Topic: Dragon Knights of Valeria - Get paid to play! BTC/LTC/HTML5/HYPER/GP/MOON/RBIES - page 30. (Read 59325 times)

Part 1 of the second video has been uploaded, the second part will be ready later tonight.

View it at https://youtu.be/qe9uS1miD5c and as above please let me know your thoughts on it.

I'll be starting a sort of Let's Play for DKV on youtube that will hopefully give new players an easier way to learn how to play without having to read a lot of guides.

The first video is already up and can be viewed at https://youtu.be/2XcbLfRUZAI, let me know what you think.

Agreed, this is looking good.  Especially the idea of a new Skills system.

I like the roadmap, the skills tree and achievements system sound awesome. Good to see what your plans are. Keep it up =)

When I finish working out the details I'll PM you with it and be glad of any feedback pro or con. It doesn't require any action on your part, actually. You've actually provided all the tools (tipping system, logfiles and so forth) that I needed. I'm hoping to make it a win-win-win that is good both for me and the other players, and creates excitement and increases interest in the game which works out for you. For several reasons I will not be implementing it for several weeks while I prepare some things so there's no rush at any rate.

I'm interested in what the contest would be, let me know when you have it thought up and ready to go and I'll see if it is something I could implement.

OK, cool! I think this will not be such a big issue then, as I expect most of my contestants will be those who don't currently care much about their honor score or holding land outside the scope of the little contest I have planned... :-)

All good, was a minor mistake and the game should be going again.

! Something just broke. On both my phone and laptop every attempt I make to navigate within or log into DKV is returning this message:

You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ''EnderWiggin' at line 1

Hope this is not a serious issue...

1. Honor isn't factored into outpost fights, only kingdom fights. You won't gain or lose honor from these.
2. There isn't a negative bonus for honor, the lowest you can go is 1x multiplier. However, if you do go below 0 honor then you will have to win more and more fights to get your honor back to where it can help you.
3. Should be answered by #2.

With kingdom fights only allowing you to attack one player per hour it can be really hard to get honor back up into the positive area. If you have -50 honor from fights lost then it will take you a minimum of 50 hours to get back to 0 if you attack a players kingdom every hour on the hour and win. This is why it has a really bad impact on your kingdom fights as it can take you a long time to get a bonus of your own to help protect your kingdom or take out someone elses.

Hmm, that's too bad. This leads to a few more questions.

1. Is honor factored into Outpost battles?
2. Is negative honor on the same scale as positive honor (i.e., -10/-25/-50 pts. for -10%, -30% and -50% strength?)
3. Just as the positive honor bonus can't go beyond +50%, is there a maximum honor penalty, beyond which things can't get worse?

I've been working on a contest idea I was thinking of sponsoring within the game, and negative honor kind of throws a monkey wrench into it by penalizing participants beyond/after the scope of the contest. But it is what it is, I suppose.

Thanks,
EnderWiggin

Not a problem, most of the game has been built off of suggestions from players so far and I don't have any plans on stopping doing that.

I used to work as the head of the game mods department for a game company that had millions of players so I had backstage access to the dev team and support team that players didn't have and even then the developers wouldn't listen to what I had to say. Not even when they asked me to test new features for their games. As a result, most of their games died or had little support once the 'newness' of it wore off.

As you can imagine, it is pretty frustrating when someone asks for your advice and doesn't really care about it or doesn't pay any attention to what their players want. But, from this experience grew what you see now. A dev that listens to what people want even though they might not always get it

Awesome changes - thanks for that CryptoDatabase - The experience changes will help tremendously - and add a new edge to the game.

Good to know about the negative honour, didn't realise that it could impact the fighting abilities. I'll have to watch that in the future.

Again, thanks for keeping the game upto date and listening to your users. I hope it has some positive impact on HTML5 coin =)

I have added the experience suggestion to the outposts, you will now get 5 experience per troop that you kill regardless of the battle results. You will also gain this experience if your outpost is attacked while having defenders there.

Outposts are constantly being taken with roughly 4,000 in game already. A lot of people put their outposts out in distant lands that aren't easy or quick to walk to and since they don't show up on the map they are fairly safe.

This new addition might change that and people might start making outposts closer to towns and village clusters to get the defense experience.

Hope this helped improve the outposts.


It is possible to go negative which has a really bad impact on your fighting capabilities, I wouldn't recommend letting it fall that low though.

Thanks for the answers on my questions above. Just one quick question this time (for an idea fermenting in my head)... is it possible for Honor to go negative? Or does it just go to 0 and then stay there if a person keeps losing?

Touching onto that, could we also get some Exp from killing units stationed by the Dark Wizard at an Outpost? The immensely delayed RoI on resources is already a large deterrent, and I've only seen 2 players other than myself (so far) who holds Outposts. If we get even a little Exp from attacking an Outpost, then people might start attacking them even if they don't intend to seize them. That will make the game more dynamic as we see smaller players farming Outposts for Exp, while larger players fight each other over Outposts left with severely lowered defenses. The number of defenders stationed by the Dark Wizard on Outposts can be further increased as a compromise. I don't know. It sounds like a good idea and a bad idea at the same time. Just something to consider, maybe?

1. Tactics used to be a factor in kingdom fights but I disabled it so now it is just a stat. Honor is an attack/defense multiplier that will help you fight. The bonus you get from this is displayed in the kingdom fights page.

2. You gain/lose honor and tactics from fighting. If you win then you will gain honor, if you lose then you will lose it.

3. The multiplier for honor increases at 10, 25, and 50 so if you have over 50 honor then you don't have to worry about losing fights until you go below 50 to obtain the best bonus you can.

4. The only limits for kingdom fighting relates to levels and land owned. Clan members can attack other clan members but this might cause issues within the clan so I wouldn't recommend it.

In reference to the outposts, Rimuru is basically on the right mark. Gold is very easy to obtain. The reason I made the outposts have a lengthy return is to force players to defend them in order to see that return instead of just running around the map and taking outpost after outpost with little cost.

I'd like to request a Guide topic on the DKV forum be written to cover the topic of Land combat. Of course, a response here would also be fine and appreciated. I haven't been able to find any info on this topic and can't puzzle much of it out on my own.

In particular, I have the following questions:

1. What is the difference between the Tactics and Honor scores? I understand that Honor provides a strength bonus to the troops, does the Tactics score do anything?

2. Do you get Honor or Tactics points if you lose a battle? Or do you lose points if you lose a battle? (I've never lost and am not about to start now, so I'm curious.)

3. What are the breakpoints at which you increase your Honor multiplier and by how much?

4. Can clan members attack each other?

The guide should also cover the rules about needing to be within 1/2 to 2X the level of your target, targets must have at least 1/2 of your own acreage, and so on.

Thanks for any insight!,
EnderWiggin

I see what you're getting at, but I'm calculating it differently for the sake of convenience. I'm only calculating the cost in resources and ignoring all costs in gold. That seems like a shortsighted approach at first glance, but gold comes so easily, and I barely notice the passing of time since I can't play as consistently as I would prefer to.

Using the numbers that you gave above, my method of calculation (ignoring gold costs) would amount to such:

8540 soldiers x 4 resources each = 34160 resources invested
34160 resources invested - 8540 resources instantly harvestable = 25620 resources
25620 resources invested / 10 resources per hour = 2562 hours to recover investment -> 106.75 days before RoI

Granted, that's higher than the average amount I've seen on the few samples of Lv 5 Outposts that I've seen (not that I've seen a lot), but it's still not bad, especially considering that the current meta prolly has less than 5 players overall constantly monitoring Outposts. In fact, you can prolly hold an Outpost for that long without anyone else noticing. I've held about 3-4 unguarded for almost 2 weeks without anyone noticing. Since those are mostly Lv 1 Outposts, I'm quite close to recovering my resources invested on them.

All in all, it's easier to recover your resource investment against Lv 1 Outposts. There are also fewer players who'd bother to antagonize you over them if you're higher-leveled or belong to a large clan.

Having said all that, I must remind you that I don't take gold costs into consideration. If you do (as you should), then you'll never make RoI for a long time. Meanwhile, those already holding Outposts are gradually breaking even as we speak.

P.S. I wouldn't mind getting some decent Exp from attacking Outposts though.

Character Name: Rimuru

EDIT: Please also note that Lv 1 Outposts can have as few as 300 total defenders. I've even seen a rare Lv 4 Outpost with about 1500 total defenders. I don't know if those are poorly defended because they have been attacked prior to me finding them, but no attacks have landed on them since, so I have to assume otherwise. By "shopping around", it becomes easier to get an RoI on the resources that you invested on soldiers. As for the gold cost, well, you'll most likely recover that too if you don't lose your Outpost early on.