[DOTA 2] ESL One Los Angeles 2020 MAJOR [GAMBLING DISCUSSION] - page 4.

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Quote from: Janation on April 07, 2020, 06:56:13 AM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on April 07, 2020, 02:26:53 AM

It's kinda unbelievable to me that Team Nigma and Team Liquid are almost on the bottom of this group stage. Well, there is still a chance to bounce back.

I am not really expecting from Team Liquid besides their coach, Blitz, in terms of Team Nigma, I think they can still get up after that loss.

Also, if you are a longtime Dota 2 fan, I know you know the face of Dota 2 is in the past. I don't know if he is still the face of Dota 2 but he is in team B8 right now and having a bad time in their first game. Right now, I have my eyes on VP which also had a great first game. It is nostalgic since some of the players were in the same team that we loved in the past, Na'Vi like Funn1k and Sonneiko playing for other teams while Dendi is in B8.

I just checked the teams and I am surprised that most of the past teammates of Dendi are playing in this tournament. Including Kuroky and Puppey, we also have Funn1k and Sonneiko here, that is just amazing. I am not a fan of NaVi since I am a bit of a Chinese team in the past since they are the ones dominating the pro stage in that era.

Quote from: sunsilk on April 07, 2020, 08:58:42 AM

The attitude of Team Nigma, if you have been following them even before they always get into the lower bracket. I don't know if that's sort of strategy to them or they are just adding intense so it's more challenging for them to win when they reach the Semi Finals.

I think that is a strategy or maybe they are trying something else. I think it is a bit of the Path of least resistance but I think they have a strategy in mind. It is Kuroky so we don't really need to be worried about it. I think people would also look at Team Navi right now, they have a good pos 4 that might lead to their good run this tournament. Not surprised with Team Secret though but VP is just amazing too.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on April 06, 2020, 01:45:02 PM

Bad news is that Topson is not playing, good news is that Sumail is getting back to middle lane. Can't wait to study the movement on the map with Sumail on mid.

It would be a good option if they would let Sumail to take the mid lane and we know that this guy is one of the best mid laner of this game.So it isnt a bad decision for them to take when it comes to Pos 2 matters.

Quote from: sunsilk on April 07, 2020, 08:58:42 AM

The attitude of Team Nigma, if you have been following them even before they always get into the lower bracket. I don't know if that's sort of strategy to them or they are just adding intense so it's more challenging for them to win when they reach the Semi Finals.

This is a classic liquid strategy or just pure coincidence? We have seen on how they do perform specially on TI's .They do let themselves dropped on lower bracket and goes all the way on the final
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Quote from: Janation on April 07, 2020, 06:56:13 AM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on April 07, 2020, 02:26:53 AM

It's kinda unbelievable to me that Team Nigma and Team Liquid are almost on the bottom of this group stage. Well, there is still a chance to bounce back.

I am not really expecting from Team Liquid besides their coach, Blitz, in terms of Team Nigma, I think they can still get up after that loss.

Also, if you are a longtime Dota 2 fan, I know you know the face of Dota 2 is in the past. I don't know if he is still the face of Dota 2 but he is in team B8 right now and having a bad time in their first game. Right now, I have my eyes on VP which also had a great first game. It is nostalgic since some of the players were in the same team that we loved in the past, Na'Vi like Funn1k and Sonneiko playing for other teams while Dendi is in B8.

I'm not saying that Blitz isn't a good addition to team Liquid as their coach but they can do something better. They were even better when they were still with Loda as their coach on Alliance.

The attitude of Team Nigma, if you have been following them even before they always get into the lower bracket. I don't know if that's sort of strategy to them or they are just adding intense so it's more challenging for them to win when they reach the Semi Finals.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on April 07, 2020, 02:26:53 AM

It's kinda unbelievable to me that Team Nigma and Team Liquid are almost on the bottom of this group stage. Well, there is still a chance to bounce back.

I am not really expecting from Team Liquid besides their coach, Blitz, in terms of Team Nigma, I think they can still get up after that loss.

Also, if you are a longtime Dota 2 fan, I know you know the face of Dota 2 is in the past. I don't know if he is still the face of Dota 2 but he is in team B8 right now and having a bad time in their first game. Right now, I have my eyes on VP which also had a great first game. It is nostalgic since some of the players were in the same team that we loved in the past, Na'Vi like Funn1k and Sonneiko playing for other teams while Dendi is in B8.

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Current scores on the EUROPE & CIS Region for this Online tournament of ESL ONE.
Team OG is leading the Group A while Team Secret on Group B.
This is kinda exciting since, a lot of teams will compete since the ESL management combined the region of Europe and CIS.
It's kinda unbelievable to me that Team Nigma and Team Liquid are almost on the bottom of this group stage. Well, there is still a chance to bounce back.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 05, 2020, 04:09:40 AM

Quote from: Janation on April 05, 2020, 02:32:39 AM

Yeah, my bad.

But the whole major will be done online so I don't think it is the matter of going across the country but because of the internet connection they have. That is the reason why Topson and Midone can't join the lineup.

Went every team playing an online tournament, most of them will be playing at their own Bootcamp.

Wouldn't be it so comfortable playing at your own PC? coz I find it too comfy and it is a confidence gainer as a matter of fact. The only problem is the internet connection stability, they should come up with back up internet provider so they could just easily switch from another if ever there is a server or lagging issue. We will be watching monsters playing at their own caves, too exciting isn't it?

Quote from: ryzaadit on April 05, 2020, 04:09:40 AM

If each person playing on their own place would be not good for the teamwork, discussion strategy, and draft. I think the problem not an internet connection, but about teamwork will be not maximal since they only discuss using a mic. That's why they using Ceb & 33 to fill the empty slot, since Ceb & 33 was free,

Bad news is that Topson is not playing, good news is that Sumail is getting back to middle lane. Can't wait to study the movement on the map with Sumail on mid.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on April 05, 2020, 10:36:36 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on April 05, 2020, 06:05:53 AM

I've actually said that in my earlier post that Ceb and 33 will be the subs for team OG in this league. That's true that Midone and Topson are having trouble due to the lockdown issues.

The next match that you should watch guys is Team Secret vs. Team Liquid (old-alliance roster).

I don't know about you guys but I am Team Secret here. Team AlLiquid is not really that great, although they are growing to be a good team, they are not the same tier as Team Secret. Speaking of Team Liquid, they are not updating their site about this major at all, their stats about this is still the same as if it is not starting. Anyone can suggest sites here?

Edit: NVM, I realized I am clicking the old link, they have a separate link for the online games that are happening.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_One/Los_Angeles/2020/Online/Europe_CIS

Team Secret won 2 straight games.

I don't know what's on the mind of Team Liquid, they've picked 4 the same heroes but changing the carry first as slark and then Anti-Mage for the 2nd game.

Just always follow liquipedia, it's always updated thanks to the volunteers who never fails to update the page.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 05, 2020, 11:40:46 PM

OG will always be remembered as Ana, Topson, Ceb, Notail and Jerax. That is the OG that successfully made what once to be considered an impossible goal of earning two Aegis.

This of course is a thing that will be remembered as a big history in Dota 2.

Quote from: Darker45 on April 05, 2020, 11:40:46 PM

The team will never be the same with the current roster.

Yes of course, their chemistry is very very good and I see they're the most solid team so far. And they also have a pretty dramatic story behind their victory in TI 8 where that was the time they gathered together in full as a team.
If you watch their story in OG's comeback to win DOTA 2's TI8 | Against The Odds, that's the best documentary video that I've ever seen.

Quote from: Darker45 on April 05, 2020, 11:40:46 PM

But I am very excited how OG will somehow evolve into something else while keeping their incredible performance. For sure, MidOne, Sumail, and Saksa are not complete strangers to them. They must have crossed paths several times in the past. We will see how the team's chemistry will develop further until the TI 10 in August.

Back to the topic, I think if OG can get 2-0 against Team Secret, then I will not hesitate to bet on OG's victory. The rest is just about calculating the betting odds.

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Quote from: turkandjaydee on April 05, 2020, 10:58:14 PM

Quote from: Janation on April 05, 2020, 02:32:39 AM

The lineup is better with Ceb in it and it feels like it is not OG without Ceb in there. I mean he is a good coach but I think it is better for him to be in the active roster than coaching. Just look at the game and it proves how great a player he is.

We can't force someone to play if they don't want to. Maybe Ceb or even also Jerax are already satisfied with winning TI 2 times and now they're looking for something else.

The team will never be the same with the current roster. OG will always be remembered as Ana, Topson, Ceb, Notail and Jerax. That is the OG that successfully made what once to be considered an impossible goal of earning two Aegis. But I am very excited how OG will somehow evolve into something else while keeping their incredible performance. For sure, MidOne, Sumail, and Saksa are not complete strangers to them. They must have crossed paths several times in the past. We will see how the team's chemistry will develop further until the TI 10 in August.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on April 05, 2020, 04:43:48 AM

The win of OG against Team Nigma was flawless victory, really unexpected win of OG even they are not the original lineup which the odds also big on OG side.

In the last match against Nigma, OG was playing very similar to their playstyle in TI 9, they were just running into the enemies and make them fucked up.
And with 33's macro heroes, they were able to push and end the game so fast.

I think they can do something like that even without their TI 8 and TI 9 roster is because of Ceb and Notail. They're the key to their playstyle and strategy.

Quote from: Janation on April 05, 2020, 02:32:39 AM

The lineup is better with Ceb in it and it feels like it is not OG without Ceb in there. I mean he is a good coach but I think it is better for him to be in the active roster than coaching. Just look at the game and it proves how great a player he is.

We can't force someone to play if they don't want to. Maybe Ceb or even also Jerax are already satisfied with winning TI 2 times and now they're looking for something else.

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After the We Play Charity there is a new team getting a position for the upcoming majors and The international and that is the Team Adroit and this team beat huge players too and this is good too because after tnc, fnatic, mineski and geek fam there is a new pride of players in the sea server and now we are heading towards to support this team also for the upcoming major there is a huge chance on OG again to win this because by the combination of Notail, Ceb, midone, sumail at topson they can now make it easy with a good team combination but still it is not perfect of Ana will come back to the pro scene of Dota 2 again.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 05, 2020, 10:53:08 AM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on April 05, 2020, 10:36:36 AM

I don't know about you guys but I am Team Secret here. Team AlLiquid is not really that great, although they are growing to be a good team, they are not the same tier as Team Secret. Speaking of Team Liquid, they are not updating their site about this major at all, their stats about this is still the same as if it is not starting. Anyone can suggest sites here?

Tell to puppey do not punch his monitor or staring his own team went losing xD.

Well, that's in the past, right now, we have a Team Secret that dominated the season of 2019. As the casters said, he is the king of the normal season and that is because of the picking strat of Puppey. Right now, we are in the picking phase. Based on the picks, I can really ensure this is a Secret game, it is a Nisha Morph, everyone.

Edit: Surprisingly, it is a Matumbaman Morp, what is Puppey thinking?!

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on April 05, 2020, 10:36:36 AM

I don't know about you guys but I am Team Secret here. Team AlLiquid is not really that great, although they are growing to be a good team, they are not the same tier as Team Secret. Speaking of Team Liquid, they are not updating their site about this major at all, their stats about this is still the same as if it is not starting. Anyone can suggest sites here?

Tell to puppey do not punch his monitor or staring his own team went losing xD.

Well, I believe everyone using the same data for looking at some information about each team on dota 2: "Liquipedia"

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Quote from: sunsilk on April 05, 2020, 06:05:53 AM

Quote from: turkandjaydee on April 05, 2020, 01:29:21 AM

Quote from: Janation on April 04, 2020, 03:35:50 AM

but in terms of the upcoming major, ESL One Los Angeles, they will be going with their current line up with Midone and Topson.

Actually I was right

Topson and Midone aren't playing in this tournament. If I remember correctly, I think it's because they're not able to go across the country because of coronavirus pandemic.
So 33 who just left Alliance becomes a standin in OG and Ceb fills the other empty seat.

And surprisingly, they started this tournament with a very good performance in their first series. 2-0 against Nigma Shocked

I've actually said that in my earlier post that Ceb and 33 will be the subs for team OG in this league. That's true that Midone and Topson are having trouble due to the lockdown issues.

The next match that you should watch guys is Team Secret vs. Team Liquid (old-alliance roster).

I don't know about you guys but I am Team Secret here. Team AlLiquid is not really that great, although they are growing to be a good team, they are not the same tier as Team Secret. Speaking of Team Liquid, they are not updating their site about this major at all, their stats about this is still the same as if it is not starting. Anyone can suggest sites here?

Edit: NVM, I realized I am clicking the old link, they have a separate link for the online games that are happening.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_One/Los_Angeles/2020/Online/Europe_CIS

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Quote from: turkandjaydee on April 05, 2020, 01:29:21 AM

Quote from: Janation on April 04, 2020, 03:35:50 AM

but in terms of the upcoming major, ESL One Los Angeles, they will be going with their current line up with Midone and Topson.

Actually I was right

Topson and Midone aren't playing in this tournament. If I remember correctly, I think it's because they're not able to go across the country because of coronavirus pandemic.
So 33 who just left Alliance becomes a standin in OG and Ceb fills the other empty seat.

And surprisingly, they started this tournament with a very good performance in their first series. 2-0 against Nigma Shocked

I've actually said that in my earlier post that Ceb and 33 will be the subs for team OG in this league. That's true that Midone and Topson are having trouble due to the lockdown issues.

The next match that you should watch guys is Team Secret vs. Team Liquid (old-alliance roster).

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 05, 2020, 04:09:40 AM

Quote from: Janation on April 05, 2020, 02:32:39 AM

Yeah, my bad.

But the whole major will be done online so I don't think it is the matter of going across the country but because of the internet connection they have. That is the reason why Topson and Midone can't join the lineup.

Went every team playing an online tournament, most of them will be playing at their own Bootcamp.

If each person playing on their own place would be not good for the teamwork, discussion strategy, and draft. I think the problem not an internet connection, but about teamwork will be not maximal since they only discuss using a mic. That's why they using Ceb & 33 to fill the empty slot, since Ceb & 33 was free,

A big mess coming on them if they push that playing at home to continue that one maybe the best option for them is to set up the boot camp each team so that they can maximize their resources together the team communication aswell they can secure the health of their player.

But all things are seems figured out now and lets see what is the result of this actions.

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Standings update on the EUROPE & CIS region for this online tournament.
The win of OG against Team Nigma was flawless victory, really unexpected win of OG even they are not the original lineup which the odds also big on OG side.
While the othe other side, Viking.gg, CL, and Virtous Pro also owning this time, Virtous Pro is interesting team for this tournament and looking forward on them.

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Quote from: Janation on April 05, 2020, 02:32:39 AM

Yeah, my bad.

But the whole major will be done online so I don't think it is the matter of going across the country but because of the internet connection they have. That is the reason why Topson and Midone can't join the lineup.

Went every team playing an online tournament, most of them will be playing at their own Bootcamp.

If each person playing on their own place would be not good for the teamwork, discussion strategy, and draft. I think the problem not an internet connection, but about teamwork will be not maximal since they only discuss using a mic. That's why they using Ceb & 33 to fill the empty slot, since Ceb & 33 was free,

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Quote from: turkandjaydee on April 05, 2020, 01:29:21 AM

Quote from: Janation on April 04, 2020, 03:35:50 AM

but in terms of the upcoming major, ESL One Los Angeles, they will be going with their current line up with Midone and Topson.

Actually I was right

Topson and Midone aren't playing in this tournament. If I remember correctly, I think it's because they're not able to go across the country because of coronavirus pandemic.
So 33 who just left Alliance becomes a standin in OG and Ceb fills the other empty seat.

And surprisingly, they started this tournament with a very good performance in their first series. 2-0 against Nigma Shocked

Yeah, my bad.

But the whole major will be done online so I don't think it is the matter of going across the country but because of the internet connection they have. That is the reason why Topson and Midone can't join the lineup. The lineup is better with Ceb in it and it feels like it is not OG without Ceb in there. I mean he is a good coach but I think it is better for him to be in the active roster than coaching. Just look at the game and it proves how great a player he is.

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Quote from: Janation on April 04, 2020, 03:35:50 AM

but in terms of the upcoming major, ESL One Los Angeles, they will be going with their current line up with Midone and Topson.

Actually I was right

Topson and Midone aren't playing in this tournament. If I remember correctly, I think it's because they're not able to go across the country because of coronavirus pandemic.
So 33 who just left Alliance becomes a standin in OG and Ceb fills the other empty seat.

And surprisingly, they started this tournament with a very good performance in their first series. 2-0 against Nigma Shocked

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