So, I think skipping face mask is not a good decision. It's for others, not for you.
Using a mask when leaving the house does not guarantee that you will be safe but it will reduce your risk of contracting it...
Every country, especially a densely populated country, is sure to experience an explosion of corona sufferers, all of which are caused by public distrust of the government, all world governments suggest that their citizens wear masks, but today's society is more ignorant and less caring.

That's because many country and other government leaders don't know what they are talking about. Watch the first 5 minutes.


U.S. HEALTH LEADERS IGNORE THE SCIENCE

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rlWESmrijl8Q/



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sr. member
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October 06, 2020, 04:46:06 PM
According to CDC(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), sometimes you tested postitive for COvid-19 but don't show symptoms, which means you can infect someone without showing symptoms. So, I think skipping face mask is not a good decision. It's for others, not for you.
Using a mask when leaving the house does not guarantee that you will be safe but it will reduce your risk of contracting it...
Every country, especially a densely populated country, is sure to experience an explosion of corona sufferers, all of which are caused by public distrust of the government, all world governments suggest that their citizens wear masks, but today's society is more ignorant and less caring.
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