Topic: Drug free in the Philippines - page 52. (Read 77887 times)

I do believe that he just wants to fix the mess caused by previous politicians.
I like his visions, but his way of making things right isn't right.
He is regardless on his word but attentive on the plan he wants to do.
I do believe in his strength and vision looking forward for better change.

Terrorism and drug campaign are two different things. Who said that he is a bad leader tho? He is actually too good and that is the reason why those corrupt politicians are too afraid of him and wanted him out of his position.




We can see that is very willing to resolve those issue but if we are going to ask the other parties then that would be a far different story.

I don't know whether he will be able to resolve the Muslim insurgency in Mindanao, as there are a lot of external factors in play there (such as terrorist funding from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait). But if he is able to convince the CPP–NPA–NDF in to a ceasefire, then it will be a great start. Look at Colombia. The peace agreement with the FARC has done wonders there.

Please try to research his achievements this past months not just relying on your biased media for information if you claim that he is terrible running the country then there would be already riots and chaos occuring.

He is in the procedure to make the country whole by trying to have an agreement with the pro-communist and Muslims to end these pointless bloody fights and also plans of development for the country if he was a bad leader why would China, Japan, and Korea help in funding & aiding in the development of the Philppines after Duterte talked to them.

How you can be sure that all those who are killed are drug dealers? Corrupt cops can kidnap anyone they don't like, and then they can kill him and dump his body somewhere. Later, they can claim that the individual was a drug dealer and he was killed in an encounter with the police.

Many drug users where killed during police entrapment/operations. Police asset will do the drug trade of a suspected drug pusher/user. If the deal was made the police outside will go inside that building to arrest the suspect. But when the suspects notice that the one they have been dealing with was an asset they try to fight because they don't want to be caught. I remember President Duterte once said "If you saw a drug user/pusher arrest them. But if they fight back and threaten your lives(referring to all police) then fight back and shoot/kill them." (not exact word but more likely).

The other killings(The one with a message "I'm a drug pusher" etc....) was the doings of drug lords/gov't officials who was into business with this. They don't want to reveal their identity because they are know to the society thats why they hired someone to kill their lower members for them to stay hidden in drug issue.
All I have to say is that don't really rely on media(specially here in Philippines...one is ABS-CBN) because they really twist the real story.

how about the drug dealers who spreads a scourge to the society ? actually people don't want this type of action where the government authorities kills people who suspected as a drug addict for example no one wants this to happen without any trials for sure and speaking of human rights when there are indigent people who are abused and didn't made any offense or crime they are missing in action and when there so many drug addicts, dealers that are being killed they are making an action and a complaints against the administration . anyway you are right that these criminals that you have mentioned needs to be eliminated from the society .

I somewhat agree with your post. Human life is very precious, and ideally, the state must refrain from killing humans. That said, if the individual poses a threat to the society, then the state has every right to exterminate him. Murderers, rapists, pedophiles, home invaders.etc must be eliminated from the society.

lol . I think that was not the real purpose why they killed those drug addicts there are many reasons behind this, maybe the authorities actually killed them because these drug suspects tried to fight back against the authorities, and there could be a possibility that they killed these drug suspects because some of the members of authorities are involved to the illegal drug trade and they don't want these drug suspects to be chased by the PNP and be forced to give an information that can specify those drug lords and their protectors .

I really believe that the president of the Philippines can do it because as for the news his really strict on drug dealers and drug users he even caught drug lords he is one wise president in the country of Philippines many had been raped and killed by drug users or drug addict that's why the president of the Philippines has to end the drug from the Philippines to stop the innocent killing but i don't know the killing of drug users because its not exactly what a president would do but correct me if i am wrong but still his a good president that keeps his word to his people now only he clear out drugs but he will be clearing the bad this in the Philippines by his strictness if you would correct me please do that's the information that i known

The combination of moral clarity and moral panic just happens to lead to the conclusion at which Filipinos wanted to arrive: that the best and most Final Solution to their problem of poverty is simply to fuck all the poor people to death.

Duterte and his followers lack the humanity and intelligence required to understand why Prohibition fails.  I mean just look at him, he's the fucking Missing Link.   

But they will continue the moral preening, virtue signaling, and state sponsored mass murder until the externalities of that approach overwhelm the Holy Warriors and they begin the long march out of their own asses.

I do not like the fact that they kill people. And even more I do not like the fact that it is done without a trial. Where to watch the international organization for the protection of human rights? So you can not do. It does not matter who they are. This - the people and they have a right to life and a fair trial

It is very difficult to answer who uses drugs, or poor Bhagat. The fact that they make it unique. And the fact that all use them regardless of social status in society.

Sick people need medical/psychiatric help right? Not to be slaughtered?

What do you guys thinks about the new trend of hitmen/women being paid to gun down people in the street for money, because their target were claimed to be drug users/dealers? These hitmen/women are paid by government agencies (by proxy) or simply gang members who want competitive dealers out of the way with no hassle.

Can you understand that this vigilante hitman movement is a simple knock on effect of Duterte's attitude toward drugs, and is totally unregulated (many innocents are killed this way)? Would you like to live in a place where people are being paid to slaughter their fellow citizens in the street?

Blame it this muck traders because they trade in death, and drug addicts are sick people.

To clarify, I think Duterte has some of the worst combinations of personality traits in a leader. He seems intolerant, ignorant, mean and arrogant. He seems like a terrible person to be running a country.

On the other hand, I can see why he has popularity in the country - The Philipines has a very serious drug problem, and to the average voter, Duterte's strategy of "Killing all the drug users and vendors in cold blood" seems like a good idea. After all, it's an efficient way of ridding the country of the drug problem, right?

Wrong.

Pretty much all modern research suggest that severe drug problems are a symptom of societal issues. There will undoubtably be reasons why so many people in the Philipines use and sell meth, for example, the main one being that there aren't many other ways of making good money. The leaders of countries need to start tackling the underlying social issues that cause the symptoms of drug addiction, rather than just trying to kill everyone involved. To a lesser extent, the same could be said of Western countries (UK/US etc) than imprison individuals for drug possession (Yeah, they're not killing them, but they are locking them up for victimless crimes).

His tactics have huge problems, one of the most obvious being that innocent people can be shot in cold blood, then framed as drug users (with no real evidence apart from a hand written sign on their corpse telling people they took drugs... yeah sounds legit  ). Another problem is that his violent massacre is taking out users as well as dealers.

While I wouldn't even condone the assassination of dealers, assassinating users/addicts just seems like an incredibly fucking medieval thing to be doing in this day and age. Morally, what have these people done wrong? They haven't hurt anyone, stolen anything, yet because they choose to partake in drug use they are sentenced to death? These people need fucking HELP, not to be shot in a motorcycle driveby by a hitman, accepting money indirectly from the government (yes this really is happening, saw a documentary interviewing hitmen/women that were doing exactly this...)

Duterte sounds like he's on the way to becoming another Pol Pot or Hitler, simply dictating his own narrative with a closed mind, and with little empathy or understanding towards the citizens he's killing.

I think they are just doing to kill those drug addicted just to fear the others if not continue to kill honestly many drug addicts in my place are actually changing instead of they are going outside in the mid night they are seeping early just a normal people and i think duterte is doing a good job.. also corruption is always the problem that we need to fix this issue.. than drugs it is just a normal that we need to help filipino to caught all those drug lords if source are gone it is impossible that those drug addict and pusher can be still buy drugs ..

Actually in the first place the state are fighting for control of drug trafficking and revenues. Therefore, I have little confidence in the fact that the government will fight against drugs and to do so to their own detriment.

A drug free Philippines is actually achievable but I dont see it happening any time soon the reason being that its a fundamental issue that have festered for too long which will take as much time it took to develop to this level to eradicate and in addition to other issues that needs to be tackle along side this social menace in the society. The fact that the current President is working assiduously to tackle this, what will happen if he leaves power and if he decides to stay he will be forced out. Then what will happen to the campaign of eradicating drugs?

People, we need to think about the problems together, not just activists. Because I do not believe that the authorities can rectify the situation with drug trafficking in the country. It is a sorrow for everyone.