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Quote from: jakelyson on August 10, 2022, 05:17:45 PM

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I am watching Entity and EG. It seems that EG is going to be out, it's the 3rd game (1-1) and currently the game is 25 minutes long already but the score is 6-16 in favor of Entity.
Watching EG being destroyed like this is not new anymore and Arthur's Alchemist isn't that fat at all. They're struggling and Entity is doing it right.
And I think the game is about to end so, it's likely Entity is going to move to the next round on the losers bracket unless EG flips the table.

Like I said above, they are being outdrafted again just like in game 2. They are now out of the competition and entity is moving forward in the lower bracket. Their next series will be against BOOM esports.

I am now interested to see how Boom will fair against another W europe team. They were able to beat Liquid but Entity is another level. If they can pull off an upset on Entity, I can say SEA teams has definitely improved. They have a day at least to strategies on how to defeat Entity.

Entity is underrated and no doubt that they're a strong team. I think I've seen them play in other tournaments and they've ended well on that one. Can't expect a lot from EG anymore, they're always like this and chokes every tournament and I doubt that they'll ever get a TI championship again. While the others don't appreciate how Boom is doing as they're from the SEA because they're not getting the expectation that they're thinking from them. Boom is actually on the advantage right now, they're already qualified to TI and that's why win or lose, they'll go home happy.

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Quote from: ralle14 on August 10, 2022, 08:34:55 PM

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There’s a high chance that the majors finals will gonna be China vs China since LGD and Aster still didn’t show any weakness and inconsistencies on there games. Team Aster usually choke on the first day of bracket but this time Monet still performing impressive and can be compared with Ame.

Even though Aster 2-0'd Fnatic they looked a bit shaky on the first game and then quickly crushed the matchup on the second game so I think their next series with Team Spirit might be a toss-up while PSG.LGD has the highest chance of going all the way to the grand finals coming from the upper bracket.

About Team Aster, They choke a lot of times on previous tournaments even though they show a dominant performance on group stages. Monet is a good carry in general but I think Yatoro can handle him easily because he sometimes not performing well if his team mates don’t give him enough space unlike Yatoro that can do the job done despite there laning phase is so ugly.

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I knew Team Spirit can win but I have high hopes that Outsider can dominate them on this tournament.

I was expecting Team Outsiders to come out on top during that series but Team Spirit got the better draft on the decider game.

Team Spirit only shows how strong they are Lower Bracket journey. This is same story on TI and the recent Riyadh Master which they manage to go on finals even though they went from lower bracket. I think they can beat the hell out of Team Aster because TS on momentum is very hard to defeat especially if Torontotokyo and Yatoro is on the zone.

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Any bettors on Fnatic vs Beastcoast under 2.5 maps? Not really feeling Beastcoast's form lately, also K1 is kinda slumping off of his performance quite a bit. Imagine being extremely ahead but still losing just because wrong calls were made and target prioritization fails mid fight. Stinger and Wisper's talent should be taken somewhere else, and I feel like their teammates are holding them back from achieving a lot of things.

Also, still can't decide between PSG.LGD and OG. Both are good teams on my book, though PSG.LGD's odds aren't that attractive. I think I'll lean on the over 2.5 maps just to be safe.

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I am watching Entity and EG. It seems that EG is going to be out, it's the 3rd game (1-1) and currently the game is 25 minutes long already but the score is 6-16 in favor of Entity.
Watching EG being destroyed like this is not new anymore and Arthur's Alchemist isn't that fat at all. They're struggling and Entity is doing it right.
And I think the game is about to end so, it's likely Entity is going to move to the next round on the losers bracket unless EG flips the table.

Like I said above, they are being outdrafted again just like in game 2. They are now out of the competition and entity is moving forward in the lower bracket. Their next series will be against BOOM esports.

I am now interested to see how Boom will fair against another W europe team. They were able to beat Liquid but Entity is another level. If they can pull off an upset on Entity, I can say SEA teams has definitely improved. They have a day at least to strategies on how to defeat Entity.

I am not a fan of Bulba and I really hope he will be replaced and maybe even Fly too. As an EG fan, I still want them to play in TI. And maybe Fnatic wins over beastcoast and then drops Outsiders then it'll be a free ticket for EG in the TI.

Arteezy's playstyle centers extremely on farming unlike other carries of this patch. Dude's mindset is still "hit creeps = win" while others gank after getting that first core item. Aside from Bulba, EG should replace their carry, or at least clue Arteezy in on the current meta of carries. Dota is no longer a farm = win game. It has become dynamic and in high tier dota you can see carries joining the fight even after min 10 if they see an opportunity.

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Quote from: jakelyson on August 10, 2022, 05:17:45 PM

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I am watching Entity and EG. It seems that EG is going to be out, it's the 3rd game (1-1) and currently the game is 25 minutes long already but the score is 6-16 in favor of Entity.
Watching EG being destroyed like this is not new anymore and Arthur's Alchemist isn't that fat at all. They're struggling and Entity is doing it right.
And I think the game is about to end so, it's likely Entity is going to move to the next round on the losers bracket unless EG flips the table.

Like I said above, they are being outdrafted again just like in game 2. They are now out of the competition and entity is moving forward in the lower bracket. Their next series will be against BOOM esports.

I am now interested to see how Boom will fair against another W europe team. They were able to beat Liquid but Entity is another level. If they can pull off an upset on Entity, I can say SEA teams has definitely improved. They have a day at least to strategies on how to defeat Entity.

I am not a fan of Bulba and I really hope he will be replaced and maybe even Fly too. As an EG fan, I still want them to play in TI. And maybe Fnatic wins over beastcoast and then drops Outsiders then it'll be a free ticket for EG in the TI.

As for Boom. I believe they are very good players. The decisions and maybe their confidence level too is what cost them some games. I'm still hoping for Boom to win against Entity but no more bets since they might become content with a TI ticket.

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Quote from: vennali on August 11, 2022, 12:02:58 AM

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EG defeat was predictable tho, at least for me, they have been perform poorly in this tournament, since day 1. They keep pushing RTZ to play heroes that he is not comfortable with and end up affecting the whole gameplay since he is the pos 1. And also I think the new offlaner haven't got the good chemistry with the team yet.

At the moment, I think Entity are a better team than EG anyways. Arteezy factor is always there but I haven't seem him hard carrying his team like he used to before. Teams anyways knows his playstyle and either try to ban his heros or know exactly what to do to mess with him. In a classic Entity fashion, they lose game 1 and get kinda stomped and they come back and stomp the next 2 games. They probably are just testing out strats for game 1 and get to what they've prepared for the next 2 games I suppose. That is to preserve their strats for longer period of time.

Well the result is indeed in favor with Entity just like what you predicted and here again EG for doing the same draft pick for Abed, Bulba really needs to explore about Abed potential because his draft is just like an open book for there opponent. Abed did manage to win using Storm and then Bulba draft the same puck pick on game 2 and 3 which gives Entity the ticket for the second round of there LB journey. EG is losing there edge already because there draft didn’t improved anymore. Even new Div1 team Entity is not scared to Arteezy.

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Quote from: icalical on August 10, 2022, 11:49:35 PM

EG defeat was predictable tho, at least for me, they have been perform poorly in this tournament, since day 1. They keep pushing RTZ to play heroes that he is not comfortable with and end up affecting the whole gameplay since he is the pos 1. And also I think the new offlaner haven't got the good chemistry with the team yet.

At the moment, I think Entity are a better team than EG anyways. Arteezy factor is always there but I haven't seem him hard carrying his team like he used to before. Teams anyways knows his playstyle and either try to ban his heros or know exactly what to do to mess with him. In a classic Entity fashion, they lose game 1 and get kinda stomped and they come back and stomp the next 2 games. They probably are just testing out strats for game 1 and get to what they've prepared for the next 2 games I suppose. That is to preserve their strats for longer period of time.

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Quote from: dunfida on August 10, 2022, 05:49:02 PM

And yes, it do ends up on 1-2 and Entity win and push through next game.. rtz alche and abed's puck didnt able to do something on game 3. Saberlights beastmaster is indeed a beast.

You would definitely freak out if other teams 2 offlaners would pass on you. LOL! Game 3 was too easy for entity or simply doesnt really need soo much effort. Seems like EG gameplay
never gets old. Cool

but still they could make themselves try out for TI qualifiers but it would really be hard.

EG defeat was predictable tho, at least for me, they have been perform poorly in this tournament, since day 1. They keep pushing RTZ to play heroes that he is not comfortable with and end up affecting the whole gameplay since he is the pos 1. And also I think the new offlaner haven't got the good chemistry with the team yet.

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There’s a high chance that the majors finals will gonna be China vs China since LGD and Aster still didn’t show any weakness and inconsistencies on there games. Team Aster usually choke on the first day of bracket but this time Monet still performing impressive and can be compared with Ame.

Even though Aster 2-0'd Fnatic they looked a bit shaky on the first game and then quickly crushed the matchup on the second game so I think their next series with Team Spirit might be a toss-up while PSG.LGD has the highest chance of going all the way to the grand finals coming from the upper bracket.

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I knew Team Spirit can win but I have high hopes that Outsider can dominate them on this tournament.

I was expecting Team Outsiders to come out on top during that series but Team Spirit got the better draft on the decider game.

After the last two games by Team Spirit when they could beat Navi and Outsiders, I won't be a surprise if Team Spirit can actually win over Aster. Their draft was always on point, and their performance is always consistent and discipline, especially Yatoro, his last play with Terrorblade is quite amazing.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on August 10, 2022, 05:20:29 AM

There’s a high chance that the majors finals will gonna be China vs China since LGD and Aster still didn’t show any weakness and inconsistencies on there games. Team Aster usually choke on the first day of bracket but this time Monet still performing impressive and can be compared with Ame.

Even though Aster 2-0'd Fnatic they looked a bit shaky on the first game and then quickly crushed the matchup on the second game so I think their next series with Team Spirit might be a toss-up while PSG.LGD has the highest chance of going all the way to the grand finals coming from the upper bracket.

Quote from: Coin_trader on August 10, 2022, 05:20:29 AM

I knew Team Spirit can win but I have high hopes that Outsider can dominate them on this tournament.

I was expecting Team Outsiders to come out on top during that series but Team Spirit got the better draft on the decider game.

Quote from: Oceat on August 10, 2022, 06:29:17 PM

I'm surprised how the prize drop though I guess there's a problem with Dota2 players or is that players don't like to play Dota2 anymore. Well, the only thing that pumped the price was when there's a battle pass and it might change in the coming dates. Who knows?

That's because the DPC Regional Tours got around $100k to $200k prize pool per division so it's understandable that the prizepool for the major wasn't that big and it means better financial distribution for the participating teams.

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I'm surprised how the prize drop though I guess there's a problem with Dota2 players or is that players don't like to play Dota2 anymore. Well, the only thing that pumped the price was when there's a battle pass and it might change in the coming dates. Who knows?

It seems like there's a lot of changes in players that seems so odd though problems like this do happen all the time even in the past. That's just sad for the team Fnatic who didn't pass cause of the visa problem maybe there's a lot of changes in the past that's why there members didn't make it.

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Quote from: jakelyson on August 10, 2022, 04:25:52 PM

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There’s a high chance that the majors finals will gonna be China vs China since LGD and Aster still didn’t show any weakness and inconsistencies on there games. Team Aster usually choke on the first day of bracket but this time Monet still performing impressive and can be compared with Ame.

You cant really say that SEA is still inferior.. Try to look on Boom esports which had able to defeat a strong team Liquid although this one isnt the former one but still they do able to pull it off.

It is really a surprise to see Boom esports defeating Liquid. It is not that they are only strong but they have shown discipline in their game which is very uncharacteristic of a team coming from SEA. I believe SEA teams are also adopting and starting to show domination. Maybe in a few years, if they continue to develop, SEA will not be the weakest region in DOTA.

EG is still inconsistent. They are very strong in game 1 and then were out drafted in game 2. And they are being out drafted again in game 3. Hope they can dominate the laning phase otherwise this series will go to Entity.

And yes, it do ends up on 1-2 and Entity win and push through next game.. rtz alche and abed's puck didnt able to do something on game 3. Saberlights beastmaster is indeed a beast.

You would definitely freak out if other teams 2 offlaners would pass on you. LOL! Game 3 was too easy for entity or simply doesnt really need soo much effort. Seems like EG gameplay
never gets old. Cool

but still they could make themselves try out for TI qualifiers but it would really be hard.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on August 10, 2022, 04:56:09 PM

I am watching Entity and EG. It seems that EG is going to be out, it's the 3rd game (1-1) and currently the game is 25 minutes long already but the score is 6-16 in favor of Entity.
Watching EG being destroyed like this is not new anymore and Arthur's Alchemist isn't that fat at all. They're struggling and Entity is doing it right.
And I think the game is about to end so, it's likely Entity is going to move to the next round on the losers bracket unless EG flips the table.

Like I said above, they are being outdrafted again just like in game 2. They are now out of the competition and entity is moving forward in the lower bracket. Their next series will be against BOOM esports.

I am now interested to see how Boom will fair against another W europe team. They were able to beat Liquid but Entity is another level. If they can pull off an upset on Entity, I can say SEA teams has definitely improved. They have a day at least to strategies on how to defeat Entity.

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I am watching Entity and EG. It seems that EG is going to be out, it's the 3rd game (1-1) and currently the game is 25 minutes long already but the score is 6-16 in favor of Entity.
Watching EG being destroyed like this is not new anymore and Arthur's Alchemist isn't that fat at all. They're struggling and Entity is doing it right.
And I think the game is about to end so, it's likely Entity is going to move to the next round on the losers bracket unless EG flips the table.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on August 10, 2022, 05:20:29 AM

There’s a high chance that the majors finals will gonna be China vs China since LGD and Aster still didn’t show any weakness and inconsistencies on there games. Team Aster usually choke on the first day of bracket but this time Monet still performing impressive and can be compared with Ame.

I'm already expecting this outcome, although it's hard to discount BOOM for what they've shown against a relatively stronger enemy earlier. They've proven themselves somewhat and has shown the world that a SEA team can be disciplined if they wanted to. However LGD is just the broken team right now. They can just pick whatever they want and make it work. I'm rooting for a SEA-China finals but China-China seems more plausible.

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Quote from: dunfida on August 10, 2022, 04:06:54 PM

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There’s a high chance that the majors finals will gonna be China vs China since LGD and Aster still didn’t show any weakness and inconsistencies on there games. Team Aster usually choke on the first day of bracket but this time Monet still performing impressive and can be compared with Ame.

You cant really say that SEA is still inferior.. Try to look on Boom esports which had able to defeat a strong team Liquid although this one isnt the former one but still they do able to pull it off.

It is really a surprise to see Boom esports defeating Liquid. It is not that they are only strong but they have shown discipline in their game which is very uncharacteristic of a team coming from SEA. I believe SEA teams are also adopting and starting to show domination. Maybe in a few years, if they continue to develop, SEA will not be the weakest region in DOTA.

EG is still inconsistent. They are very strong in game 1 and then were out drafted in game 2. And they are being out drafted again in game 3. Hope they can dominate the laning phase otherwise this series will go to Entity.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on August 10, 2022, 05:20:29 AM

There’s a high chance that the majors finals will gonna be China vs China since LGD and Aster still didn’t show any weakness and inconsistencies on there games. Team Aster usually choke on the first day of bracket but this time Monet still performing impressive and can be compared with Ame.

You cant really say that SEA is still inferior.. Try to look on Boom esports which had able to defeat a strong team Liquid although this one isnt the former one but still they do able to pull it off.

I have no doubts with LGD and wont be surprised if they would win this one and its true that Aster is a strong contender specially on HB against LGD.
This is what i do love when there are Chinese teams on tournament.

Current: Entity vs EG 1-1

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Nothing unusual with the result because it was expected that Chinese team will gonna sweep the inferior SEA team while the matches between EEU and WEU team results to 2-1 both matches. I knew Team Spirit can win but I have high hopes that Outsider can dominate them on this tournament.

There’s a high chance that the majors finals will gonna be China vs China since LGD and Aster still didn’t show any weakness and inconsistencies on there games. Team Aster usually choke on the first day of bracket but this time Monet still performing impressive and can be compared with Ame.

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With Aster taking the win against Fnatic in the last final upper bracket series, the next lower bracket series is scheduled to start 12 hours from now, with that said any of you guys already have some leans for tomorrow's set of series?

So far i'm only liking Entity @1.8 edging out EG as the odds are close to a 50-50 and the over 2.5 maps on RNG vs Outsiders since they split a map during the groups and the 360 points would give both teams enough points to barely secure an invite.

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Quote from: icalical on August 08, 2022, 08:35:59 AM

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This is true, What I don’t understand about LGD is why they always failed to show this consistency during TI which is the most prestigious tournament in Dota2. We know that this is same scenario last year that PSG.LGD dominates most of the major and minor tournaments yet they fall short on the finals to Team Spirit which is not that dominating on that time. We can’t deny that LGD is the most disciplined and focus team yet they still have weakness on closing a victory on finals with 5 rounds.

I think that is the problem for LGD while many European team keep some of their strategy on for TI, LGD just throw all of their strategy and play on the major. The key for Team Spirit winning is Magnus, and they only use the Magnus strategy only on TI, never played before that. That makes the other team need sometime to analyze and try to counter.

My gut says that LGD will not win this Arlington Major, Aster has a high chance to snatch this Major from LGD. Monet has been playing amazingly in this tournament.

Nice observation. I sometimes notice that because they are just playing same strategy on a single tournament especially there draft combination and rotation pattern which is prone to easily counter since they are doing it flawlessly. There greatest weapon always turn to there greatest weakness once the enemy team completely analyze all there cards.

I now realized how Team Spirit and OG denied them on TI finals because they are always showing all there card on the early games of the tournament without leaving extra cards to close the game.

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Quote from: vennali on August 08, 2022, 07:00:26 AM

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I think the only team who can stop PSG.LGD is Team.Aster and Monet as that carry player is insane in farming , map positioning and team fights but same think can be said on Ame PSG as well.

Chinese dota is on another level and we see that EU teams and EG from NA are trying to copy some drafts here and there but it seems only EG is starting to finally found their pace and style and I do want to see a game between EG and PSG but until that , final games of groups right ?

I see PSG.LGD winning another Major. They are just too good when it comes to early and mid game team fights, irrespective of the draft. Team coordination is next level. With OG, Team Secret, Team Spirit etc all not have a great time. It's PSG.LGD that has remained consistent. Aster seems like the only team close to LGD but I doubt they could overcome in a 5 game affair.

We will see. It is different when it is just BO2 or BO3 than Bo5. It is when usually strategies get exposed that sometimes they fail to adjust to the latter games. The only thing is since PSG is at a top bracket and top seed, they may have an advantage in rest versus those teams that are coming from the lower bracket. If I were LGD, I would just throw this tournament since it has no bearing on them for TI and reserve my strategies for the bigger stage in TI11.

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