[DOTA 2] ESL One Los Angeles 2020 MAJOR [GAMBLING DISCUSSION] - page 8.

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Quote from: livingfree on February 10, 2020, 03:21:52 PM

Quote from: DoublerHunter on February 10, 2020, 12:04:20 PM

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Majors does have an allocation of $1M most of the time while the minors has an allocation of $300,000 for the prize pool.

While the International which is the main tournament of Dota 2, depends on the sales that Valve dedicates for the prize pool and base on its history, every year is surpassing the last year's prize pool.

damn thats alot of cash out there for just a video game only , this prizes was more or a bit closer to the sports and other real life events .

i thought esports arent popular enough ? becauase look at them , many gambling sites still doesnt support them . they dont support dota 2 betting . are they under estimating these kind of games/betting ? . but its not surprising that the prize is big because the cosmetics that they sell were also expensive .

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on February 11, 2020, 02:38:49 AM

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This also happens to Adroit when facing TNC. I also feel bad for them.

News : https://m.vpgame.com/news/article/310318

This is something that makes player feel more disappointed than just losing fairly.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on February 11, 2020, 02:38:49 AM

P.S. This tragedy also happened to Team Cignal Ultra before against TNC.Predator and I think before, Team Cgnal Ultra also already dominates the game before the tragedy happened. I think, some payback, lol. But remember, there are rules about this, so it's okay to resume the game after some minutes given.
Link of the screenshot/replay in youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbHg2eQ0-3I

That sucks.

I have never seen what happens to these competitive matches if such a signal disconnection occurs. Ideally, the match should be replayed or in effect cancelled, like a washed-out game of football.
Just getting finished at the workplace and will go back to see if i can catch a few games on Dota TV. Are you going to update the OP image with the teams?

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Very sad to hear on the recent match in SEA Qualifiers for ESL One Los Angeles 2020 Major;
Lowkey vs Cignal Ultra - Match here: https://www.trackdota.com/matches/5237142517

Suddenly, team Lowkey got an internet connection problem, and they are 10k gold ahead advantage in 28 minutes mark of the game.
Team Cignal Ultra wait for them to reconnect but after some given minutes, the game resumed.
It's really sad for team Lowkey, they lost because of some technical issues like internet connection in the Philippines.

P.S. This tragedy also happened to Team Cignal Ultra before against TNC.Predator and I think before, Team Cgnal Ultra also already dominates the game before the tragedy happened. I think, some payback, lol. But remember, there are rules about this, so it's okay to resume the game after some minutes given.
Link of the screenshot/replay in youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbHg2eQ0-3I

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Quote from: boltz on February 10, 2020, 04:09:16 PM

After what I have saw in Berlin recently and International last year I think Secret and OG have the best chances to win at LA 2020 Major. I also like EG with Ramsez666 integrated as he provides a lot of extra utility and diversity and EG kinda needed that and I'm glad he went up to a better team than VP who is having hard times in DOTA. Still my favorite Dota team is still SECRET and I like Nisha a lot , he's the best dps in the league in my opinion.

Secret is stronger now with the addition of Matumbaman. I'm not saying that they were weaker before with MidOne but I think the impact is better in Secret while in OG, since we know that they were already a strong team with the past roster.

But with the addition of Sumail and MidOne, I think they really made it well with the connection. So, the change of roster for both teams resulted into a good chemistry so they benefited from these changes.

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Also, Notail and Ceb are great analysts and drafters. They can complete everything needed by great players. I think they are the most contributors to OG for winning TI 2 times since we know that the drafting phase and gameplay strategy are very important in a Dota 2 match.

Great players with a trashy draft will lead to miserable plays. I admire Notail's draft and decision making during the game, I mean he is a huge play maker, which I think made their synergy stronger in the past TI's.

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I would agree for "Sumail" but for "MidOne" he can't really handle the lane against "Sumail" at TI9.

It doesn't matter which is which, having them both play together in a team brings bigger potential to the team. Midone played well as POS3. However, I find Saksa a little bit off position in some clash compared how Jerax pokes in and out during clash on team fights. But still a great team.

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After what I have saw in Berlin recently and International last year I think Secret and OG have the best chances to win at LA 2020 Major. I also like EG with Ramsez666 integrated as he provides a lot of extra utility and diversity and EG kinda needed that and I'm glad he went up to a better team than VP who is having hard times in DOTA. Still my favorite Dota team is still SECRET and I like Nisha a lot , he's the best dps in the league in my opinion.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on February 10, 2020, 12:04:20 PM

Look at that prize pool! eSports really is becoming a thing. I guess this set-up is not bad. Just for anyone to know, the reason why the tournament was created is to advertise and market the game. So the players must at least experience a glimpse of tournaments and their emotions must be taken to the game so DOTA will make it to the top. Even the experience playing with the top players is enough to satisfy the players and motivate them to their best, as well. Nevertheless, I hope LOL would also increase its prize pool as high as DOTA. Thank you for knowing us here about this tournament.

Majors does have an allocation of $1M most of the time while the minors has an allocation of $300,000 for the prize pool.

While the International which is the main tournament of Dota 2, depends on the sales that Valve dedicates for the prize pool and base on its history, every year is surpassing the last year's prize pool.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on February 09, 2020, 06:38:35 PM

I love this tournament because of no Direct Invite, all will go to qualifiers and be a champion on a minor.
Qualifiers for every regions already started with lot of new teams popping. Some high tier teams just falling with new team in qualifiers.

This is what im looking for which there would be no direct invites because it is somewhat boring if we do see common teams like Liquid,VP,EG,OG etc.
Best to look for those newly build up teams which do have veteran players transferred from older teams.Cant wait to see for qualifiers on this one.

Quote from: DoublerHunter on February 10, 2020, 12:04:20 PM

Look at that prize pool! eSports really is becoming a thing. I guess this set-up is not bad. Just for anyone to know, the reason why the tournament was created is to advertise and market the game. So the players must at least experience a glimpse of tournaments and their emotions must be taken to the game so DOTA will make it to the top. Even the experience playing with the top players is enough to satisfy the players and motivate them to their best, as well. Nevertheless, I hope LOL would also increase its prize pool as high as DOTA. Thank you for knowing us here about this tournament.

It might sound harsh but LOL wont able to reach up Dota2 prizepool in the history of e-sports.

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Look at that prize pool! eSports really is becoming a thing. I guess this set-up is not bad. Just for anyone to know, the reason why the tournament was created is to advertise and market the game. So the players must at least experience a glimpse of tournaments and their emotions must be taken to the game so DOTA will make it to the top. Even the experience playing with the top players is enough to satisfy the players and motivate them to their best, as well. Nevertheless, I hope LOL would also increase its prize pool as high as DOTA. Thank you for knowing us here about this tournament.

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However, I love this kind of tournament without doing a direct invite for some team. Make more team have a chance to get the slot not just a popular team, one of example the first OG Match went they meet a Herald, Guardian & Legend team. That's team can make the first blood against "MidOne" and we have good memes because of that LOL~.

Quote from: turkandjaydee on February 10, 2020, 02:28:23 AM

The thing is Sumail and Midone are one of the best players in the world. Especially Sumail has been practicing playing pos 1 since a few months ago.

I would agree for "Sumail" but for "MidOne" he can't really handle the lane against "Sumail" at TI9.

OG taking this player was really a mistake because Sumail & MidOne was really preferred playing at Mid, I know both of them can play their role must play at OG team. But to be honest since topson still on the team, feel like take this 2 player was not really suitable for the role both of them.

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Kudos to OP for putting this tournament and DotA Esports into the eyes of the forum users. Can't believe that there are a lot of people who are involved in Esports and are also lurkers here at the forum.

Based on the performance that I saw yesterday, I'd root for Team Secret and OG. No explanation needed for Team Secret as they won the last major that they attended. As for OG, I realy like the members of its newly formed team. The only concern that I have for them is how well they will mesh in the later part of the tournament.

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Quote from: passwordnow on February 09, 2020, 11:03:03 PM

I thought that they will struggle with this first ever major qualifier that they join.

The thing is Sumail and Midone are one of the best players in the world. Especially Sumail has been practicing playing pos 1 since a few months ago.

Also, Notail and Ceb are great analysts and drafters. They can complete everything needed by great players. I think they are the most contributors to OG for winning TI 2 times since we know that the drafting phase and gameplay strategy are very important in a Dota 2 match.

But I'm wondering what will happen if Ana becomes active again in the team. Whether Sumail will leave the team or there will be a role change.

Quote from: GreatArkansas on February 10, 2020, 02:19:16 AM

Top 10 anime betrayal, eh? Cheesy

Plus its also about Sumail leaving EG and joining OG actually Grin

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Good to see some unpredictable matches, yet I am still not trying to bet on some qualifiers match, kinda scary af!

I still make a bet on the qualifier but not the first matches. There is momentum in the qualification stage which we can sometimes rely on.

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Quote from: turkandjaydee on February 09, 2020, 08:32:21 PM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on February 09, 2020, 06:38:35 PM

I love this tournament because of no Direct Invite, all will go to qualifiers and be a champion on a minor.
Qualifiers for every regions already started with lot of new teams popping. Some high tier teams just falling with new team in qualifiers.

(...)
Some team/people give positive feedbacks but there are some who also give negative feedback. But if I remember correctly, there are more positive feedbacks than negative feedbacks.

Yeah, it's totally good for everyone. And that will also give some teams a chance, especially those non-pro players or just started to the tournament, it's good to help your performance, fighting on some pro/tier teams, what an experience of that. As I recalled, on some match of OG, first game of MidOne on OG was bloody, he got first blood by Guardian rank Cheesy

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Quote from: turkandjaydee on February 09, 2020, 08:32:21 PM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on February 09, 2020, 06:38:35 PM

Bring it on, what team you rooting for?

Also, seeing Team Secret beating Nigma and OG beating EG is an emotional pleasure (if you know what I mean Grin

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Top 10 anime betrayal, eh? Cheesy

Good to see some unpredictable matches, yet I am still not trying to bet on some qualifiers match, kinda scary af!

Quote from: passwordnow on February 09, 2020, 09:04:24 PM

The closed qualifier now for each region is intense and mostly on the Europe qualifiers. The teams that are aiming to get to the top 3 are most tier 1 teams so I think before looking to the majors, let's look to the qualifiers and the Starladder minor.
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Yep, exactly, high tier teams are mostly on Europe, especially The International champions, and OG + OG.Seed combination, kinda scary teams and Team Secret too, the recent major champion.

Quote from: amishmanish on February 10, 2020, 12:35:15 AM

I was asking around for something like this with betting on online games. It'd be a good side distraction to follow the DoTA championships and have the option to bet with crypto. The fascination for me in esports is mainly due to the wide difference it has compared to countries like India etc.
The culture of Esports having the potential to be a career opportunity is something that doesn't find much resonance in my society even though I know it is something that a lot of people would love to do. Following the journeys of the "stars" of these esports is as fascinating as the game itself.

Just consider eSports as Sports, we are now in 2020, as we can see, eSports are hell yeah evolving. Look at now, large prize pools.
And just recently in Southeast Asian Games, some eSports games had a gold medal. In terms of career opportunity, you can still have them, I am excited how eSports will grow in the upcoming years.

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I was asking around for something like this with betting on online games. It'd be a good side distraction to follow the DoTA championships and have the option to bet with crypto. The fascination for me in esports is mainly due to the wide difference it has compared to countries like India etc.
The culture of Esports having the potential to be a career opportunity is something that doesn't find much resonance in my society even though I know it is something that a lot of people would love to do. Following the journeys of the "stars" of these esports is as fascinating as the game itself.

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Quote from: Ailmand on February 09, 2020, 10:41:12 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on February 09, 2020, 09:04:24 PM

The closed qualifier now for each region is intense and mostly on the Europe qualifiers. The teams that are aiming to get to the top 3 are most tier 1 teams so I think before looking to the majors, let's look to the qualifiers and the Starladder minor.
But I think I really like OG now, obviously, the past roster is the best and their chemistry as a team is incomparable to the current but rooting for them to this major.

I really like the new OG roster having mid-one, sumail and saksa on the team. I have watched one of their fight against the alliance. I would say their new team has a lot to work on in terms of synergy since they are palying with a new set of team. Anna an jerax will surely be missed with all the signature plays they have made in previous TI's and majors. Still rooting for this team.

I thought that they will struggle with this first ever major qualifier that they join. But look at the standing, they are usual the favorites of this region now. On the group B, they are at the top without any loss.
And how I wish that they will be able to maintain the standings up to the end of this quals. I can't wait for the playoffs to come in and it's lovely to watch all the regions out there.

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Quote from: passwordnow on February 09, 2020, 09:04:24 PM

The closed qualifier now for each region is intense and mostly on the Europe qualifiers. The teams that are aiming to get to the top 3 are most tier 1 teams so I think before looking to the majors, let's look to the qualifiers and the Starladder minor.
But I think I really like OG now, obviously, the past roster is the best and their chemistry as a team is incomparable to the current but rooting for them to this major.

I really like the new OG roster having mid-one, sumail and saksa on the team. I have watched one of their fight against the alliance. I would say their new team has a lot to work on in terms of synergy since they are palying with a new set of team. Anna an jerax will surely be missed with all the signature plays they have made in previous TI's and majors. Still rooting for this team.

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The closed qualifier now for each region is intense and mostly on the Europe qualifiers. The teams that are aiming to get to the top 3 are most tier 1 teams so I think before looking to the majors, let's look to the qualifiers and the Starladder minor.
But I think I really like OG now, obviously, the past roster is the best and their chemistry as a team is incomparable to the current but rooting for them to this major.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on February 09, 2020, 06:38:35 PM

I love this tournament because of no Direct Invite, all will go to qualifiers and be a champion on a minor.
Qualifiers for every regions already started with lot of new teams popping. Some high tier teams just falling with new team in qualifiers.

This qualification method has been tried in one of the previous major and there was an interview to take some feedbacks about this method. Some team/people give positive feedbacks but there are some who also give negative feedback. But if I remember correctly, there are more positive feedbacks than negative feedbacks.

Quote from: GreatArkansas on February 09, 2020, 06:38:35 PM

Bring it on, what team you rooting for?

I just watched some of the EU Qualifier matches yesterday. So I think, Team Secret and OG are the strongest candidates here (even for the main tournament). And they will definitely qualified for the main tournament.

Also, seeing Team Secret beating Nigma and OG beating EG is an emotional pleasure (if you know what I mean Grin

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ESL One Los Angeles 2020 is the third major for 2019 - 2020 of Dota Pro Circuit season by Valve.

Location: United States Los Angeles
Venue: Shrine Auditorium
Dates: ~~Mar 15 - 22, 2020~~ POSTPONED
Teams: 16
Format: Group Stage, GSL Format, Playoffs
Double Elimination
Prize pool: $1,000,000 USD and 15,000 Pro Circuit Points.
I love this tournament because of no Direct Invite, all will go to qualifiers and be a champion on a minor.
Qualifiers for every regions already started with lot of new teams popping. Some high tier teams just falling with new team in qualifiers.

Bring it on, what team you rooting for?

Sportsbook available:
A. https://sportsbet.io/sports/dota-2/matches/
B. https://stake.com/sports/dota-2/featured

For more info for the tournament visit:
a. https://www.esl-one.com/dota2/los-angeles/qualifier/
b. https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_One/Los_Angeles/2020

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