Duckdice.io bets issue resolved. - page 5.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 05, 2021, 04:26:09 PM

Quote from: Screwing1100 on October 05, 2021, 11:45:10 AM

dont you think verifying 500 bets are a big deal?

There is no other option. This is the issue with flash betting which is why I almost always avoid them. Op needs to verify each bet thoroughly in order to find out whether the bets were provably fair or not.

Am pretty sure that they are all provably fair and op just got unlucky due to a nasty losing streak which happens all the time in the gambling world.

You would really be expecting these kind of reasoning whenever a gambler do really lost up their money in doing gambling but? duckdice does have several complaints in the past.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duckdiceio-scam-and-shady-behavior-2022797
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warningdo-not-sign-up-on-duckdiceio-unfair-dice-site-5301132

So I would still have doubts about fairness.Why would choose this one if there are much better? Flashbet reason? you can use wolf.bet.

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Quote from: Screwing1100 on October 05, 2021, 11:45:10 AM

dont you think verifying 500 bets are a big deal?

yeah, sure, but If I can verify that the gambling site I am playing at is deceiving their gamblers? it is worth it. besides, that's your only option if you want to prove that they are in fact deceiving their gamblers. complaining here about your losing streaks and how suspicious it is wont to solve anything.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on October 05, 2021, 11:48:32 AM

I don't know who's side is right but you're right, people that gambles should accept the fact that there's days where it's a losing streak and that there will always days that you can always bounce back, don't be bitter about losing otherwise don't spend your money in gambling.

Human psychology is among the things that contribute to losing streak but you know as human, no one will want to admit that there is something wrong from there side.
Instead of checking where he got it wrong like accept losing streak and also taking a break while sorting out where the problem lies, they would rather get emotional and blame the house where they have been wining back to back.
The fact that you are playing a lottery, put loss aside so that when you see them, you don't get freak out.

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Quote from: Screwing1100 on October 02, 2021, 12:47:58 PM

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Quote from: bittraffic on October 02, 2021, 11:11:24 AM

Dice rollers are aware of losing streaks. It becomes normal for dice roller to experience such. Like you said it's not the first time. Losing streaks happen all the time to players particularly to those who want to win big by setting less than 10% winning chance. It even happens to rollers who make it 40%. What about your 5th?

Do you think losing 100 in row at 10% is normal? ok, how about 100 plus at 2nd time? can u show me 70 wins in row at 10% by playing at the same side? thats not even possible for a single time... how about 5?

I do not try to defend duckdice, but you are accusing them as scam because of the number of losing streak you got.
That's not a valid reason to accuse any site as a scam, as anything is possible in dice game because every single bet is independent.
You need to prove that there is something wrong with your bets that makes you get long losing streak.
Most dice sites are provably fair, so you should prove it with the provably fair mechanism by verifying your bets.

its dosent matter you defend them or not. As i asked how its possible to get 100 plus reds in row at 9.9 wining chances? can you hit atleast 70 greens at 90% wining chances in row? that not a single time and its almost 500 rolls to verify them so who can?

The thing is, gambling is based on probability. It is possible that you face such challenge because each time you bet, there is that probability of getting your least expected result. Also, it works based on the algorithm written for it, not the player's emotion. I was thinking you should know this even before playing.

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Quote from: Screwing1100 on October 05, 2021, 11:45:10 AM

dont you think verifying 500 bets are a big deal?

There is no other option. This is the issue with flash betting which is why I almost always avoid them. Op needs to verify each bet thoroughly in order to find out whether the bets were provably fair or not.

Am pretty sure that they are all provably fair and op just got unlucky due to a nasty losing streak which happens all the time in the gambling world.

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Quote from: Screwing1100 on October 02, 2021, 09:28:26 AM

I have Been Tricked by Duckdice.io gambling site.. I set Flashbet Setting and start with basebet the wining chances i set there was 9.9% And its Give me 100 plus reds in row at 9.9% wining chances, this wasnt for the single time i set 5 times and lose 5 times with 9.9% wining chances 9.82% wining chances 9.78% wining chances 9.8 and 9.88 wining chances where i lose all the time with having 100 plus reds in row. the bets are shown bellow which everyone can see.

ID: a6d9969966 ID: a49dd3e683
ID: a74254d252
ID: a6d9969966

Well many people think that 9% means that 9 out of 100 will be success, but it doesn't work like that. You can have chance of 50% like in dice and again get 50 losses in a row.

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Quote from: Screwing1100 on October 04, 2021, 11:24:25 PM

This is what i have to expect ? a 300 reds in row? common

You claim yourself as Diamond VIP level in Stake, so you must be very experienced big gambler.
Logically you should have known about the possibility of losing streak.
At least you know that every bet is independence, so basically losing streak is very possible thing to happen no matter how much is your winning chance.
Mathematically it sounds impossible to get very long losing streak, but gambling is not an exact math.

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Quote from: mak013 on October 05, 2021, 08:02:04 AM

The main mistake, that players decide to get easy money. And after losing they begin to cry that someone has stolen their money. Usually it is not so, but they don`t want to believe it. If you are in the gambling - forget money that you bring here. Only in such way you can think correct.

I don't know who's side is right but you're right, people that gambles should accept the fact that there's days where it's a losing streak and that there will always days that you can always bounce back, don't be bitter about losing otherwise don't spend your money in gambling.

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Quote from: acroman08 on October 05, 2021, 08:27:09 AM

Quote from: mak013 on October 05, 2021, 08:02:04 AM

The main mistake, that players decide to get easy money. And after losing they begin to cry that someone has stolen their money. Usually it is not so, but they don`t want to believe it. If you are in the gambling - forget money that you bring here. Only in such way you can think correct.

that's the problem with frustrated gamblers. they make irrational thoughts where they think that someone or the gambling site is cheating them. I mean, the OP can solve his problem if he verifies the losing bets and proves once and for all if the gambling site cheated him or not.

dont you think verifying 500 bets are a big deal?

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Quote from: mak013 on October 05, 2021, 08:02:04 AM

The main mistake, that players decide to get easy money. And after losing they begin to cry that someone has stolen their money. Usually it is not so, but they don`t want to believe it. If you are in the gambling - forget money that you bring here. Only in such way you can think correct.

that's the problem with frustrated gamblers. they make irrational thoughts where they think that someone or the gambling site is cheating them. I mean, the OP can solve his problem if he verifies the losing bets and proves once and for all if the gambling site cheated him or not.

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The main mistake, that players decide to get easy money. And after losing they begin to cry that someone has stolen their money. Usually it is not so, but they don`t want to believe it. If you are in the gambling - forget money that you bring here. Only in such way you can think correct.

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Quote from: Screwing1100 on October 04, 2021, 11:24:25 PM

This is what i have to expect ? a 300 reds in row? common

if you have suspicions about the losing streaks, check it, verify it. there are tools that can help you with that. instead of wasting your time continuously complaining here about how it is impossible(or at least it is not normal) to have that much losing streak. like I said, verify the bets.

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This is what i have to expect ? a 300 reds in row? common

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 03, 2021, 04:19:29 PM

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Correct, leason learned do not gamble.

I have already seen a most threads like this, they can't believe get so many losing streaks is impossible. However, until there has some shady code on the provably fair, thread like this is just a mad action. Just take a leason, hash game is not suitable for him go to "Live" betting even we know can facing this same problem. I once get and see 30 streak on Bacarat with 96-97% RTP ~XD

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It's not an issue,
probably you'll get losing streak upto 18000 rolls🤔🤔 cause you'll miss the another side opportunity.
If you expect 10x payout Probably you'll have a chance to 9000 losing streak on each side (Hi-Low).

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 03, 2021, 04:19:29 PM

Op basically is deluding himself into thinking that a certain numbered streak isn't possible due to the low probability of it happening which is gamblers fallacy. Every single bet is independent and that is a fact.

Witnessing unbelievable stuff in the gambling world is actually pretty common if you think about it. This is just another gambler blaming the casino because he lost his funds.

Wake up op. Gambling always has risks associated with it which is why you need to invest only what you are willing to lose.

Exactly, most newbies who have just came to gambling usually think the same thing as OP. They think that it is impossible to get long losing streak. Honestly, I was in the same situation in the past when I got 20+ losing streak in 2x payout. I thought it is something impossible as well, but I knew that it is possible after reading some sources and tried myself by doing coinflip.

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Op basically is deluding himself into thinking that a certain numbered streak isn't possible due to the low probability of it happening which is gamblers fallacy. Every single bet is independent and that is a fact.

Witnessing unbelievable stuff in the gambling world is actually pretty common if you think about it. This is just another gambler blaming the casino because he lost his funds.

Wake up op. Gambling always has risks associated with it which is why you need to invest only what you are willing to lose.

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^Yeah I have to agree with people that unless there is a proof of scam, this is just variance and does happen at times. It could be 100 losses 5 times, or it could even be 500 losses in a row, or it could be 5000 times in a row, I know it sounds very crazy and slim chances but that is not good enough reason to call them a scam just because something unexpected happen to you. This is similar to losing 10 times in a 50% bet as well, and that has happened to me way more than 5 times so far, probably at least 30-40 times in my life, lost 10 times in a row or more in a 50% chance game.

So, just because you lost in an unexpected way doesn't make them a scam. If you can provide a proof then it could be possible, we have seen so many casinos scamming customers so I am not saying that you are wrong and they are good, I am just saying this is not enough proof for a claim, bring in more proof and we can all get together to bash them, until then this is not enough.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 03, 2021, 12:32:54 PM

I was searching for that streak calculator but couldn't find it anywhere. It was available in Stake and Primedice chatbot but the bot isn't available now. @DarkStar_ Thank you for providing it.

Quote from: Screwing1100 on October 02, 2021, 11:09:51 AM

am wondring i played a while ago with 78% wining chances i got like 8 reds in row then i play on 90% wining chances and got 5 reds in row but i m wondring how i can have 100plus losses in row at 9.9% chances and not a single time thats come 5 times 100 plus losses. can u understand what i am saying exactly?

Where is the other two bet id? (You are saying about 5 times) I just checked those 3 flash bet id again and none of them have 100+ loss streak. You played the first flash bet at 9.81%, second flash bet at 9.7% and third flash bet at 9.73% win chance. Respectively the losing streak was 92, 96 and 92. So the probability of getting those streaks were like this-

https://i.imgur.com/iiOaNHu.jpg

As I have said before, the first bet was unfortunate for you. Other two looks reasonable and happens. Moreover, if you play more than 300 bets at 78% win chance then you have the 100% possibility to see 8 reds in a row. I play dice game regularly in some other casino and I'm habituated with these kind of loss streak. So, don't be surprise. You may get bigger loss streak than those.

i m wondring if its 90% chanes that i can have 100 reds in row 5 times at 9.9% chances then there must be 50% chances i can have a green in 100 rolls at 9.8% right? so where that chances goes away? btw cheack this as well ID: ab4339574b

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I was searching for that streak calculator but couldn't find it anywhere. It was available in Stake and Primedice chatbot but the bot isn't available now. @DarkStar_ Thank you for providing it.

Quote from: Screwing1100 on October 02, 2021, 11:09:51 AM

am wondring i played a while ago with 78% wining chances i got like 8 reds in row then i play on 90% wining chances and got 5 reds in row but i m wondring how i can have 100plus losses in row at 9.9% chances and not a single time thats come 5 times 100 plus losses. can u understand what i am saying exactly?

Where is the other two bet id? (You are saying about 5 times) I just checked those 3 flash bet id again and none of them have 100+ loss streak. You played the first flash bet at 9.81%, second flash bet at 9.7% and third flash bet at 9.73% win chance. Respectively the losing streak was 92, 96 and 92. So the probability of getting those streaks were like this-

As I have said before, the first bet was unfortunate for you. Other two looks reasonable and happens. Moreover, if you play more than 300 bets at 78% win chance then you have the 100% possibility to see 8 reds in a row. I play dice game regularly in some other casino and I'm habituated with these kind of loss streak. So, don't be surprise. You may get bigger loss streak than those.

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