[DOTA 2] ESL One Los Angeles 2020 MAJOR [GAMBLING DISCUSSION]

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 19, 2020, 05:33:00 PM

Congratulation for Vitrus Pro (VP) can beat OG with score 3-2.

The match was really tense and tight but they can still beat OG on the Grand Final of ESL One LA. Let's see if they can do this again on the TI, see u guys around "May" went the announcement of TI will be held or not from "Valve" due to the pandemic still going until now.

Flawless run for Virtus Pro in this tournament, they got no loss (not match) for the entire tournament. I really admire the team, their chemistry is good.
Hoping to see Virtus Pro will remain their line up in upcoming tournaments. I am happy for RESOLUTION this time, this guy is a great core player especially before, I hope Virtus Pro is the right team for him and they will continue to strive harder.

I will lock this thread now, thanks to all! Onto the next tournament!

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Congratulation for Vitrus Pro (VP) can beat OG with score 3-2.

The match was really tense and tight but they can still beat OG on the Grand Final of ESL One LA. Let's see if they can do this again on the TI, see u guys around "May" went the announcement of TI will be held or not from "Valve" due to the pandemic still going until now.

From the past TI, they will announcement about Battlepas & TI around weeks 2 of May.

Source: https://afkgaming.com/articles/dota2/News/3723-The-2020-Battlepass-Set-to-Launch-Next-Week?

PS. Some memes about VP.

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Championship game now:
OG vs VP.
I'll go for game winner Virtus Pro. But I am also looking forward to bet on OG for +1.5 for map handicap still worried since the odds it's kinda not worth it.
Looking for some handicap bets here, like total games over/under.
Anyway, for Virtus Pro, they kinda unstoppable now, especially how they made a flawless 2-0 victory against OG at upper bracket lately.
Who will be your pick for the champion guys?

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 17, 2020, 11:19:14 AM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on April 17, 2020, 11:03:55 AM

Nigma is also eliminated and what I am observing is that most of the low tier teams are now showing their skills and I think this tournament is done online is the reason why what do you think guys?

Imo the biggest reason why some teams are not giving their best is because it's a non dpc event so there's not much to compete for other than the money.

Yeah, I agree. It is a coincidence since I've been communicating with my friends this afternoon about this and they also said that it is not a DPC tournament so teams are focussing on other upcoming tournaments like ONE Esports in Singapore. My friends are planning to watch some games but I am scared since the pandemic might still be a problem at that time.

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Quote from: JanpriX on April 18, 2020, 01:23:03 AM

That game 2 of OG vs Team Secret was effing insane. Core Chen delighted me in many ways. I didn't play any Dota 2 game in the past 4 or 5 months but I'm still aware of its competitive scene, to say the least and that Chen pick in a core role made me giggle the whole match. What happened there was summarized in a very good way in this Tweet^[1].

It really was!

The strategy that they made was 4 supports/utilities and depended only on their carry. I didn't expect that 33 was this really good at playing Chen. With his past teams, he didn't play this much.

Maybe being peers with n0tail and Ceb actually helped him to put the potential that he has. I'm aware that he's just a sub on this tournament but he's really good and worth of commends.

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Quote from: JanpriX on April 18, 2020, 01:23:03 AM

Do you have any bets on the upcoming games? Would you mind posting it and I might tail it also. Tongue

Try watch to this thread, he a tipster https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/esports-predictions-and-tips-dota-2-csgo-lol-5193560

Every day he shares free tips from esports like CSGO / Dota2, you can see his result on the spreadsheet.

Update about Dota2.

The interesting part is, the valve makes an update patch 7.26 in the middle of the tournament not after went the match OG Vs Team Secret is finish ~LOL.

A classic update from valve/dota2 went OG have insane gameplay they will nerf the heroes, but the interesting patch for this patch update is:

Quote from: dota2

- This release is focused only on the following systemic changes. Once these changes settle a bit, there will be follow up hero and item specific adjustments.
- Attributes no longer provide Magic Resistance, Spell Amplification and Movement Speed for Strength, Intelligence and Agility respectively.
- Gold bounties reduced by 10% (affects buildings, lane creeps, neutrals and heroes)
- Kill streak gold is reduced by 50%

Source : https://www.dota2.com/patches/

The patch was nerfed for support hero, probably because chen core and less gold we can get if too much dominating the game ~LOL

What do you think, did puppey butthurt xD?

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on April 17, 2020, 09:12:05 PM

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Playoffs Bracket update

This playoff is really exciting, nice run for OG, flawless victory against the top seeder of Group B (Team Secret).
Again, in the upper bracket, Virtus Pro vs OG again, I think it's time for OG to get some revenge in Virtus Pro, the more OG in their original roster, the more they are stronger and serious.

Btw, props also in the lower bracket, Chicken Fighters for getting a win against Team Nigma, I don't believe anymore in Team Nigma's saying (Upper bracket is for B*tches Grin

). I am expected Team Nigma will take the win, although I bet on Chicken Fighters only for +1.5 map handicap.
While Alliance and Vikin.gg, also well-played to Alliance, they had a bad drafts against Vikin.gg.

That game 2 of OG vs Team Secret was effing insane. Core Chen delighted me in many ways. I didn't play any Dota 2 game in the past 4 or 5 months but I'm still aware of its competitive scene, to say the least and that Chen pick in a core role made me giggle the whole match. What happened there was summarized in a very good way in this Tweet^[1].

Do you have any bets on the upcoming games? Would you mind posting it and I might tail it also. Tongue

^[1]https://twitter.com/NahazDota/status/1251241131762999303

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Playoffs Bracket update

This playoff is really exciting, nice run for OG, flawless victory against the top seeder of Group B (Team Secret).
Again, in the upper bracket, Virtus Pro vs OG again, I think it's time for OG to get some revenge in Virtus Pro, the more OG in their original roster, the more they are stronger and serious.

Btw, props also in the lower bracket, Chicken Fighters for getting a win against Team Nigma, I don't believe anymore in Team Nigma's saying (Upper bracket is for B*tches Grin

). I am expected Team Nigma will take the win, although I bet on Chicken Fighters only for +1.5 map handicap.
While Alliance and Vikin.gg, also well-played to Alliance, they had a bad drafts against Vikin.gg.

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What insane comeback gameplay from OG.

40K Gold lead from Team Secret but still lose from OG with Gyrocopter and 3 rapiers, most of the instance match just like TI ~LOL. Without godson they still insane, if godson there more like can't believe what will happen Grin

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This is the reason why everyone likes to see match from OG, they always can comeback with an impossible situation. Like me, not a fans from OG but always watching their match because of the insane moment from them.

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Crazy 3rd game with the Rapier being passed around. Viking's draft looks good on paper since they had two cores that could kite around during fights but what an execution by Alliance to take objectives early unfortunately Viking was able to hold for quite a while until Alliance's cores couldn't keep up with the farm and fell off.

Quote from: turkandjaydee on April 17, 2020, 09:16:12 AM

Today's attention is for the match between Team Secret and OG. I have no idea who will win so betting on one of these teams with a +1.5 handicap is the best choice.

The handicap is close to even for OG but I think it's going to be another 2-0 for Secret unless they pick something unusual with their drafts.

Quote from: FlightyPouch on April 17, 2020, 11:03:55 AM

Nigma is also eliminated and what I am observing is that most of the low tier teams are now showing their skills and I think this tournament is done online is the reason why what do you think guys?

Imo the biggest reason why some teams are not giving their best is because it's a non dpc event so there's not much to compete for other than the money.

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Quote from: turkandjaydee on April 17, 2020, 09:16:12 AM

Quote from: Janation on April 17, 2020, 05:06:41 AM

I think Chicken Fighters would be taking their exit now in this tournament as we are seeing a LB Nigma.

Nigma just lost so we won't see the Nigma's lower bracket beast mode again Grin

. And surprisingly their sniper support strategy just got REKT Grin

But sadly we won't see the dramatic match between Team Secret (Matu) vs Nigma this time.

They already fought in WePlay and I think there is no drama in these players as we see them hugging and talking in that tournament. Viking.gg just eliminated Alliance and it is really sad since they also have that advantage when they stole the rapier to AM. I think this is not their win so still, GG to them. Nigma is also eliminated and what I am observing is that most of the low tier teams are now showing their skills and I think this tournament is done online is the reason why what do you think guys?

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Quote from: Janation on April 17, 2020, 05:06:41 AM

I think Chicken Fighters would be taking their exit now in this tournament as we are seeing a LB Nigma.

Nigma just lost so we won't see the Nigma's lower bracket beast mode again Grin

. And surprisingly their sniper support strategy just got REKT Grin

But sadly we won't see the dramatic match between Team Secret (Matu) vs Nigma this time.

Today's attention is for the match between Team Secret and OG. I have no idea who will win so betting on one of these teams with a +1.5 handicap is the best choice.

Quote from: mu_enrico on April 17, 2020, 08:55:54 AM

Anyone currently watches Alliance vs. Vikin.gg 2nd round? I think it will be a close match. Let's watch Zeus vs Brood Grin

For those of you who just recently join the stream. In the 1st round, S4 sama picked Centaur Grin

but their draft is good at the early-mid game, so they won easily.

It looks like Alliance will lose this 2nd game. Vikin.gg's heroes are more late-game heroes than Alliance's heroes but they (Vikin.gg) have dominated the game even since the mid-game.

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Anyone currently watches Alliance vs. Vikin.gg 2nd round? I think it will be a close match. Let's watch Zeus vs Brood Grin

For those of you who just recently join the stream. In the 1st round, S4 sama picked Centaur Grin

but their draft is good at the early-mid game, so they won easily.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on April 16, 2020, 06:21:04 PM

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on April 16, 2020, 08:38:28 AM

Quote from: turkandjaydee on April 15, 2020, 02:29:39 PM

By the way, Team Secret have also secured their position in Playoffs. I'm looking forward to seeing a big match in the upper bracket

Also excited how Team Secret will perform after their loss in the last tournament they joined which is the WePlay where they lose against Nigma. VP is also a team to look out for, the as Chicken Fighters and Viking.gg. A bit disappointed with the performance of Nigma, Alliance, B8 and Cyber Legacy. I thought they could do better.

I honestly think they'll advance easily in the upper bracket and likely to win the tournament. Alliance's bad results was already expected imo since they've lost two of their best players and immediately look for other players to fill them in just for the tournament.

Team Secret is one of the teams in the upper bracket so the possibility of them winning increased. They are joined by Team Spirit, OG, and VP. Team Secret will be facing OG in their first match in the upper bracket so this will be interesting since the same as VP, Team secret did not drop one match in their group, Group B. As VP will face Team Spirit that also showed a good run. The playoffs board is already completed and we will see if Team Nigma is still the team that dominates the lower bracket. Will they be able to have that unstoppable run again? We will see as their first match is against Chicken fighters lead by Sonneiko.

Game 1 just finished, Nigma against Chicken Fighters.

CF did a good fight holding the game to a long time but they can't really repel the forces of Nigma. I think the MVP here would be Mind Control since he did a lot of good plays, he is left out to level quickly bot against Axe which is just pulling creeps in the 2nd tier tower. I think Chicken Fighters would be taking their exit now in this tournament as we are seeing a LB Nigma.

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 16, 2020, 09:37:44 AM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on April 16, 2020, 08:38:28 AM

Quote from: turkandjaydee on April 15, 2020, 02:29:39 PM

By the way, Team Secret have also secured their position in Playoffs. I'm looking forward to seeing a big match in the upper bracket

Also excited how Team Secret will perform after their loss in the last tournament they joined which is the WePlay where they lose against Nigma. VP is also a team to look out for, the as Chicken Fighters and Viking.gg. A bit disappointed with the performance of Nigma, Alliance, B8 and Cyber Legacy. I thought they could do better.

I honestly think they'll advance easily in the upper bracket and likely to win the tournament. Alliance's bad results was already expected imo since they've lost two of their best players and immediately look for other players to fill them in just for the tournament.

Team Secret is one of the teams in the upper bracket so the possibility of them winning increased. They are joined by Team Spirit, OG, and VP. Team Secret will be facing OG in their first match in the upper bracket so this will be interesting since the same as VP, Team secret did not drop one match in their group, Group B. As VP will face Team Spirit that also showed a good run. The playoffs board is already completed and we will see if Team Nigma is still the team that dominates the lower bracket. Will they be able to have that unstoppable run again? We will see as their first match is against Chicken fighters lead by Sonneiko.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on April 16, 2020, 08:38:28 AM

A bit disappointed with the performance of Nigma, Alliance, B8 and Cyber Legacy. I thought they could do better.

This is not the time to be disappointed yet, at least Nigma and Alliance still have a chance to go to the Playoffs where there will be an elimination match and all of the teams will do their best.

Quote from: ralle14 on April 16, 2020, 09:37:44 AM

That online tournament hosted by WePlay was more of a showmatch or scrims so that loss against Team Nigma probably wouldn't affect them.

True. Players shouldn't have done that but it's possible that some teams were just practicing their new strat or new draft in that tournament.

Quote from: ralle14 on April 16, 2020, 09:37:44 AM

Alliance's bad results was already expected imo since they've lost two of their best players and immediately look for other players to fill them in just for the tournament.

There must be a special reason behind this roster change because they themselves surely know that this is a decision that should not be made at a time like this.
But its only Xibber who is just a standin right?

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on April 16, 2020, 08:38:28 AM

Quote from: turkandjaydee on April 15, 2020, 02:29:39 PM

By the way, Team Secret have also secured their position in Playoffs. I'm looking forward to seeing a big match in the upper bracket

Also excited how Team Secret will perform after their loss in the last tournament they joined which is the WePlay where they lose against Nigma. VP is also a team to look out for, the as Chicken Fighters and Viking.gg. A bit disappointed with the performance of Nigma, Alliance, B8 and Cyber Legacy. I thought they could do better.

That online tournament hosted by WePlay was more of a showmatch or scrims so that loss against Team Nigma probably wouldn't affect them. I honestly think they'll advance easily in the upper bracket and likely to win the tournament. Alliance's bad results was already expected imo since they've lost two of their best players and immediately look for other players to fill them in just for the tournament.

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Quote from: turkandjaydee on April 15, 2020, 02:29:39 PM

By the way, Team Secret have also secured their position in Playoffs. I'm looking forward to seeing a big match in the upper bracket

Also excited how Team Secret will perform after their loss in the last tournament they joined which is the WePlay where they lose against Nigma. VP is also a team to look out for, the as Chicken Fighters and Viking.gg. A bit disappointed with the performance of Nigma, Alliance, B8 and Cyber Legacy. I thought they could do better.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on April 15, 2020, 07:36:21 AM

Quote from: Janation on April 15, 2020, 06:05:36 AM

OG did great too but VP did better.

This is just great since VP is showing they are also a Tier 1 team. The past days, VP faced Nigma and they also destroyed Nigma. That just proves how VP is determined to win this tournament. I might actually be wrong, VP might win this tournament but since we can't really say that they will not choke in the finals, the possibility is still there.

Rainbow after the rain. Their original roster last season which is destroyed after the The International 2019, which RAMZES joined EG.
For me, this is really good for VP, especially if they will able to keep their plans for future tournaments, even before they are already a beast team in Europe & CIS. This could be a big slap for Ramzes.

I think RAMZESS should be proud and this is not an insult to him.

When pro players leave teams like this since he left VP in good terms, they are wanting to improve themselves and usually, they thought it is good for the team as roster shuffles are usually talked by the team and the company itself. I think this is not a slap rather he is proud of what the team achieved right now. By the way, they won online in the NA division so I don't think he is really upset. If there would be one in the loss here, that would be VP since they lost RAMZESS.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on April 15, 2020, 07:36:21 AM

Rainbow after the rain. Their original roster last season which is destroyed after the The International 2019, which RAMZES joined EG.
For me, this is really good for VP, especially if they will able to keep their plans for future tournaments, even before they are already a beast team in Europe & CIS. This could be a big slap for Ramzes.

Well, they need to do something regarding their TI results from time to time. They're always unable to give a good performance at TI and the pressure is really big for them.

So roster change is a common way for Dota 2 teams to keep from getting stuck in the same performance. Even there are many teams that also change their roster back then.
And the result can be better, but it also can be worse. But at least they're not doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

I believe the roster change from VP before was the best way for both Ramzes and VP.

By the way, Team Secret have also secured their position in Playoffs. I'm looking forward to seeing a big match in the upper bracket

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