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Topic: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button - page 4. (Read 755 times)

legendary
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TBH, I don't know why users are here are thinking like posting is a race where we need to rush? I mean why? Why are they doing this? Because they're excited to share what they know?

Anyway, that's why we have the "Preview" Button, and the "Edit" Button to change something that we need to change. Cross checking? I'm already doing that while I'm typing though there are some times where I edit my post, I only edit them because I forgot to add something to my post. Like what others said here, Grammarly is also useful as well, but I never used it in any of my posts here. Not a native language speaker here, but I did watched some Youtube videos in the past regarding grammar though I believe that I still make mistakes especially with the punctuations.

Overall, just forget the mindset where "Posting is being rushed" because this isn't a race, but it's just a forum where we are sharing information. There's no reward in being first to post in a particular thread.
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Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
That's what Edit post and Preview button is here for anyway. Unless you're writing a blog post, then not all might care how you write as long as you can get your points across. There are some couple of extensions or apps that people could use to correct their grammar, but I do suggest that they just learn by their own in creating a perfect grammar.

Also people could still post to their local boards first if they're struggling writing a perfect grammar and nobody has an issue for that. It's a good starting point.

I think mostly using that and clicking the preview mode before clicking send. This is a good feature on forum and every users must read their response to any post since its better to find some grammar or wrong spelling on the paragraphs. Im not sure if someone just rushing their post right away cause thats a bad practice at all if ever they arent using the review mode.
It's what I use as well whenever I do Quick Replies in here. Rushing posts is indeed a not a really great way to learn.
legendary
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I think mostly using that and clicking the preview mode before clicking send. This is a good feature on forum and every users must read their response to any post since its better to find some grammar or wrong spelling on the paragraphs. Im not sure if someone just rushing their post right away cause thats a bad practice at all if ever they arent using the review mode.
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Post don't necessarily need to be 100% grammatically correct — as long as the thread is understandable, it's good enough. But if a certain user can't really make a thread that's at least mildly comprehensible, then there's a reason why we have Local sections.
Right the thread should make some sense and share something useful then grammatical errors can be ignored to some extent.I have seen some non native English speaker making threads in general board saying to ignore some mistakes and they should be motivated so they learn more in English also.For local boards they are taking active part in them but on bigger levels small mistakes don't matter a lot but they should not just spam post anything that doesn't make any sense at all.
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As a non native english speaker, this happened to me a lot, fortunately bitcointalk has the feature to edit the post even after it is posted. Most of the time, I edit my post more than once. That being said, I think it's understandable if a non native english speaker make small mistake like grammatical error or choosing the wrong prefix, as long as people still understand the point I don't think its a big problem.
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In my opinion, I think it's normal to make mistakes. The reason is that human beings don't operate like robots. As long as what the person has written can be easily understood and if they are making good points, then it will be found, although most of those mistakes are not always repeated in every user's post. Those kinds of common mistakes are not a reason to dismiss someone as a hitposter. Shit posting is when one is talking off-topic or off-point repeatedly without taking correction.
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1. Use Grammarly or Grammar Checker App: Ehen you have problems with English language like grammatical problems then you can easily know about the errors of your sentences. Just use Gramarly or any other popular checker websites.
Like this one Grammarly.com which can be useful even with a free account. You will have more advanced features if you buy Premium or Business Grammarly accounts.

If you are learning, using a free account is good enough for basic grammar checking.

This Newbies - Read before posting and Welcome message tell all, reading and learning before posting.
legendary
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Not all forum members have their native language as English, so it is not possible that these people in trying to express themselves will not make some grammatical error. Even people who have it as their Language still make errors sometimes in writing and speaking. I agree with the focus being to make your post understandable not 100% grammatically correct. Try to communicate and express yourself so people understand you and the point you need to make, do not try to impress people only with your writing skills.

In addition, sometimes when checking for the use of an AI tool, grammatically correct text without a single mistake will look very suspicious. And the user can be accused of using a robot instead.
But, OP, I always thought that a person who is ready to be an example for users can teach something here on the forum. I would appreciate your advice on writing good posts and seeing some of your interesting and competent posts. Do not take it as criticism; you contradict yourself. I saw your other post written a little earlier.

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.
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Most of the non English users do mistakes but some are nigotiable and some are just trash as they don't contain any meaning.
As here many of us are Non English users (including me) we should learn about some basic ways to minimize grammatical problems or to make quality posts:

1. Use Grammarly or Grammar Checker App: Ehen you have problems with English language like grammatical problems then you can easily know about the errors of your sentences. Just use Gramarly or any other popular checker websites.

2. Use Google translator to find out meaning or spelling: Sometimes we face hard words that we don't know the meaning or we want to post in English but can't translate a word in English then just use Google translator to find out it. But never translate whole sentence and just copy-paste it because it's prohibited.

3. Learn about the topic before posting: To avoid making shit posts you must have proper realization about the topic which you want to create or make a discussion. When you have a little knowledge about the topic kindly avoid or try to gather some knowledge and then try to contribute but never make shitposts.

4. Receck your posts and use Preview Option: Anyone can have grammatical or spelling mistakes and it's normal so when we revise we may find out easily. Also we may see if images, links, quotes or any features working properly or not by this way.
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To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

You don't have to make posts that are grammatically correct, its enough to make posts that make some sense, especially in the public forums. But looking for any errors by reading again won't do any harm and it will be effective to identify the sentences that are not properly constructed.

Anyway, when someone suggests you post quality over quantity it never meant long text, it just means post something knowledgeable.
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Usually Mistakes arise from someone's ignorance or have never had experience about doing certain things even though they are equipped with complete features, users who want to develop in forums will try to make Mistakes as learning and experience. The preview feature serves to prevent minor mistakes when posting, some people consider this feature to be trivial and often ignore it. Of course Mistakes cannot be avoided due to the forgetful nature of humans, corrections from other users can be a motivation to prevent the same mistakes in the future.
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Post don't necessarily need to be 100% grammatically correct — as long as the thread is understandable, it's good enough.
Not all forum members have their native language as English, so it is not possible that these people in trying to express themselves will not make some grammatical error. Even people who have it as their Language still make errors sometimes in writing and speaking. I agree with the focus being to make your post understandable not 100% grammatically correct. Try to communicate and express yourself so people understand you and the point you need to make, do not try to impress people only with your writing skills.
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Post don't necessarily need to be 100% grammatically correct — as long as the thread is understandable, it's good enough. But if a certain user can't really make a thread that's at least mildly comprehensible, then there's a reason why we have Local sections.
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To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
Good advice OP. One might not be good at English grammar but we are expected to put effort and improve our writings. Using English grammar software like Grammarly and Whitesmoke online checkers might help correct some errors and some of these software are free online. We should also review our posts to make corrections. Natural English speakers should also be patient with us who are learning how to speak the language. It has not really been easy to become proficient.

This alone can't make a post appear to be a shitpost; punctuation errors and some forms of grammatical errors do not remove the main information that is being passed. There are a lot of posts I come across here where the OP is really not good with English, but when you read through those lines, you will have to understand what the person is saying. A shitpost is when the person doesn't know what they are saying and goes completely off-key or out of line. The post doesn't aim to share any positive contributions to the forum or its members.
A simple grammatical error can change the entire meaning of a sentence. And when readers don't understand some sentences, will be incoherence which will lead to misinformation and most people are not patient enough to read through the lines of some posts. Mistakes happen but we should try to limit it by putting more effort into our posts. But it because a problem when it becomes a common occurrence in our works.
sr. member
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To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

It's actually good to review and reread your post before posting knowing that it's going public. You already know that mistake is inevitable and that's why sometimes despite reviewing your post numerous times, you'll discover some error (s) after posting. You can see the area I outlined in your post with red color, it's a prove that reviewing your post will not make it entirely error free. I initially thought you did it deliberately and later realized that your post is about making a perfect post devoid of error and I don't think you'll do that deliberately. Is this a prove that you didn't reread your post before posting or a justification that mistake is inevitable? Lol Grin

It's normal to check your posts after typing and still discover mistakes either in spelling, repetition of word, punctuation usage or even the whole collocation as the case maybe. It is understandable sometime to the readers as long as it's minor. However, making it a habit is actually bad. An error might be discovered in my post too.
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You're a naive person, do you think all of native English never make any mistake in their post?

Grammatical errors are common occur, but as long as we as a reader can understand with the point they're trying to say, I don't think it's really a matter. A post with good point and no grammatical error is impressive, but what if the post don't have anything to say, only repeat a general information that everyone already know and no grammatical error? do you think it's a high quality post?

Introduction:
Bitcoin is a digital currency that can be used in different ways, both in buying and selling of goods through per-to-per transfer and also in investment which many users of bitcoin are interested. People invest in bitcoin because it flustrates in price either the bearish that people buy and in the bull that they sell. Bitcoin also trend in the eco-space that everyone who is good in the latest technological ideas in the world key into it. Therefore, I should not be exempted for joining the trend and start my journey. I am also aware of the risk that is involved but that will not be an excused to the journey. What's matter is the determination. The price of bitcoin is unpredictable but yet people guest it correctly. Bravo for those guys.
For the crypto space, some people prefer trading to investment while some prefer investment to trading which I might also fall unto and some are for mining.

I wanted to start my bitcoin investment journey but I look at it that the price is still high to start the investment and I am waiting for the price to go down to $20k to $25k or below. Is that a procrastination? If yes, when is the best time to start the journey? Now that the price is still high? Will bitcoin go down again? The way it stand, it looks like it would not go down again until the next halvining and the bull to come. Bitcoin price was good to invest last year which was $16k to $19k but I was not having cash to start the journey but now that I have small cash let me start the investment.
To What Extent Bitcoin Price Will go for the Bear Market
Bitcoin start the year 2023 with a good price and the price in in this year is much more better than last year 2022 and those who invested last year 2023 would not say that this year do does not favour them. And we have spent 7 month in this year and the price of bitcoin right now is $30,277 that is, the price is sliding down compare to last week. So where do you think the price of bitcoin will end for the bear market before this year will end?

To What Extent Bitcoin Price Will go for the Bull Market
As it is said, bitcoin price rised to $20+k from late last year after the bear market and in  this year the price rises to $31k, so what is your speculation on the price before the end of the year?
legendary
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Getting to preview your post write up before posting it cannot make you dictate your spelling error. I feel the preview button is more important when adding other tags (code, links, image etc) asides from just normal write up in order to get an actual glimpse of how your post will be when published.
Previewing your post before posting can allow you detect errors that you may have made while writing it. I usually will more easily see any typos when reading the preview of the post that when reading directly while posting.
It is also useful in double checking how forun tags will look before publishing the post.
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To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
I am a non english user. As my first languages are Punjabi, Urdu then English which i learnt in school. And i totally agreed with your point here. At start, and now in current situation too, sometimes i made mistakes. Like i wanted to say something in favor but i end up against it. Last time i mistakenly wrote in a post reply which i was corrected by another member to whom i thanks later.

The point is, we should check our english first and should not rush. I really like this gentle reminder (well it's at least a reminder to me). So, i will try my best. Actually for those who are not english users, should take help to verify your writing from Google translate. (I am not sure if that's also against forum rules). But AFAIK it's not. So we might clarify at least our statements from google translate. Like first write the post in english then translate it into your local language and see does it make sense to you if not the. Correct the grammer mistakes.

And try not to use too many tools because it will make your post looks like BOT written and it might get you tagged as plagiarized. So be careful with tools. Because in some cases they are bad.
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Nice and kindy advice and that's why the preview button exist. The forum makes it easier for people to preview  their works to have  a view of how the post looks Iike before posting them, so as to avoid some unnecessary  mistakes but I don't have to blame people because some of these users make this unnecessary mistakes by having autocoreect on their phones and most times the errors and mistakes aren't easily spotted.

Getting to preview your post write up before posting it cannot make you dictate your spelling error. I feel the preview button is more important when adding other tags (code, links, image etc) asides from just normal write up in order to get an actual glimpse of how your post will be when published.
The more reason and cause of the spelling errors should be the autocorrect function enabled in phones and also when users are typing too fast than the little the brain can give out at a time can also cause it.
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So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction.

This alone can't make a post appear to be a shitpost; punctuation errors and some forms of grammatical errors do not remove the main information that is being passed. There are a lot of posts I come across here where the OP is really not good with English, but when you read through those lines, you will have to understand what the person is saying. A shitpost is when the person doesn't know what they are saying and goes completely off-key or out of line. The post doesn't aim to share any positive contributions to the forum or its members.
 
Reading through posts is nice, and previewing is especially helpful when there is a warning regarding someone who just posted a comment. Especially when you are about to give a recommendation or correction about something, the recent comment might have said a similar thing to what your own comment might appear to look like spam.
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