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Quote from: zero1ten on December 05, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

This on-going drug war by the government of the Philippines is bound to fail, simply because you can not prevent crime by killing and creating another crime. They should learn what happened to other countries who did launch a war on drugs but miserably fail.

That's true. I'm wondering why no one ever wants to learn from the past mistakes? Any war calls for another war and there is no end to this. The only solution is a civilized method to deal with it: do not punish the drug users and find an effective way to explain to others how bad drugs are for them.

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Quote from: grim007 on December 05, 2016, 02:08:28 AM

Quote from: zero1ten on December 05, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

This on-going drug war by the government of the Philippines is bound to fail, simply because you can not prevent crime by killing and creating another crime. They should learn what happened to other countries who did launch a war on drugs but miserably fail.

So what is your suggestion? Just keep the old way and just ignore the increasing volume of drugs that manufacturing in the country? The drug addicts are just killed because they are fighting back when they are arresting, And i think the extra judicial killing that happening is not made by the government, it is made by the Boss of that people that been slaughtered so that they will not testify against them. I think the drug war is effective because people in the Philippines gained fear on dealing with drugs. Only people involves on drugs/ their families are against on this drug war. Imagine china and other rich country has a death penalty on drugs abuse so how do you conclude that it will not work for just killing criminal.

How can this drug war be effective if your creating another crime? So how do you address now the hundreds of murderers roaming the street? As you said those EJKs are not by the government, so aren't you bother so many people are dying without justice? How can you know if all those peole are guilty or innocent if they are already dead? My suggestion is for the government to simple just follow the rule of law and stop promoting the killings.

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Quote from: zero1ten on December 05, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

This on-going drug war by the government of the Philippines is bound to fail, simply because you can not prevent crime by killing and creating another crime. They should learn what happened to other countries who did launch a war on drugs but miserably fail.

So what is your suggestion? Just keep the old way and just ignore the increasing volume of drugs that manufacturing in the country? The drug addicts are just killed because they are fighting back when they are arresting, And i think the extra judicial killing that happening is not made by the government, it is made by the Boss of that people that been slaughtered so that they will not testify against them. I think the drug war is effective because people in the Philippines gained fear on dealing with drugs. Only people involves on drugs/ their families are against on this drug war. Imagine china and other rich country has a death penalty on drugs abuse so how do you conclude that it will not work for just killing criminal.

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This on-going drug war by the government of the Philippines is bound to fail, simply because you can not prevent crime by killing and creating another crime. They should learn what happened to other countries who did launch a war on drugs but miserably fail.

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Quote from: lilit on December 05, 2016, 12:36:42 AM

Weapons and drugs has always been the foundation of the black market, and as a rule it is the state controlled the market. I do not think that the authorities of any country will fight against these phenomena in full force. Most likely they have their own strategy, so as not to hurt yourself.

What are you trying to say? Your opinion is even irrelevant and not related to the topic.

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Weapons and drugs has always been the foundation of the black market, and as a rule it is the state controlled the market. I do not think that the authorities of any country will fight against these phenomena in full force. Most likely they have their own strategy, so as not to hurt yourself.

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Quote from: epitome on November 30, 2016, 05:47:02 PM

So are they killing all the drug dealers to clean the city

what a horrible situation and how is the situation over their as there is news that the presidents security team have been injured after their convoy was hit by an explosive device.

How can you be sure that all those who lost their lives are drug dealers? I am certain that a large number of those who were killed had nothing to do with drugs. The vigilantes are using this situation, to murder anyone they don't like.

The man has not learned to appreciate life nor his or someone else. While it does not recognize, we will always be problems with drugs and other things against the life of man.

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Quote from: epitome on November 30, 2016, 05:47:02 PM

So are they killing all the drug dealers to clean the city

what a horrible situation and how is the situation over their as there is news that the presidents security team have been injured after their convoy was hit by an explosive device.

How can you be sure that all those who lost their lives are drug dealers? I am certain that a large number of those who were killed had nothing to do with drugs. The vigilantes are using this situation, to murder anyone they don't like.

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Quote from: Hung_Daddy on November 30, 2016, 03:11:01 AM

To be honest I have no idea what you were trying to say OP. Can someone reword that or translate it for me?

what is reword ,he is boasting about the recent fight against drugs in the Philippines.

Quote from: zikel on November 30, 2016, 12:58:45 PM

The fact that these extrajudicial killings - is a violation of human rights and freedoms. After all, no one knows it kills drug dealers or simple innocent people who do not like it

So are they killing all the drug dealers to clean the city

what a horrible situation and how is the situation over their as there is news that the presidents security team have been injured after their convoy was hit by an explosive device.

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Quote from: Bitcoinsummoner on November 30, 2016, 01:44:01 PM

Well for me it is ok that they are killing those drug lords and drug dealers since it is oen of the root why other people are violated when they are using drugs.. and the other drug addict also doing many bad things.. that can push those drugs addiction to kill someone.. so for me for penalty of using drugs is death.. do you think those drug addicted and suspek will be still in heaven i think if they will die they will directly to hell..
And this is i think one of the main problem in our country..

Found the religious fanatic.

Wow much moral ~~clarity~~ panic; such superstition. Jesus wept. Embarrassed

Sorry you are too lazy and impatient to use the rule of law to achieve your goals, and demand the instant gratification of death squads.

Good luck with your delusion that the people being murdered are all "drug lords and drug dealers" when Duterte said he want to kill 3 million addicts as well.

Maybe if you pray to your magic sky god, he will grant you the miraculous power to defy the laws of economics and Make Prohibition Great Again.

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Quote from: zikel on November 30, 2016, 12:58:45 PM

The fact that these extrajudicial killings - is a violation of human rights and freedoms. After all, no one knows it kills drug dealers or simple innocent people who do not like it

Well for me it is ok that they are killing those drug lords and drug dealers since it is oen of the root why other people are violated when they are using drugs.. and the other drug addict also doing many bad things.. that can push those drugs addiction to kill someone.. so for me for penalty of using drugs is death.. do you think those drug addicted and suspek will be still in heaven i think if they will die they will directly to hell..
And this is i think one of the main problem in our country..

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Quote from: zikel on November 30, 2016, 12:58:45 PM

The fact that these extrajudicial killings - is a violation of human rights and freedoms. After all, no one knows it kills drug dealers or simple innocent people who do not like it

Where is the Pope? He should get off his golden throne and do something about Duterte culling the weak.

Send in the Jesuits, and stop the Filipinos from regressing back to their headhunter culture.

Where is Obama? He should get off the golf course and sick his regime change specialists on Duterte.

Send in Delta Force, throw him on a plane, and fly him to The Hague for the Milosevic treatment. Then shoot him at dawn.

Where is Jinping? If Red China wants to be the regional hegemon it's their responsibility to clean up messes like this.

Send in the PLA, take that shithole over, and run it like a business. Oh wait they already are doing that.... Grin

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The fact that these extrajudicial killings - is a violation of human rights and freedoms. After all, no one knows it kills drug dealers or simple innocent people who do not like it

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To be honest I have no idea what you were trying to say OP. Can someone reword that or translate it for me?

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Quote from: Narosya on November 28, 2016, 05:09:22 PM

Government forces killed at least 11 members of the rebel groups in the southern Philippines, who swore allegiance to the terrorist group Islamic State, also known as the ISIS, as reported by the military on Sunday, November 27th.

See, this is the problem. How many slum dwellers have been killed by the vigilantes during the last few weeks? The number is more than 3,000. Now take the number of ISIS extremists who have been killed. It is in two digits. Duterte should concentrate on wiping out the ISIS from Philippines, rather than massacring the slum dwellers.

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Quote from: popcorn1 on November 28, 2016, 05:58:42 PM

Quote from: electronicash on November 28, 2016, 01:56:54 PM

Forget about the whole argument here. but let's check the fact before we all get carried away.. Has any of you ever see DUTERTE kill someone? If not then I guess he still is not involve to all these extra judicial killings that we all got carried away.

See dumb humans from the jungle Wink

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Duterte: I must admit I have killed - YouTube
Video for DUTERTE admits to killing people▶ 1:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_FyB8vhevY
27 Oct 2015 - Uploaded by Rappler
Duterte: I must admit I have killed. 3 months early on, I killed what – 3 people? Full story: http://rplr.co ..

Philippine mayor admits links to death squads - YouTube
Video for DUTERTE admits to killing people▶ 3:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw...
25 May 2015 - Uploaded by Leaked News
Manila, Philippines - A Filipino mayor has admitted having links to a "death ... Mayor Rodrigo Duterte is .

Duterte: I killed 1,700 not 700 - YouTube
Video for DUTERTE admits to killing people▶ 0:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs4VHNH6r58
8 Dec 2015 - Uploaded by Rappler
Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte says his critics miscalculated the number of people he killed. He says it

YOU SURE ARE STUPID Cheesy

..I never said he killed people HE DID Wink

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i have killed someone as well. I just said it and admitted. but in order for you to bring me to court and stand trial, you will have to prove it still that i killed someone. Thats how it works. so even if someone admittedly said he murdered someone. its still has to be proven.

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Quote from: popcorn1 on November 28, 2016, 05:58:42 PM

Quote from: electronicash on November 28, 2016, 01:56:54 PM

Forget about the whole argument here. but let's check the fact before we all get carried away.. Has any of you ever see DUTERTE kill someone? If not then I guess he still is not involve to all these extra judicial killings that we all got carried away.

See dumb humans from the jungle Wink

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Duterte: I must admit I have killed - YouTube
Video for DUTERTE admits to killing people▶ 1:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_FyB8vhevY
27 Oct 2015 - Uploaded by Rappler
Duterte: I must admit I have killed. 3 months early on, I killed what – 3 people? Full story: http://rplr.co ..

Philippine mayor admits links to death squads - YouTube
Video for DUTERTE admits to killing people▶ 3:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw...
25 May 2015 - Uploaded by Leaked News
Manila, Philippines - A Filipino mayor has admitted having links to a "death ... Mayor Rodrigo Duterte is .

Duterte: I killed 1,700 not 700 - YouTube
Video for DUTERTE admits to killing people▶ 0:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs4VHNH6r58
8 Dec 2015 - Uploaded by Rappler
Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte says his critics miscalculated the number of people he killed. He says it

YOU SURE ARE STUPID Cheesy

..I never said he killed people HE DID Wink

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Actually you just have to tell people to look and follow Rapeller because they are anti-Duterte ever since just like most local and international media. They even provide news that are fabricated and misleading. For a person that follows Philippine happenings you should know that Duterte usually throws jokes that dumbass media and haters take it seriously. Pathetic. Cheesy

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Quote from: electronicash on November 28, 2016, 01:56:54 PM

Forget about the whole argument here. but let's check the fact before we all get carried away.. Has any of you ever see DUTERTE kill someone? If not then I guess he still is not involve to all these extra judicial killings that we all got carried away.

See dumb humans from the jungle Wink

..
Duterte: I must admit I have killed - YouTube
Video for DUTERTE admits to killing people▶ 1:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_FyB8vhevY
27 Oct 2015 - Uploaded by Rappler
Duterte: I must admit I have killed. 3 months early on, I killed what – 3 people? Full story: http://rplr.co ..

Philippine mayor admits links to death squads - YouTube
Video for DUTERTE admits to killing people▶ 3:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw...
25 May 2015 - Uploaded by Leaked News
Manila, Philippines - A Filipino mayor has admitted having links to a "death ... Mayor Rodrigo Duterte is .

Duterte: I killed 1,700 not 700 - YouTube
Video for DUTERTE admits to killing people▶ 0:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs4VHNH6r58
8 Dec 2015 - Uploaded by Rappler
Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte says his critics miscalculated the number of people he killed. He says it

YOU SURE ARE STUPID Cheesy

..I never said he killed people HE DID Wink

..

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Government forces killed at least 11 members of the rebel groups in the southern Philippines, who swore allegiance to the terrorist group Islamic State, also known as the ISIS, as reported by the military on Sunday, November 27th.

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