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Quote from: serveria.com on January 23, 2023, 06:10:31 PM

I can speak for myself, I'm not sure if my pov is common or not. I feel more safe when a gambling website is registered with a gambling authority (no matter where in the world). Just gives me that extra feeling of security. I'm not really interested who runs/maintains the casino and their identity. But that's just me of course.

we all have our own decision about when and how we conduct or gambling activities , while you are looking for registered sites , I am for those who had been running for long time even if they are or not registered because that way I am more sure of their activities and their behavior as people will tell you who they are and not just because they have license that sometimes caring about nothing as they can still manage to scam players.

You know, even well-known popular casinos sometimes refuse to pay the winners (not all of them obviously). At least you can see online reviews here and there claiming they didn't pay this and that. I know, sometimes these are false accusations, but still, certain negative reviews can be verified and are credible. Roll Eyes

Isn't it the most popular casino, of course, has a high level of trust, so it's impossible if the casino doesn't want to pay large amounts of wins.
With the casinos not wanting to pay their winnings directly, the casinos are risking the casino business they have started from the bottom so that it can become the most popular casino and that will be very detrimental.

It's possible that there are indeed some people who make threads of false accusations that their winnings are not paid, but they cannot provide clear evidence about this so that we can sort it out and think clearly whether the casino they are accusing really doesn't want to pay it because I have found it myself. thread of accusation however which makes thread unable to show any evidence and disappears.

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Quote from: decodx on January 25, 2023, 10:18:33 AM

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But I am still required by law to publish my personal information in public records as the CEO of the company. Why should an online casino be any different?

All types of companies are already required to submit their personal information to regulators are they not? Those records are not readily available to the public and they have to make some request before they can get it from what I know. The difference in what the OP is trying to do is that they're planning to release info that's probably beyond what's required by law.

I just look at the details of other site and you can just search for their registered name and you'll see their license information and their registered address, unfortunately I didn't see the name behind the project and I guess this is for their confidentiality and maybe they also want to remain anonymous as they offer a KYC platform. If OP is trying to look for a details that should remain private, I guess he will not succeed on this. If you are planning to put up a casino, telling who you are might not be enough to market your casino, so better to focus on your marketing strategy while strengthening the security of every players.

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Hi friends, I am still on the matter of helping a friend who wants to build his own gambling project, the question of the day is about KYC verification, why are popular crypto gambling platforms are not KYC verified themselves? I mean the team behind the online casino why are they not KYC verified and they ask for KYC instead?

Every casino definitely has a plan behind it for the running of a casino and what developments will be carried out.
Maybe there are some things that the team did but not published to the gamblers or casino users.
It would be better and better if we believed in and obeyed the policies or regulations that have been made by the casino even though we did not know the intent and purpose of these policies, it was clear that the casino made them to guarantee the comfort and goodness of every user in it, even though it had to ask for a KYC.

No casino authority will share their information with the public. Because they are also limited by certain rules. A gambler is at his own detriment if he becomes a victim of scamming by sharing his information. Just to be deserve that if an important person in charge of a gambling platform falls victim to such a situation, thousands of people will suffer. Naturally their concern is more important than the public.

There are several rules and regulations to follow in order to operate a casino. Otherwise those casino sites may be exposed to threats. If the casino is licensed then it has to fulfill certain obligations. And if it's not licensed, they still have to operate the casino within the rules.

If a normal user feels that his KYC information is dangerous to those unlicensed casinos then he can definitely leave that platform. But nowadays those who really want to develop gambling sites always try to keep that information safe.

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1. We have already thousands of casinos. For a new casino it will tough to survive among others. Nearly impossible.
2. New casino needs a loud promotion campaign, welcome bonuses, something attractive and new, to keep users on a platform.
3. In a digital era, why would gamblers trust doxxed team? We have black ID market. Anyone can be anyone. If I show you my passport, linkedin account, picture, could you tell who is behind the keyboard? 18 years old girl with a candy or a greedy scammer?

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Quote from: kotajikikox on January 30, 2023, 02:36:56 AM

Quote from: serveria.com on January 23, 2023, 06:10:31 PM

I can speak for myself, I'm not sure if my pov is common or not. I feel more safe when a gambling website is registered with a gambling authority (no matter where in the world). Just gives me that extra feeling of security. I'm not really interested who runs/maintains the casino and their identity. But that's just me of course.

we all have our own decision about when and how we conduct or gambling activities , while you are looking for registered sites , I am for those who had been running for long time even if they are or not registered because that way I am more sure of their activities and their behavior as people will tell you who they are and not just because they have license that sometimes caring about nothing as they can still manage to scam players.

You know, even well-known popular casinos sometimes refuse to pay the winners (not all of them obviously). At least you can see online reviews here and there claiming they didn't pay this and that. I know, sometimes these are false accusations, but still, certain negative reviews can be verified and are credible. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: CryptSafe on January 30, 2023, 04:16:42 AM

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Quote from: decodx on January 25, 2023, 10:18:33 AM

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But I am still required by law to publish my personal information in public records as the CEO of the company. Why should an online casino be any different?

All types of companies are already required to submit their personal information to regulators are they not? Those records are not readily available to the public and they have to make some request before they can get it from what I know. The difference in what the OP is trying to do is that they're planning to release info that's probably beyond what's required by law.

And only the regulators will know the personal information of each of these companies. We as the public, will not know about it and the casino itself will not issue any news to the public about it either. And we don't need to worry about it. We just keep playing and hope to win. Whether the identity of the casino owner and his team are published or will remain anonymous will not be a problem for gamblers because if his identity is revealed to the public but the casino cannot provide good performance for its users, it will mean nothing.

It does not necessarily means that for casinos to be patronized, the CEO would or the casino would make public the identities of the board of directors or otherwise. I just believe since casinos are licensed by the government, they have the right to operate and government are in possession of their identity profiles so that should not call for alarm. Just as you have said, gamblers and bettors only aim and goals are just to play and win their games and as we all know not every time it is so. Sometimes you win and sometimes you loss that is the nature of the casino business so any one going in for it should be prepared mentality, psychologically, emotionally and otherwise so as not to get unexpected reaction from an event on result of game play. As to the identities of casinos ownership, it does not really matter to gamers as long as the casino git a government license to operate. I myself am okay by that. Every one has his or her own opinion about that.

Talking about crypto casino there are only few of them got license because some of the country maybe doesn't accept this or they have strict requirements before they can get some, only curacao is easy country to get that but it doesn't mean anything since scam casino can also get that in that country. So what most valid point to see right now is how long those casino operates and their performance on that time span of operation siince this will tell everything about pointing out if they are good or not. KYC of their owner is just a bonus point to see but actually not so important.

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Quote from: maydna on January 26, 2023, 12:24:38 AM

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Quote from: decodx on January 25, 2023, 10:18:33 AM

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But I am still required by law to publish my personal information in public records as the CEO of the company. Why should an online casino be any different?

All types of companies are already required to submit their personal information to regulators are they not? Those records are not readily available to the public and they have to make some request before they can get it from what I know. The difference in what the OP is trying to do is that they're planning to release info that's probably beyond what's required by law.

And only the regulators will know the personal information of each of these companies. We as the public, will not know about it and the casino itself will not issue any news to the public about it either. And we don't need to worry about it. We just keep playing and hope to win. Whether the identity of the casino owner and his team are published or will remain anonymous will not be a problem for gamblers because if his identity is revealed to the public but the casino cannot provide good performance for its users, it will mean nothing.

It does not necessarily means that for casinos to be patronized, the CEO would or the casino would make public the identities of the board of directors or otherwise. I just believe since casinos are licensed by the government, they have the right to operate and government are in possession of their identity profiles so that should not call for alarm. Just as you have said, gamblers and bettors only aim and goals are just to play and win their games and as we all know not every time it is so. Sometimes you win and sometimes you loss that is the nature of the casino business so any one going in for it should be prepared mentality, psychologically, emotionally and otherwise so as not to get unexpected reaction from an event on result of game play. As to the identities of casinos ownership, it does not really matter to gamers as long as the casino git a government license to operate. I myself am okay by that. Every one has his or her own opinion about that.

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Quote from: serveria.com on January 23, 2023, 06:10:31 PM

I can speak for myself, I'm not sure if my pov is common or not. I feel more safe when a gambling website is registered with a gambling authority (no matter where in the world). Just gives me that extra feeling of security. I'm not really interested who runs/maintains the casino and their identity. But that's just me of course.

we all have our own decision about when and how we conduct or gambling activities , while you are looking for registered sites , I am for those who had been running for long time even if they are or not registered because that way I am more sure of their activities and their behavior as people will tell you who they are and not just because they have license that sometimes caring about nothing as they can still manage to scam players.

Quote from: bettercrypto on January 25, 2023, 03:14:06 AM

For me, it doesn't matter if the team management passes KYC, because first of all we customers or clients are obliged to follow the rules and policies they have. In other words, we do not have the right to dictate to the team to pass their KYC as they are asking us to do.

And in that regard, I don't see anything wrong because they are the group management team.

as long as it is written from the beginning ? then there will be no issues , but the thing is that most of them tries to Hide that rules to lure and mislead people.

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Quote from: Yogee on January 25, 2023, 07:23:13 PM

Quote from: decodx on January 25, 2023, 10:18:33 AM

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But I am still required by law to publish my personal information in public records as the CEO of the company. Why should an online casino be any different?

All types of companies are already required to submit their personal information to regulators are they not? Those records are not readily available to the public and they have to make some request before they can get it from what I know. The difference in what the OP is trying to do is that they're planning to release info that's probably beyond what's required by law.

And only the regulators will know the personal information of each of these companies. We as the public, will not know about it and the casino itself will not issue any news to the public about it either. And we don't need to worry about it. We just keep playing and hope to win. Whether the identity of the casino owner and his team are published or will remain anonymous will not be a problem for gamblers because if his identity is revealed to the public but the casino cannot provide good performance for its users, it will mean nothing.

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Quote from: Yogee on January 25, 2023, 07:23:13 PM

All types of companies are already required to submit their personal information to regulators are they not? Those records are not readily available to the public and they have to make some request before they can get it from what I know. The difference in what the OP is trying to do is that they're planning to release info that's probably beyond what's required by law.

I think most of crypto owner are using this method https://www.upcounsel.com/anonymous-llc

They're can hide their name from public although they're still need to submit their real name and identity to the regulators, but it will depends on how big is the case and does the regulators are responsible to expose the real owner. Just like Curacao license which is really pointless if you think they will able to control and make sure the casino isnt' scam, they have nothing to do even the casino turn become scam and the victim report to third party gambling site e.g. gamblingguru etc.

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Quote from: decodx on January 25, 2023, 10:18:33 AM

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But I am still required by law to publish my personal information in public records as the CEO of the company. Why should an online casino be any different?

All types of companies are already required to submit their personal information to regulators are they not? Those records are not readily available to the public and they have to make some request before they can get it from what I know. The difference in what the OP is trying to do is that they're planning to release info that's probably beyond what's required by law.

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Quote from: Yogee on January 25, 2023, 07:32:24 AM

Quote from: decodx on January 24, 2023, 05:16:58 PM

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While it's true that there is always a potential for danger when personal information is known, the fact is that these types of attacks and threats are relatively rare. And I still disagree that the owners of cryptocurrency casinos would be in any more danger than the owners of traditional casinos and other physical businesses. And besides, we have laws and police to protect them, it's not like we live in the wild west.

I'm going to escalate this a bit.

Let's say for example a player won $100K but he was not allowed by the casino to claim it for some reason. He became desperate and took his frustration out on the casino owner by pulling a gun. Attacks like that may be rare as it seems but it will only take one to take a life. Yes laws and police can come after the player but that won't save the owner anymore. Casino business is tricky and that danger is there for owners regardless if it's online or physical.

I haven't seen Casino owners coming around to the location themselves, they always remain unknown and their business locations are operated by other people, this is also the reason why they remain anonymous, the danger of exposing who the CEO of a gambling platform is is very big, moreover many bad people do gamble a lot, gangs, robbers, armed criminals etc, they could decide to take matter into their hands.

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Quote from: Yogee on January 25, 2023, 07:32:24 AM

Quote from: decodx on January 24, 2023, 05:16:58 PM

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While it's true that there is always a potential for danger when personal information is known, the fact is that these types of attacks and threats are relatively rare. And I still disagree that the owners of cryptocurrency casinos would be in any more danger than the owners of traditional casinos and other physical businesses. And besides, we have laws and police to protect them, it's not like we live in the wild west.

I'm going to escalate this a bit.

Let's say for example a player won $100K but he was not allowed by the casino to claim it for some reason. He became desperate and took his frustration out on the casino owner by pulling a gun. Attacks like that may be rare as it seems but it will only take one to take a life. Yes laws and police can come after the player but that won't save the owner anymore. Casino business is tricky and that danger is there for owners regardless if it's online or physical.

I get your point and I agree that there are certainly some unscrupulous individuals out there who may use such drastic actions. However, I still don't see how online casinos are fundamentally different from brick-and-mortar ones in this regard. Let's say that I am the CEO of a company that runs a chain of casinos across the country. Should I be afraid to walk down the street because of all the losers who lost their life savings in one of my casinos? Well, maybe I should. But I am still required by law to publish my personal information in public records as the CEO of the company. Why should an online casino be any different?

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Quote from: decodx on January 24, 2023, 05:16:58 PM

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While it's true that there is always a potential for danger when personal information is known, the fact is that these types of attacks and threats are relatively rare. And I still disagree that the owners of cryptocurrency casinos would be in any more danger than the owners of traditional casinos and other physical businesses. And besides, we have laws and police to protect them, it's not like we live in the wild west.

I'm going to escalate this a bit.

Let's say for example a player won $100K but he was not allowed by the casino to claim it for some reason. He became desperate and took his frustration out on the casino owner by pulling a gun. Attacks like that may be rare as it seems but it will only take one to take a life. Yes laws and police can come after the player but that won't save the owner anymore. Casino business is tricky and that danger is there for owners regardless if it's online or physical.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on January 25, 2023, 03:14:06 AM

For me, it doesn't matter if the team management passes KYC, because first of all we customers or clients are obliged to follow the rules and policies they have. In other words, we do not have the right to dictate to the team to pass their KYC as they are asking us to do.

And in that regard, I don't see anything wrong because they are the group management team.

It depends on each gambler because some gamblers want to see who is behind the casino team, so they think it will look cool to show the public who they are. But from a security point of view, they cannot freely leave their house because there might be some people who will recognize them. Besides that, they could use other people's identities to be shown to the public, and if this happened, it would be tantamount to deceiving the public.

Let the casino team not reveal their identity. But we as users cannot do that because when we play gambling at a casino, we must be prepared that the casino may ask us to do KYC at any time.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on January 25, 2023, 03:14:06 AM

For me, it doesn't matter if the team management passes KYC, because first of all we customers or clients are obliged to follow the rules and policies they have. In other words, we do not have the right to dictate to the team to pass their KYC as they are asking us to do.

And in that regard, I don't see anything wrong because they are the group management team.

And they are obliged to follow the rules and policies as well. Starting with ones that exist in the country where they are registered and where they operate, to the ones that they create themselves. Among all other things, that management team is responsible for crazy big casino bankrolls, so I guess they should pass KYC (and probably a full background check) before players. But someone said that the crypto gambling space is a wild west and I agree with that, at least here on the forum we have seen many times what some casinos do and get away with it.

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For me, it doesn't matter if the team management passes KYC, because first of all we customers or clients are obliged to follow the rules and policies they have. In other words, we do not have the right to dictate to the team to pass their KYC as they are asking us to do.

And in that regard, I don't see anything wrong because they are the group management team.

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I heard it's not easy to run a licensed casino either online or offline, if you like yourself do not build a gambling haven without getting the licensed, you will be nailed so hard you will start regretting it, I believe that casinos do not need to reveal their identity because of the business they are running, if you can think about it very well they are very vulnerable to differs types of crimes if their identity is revealed.

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They have a option to not complete their KYC to built a new casino, why does they need to complete the KYC without any benefit? lol. I believe the owner or the team of the casino ever submitted their KYC on elsewhere because almost people in this world can't become 100% anonymous, at least they've made a mistake in the past.

Casino is already popular without showing the team behind the casino, after all knowing the team who create the casino doesn't really make the casino is trustworthy, just look at shitcoin scam projects.

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Quote from: decodx on January 24, 2023, 05:16:58 PM

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Quote from: Yogee on January 22, 2023, 05:59:10 PM

It will probably help since this sounds more like a marketing stunt to me. You have to ask if it is worth risking the security of the owners in revealing their identity over the "fairness on KYC". I'm thinking of a $5 wrench attack if a gambler is near the area of the owner.

$5 wrench attack on the casino owner? For what? It's not like they're walking around with the casino's entire bankroll in their pocket. And let's be real, all physical business owners handling large sums of cash are in the same boat.

You never know what people desperate for money thinks. Have you not heard or read anything about those people attacked because they own some crypo? They are not even rich or own a significant amount. It may not be a $5 wrench attack against these casino owners but the danger remains when their personal info is known.

I don't know. I still believe that transparency and accountability are important principles for any business, and hiding behind anonymity can breed mistrust and suspicion. While it's true that there is always a potential for danger when personal information is known, the fact is that these types of attacks and threats are relatively rare. And I still disagree that the owners of cryptocurrency casinos would be in any more danger than the owners of traditional casinos and other physical businesses. And besides, we have laws and police to protect them, it's not like we live in the wild west.

Maybe for security reasons, business owners feel no need to reveal their identity to the public and they can instruct their subordinates or someone from their team to take care of the business while the business owner is behind the business taking care of other things. We can see from the owners of several large businesses that we don't know who the business owners really are, but they have done KYC to the local regulators. So this possibility will also apply to business owners on the internet. We don't know who owns the business but they have submitted documents to the regulators.

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