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Topic: Duckdice.io [SCAM and SHADY behavior] - page 4. (Read 18396 times)

copper member
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Goodbye, Z.
July 23, 2017, 06:44:18 AM
#52
How can a site steal money if the user was behind the buttons.
Making the user acknowledge and confirm the action doesn't make the action itself any better.
The underlying rules are flawed, not how they are executed.
Also, as shown several times, the users are trapped in the bonus. You fail to address this issue or comment on it.

A lot if users won with the bonus, even High rollers like Negan4.
We're trying to discuss this case, and everything you can say in your defence is "others are winning from it".
Irrelevant.
hero member
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July 23, 2017, 06:21:43 AM
#51
How can you prove that this man is terrorist? If you can not, then why do you say that? Lying again?
Hmm, I think not this man but you are "terrorist". Who gave you permission to use and spend his money as you wish? And after all you think that your reputation and trust is growing? haha, curious.
Would be glad if you edit your html page a little with text: Duckdice will stole your money if you participate in bonus.

Can't understand, did you create deposit bonus not for players but for your pocket?

Lol, bonus is a risk for both. A lot if users won with the bonus, even High rollers like Negan4.

How can a site steal money if the user was behind the buttons.
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July 23, 2017, 05:59:58 AM
#50
How can you prove that this man is terrorist? If you can not, then why do you say that? Lying again?
Hmm, I think not this man but you are "terrorist". Who gave you permission to use and spend his money as you wish? And after all you think that your reputation and trust is growing? haha, curious.
Would be glad if you edit your html page a little with text: Duckdice will stole your money if you participate in bonus.

Can't understand, did you create deposit bonus not for players but for your pocket?
hero member
Activity: 1666
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July 23, 2017, 01:44:03 AM
#49
@Duckdice it is sort of disgraceful how you're referring to the people playing at your site as "terrorists" and "blackmailers"

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DuckDice will not "negotiate with terrorists". We see this case as a pure blackmail and therefore DuckDice will not make any refund. There is nothing shady or scammy, it is user's responsibility to read confirmation messages. Better make a thread and ask how many members won big with our bonuses.

I can assure you that you're the only company in the entire bitcoin world to say that when someone cancels their bonus their whole balance before that goes away with it. This is just unfair to the user, whether or not you made it clear. Plus he was in the positive, why would he logically cancel his balance and donate them to you?

Donating to charity isn't going to solve the issue. Coins belong to your customer and he hasn't given consent of giving it to anyone. Your rep isn't going to change as long as if you don't solve this issue. Plus, your customer WON money. If you were to donate the btc to charity, donate everything that he has won, not just the portion he deposited.
sr. member
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Merit: 266
July 21, 2017, 07:40:14 AM
#48
The Bonus campaign will be closed soon (just because one member didn't read his confirmation messages)
Hahahah this is one classic reply you really blaming Op for your fail !!!

The bonus campaign will be closed soon (Because we discovered it is broken and probably no one will ever take it again after saw how we ripoff anyone who get it  ) .

By the way no TX link for any kind of transaction to a charity have been posted  until this moment >
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 528
July 21, 2017, 06:49:06 AM
#47
Here is our final decision:

1. Bonus algorithm:

You may not like our Bonus algorithm and if you don't like it no one is forcing you to claim it. Users are notified about exact amount that will be subtracted from the balance and there is a specially designed confirmation screen where user confirm and agree with this. DuckDice shall not be liable for users who don't read confirmation screens.

Many members in this thread gave us their insight on how Bonus algorithm should work based on their opinion and we are very grateful to all of them. We may use this expertise in the future but this does not mean that current algorithm is flawed.

2. Refund:

DuckDice will not "negotiate with terrorists". We see this case as a pure blackmail and therefore DuckDice will not make any refund. There is nothing shady or scammy, it is user's responsibility to read confirmation messages. Better make a thread and ask how many members won big with our bonuses.

3. Solution:

The initial deposit of user Ozafejyw782 was 2 BTC and we will give this 2 BTC for charity. Transaction id will be added shortly

We have a negative trust because of this case now, but this doesn't frighten us, we believe that our position is correct and we will just regain user trust.


Wow for real that 3rd line in your case... I see it as a pure message to OP " Do whatever you want but you will not get your deposit back "
This is the worst case I have ever seen when a gambling website saying they don't care about their respect on this forum.
Also, you called OP a terrorist can you prove it?
full member
Activity: 181
Merit: 101
July 21, 2017, 06:41:32 AM
#46
You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount.
If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your hole balance"?
Lol it is whole Balance not hole... sounding naughty

Why would anyone agree to cancel his hole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen!
The balance is like a hole, empty and no value!  Wink
Ty for informing us about their shady behaviour...gonna avoid this site meh 😉
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 05:29:52 AM
#45
The Bonus campaign will be closed soon (just because one member didn't read his confirmation messages)
legendary
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July 21, 2017, 01:12:29 AM
#44
This is why one should always clarify bonus rules. It was not clear in the first place. From my reading, it seems clear that "deposit is locked". Bonus is also "locked" and only added to balance after it is wagered.

Cancelling bonus should only mean what is says: cancelling bonus.

You can adjust the wording and meaning any way, but any justice system will use logic and ethics. You cannot cancel a bonus and lose your deposit.
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
July 21, 2017, 01:01:11 AM
#43
You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount.
If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your hole balance"?
Lol it is whole Balance not hole... sounding naughty

Why would anyone agree to cancel his hole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen!
The balance is like a hole, empty and no value!  Wink
full member
Activity: 181
Merit: 101
July 21, 2017, 12:45:54 AM
#42
You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount.
If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your hole balance"?
Lol it is whole Balance not hole... sounding naughty

Why would anyone agree to cancel his hole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen!
legendary
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July 21, 2017, 12:25:40 AM
#41
The fact that the user was + when he canceled the bonus and they cleared his whole balance is criminal. Then they take the stance that they will donate his 2btc deposit(which they haven't showing a txid doing yet) and refund him nothing is also criminal. At the very least he should have been able to cancel the bonus and be left with a 2btc balance to play as he pleased.

The site is acting very shady with this situation and deposit bonus and i personally wouldn't deposit a dime there.

The neg tag will stay from me until they refund the user his 2btc. Even then i would only consider changing to a neutral tag.
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
July 21, 2017, 12:17:22 AM
#40
You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount.
If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your whole balance"?

Why would anyone agree to cancel his whole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen!
hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 512
July 21, 2017, 12:06:53 AM
#39
You offer to cancel the bonus, but then in reality you cancel the hole balance inclusive deposit and winnings and this is the criminal offense of false representation!

2 Fraud by false representation

(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and

(b) intends, by making the representation—

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

(2) A representation is false if—

(a) it is untrue or misleading, and

(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—

(a) the person making the representation, or

(b) any other person.

(4) A representation may be express or implied.

(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).



You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount.
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
July 20, 2017, 11:55:37 PM
#38
You offer to cancel the bonus, but then in reality you cancel the whole balance inclusive deposit and winnings and this is the criminal offense of false representation!

2 Fraud by false representation

(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and

(b) intends, by making the representation—

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

(2) A representation is false if—

(a) it is untrue or misleading, and

(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—

(a) the person making the representation, or

(b) any other person.

(4) A representation may be express or implied.

(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).

full member
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July 20, 2017, 10:49:40 PM
#37
Terrorists? Now how the owner found the user is terrorist?
Never seen a admin of any site talking like this....ofc shady behaviour
copper member
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Goodbye, Z.
July 20, 2017, 10:18:03 PM
#36
Indeed, duckdice deserves his red-trust (and more red-trust). They are shady, arrogant and they scammed me at least for 2 bitcoins.
Voiding the whole balance was indeed the wrong way to go.

2. Refund:
DuckDice will not "negotiate with terrorists". We see this case as a pure blackmail and therefore DuckDice will not make any refund. There is nothing shady or scammy, it is user's responsibility to read confirmation messages.
Seriously? Terrorists?

3. Solution:
The initial deposit of user Ozafejyw782 was 2 BTC and we will give this 2 BTC for charity. Transaction id will be added shortly
Doesnt sound like a solution to me. Neither for the user, nor for anyone else playing with your bonus terms in the future.

We have a negative trust because of this case now, but this doesn't frighten us, we believe that our position is correct and we will just regain user trust.[/size]
Good luck with that.
legendary
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July 20, 2017, 07:46:17 AM
#35

3. Solution:

The initial deposit of user Ozafejyw782 was 2 BTC and we will give this 2 BTC for charity. Transaction id will be added shortly

Is it done already? Have you sent the 2btc "for charity"? You said that you will add fhe txid shortly but it has been 3days but I see no txid. Did I miss something here?
I'm curious, will this charity clear your account from the negative trust and will you add more terms on the deposit bonus information to make it clear and this kind of thing happen again in the future?
newbie
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July 19, 2017, 10:56:23 AM
#34
OP when you are playing with high amounts of money, it's not time of experiments and in this situation it's better to play on highly trusted dice website.

DuckDice.io
You have to show us what happens before deposit and not after that because on that time it's late (I mean your post with pics).

Nothing personal but to my mind you deserve red trust. You offer bonus which is just legit way of scamming.

Indeed, duckdice deserves his red-trust (and more red-trust). They are shady, arrogant and they scammed me at least for 2 bitcoins.

And don't make me laugh with your charity, it is my money you have no rights to use it. I don't want to give it to your bulgarian scammer charity.

It is easy to make good impression when you only have small money  issues to resolve. However when you have an issue with  a higher amount of money, like mine, it is now that all people here can see that your admins are greedy and absolutely unfair.
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July 18, 2017, 05:45:56 PM
#33
OP when you are playing with high amounts of money, it's not time of experiments and in this situation it's better to play on highly trusted dice website.

DuckDice.io
You have to show us what happens before deposit and not after that because on that time it's late (I mean your post with pics).

Nothing personal but to my mind you deserve red trust. You offer bonus which is just legit way of scamming. The rules you offered for claiming that bonus isn't correct way and you know it also because it sounds almost impossible to players to claim bonus and you know 99% you will profit and players will lose their deposit. If I deposit and don't want to fight for claiming bonus anymore, it's players choise to deny or continue playing for your "bonus".
Let's explain, I deposited 1 btc and got bonus. I have to wager 1btc x55 = loss (yes it is even on 98% winning chanse and you know it), 0.5btc x 110 = loss again, 0.1 x 550 = loss and etc and etc, you are winning, sounds well.

I have one suggest for you, what about to make dice and offer 100x bonus if you will be able to wager 10000000000000x. Good idea, not?

But still to my mind that happens because people won't realize when casino offers you 55x deposit wager, they strongly believe that they win and you lose because casino exist for profit, not for charity.
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