Topic: DT everyone? cryptoji.net agency cheating translators from the forum - page 4. (Read 1874 times)

He ignored it. I sent him this thread link also so now he can't claim to being unaware. He has been working since long but now finally has turned to scamming. Wasted my 2.5 days on translating those 6000+ words. Will now never work with people whom I know even if they are reputed. Money first or escrow.

Cyramji was online today and I bet he ignored your messages. He was clearly planning for an exit scam.

I believe that Epic Cash team were looking for several Asian languages for their whitepaper, so in order to close the deal he agreed to use escrow in the case of little mouse. He just invested 150$ to look credible, only to claim a larger sum from the Epic Cash team and leave other translators hanging.

The point is that if they wanted to scam from the start, they wouldn't even accept escrow but they did and fulfilled their commitment with one translator. They chose not to pay others with/without escrow.

My case is different, I have used escrow, Darkstar before the deal.
@ChingadOr
You have neg tagged me, it's not fair. I had misunderstood because cryptoji said you are the COO, retaliatory isn't a good one.
However, since there's no proof, I have removed my tag on your profile.

cyramji was online yesterday and still chose not to respond. I sent him a message today so if he doesn't respond still, I'll support the flag. Still it feels bad that he chose to pay one translator and not the others. What's wrong now?

We will wait for payments to ALL translators. Only after that the flag will be removed.
It is fair to everyone. As we all see here, there are already more than 6 people who have NOT been paid, and many have not written here yet.

You can just take a look and check that I did in the past many more translations that all of you together. (except Erikalui, hats off.. he is a champion!). I know how it feels to be left unpaid for a work, so I understand all of you, but you are shooting the messenger! I did the spanish translation and helped Cryptoji organizing translators to do the job. That is all. Don't try to be paranoid (like L. MOuse's conspiration theories about multiple accounts)or look for connections. If there is some expert in computers, I am sure he will find a way to check there are different persons here: ME and Cryptoji, and a third guy which I have never talked directly to, and I really don't know what which role  he played at all. The decision, about the money, the date, everything, is always decided by the company, not me. Do you know what that means? If you still don't understand, I will explain again, I am not the company but a worker like the rest.
Here you got the end of my conversation with Cryptoji, , where it is pretty clear that  last answer received from him, is dated on 7th september. Won't share his telegram of any personal info, and the rest of conversation will be only posted after dec 2019, when payment is supposed to be done. I still hope this is all about some missunderstanding, or Cryptoji is on holiday,  or busy with something else, and this gets finally fixed.

ps: if you think you wasted your time, you don't have any fu**ng idea how much time I lost (trasnaltion+organizing translators) and still keep loosing because of this. So you can bet there is NO ONE more interested than me in solving this shit. by the way, also upset of repeating that I am not CCO or have any other chief executive role in Cryptoji.

Considering that I was also planning to open scam accusation against Cryptoji, sorry for being late. I'll be short with my case.

I contacted @cryptoji based on this thread in Indian Marketplace (archived). While I contacted him I was directed to contact @ChiNgad0r for the translation details. @ChiNgad0r is the one who gave me the work details. I was told that payment will be after my work gets approved. I completed the Tamil translation of the EpicCash Whitepaper and submitted the work on 19th Aug 2019. Once I saw that my work was uploaded in the EpicCash official website, I contacted both @cryptoji and @ChiNgad0r regarding payments. But both were dodging the payments, thats when I came to know the Little Mouse was paid for his work. When I pressed the issue, Cryptoji agreed to pay me by Sunday (15 Sep 2019) and got my ETH address. Original agreement was that the payment will be in ETH, but he informed that he'll pay me in USDC considering the market volatility which I agreed to. But after that, there has been no reply from Cryptoji. Meanwhile, ChiNgad0r claimed that he is not aware of anything regarding the advance payments and only on 17 Sep 2019, he told me that the payment is scheduled in December. ChiNgad0r didn't care to tell me that the payment will be on Dec for every translator until then.

Important parts of chats:
Cryptoji


ChiNgad0r


BTW, I also tried to contact few other translators mentioned on cryptoji.net as their Chief translators, but none replied except erikalui. I wish they reply to this thread atleast.

To conclude, I believe that Cryptoji broke an agreement with the translators and ChiNgad0r(COO) also had a role in this scam accusation. If ChiNgad0r claims that he is also an innocent translator like us, let him prove by sharing the chats with his boss.

From my chat with ChiNgadOr:

https://i.imgur.com/OBGN7YM.jpg

My chat with Cryptoji:

https://i.imgur.com/F0JCSHs.jpg

Sorry, your story just isn't adding up. Best case this is extremely poor management. I would advise the following course of action, innocent or guilty.

1. Pay everyone here who has a claim.
2. Get this flag dropped (which I will support if you pay)
3. Write up a clear contract for future use that protects you from shitty translation, gives you options for corrections, and clearly details all payment terms, responsibilities, and time frames.

Even if you are being truthful, these issues are result of poor management on your part. Chock up the loss as a learning experience, salvage your reputation, and move forward using a solid contract agreement that protects you in the future.

Torn on this ChiNgadOr role in this fiasco. Will keep the original tag on the OPs claim and wait for more evidence vs the COO. If it comes out later that he is in fact the COO, tag will be readded and never removed.

Can anyone else confirm ChiNgadOr is a part of the team and not just another translator?

The contract was created at the same time when cryptoji agreed with OP about the payment here.

So, I think type 3 flag fits here.

I will support you with the redflag.
They are fools, we wanted to work with them.
Bottom line, they lost us as customers after this.

150-200$ are worth in order to crap your reputation cryptoji team?

I'm sorry for your damage.
I gave support.

Actually, in writing, there was a work order, and an estimate of the cost. I am not a lawyer, but what we see is a violation that falls under both paragraphs  In any case, the fact of violation not only in front of me but also in front of others is present. Three victims have already written in this thread alone.

I can understand that I was promised to be paid in December and please note that I trusted you when I accepted the translation and not cryptoji. I got to know about cryptoji being the translation agency responsible for Epic cash recently so if due to any reason I don't get paid for the work, I would be disappointed with you and your reputation too would be at stake, Sorry to say that. I don't know any Cryptoji or anyone but only you. I don't know who's right and who's wrong but here all the translators except one have been paid and if they don't, it clearly means we have been scammed. I hope you understand what I'm try to say.

@Chingad0r
You are not a translator, cryptoji has asked me to talk with you. Why? If you are nothing of the agency, why do I need to get confirmation from you? Because you are the owner of the agency, aka telegram cryptoji aka all of your boss cyramji. At some point, you tried to make me understand that you have a 3rd people on your team, but cryptoji admit that it's his alt account.

At some point when cryptoji asked me to contact with you and you again asked me to contact Ramzi, I was bored and denied the deal that I am bored with you.



And what did cryptoji said? Ramzi and cryptoji both are controlled by him.



I don't believe you. There's no cryptoji, cyramji or any other. It's you only.

Same here. Did the Farsi translation and it's on the Epic cash website, which means it's been approved by the epic cash team. Still not paid.
I talked to both Cryptoji and ChiNgad0r, sent the translation to Cryptoji and he said they will send the money after closing the deal. But before that I asked ChiNgad0r how can I trust them and this is his answer:

https://i.imgur.com/pvwGX6B.jpg

So, why did ChiNgad0r tried to assure me about payments and talked about his reputation if he was just to "send the message" as he said in his post.

I could be wrong, but judging by the story in the OP, the flag should be not the 3rd type ("violation of the written contract"), but the 2nd ("violation of a casual or implied agreement").

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On this moment you've earned actually not 182, but 86 merit. This can be seen on Vod’s website: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=ChiNgadOr

I support this flag.

As per the telegram conversation in the OP, the translation work was submitted and the payment was not given even after the promised date which is breaching of a written contract.

I have already dealt with cryptoji.net in the past, and they were good at there work as per my dealing with them. Them not being active with this is a bit weird to me. I am open to removing my support to the flag if the payments are made soon.