Topic: DT everyone? cryptoji.net agency cheating translators from the forum - page 2. (Read 1874 times)

Save the indignation. You fucked up, now you are suffering the consequences. You don't get to dictate or make any demands, you lost that right the moment you violated the contracts and more so when you ignored the community request for your side of the story. You forced community involvement and resolution of this issue, now we are here commanding YOU.

Pay ALL translators, NOW, an IN FULL. You don't get to make any demands. At this point you will be lucky to salvage your reputation after this is over. You had plenty of opportunity to make your case and you decided to blow the whole community who you depend on off. You fucked up, now deal with the consequences, or shut down your project and leave because those are your options.

If you pay all the translators accordingly, this thread is nothing subjective to harm your reputation. As per the previous post, you already have received 75% of the payment. Then what has restricted you not paying the translators? Why this thread must be deleted after half payment, if you settle down the problem, the topic will contain zero value.

https://imgur.com/a/57U5qmU

Look if I wanted to scam you all , why I am talking to you  now ? I did not get your point , I dont know what you wanna reach from all this endless discussion , You wanna get paid ? you want to approve you are right ? I said sorry was wrong , I did not treat things as It should be , I said sorry multiple time , I am over all this now . I proposed a solution , waiting for confirmation , Half payment will be sent first , this thread deleted. all the accusations should be removed , second half payment received , cut this out. I understand you anger and your point , but what happened happened , I am sorry and am over it , This is my last msg here.

I translated epic cash wp i was contacted by your CEO Ramzi to do the translation,
after that i start DM Ramzi for payment but he did not replay me back, I talk to Epic Cash team as I am doing community work for them and I told them I need the agency translation to pay for my work, so the team when they send you 2400$ they ask you to pay me.
in my DM to you I ask you to pay other translators but I am not sure how many translator you pay.
Pls Pay people for the work they do.

you say you will solve this and pay but I cant see any progress.  

I give positive feed at Trust summary base in the fact that you pay me and base in the what you told me, that you will pay other people ,
I will delete this and not give any feed until you pay all.

Facts I know:
  


1.  Each wp you charge 400usd

2.before work you receive deposit half pay.  (23*200= approximate 4600 usd)

3. after mainnet you receive 2400 usd.  and that when team ask you to pay me.

so You receive 75% pay of the translation work you did for Epic.  

pls. pay the translators.





 

Why don't you share what happened in detail? You said this topic has cost you a lot, but if you shared what's going around, if you would respond here with logical arguments, I doubt all this things would happen. Rather you choose the more complex way to solve it.

That's not how this works. You don't get to leverage payments you already agreed to to force people to remove ratings for you. YOU are in breech of contract first, thus you hold all the liabilities. In fact everyone who made translations at this point doesn't even owe you corrections because you owe them payment for the violated contract but they are released form all of its obligations under the law. You had plenty of time to make your case to the community but you instead opted to threaten users behind the scenes and try to bully them into favorable resolutions for yourself. You are only digging your hole deeper. Pay EVERYONE 100%. Once that is done I will be happy to personally advocate for people removing your ratings. You aren't in charge any more. You failed to manage your project properly then ignored the communities demands you explain yourself. Now once you realized there was a price to be paid for doing this now you want to pretend to cooperate, but still actually just continue to dictate terms. No. You make it right or your reputation here will forever carry those marks. You let this get so far out of hand the community had to get involved, you aren't in charge any more, now you get to take orders or live with the consequences of your actions. Choose which you prefer.

Maybe you can explain what happened more in details ?

Hello yes I receive my payment and I hope he pay for all the translators if he did not pay i will remove the positive feedback .
why I am paid is Coz he still has some fund with Epic cash team , i do not know how much but I am a community manager in EPIC Cash and he was instructed by the team to pay me for the translation.
 

TXID = B20ED549EEBBB4831C5FFFF9200E9EC329BAFD5EF8E07166015248D2BEC1FF8D
Address= bnb136ns6lfw4zs5hg4n85vdthaad7hq5m4gtkgf23   
Memo = 107448883
Amount = 11.46

I am OK with receiving half payment this month and half payment by December 2019. My ETH address is with ChiNgadOr already.

That's IRONY.
cyramji is paying selectively who didn't stand against them? Or it's a fake feedback?
It's really stupid that cyramji still didn't pay and trying to defend his mistakes. In my early contract which I didn't accept though, he said me to pay December. But it seems the contract was different for different users.
Jatawneh is arabic translator, I had talked with him regarding Epic Cash and at some point he said me cyramji hasn't paid yet. It was September 25 probably and the feedback is from October. If he can get paid, what's wrong with others?

Yeah, you are cautious, for that, I give you credit.

Since you are very cautious in choosing words, let's get more clarity on what you have proposed
When is this exactly, this year? next year? or are you even planning to pay?
Clearing what? you mean clearing the mess in your room or the mess you had done to the translators by using cautious word selection.
So by December, you mean December 2019 or December 2100?


Why don't you cut your shitty excuses and start paying the translators to get the flag dropped. Btw, it was funny to see that Jatawneh has left you a positive feedback a few days back. I have pmed him to share his story here with payment details.

You are lying and I’m have evidence from the correspondence in telegram.
Here is a screenshot of your message.
    MAYBE SUNDAY WOULD BE A MAX DATE FOR PAYMENT   



My words are confirmed by another translator who works for you.


By our agreement, you were supposed to pay on Sunday, 15 September.

But instead, you disappeared and stopped responding to messages that the words of other translators prove here. Or do they also lie or didn’t understand something?

The work was perfectly done, and in correspondence with those who ordered translate from you(epiccash team), there was confirmation of this great work.

You should have paid, but you did not. Stop deceiving everyone here that you are innocent. The flag will be removed only if you pay all translators and not a minute earlier.
If moderators read here, check out the reviews, as well as screenshots.

Stop trying to justify yourself and your worthless translation shitty agency.

You deceived the translators and when you were caught in the ass, you disappeared like a coward who crap in his pants  
Haven’t seen such a shameful obedience in this forum for a long time, sure that after such a deception no one will work with you.

You have earned several negative reviews at once.

There is a differnet between "after work approved" and 'after completion" , I think it is obivious for everyone , you did not asked for more details and we were very cautions in choosing our words , we have received more than 10 scam translations only for the same whitepaper you worked on , how can you expect us to pay for something not approved by a native speaker , ? (I am not accusing your work quality here)

You can search for the legal meaning of word "approved",

Another time , for everyone who claim a scam , for the moderators they gave us Red flag , we are here to solve the problem,,,

In our agreement with him were the payment dates, immediately after the completion of work.
The work was done perfectly, which means that payment was already due.
But almost two months passed and nothing happened.

I am ready to divide his payment into two parts, just like you, but only if escrow from this forum will be involved.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recommended-bitcointalk-escrow-services-2439910

Too many agreements were not fulfilled that only escrow from the forum can guarantee the honest execution of all translations.
Let's wait for what the other translators will say who also paid nothing for doing work.

P.S- The fact that he finally came to open conversation on the forum is already pleasing.

Another time , waiting for the solution to aproved by moderators ,,,

I think choosing not to answer to translators is the reason of this thread. You could have answered to prevent such a thing from happening.
One month of silence, few posts on the main thread and then finally this thread. It's not like he suddenly decided to post it here.

Even right now, I asked you on telegram when can I expect to receive the first half of the money, and you didn't answer that too. I don't know why it's so hard to answer simple questions.

Once again waiting for confirmations to start distributing the payment , the contract was (when work approved ) , you work has not been approved neither b our side nor by the project team side. and till now no single proofreader approve it . It was an emergency to publish it on the website because of main net early launch date , read the contract again ' after work approved".We did not break any contract with you . As I said all professional translators from this forum are working with us for more than a year , check the reputation thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptojinet-1-crypto-translation-agency-for-over-20-languages-5123354.
You dont have the right to claim a scam without a proof , if you cant unedrstand what "after work approved" , that is your problem . 20 translators are fine to get their payment on december , 11 translators  are assumed to get paid after work approved , after the project team said ok someone reviewed it and the work is good ,this is the contract . we were about to pay you without work approved as I contacted you on sunday  , the scam accusation comes and everything is damaged ,

We can hire a lawyer to check the telegram msg to see if the contract has been broken or not , there is no single specific date . The damage your thread caused to us is more than you can afford to pay ,

Again we offer a middle solution to solve the problem and close everything , we are not relying on this forum to get the neither clients and we never got a client from this forum , the work is going fine but the translators from this forum they worked with us will lose a lot since the projects we worked on for tokens refused to pay them untill everythig is cleared. This red flag wont affect us as much as it will affect the translators.

I already thought you won’t write. Why did you wait so long to give your answer, although I wrote to you to give an answer here?  

Once again, we had a payment agreement IMMEDIATELY after the translation completed.

And as soon as I completed it, you disappeared and did not answer.
And if I had not created this topic, then probably you would not have answered?

The fact that you agreed with SOMEONE about paying in December is your agreement with THEM.

With ME, the contract was for payment immediately after the work done(and this can be seen in the screenshots in the first message), and you did not fulfill it  

You have my eth address for translation, as well as the addresses of all those who completed the work but never received payment for it  

You didn’t pay anyone, and that’s why the administration made the flags.

As you are the CEO of the translation, it would be better to hear it from you the real reason for the lack of communication with the translators once the work is completed rather than from another translator.

There wouldn't be a reputation thread, if you had just honestly answered  the private messages of the translators. The thread is result of ignoring and threatening the translators. Anyways, it's a good start that you have decided to pay the translators.

This was not the original agreement. Initially, I was told that the payment will be done on work approval in ETH by ChiNgad0r. So when I contacted you regarding the payments on finding my translation uploaded on the Epic Cash Website , you said that you'll be paying me and other translators in USDC on Sunday (15th September 2019). After which there has been no response from you until now. How long are you planning to feed fall hopes to your translators? Why don't you give an exact date by which we can receive the payment.

I can't speak on behalf of other translators but yeah I'm ok with receiving half of the payment before 31st October 2019 and the other half before 31st December 2019.