Don't expect everyone to embrace Bitcoin - page 8.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

The earlier we understand that bitcoin is not for everyone, the better because it saves us the time and energy that we would have used to convince those who are uninterested, to move on to those who are interested and it can also drive adoption faster. I've read some threads here of some people trying to convince their family members on the positives of Bitcoin and get enraged if the said members don't share the same opinion as them but I feel everyone is entitled to his opinion and while some regard Bitcoin with outright disgust like Charlie Munger, there are some who care less of it's existence.

Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?

To be sincere with you OP, what you said is the truth because these days is like people are enforcing Bitcoin on other people who don't seem to be interested, and you'd hear something like I preached to my colleagues about Bitcoin and they said this and that, no. Let it be like a story or should I say a discussion without making it look like you're forcing it on them, by then some might show interest while if you take it the wrong way they might see it as fake and it might look like what the government are saying about Bitcoin are true.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

The earlier we understand that bitcoin is not for everyone, the better because it saves us the time and energy that we would have used to convince those who are uninterested, to move on to those who are interested and it can also drive adoption faster.

You shouldn’t force anyone to invest in bitcoin, but even people that are not interested in bitcoin can be enlighten more about bitcoin, some people don’t have interest in bitcoin just because of what they are being told about bitcoin, so we can just take our time to enlighten them about what bitcoin is all about and is left for the person to accept bitcoin or not. Am sure if some people that are not interested in bitcoin are enlighten, some of them might end up having interest in bitcoin which is really nice, but no matter what you say, some of them won’t still be interested in bitcoin so we just have to leave the once that are not interested.

Quote from: Lorence.xD on July 19, 2023, 11:54:51 AM

Well it's good intention if you introduced Bitcoin to anyone but if they show some uninterested attitude then that's fine you don't need to literally convince them because you think that what you are doing in crypto industry, people should adopt that which is wrong. It's actually common sense even in other industry, if other people are good at math and some at arts then they excel at other industry same in the crypto.

It’s annoying when I see people complaining about people they introduce bitcoin to and they are not interested, we don’t expect everyone to be interested in bitcoin, some people really understand what bitcoin is all about but they are not still interested in investing in it, i won’t blame them for that, its normal and they have their own reason for not investing. But the only thing that annoys me is the people that are not interested in bitcoin but they will still end up saying bad things about bitcoin that’s the most annoying part. If you are not interested it’s normal but don’t say bad things about it.

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Everyone has their own interests and perspectives and we cannot impose our will on others.
Bitcoin for us is something that is very beneficial but it may not work for others. So in this case no one can really impose what we think is good on others.
When we try to do that, we ourselves will eventually be ostracized because we always do things that shouldn't be done.
All have their own perspective and all have their own will, let this continue to roll like that.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

The earlier we understand that bitcoin is not for everyone, the better because it saves us the time and energy that we would have used to convince those who are uninterested, to move on to those who are interested and it can also drive adoption faster. I've read some threads here of some people trying to convince their family members on the positives of Bitcoin and get enraged if the said members don't share the same opinion as them but I feel everyone is entitled to his opinion and while some regard Bitcoin with outright disgust like Charlie Munger, there are some who care less of it's existence.

There is a clear difference between forcing to convince and convincing to learn, the latter is what I think people who opened threads here are doing, they are happy to know about bitcoin because some people comes from where they are used to Fiat all their life and Bitcoin becomes a puzzle in their life which they were able to unlock and understand. With this, wouldn't you want to teach your family and friends about Bitcoin, about how it works and how payment can be made to anyone without any middle, that's what is enticing about Bitcoin.

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Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?

Not everyone will embrace Bitcoin and we are aware of it but it shouldn't be a limit to adoption, it will be spread until it get to people who don't know how it work and perhaps the right messages would change their mind and how traditional finance might have affected them to accept their life style, having Bitcoin and using it have its own way of making you unique.

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Everything has a hater nowadays. The more popular something/someone gets, the more haters it attracts. Bitcoin isn't an exception to this fact. Since bitcoin is widely popular nowadays, there are also many people that hate bitcoin without a valid reason. Some of these people hate it because they think they will never get rich from it if they buy bitcoin now so they see no point in investing in it. We should explain it to them that it is not (always) about getting rich. Bitcoin is life changing tech. It is providing an alternative to the banking system. Maybe in the future some of those haters will become un-banked and then they will use bitcoin because no bank will do any business with them. Then they will understand how stupid they were for dissing bitc.

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The way I see it, those who 'force' Bitcoin on their family members feel that's the only way to push adoption faster but there's something I've come to understand and I think someone mentioned it here and that is the fact that something that is good does not need much PR to make it go public.

The way I see it, some of these individuals who are apathetic somewhat might have a change of heart towards Bitcoin when the halving takes place next year.. and another beautiful thing about BTC is that no one can be late to the party when it comes to deciding to buy and hodl.

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It's obvious, like computers are not for everyone, or features like online banking. My parents never used online banking because they're old people who were used to paying cash in stores. In time they got familiar with using credit cards and ATMs but they never embraced the information age.

I feel like bitcoin is for everyone, just not in this century. 100 years from now, if bitcoin survives, everybody will understand it and find it easy to use.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

The earlier we understand that bitcoin is not for everyone, the better because it saves us the time and energy that we would have used to convince those who are uninterested, to move on to those who are interested and it can also drive adoption faster. I've read some threads here of some people trying to convince their family members on the positives of Bitcoin and get enraged if the said members don't share the same opinion as them but I feel everyone is entitled to his opinion and while some regard Bitcoin with outright disgust like Charlie Munger, there are some who care less of it's existence.

Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?

Such conditions are actually quite normal. When there are pros then there will definitely be cons so when talking about bitcoin there will definitely be a lot of debate about the pros and cons.
Everyone's thinking must be different in terms of views and stigmas so in this case we don't need to be strange and feel that bitcoin is a very good thing then we need to make everyone in bitcoin because the concept is not like that.
Bitcoin will be loved and admired only for people who love it and admire it alone regardless of the many who do not like bitcoin it is also their right because we also cannot force to make everyone love bitcoin.
We just need to focus on our original purpose of being here if we think bitcoin is something worthy then do this right so that you don't half-ass it but when you don't like this then it comes back to your choice too in the end.

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Quote from: Obari on July 19, 2023, 02:13:27 PM

I've always known and said that the best way to get because convinced to join bitcoin moving train is having a visible positive result and this is one of the easier way to convince people else you'll explain the hell out of yourself and still might not get any turn up which no one wishes for.
Just as the holy Bible talked about a prophet not appreciated in his hoke town and that's also applicable to the regular lifestyle because it is always very difficult for a family member to believe you especially when you're introducing something new to them when tbey haven't seen the physical results on you and that's why it's always easier if you're doing well in the industry which will be more easier for them.

Just hustle and let the result do the advert.

Nice talk bro, me myself feels explaining much to people that shows no interest in bitcoin is just a total waste of time and moreover people always seem to be interest if there are sudden changes in you so achieving success in bitcoin will likely catch the interest of your friends to you because they will rather curious to know the reason behind your success.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?

You can not force anyone to embrace bitcoin, people have to discover why bitcoin can benefit them if they buy it. And that is not all, they also need to know the right time to invest and not invest at the wrong time when bitcoin price has increased significantly.

We like or we do not like, people will invest in bitcoin. More people will know it and buy it and the price will continue to increase after long period of time. Some people may not like bitcoin and remain to be bitcoin critics, but if I can invest and make money, I do not care. That is life, everybody can not be on the same side

Everyone has its own say about bitcoin, some would end up acknowledging and become thankful that bitcoin exists, while others continue to make fake news about bitcoin because that’s what also their beliefs about bitcoin, and we have no control for that. However, what’s important is that bitcoiners know the real advantage of bitcoin, and that we keep gaining an edge and grab every opportunity that comes for bitcoin while others continue to miss it and might end up regretting wishing they have not curse bitcoin to death.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

The earlier we understand that bitcoin is not for everyone, the better because it saves us the time and energy that we would have used to convince those who are uninterested, to move on to those who are interested and it can also drive adoption faster. I've read some threads here of some people trying to convince their family members on the positives of Bitcoin and get enraged if the said members don't share the same opinion as them but I feel everyone is entitled to his opinion and while some regard Bitcoin with outright disgust like Charlie Munger, there are some who care less of it's existence.

Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?

I would agree. There's just some people that can't be convinced no matter what we do, and that's okay. I share the same sentiments with you to regarding people literally on the verge of disowning their parents/families just cause they don't agree with bitcoin and all that lmao. At the end of the day bitcoin's not gonna come out there and help you sign the papers in case shit hits the fan and you find yourself in the hospital. Plus they're your parents so at the very least despite not sharing the same opinions treat them with respect and honor, cause you're not gonna be able to blabber about bitcoin and all that if not for them anyway. End of the day, convince people and don't stop with the movement but learn to set boundaries and respect them especially for people who are really indignant with choosing not to adopt bitcoin ya know.

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Bitcoin shouldn't be forced on anyone. As satoshi himself said: "If you don't get it, I don't have the time to convince you".
The most we as bitcoiners should do is to explain the advantages of using Bitcoin, and wait for feedback, reactions, and questions. If there aren't any, or if everything is negative, close that chapter and move on.
People need to realize the benefits bitcoin gives them in comparison to fiat. If they do and they are interested, then you can involve them in more conversation and ask them to tell others what they have learned.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

The earlier we understand that bitcoin is not for everyone, the better because it saves us the time and energy that we would have used to convince those who are uninterested, to move on to those who are interested and it can also drive adoption faster. I've read some threads here of some people trying to convince their family members on the positives of Bitcoin and get enraged if the said members don't share the same opinion as them but I feel everyone is entitled to his opinion and while some regard Bitcoin with outright disgust like Charlie Munger, there are some who care less of it's existence.

Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?

Agreed, because many topics already made on this issue where many OPs tried to convey the same message. Such as one suggest not to force kids to learn about BTC and other suggested not to force family and relatives to learn the basics of BTC and you suggested not to force them. So, all of these topics have game me the idea which i already had but these topic are good reminder.

I agree with you, i recently read a topic about farmers like how they made a group together to invest and learn about BTC. Like why did they join together who convinced them. No body they just after profits maybe so when they see one of their own made some good profit they found it legit. Their beliefs about BTC might changed so now they are also interested in it.

Which is a good thing. So, instead of embracing the feature and use cases of BTC in front of others we should show them the reality of BTC Changing the world's finance system. Which will also help them to understand the value BTC have.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?

Here's the thing about us who try to "convince" or "persuade" some of our folks, family, and friends to embrace Bitcoin- we do not do it because we expect them to go all out and embrace it immediately we do it to impress on their subconscious minds that their lives could be at least 1% better by just investing in Bitcoin. You have no idea how much Bitcoin changes lives not even financially now but mentally and otherwise. I have yet to see anyone who invest in Bitcoin who is not situationally aware with current affairs in the financial world. Just by embracing Bitcoin some of us have become almost well versed in "investment banking". Some of us have learned about the technology behind it and have been motivated to acquire Blockchain tech skills. Some of us have been motivated to learn about cyber security to so that we can know the best practices to secure our Bitcoin. So pardon us when we talk about trying to "convince or persuade" our folks to embrace Bitcoin. It has transformed our lives all round.

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I've always known and said that the best way to get because convinced to join bitcoin moving train is having a visible positive result and this is one of the easier way to convince people else you'll explain the hell out of yourself and still might not get any turn up which no one wishes for.
Just as the holy Bible talked about a prophet not appreciated in his hoke town and that's also applicable to the regular lifestyle because it is always very difficult for a family member to believe you especially when you're introducing something new to them when tbey haven't seen the physical results on you and that's why it's always easier if you're doing well in the industry which will be more easier for them.

Just hustle and let the result do the advert.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

The earlier we understand that bitcoin is not for everyone, the better because it saves us the time and energy that we would have used to convince those who are uninterested, to move on to those who are interested and it can also drive adoption faster. I've read some threads here of some people trying to convince their family members on the positives of Bitcoin and get enraged if the said members don't share the same opinion as them but I feel everyone is entitled to his opinion and while some regard Bitcoin with outright disgust like Charlie Munger, there are some who care less of it's existence.

Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?

Everything has a pros and cons, so it is impossible for everyone to receive bitcoin too, like I say that you are handsome, not necessarily people agree with my expression about you, this is a basic logic, so we don't need to force what we are Know and we believe to others, it will make it a conflict between relationships with each other because of differences in opinions.

No one tells us to spread Bitcoin and to be accepted by your family or environment, even Satoshi does not tell you to do that.
But the usefulness we get from Bitcoin is certainly a goodness to us, and the initiative to spread it certainly does not become a wrong action, so that others also get the good of the existence of Bitcoin, but by imposing bitcoin on others is the wrong action, you only Need to try it, and do not care about the results, if anyone is interested then you must guide it, if not there, then don't force it.

But for some people who like the anonymity of Bitcoin ownership and do not like that other people know you have bitcoin, silence is a solution.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

The earlier we understand that bitcoin is not for everyone, the better because it saves us the time and energy that we would have used to convince those who are uninterested, to move on to those who are interested and it can also drive adoption faster. I've read some threads here of some people trying to convince their family members on the positives of Bitcoin and get enraged if the said members don't share the same opinion as them but I feel everyone is entitled to his opinion and while some regard Bitcoin with outright disgust like Charlie Munger, there are some who care less of it's existence.

Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?

Of a truth Bitcoin is not meant for everybody, and you don't have to force it to anyone rather allow them to see the importance and impart in your life.
Because if they do it without full interest and perhaps it crashes, there will be loss if trust in relationship which can lead to chaos. Investing in Bitcoin I have been think has to do with a strong determine mind full of interest.

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I'll only explain if they ask.
I know that bitcoin has some cons to a certain point of view, so I will explain at different levels of detail to suit their background.
I don't think someone would try to convince another guy of something unless one has motives to take advantage of that guy.

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It's never about confusing people, it's about enlightenment about Bitcoin, because many people don't do research on something they don't know, I have few well-known people that still tell me NO after telling them about the good things they can get if they acquire some Bitcoin, one said he has no reason to get involved because he is making six figures every month, they other said he cares about Fiat only and so on.

Telling people about the potential of Bitcoin is fun because I like my involvement with Bitcoin, so I don't think I am wasting my energy 🤔 I've never think that way, unless that person has an issue of approach, moreover I don't say a thing to strangers about Bitcoin because you don't know how they are going to behave.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on July 19, 2023, 07:09:30 AM

The earlier we understand that bitcoin is not for everyone, the better because it saves us the time and energy that we would have used to convince those who are uninterested, to move on to those who are interested and it can also drive adoption faster. I've read some threads here of some people trying to convince their family members on the positives of Bitcoin and get enraged if the said members don't share the same opinion as them but I feel everyone is entitled to his opinion and while some regard Bitcoin with outright disgust like Charlie Munger, there are some who care less of it's existence.

Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?

While it's true Bitcoiners can't force Bitcoin on everyone, there is a chance that Bitcoin itself will entice them to BTC due to the freedom it serves them.
Of all people to mention, you really choose Charlie Munger Jesus. Can't you see that dude has not yet upgraded his brain? He is like Pentium 2.

The internet has grown faster than we can imagine and AI may just take over some apps we use today but none will take over BTC. If anyone doesn't have BTC, they would chose L1 tokens than what Charlie can offer.

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