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Jine is in DC with his girlfriend eating cheeseburgers!
Topic: [DOWN] Bitlc.net - P2SH, No invalid blocks, Custom payouts, EU, 0% fee, LP - page 20. (Read 180924 times)
July 17, 2011, 03:50:16 AM
July 17, 2011, 03:22:29 AM
The pool is is as lucky as it should be, in fact luck since this difficulty started is +1.7%. How do I know? Because I did the actual stats using real math:
They are not "rants". I have mined on bitcoins.lc almost since day one and never had a single issue before.
I'm fully aware of the overall pool luck which is normal.
The troubles didn't begin at the start of 1.56m difficulty. It began maybe a week ago.
You might be mining just for fun.
Some people can't risk instability and 0.5+BTC losses per round (will you mine at this hash rate not knowing whether a long block is actually 3 different blocks when you need currency to keep your mining operations going in the short term?)
This is not some game.
Bringing up potential issues like downtime, missing blocks etc. so far have all proven to be correct so you have nothing to complain about.
Jine has in fact admitted those issues mostly.
July 17, 2011, 02:56:24 AM
34,560,000,000,000,000 hashes
p.s. This round did not actually happen, the administrators corrected the error. Nor has a 9+ million share round ever occurred on any pool as of today. Deepbit has had 5-6 million share rounds, bitcoins.lc and slush have had similar, but that's about it.
Well here is one : block 136589 9089199 round on BTCGuild.... so it is possible...
Well that round didn't happen (as I said "imaginary round" in the post that was quoted), but this one did, setting a record that btcguild didn't match yet - bitcoins.lc round 266, solving block 135944 only after 10,048,350 shares!
July 17, 2011, 02:47:38 AM
34,560,000,000,000,000 hashes
p.s. This round did not actually happen, the administrators corrected the error. Nor has a 9+ million share round ever occurred on any pool as of today. Deepbit has had 5-6 million share rounds, bitcoins.lc and slush have had similar, but that's about it.
Well here is one : block 136589 9089199 round on BTCGuild.... so it is possible...
July 17, 2011, 02:42:58 AM
You never know if the workers are even working on a block. Stales go through the roof.
Multiple rounds become stacked as a huge round & you never know if an ultra-long round is even genuine or if it's just variance.
Maybe 3 rounds disappeared for all eternity as unclaimed blocks, untracked by the software. Maybe they didn't.
I check up on workers, just to see they had 'connection problems' for the last 5 hours even after patches, and the pool is not even under DDoS.
It gets solved for a day or two & begins again.
The pool has degenerated into solving less blocks than pools 5-10x smaller.
http://pident.artefact2.com/pool/Bitcoins.lc
Fact is, I don't want to quit. Seems many other people are not quitting either.
But this stuff adds up to huge losses over mining at other pools & is soon not worth the 0% fee perk.
Not everyone is casually mining with a CPU, this is starting to cost hundreds of dollars in the short term
unrecoverable even by a few lucky rounds.
Multiple rounds become stacked as a huge round & you never know if an ultra-long round is even genuine or if it's just variance.
Maybe 3 rounds disappeared for all eternity as unclaimed blocks, untracked by the software. Maybe they didn't.
I check up on workers, just to see they had 'connection problems' for the last 5 hours even after patches, and the pool is not even under DDoS.
It gets solved for a day or two & begins again.
The pool has degenerated into solving less blocks than pools 5-10x smaller.
http://pident.artefact2.com/pool/Bitcoins.lc
Fact is, I don't want to quit. Seems many other people are not quitting either.
But this stuff adds up to huge losses over mining at other pools & is soon not worth the 0% fee perk.
Not everyone is casually mining with a CPU, this is starting to cost hundreds of dollars in the short term
unrecoverable even by a few lucky rounds.
Can you please be quiet with these rants? "Stales" are not going through the roof, efficiency is the same as it always has been, about 2% and markedly decreasing with a new patch that was put in. The pool is having some difficulty right now, it is probably is similar to what was basically a DDOS earlier today when someone pointed a botnet or a pool-hopper proxy at the pool and made thousands of connections for little work, which only points out that the pool should be aggressively blocking low efficiency workers and delaying stats way beyond where it gives any information about the current round. All pools have had downtime from DDOSs, fake share floods, etc, so you should have a backup miner ready to go, or run two miners per GPU so one pool's outages don't affect your earnings.
The pool is is as lucky as it should be, in fact luck since this difficulty started is +1.7%. How do I know? Because I did the actual stats using real math:
Thread-crappers are seeing patterns in random data where there is none and clinging onto it like religion even when presented with outstanding reason. Your perception of rounds being too long is skewed, as the delayed stats don't even show you short rounds. Variance is like a bicycle in the hills: You go uphill at 5mph and downhill at 25mph, so you spend 83% of your time going uphill. And then you bitch about how the roads are unfair when you get to your destination, and piss everybody off.
July 17, 2011, 02:31:35 AM
You never know if the workers are even working on a block. Stales go through the roof.
Multiple rounds become stacked as a huge round & you never know if an ultra-long round is even genuine or if it's just variance.
Maybe 3 rounds disappeared for all eternity as unclaimed blocks, untracked by the software. Maybe they didn't.
I check up on workers, just to see they had 'connection problems' for the last 5 hours even after patches, and the pool is not even under DDoS.
It gets solved for a day or two & begins again.
The pool has degenerated into solving less blocks than pools 5-10x smaller.
http://pident.artefact2.com/pool/Bitcoins.lc
Fact is, I don't want to quit. Seems many other people are not quitting either.
But this stuff adds up to huge losses over mining at other pools & is soon not worth the 0% fee perk.
Not everyone is casually mining with a CPU, this is starting to cost hundreds of dollars in the short term
unrecoverable even by a few lucky rounds.
Multiple rounds become stacked as a huge round & you never know if an ultra-long round is even genuine or if it's just variance.
Maybe 3 rounds disappeared for all eternity as unclaimed blocks, untracked by the software. Maybe they didn't.
I check up on workers, just to see they had 'connection problems' for the last 5 hours even after patches, and the pool is not even under DDoS.
It gets solved for a day or two & begins again.
The pool has degenerated into solving less blocks than pools 5-10x smaller.
http://pident.artefact2.com/pool/Bitcoins.lc
Fact is, I don't want to quit. Seems many other people are not quitting either.
But this stuff adds up to huge losses over mining at other pools & is soon not worth the 0% fee perk.
Not everyone is casually mining with a CPU, this is starting to cost hundreds of dollars in the short term
unrecoverable even by a few lucky rounds.
quoted for emphasis
Here here!
July 17, 2011, 12:49:43 AM
I like this pool a lot and wish it would work better. I don't even care so much about the lack of fees. I just like the site, the design, the philosophy, and the fact that it's in Sweden. 
So I hope these issues get sorted out. +1 on the previous comments.
So I hope these issues get sorted out. +1 on the previous comments. July 17, 2011, 12:12:39 AM
You never know if the workers are even working on a block. Stales go through the roof.
Multiple rounds become stacked as a huge round & you never know if an ultra-long round is even genuine or if it's just variance.
Maybe 3 rounds disappeared for all eternity as unclaimed blocks, untracked by the software. Maybe they didn't.
I check up on workers, just to see they had 'connection problems' for the last 5 hours even after patches, and the pool is not even under DDoS.
It gets solved for a day or two & begins again.
The pool has degenerated into solving less blocks than pools 5-10x smaller.
http://pident.artefact2.com/pool/Bitcoins.lc
Fact is, I don't want to quit. Seems many other people are not quitting either.
But this stuff adds up to huge losses over mining at other pools & is soon not worth the 0% fee perk.
Not everyone is casually mining with a CPU, this is starting to cost hundreds of dollars in the short term
unrecoverable even by a few lucky rounds.
Multiple rounds become stacked as a huge round & you never know if an ultra-long round is even genuine or if it's just variance.
Maybe 3 rounds disappeared for all eternity as unclaimed blocks, untracked by the software. Maybe they didn't.
I check up on workers, just to see they had 'connection problems' for the last 5 hours even after patches, and the pool is not even under DDoS.
It gets solved for a day or two & begins again.
The pool has degenerated into solving less blocks than pools 5-10x smaller.
http://pident.artefact2.com/pool/Bitcoins.lc
Fact is, I don't want to quit. Seems many other people are not quitting either.
But this stuff adds up to huge losses over mining at other pools & is soon not worth the 0% fee perk.
Not everyone is casually mining with a CPU, this is starting to cost hundreds of dollars in the short term
unrecoverable even by a few lucky rounds.
quoted for emphasis
July 17, 2011, 12:06:56 AM
You never know if the workers are even working on a block. Stales go through the roof.
Multiple rounds become stacked as a huge round & you never know if an ultra-long round is even genuine or if it's just variance.
Maybe 3 rounds disappeared for all eternity as unclaimed blocks, untracked by the software. Maybe they didn't.
I check up on workers, just to see they had 'connection problems' for the last 5 hours even after patches, and the pool is not even under DDoS.
It gets solved for a day or two & begins again.
The pool has degenerated into solving less blocks than pools 5-10x smaller.
http://pident.artefact2.com/pool/Bitcoins.lc
Fact is, I don't want to quit. Seems many other people are not quitting either.
But this stuff adds up to huge losses over mining at other pools & is soon not worth the 0% fee perk.
Not everyone is casually mining with a CPU, this is starting to cost hundreds of dollars in the short term
unrecoverable even by a few lucky rounds.
Multiple rounds become stacked as a huge round & you never know if an ultra-long round is even genuine or if it's just variance.
Maybe 3 rounds disappeared for all eternity as unclaimed blocks, untracked by the software. Maybe they didn't.
I check up on workers, just to see they had 'connection problems' for the last 5 hours even after patches, and the pool is not even under DDoS.
It gets solved for a day or two & begins again.
The pool has degenerated into solving less blocks than pools 5-10x smaller.
http://pident.artefact2.com/pool/Bitcoins.lc
Fact is, I don't want to quit. Seems many other people are not quitting either.
But this stuff adds up to huge losses over mining at other pools & is soon not worth the 0% fee perk.
Not everyone is casually mining with a CPU, this is starting to cost hundreds of dollars in the short term
unrecoverable even by a few lucky rounds.
July 17, 2011, 12:00:30 AM
Hash rate down to 280Gh/s now, workers falling off quick, something is definitely wrong with the pool..
Yeah major issues connecting. One rig is working, the other 4 are connecting for a few minutes, then can't connect for 10-20 minutes, then connect again for a few minutes.
July 16, 2011, 10:45:32 PM
I've got both my GPU's running. Just noticed massive rejection rates and now they're not running any processes. I only run my miner at night because it's cooler and I can not run it during the day. Seems like I can write tonight off as a loss. I think I'm going to start looking at another pool.
edit, one GPU just picked up some work and it was rejected. I'm not going to spend the power tonight to mine rejected shares.
I'm mining with another pool tonight. Just noticed we're down to 188.04 Ghash/s at the moment. Something is seriously wrong.
edit, one GPU just picked up some work and it was rejected. I'm not going to spend the power tonight to mine rejected shares.
I'm mining with another pool tonight. Just noticed we're down to 188.04 Ghash/s at the moment. Something is seriously wrong.
July 16, 2011, 09:48:56 PM
Hash rate down to 280Gh/s now, workers falling off quick, something is definitely wrong with the pool..
July 16, 2011, 09:32:51 PM
How did you end up rate limiting hosts? Asking because almost 15 workers here and sure enough since last night they cannot all reliably connect, if I start up some others fall offline, etc. I cannot keep everything running now without some not getting work, I temporarily moved my 2.7Gh/s rig to Diablo again and it's getting work and others can stay up but the rejects are worse then ever. I'm not sure what to do to keep my 5+Gh/s on this pool since I'm always fighting something..
EDIT: Pool reporting about 340Gh/s are you losing this many users or do you have an issue right now?
EDIT: Pool reporting about 340Gh/s are you losing this many users or do you have an issue right now?
July 16, 2011, 11:43:38 AM
Hmm from the stats page, looks like I found that one. But damn it, 12000 shares plus to do it? Ouch, at this rate... .09btc / 12k shares is depressing at this difficulty level.
July 16, 2011, 08:46:25 AM
From digbtc.com:
2011-07-16 01:12:39 136482 deep
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136481 btcmine
2011-07-16 00:55:42 136480 btcguild
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136479 bitcoinpool
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136479 slush
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136478 btcguild
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136478 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:40:51 136477 deep
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136477 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:38:11 136476 deep
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136476 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:28:06 136475 mtred
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136475 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:18:00 136474 mtred
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136474 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:14:54 136473 btcguild
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136473 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:04:00 136472 deep
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136472 bitcoinpool
2011-07-15 22:52:01 136471 deep
2011-07-15 22:44:57 136470 deep
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136469 slush
Looks like there's a lot that haven't been paid out yet.
Welp...
Previous round duration 16 hours, 44 minutes
Just got paid for my 3000 shares. Guess it was another long one.
2011-07-16 01:12:39 136482 deep
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136481 btcmine
2011-07-16 00:55:42 136480 btcguild
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136479 bitcoinpool
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136479 slush
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136478 btcguild
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136478 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:40:51 136477 deep
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136477 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:38:11 136476 deep
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136476 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:28:06 136475 mtred
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136475 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:18:00 136474 mtred
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136474 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:14:54 136473 btcguild
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136473 bitcoinpool
2011-07-16 00:04:00 136472 deep
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136472 bitcoinpool
2011-07-15 22:52:01 136471 deep
2011-07-15 22:44:57 136470 deep
0000-00-00 00:00:00 136469 slush
Looks like there's a lot that haven't been paid out yet.
Welp...
Previous round duration 16 hours, 44 minutes
Just got paid for my 3000 shares. Guess it was another long one.
July 16, 2011, 08:32:53 AM
So.. Another 20 hour round coming up or is push6/mysql lagging again with publishing previous blocks
July 16, 2011, 05:12:35 AM
Because I have never, ever, ever, had that many shares go into one block at approx 850MH/s
That block was a 9m round. So it's absolutely possible.PabloW:
They are, i can promise you that.
/ Jim
July 16, 2011, 02:40:37 AM
We now got 6 last balanced pushpoold/bitcoind nodes.
Now it's time for some coding on the new system, I've had to postpone it until now due to the issues, rejected shares and stability issues.
Everything seems to work better now, that's really, really good
I'll keep you guys updated.
That's a pretty nice little Xen cluster for a bitcoin pool Now it's time for some coding on the new system, I've had to postpone it until now due to the issues, rejected shares and stability issues.
Everything seems to work better now, that's really, really good
I'll keep you guys updated.
You should get a NetApp now, hehe. July 15, 2011, 11:24:53 PM
Seems like the top list is never coming back
July 15, 2011, 11:09:29 PM
So I take it this didn't really happen? and there were multiple blocks in this one?
Received Block 136335 - Thursday 14 Jul 20:37:43 PDT
Based upon 16212 valid shares.
Because I have never, ever, ever, had that many shares go into one block at approx 850MH/s
And the one 6950 I threw at Elgius for a bit made more then my 6950 and 5850 at bitcoins.lc over the same time frame... Hopefully this is being fixed? Or is fixed with the sql restart, upgrade, etc? I mean we are running out of time where the difficulty is going to be this low... every time it ratchets up, I make less and less with my cards... Eventually, we'll be doing a block every couple days... (except everyone else will be too )
Is it fixed Jine?
Thx
Received Block 136335 - Thursday 14 Jul 20:37:43 PDT
Based upon 16212 valid shares.
Because I have never, ever, ever, had that many shares go into one block at approx 850MH/s
And the one 6950 I threw at Elgius for a bit made more then my 6950 and 5850 at bitcoins.lc over the same time frame... Hopefully this is being fixed? Or is fixed with the sql restart, upgrade, etc? I mean we are running out of time where the difficulty is going to be this low... every time it ratchets up, I make less and less with my cards... Eventually, we'll be doing a block every couple days... (except everyone else will be too
)Is it fixed Jine?
Thx
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