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Topic: DUELBITS ASK FOR KYC WHEN YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR EARNED PROFITS - page 3. (Read 6212 times)

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@Hispo, I believe that casinos need to make KYC public and observable to all newcomers visiting gambling websites. My only problem is that they try to make it seem as if KYC is not required for anything. In the event that you win a lot of money, they will force you to pass KYC or lose your rewards, which is not a good way to handle a reputation-conscious business.

My reward would be to say goodbye forever to such gambling companies, since how they treat their customers is the most important aspect of their business.
legendary
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Yeah, had this problem tooo... Where on earth do they find servers for those KYC bigdata... Tendency to KYC grows really intensively. Not actually to say the same about stability of services, I dont know if there is a reason to continue using crypto casino...

To be realistic, the adoption of KYC by casinos is expected to be widespread if we are talking about institutions that are supposed to be correctly registered. People do not like KYC, but like to feel they are depositing in a legit and trustworthy webpage.

Also, do not let a bad passing experience on a casino to make you forget the advantages crypto gambling has and the community behind it. The fact one can partake in this without having a credit card or a bank account is a big enough advantage. Bitcoin wallets do not provide credit, so one can wager debit only, making it a bit harder to get into debt because addiction.  Smiley

Etc etc.
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Yeah, had this problem tooo... Where on earth do they find servers for those KYC bigdata... Tendency to KYC grows really intensively. Not actually to say the same about stability of services, I dont know if there is a reason to continue using crypto casino...
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

I really don't know of the duelbit term of service but you must have to understand that these casinos are just doing their best to balance the requirements of the licensing bodies with the demands of the players and you can agree with me that it's not really easy and you shouldn't be doing this to a reputable casino like this very one.

Gamblers also have to try to understand that these casinos wouldn't have to ask you to do kyc if it was in their power but you should also know that they work under some jurisdiction and their activities aso have some limitations and the day I understood this fact, I had to start bearing with these casinos.
it's pretty easy to understand everything, but sometimes beginners who just want to bet and make a profit don't read the terms and conditions that have been in effect for a long time at Duelbits.
for me KYC is not a big problem when one day you get a big win want to withdraw funds and be asked for KYC, no problem.

and a simpler understanding is if we bet in a licensed casino, I will do KYC at the beginning so that later when I get a big win I am not asked to KYC again.

That is the most logical, when we enter a casino we do KYC with the intention of not going to do more, but it has happened to me that despite that they ask for a KYC again but with less intensity, perhaps a photo or a video of 3 seconds, something like that, and it has also happened to me in some exchanges, Binance is very common for something like this to happen, however we as players at the moment we agree to play in a casino must abide by its rules, just like a casino does not force us to play If we do not read the conditions, that is no longer the casino's fault, and it is logical, if we enter and win we want to withdraw, the casino must understand that this is a natural process.
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It is true that if a casino wants a high level of trust from gamblers they must have a license that is good enough to be guaranteed in terms of security, but on the other hand a good license definitely requires requirements in the form of KYC and the problem here is that many gamblers object to KYC so this problem it really is the casino's job to be able to crack it and find a way out.
A gambler is a difficult person to guess because they want a casino that can be relied upon and trusted in terms of security and other things, but they don't want to give KYC to a casino that has the category they want.
maybe you forgot something.
of the majority of gamblers are more concerned with his anonymity not to reveal his identity wherever he is and choose crypto casinos to gamble without involving identity.
so the most important thing is if gamblers really don't want to fill out KYC just to gamble it's better to choose a decentralized casino that doesn't require KYC to bet or withdraw money from the casino. and usually decentralized casinos do not require a license. so gamblers can choose this type of casino to hide their identity and keep gambling.
Yes, I understand very well that a gambler really wants to gamble anonymously without involving their identity. However, they will still look for and choose casinos without KYC.
Sorry mate, I forgot about that.
In fact, I didn't even think that there is a decentralized casino that doesn't require a license and requires KYC. Yes, maybe gamblers who don't like KYC can play there.
But personally, I will always be the same as my previous opinion, namely I will only use casinos that are trusted and have a license, even though I have to provide a KYC.
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However it is rare that this is done during your first withdrawal, unless some sort of flag was raised by your account, as there are many of us which have gambled for a long time and that we have never needed to submit any kind of document to the casinos in which we gamble.
Yeah I find it strange since I have been playing for years in Duelbits and yet never that once being asked for KYC verification .

there seems to be Flag that the casino find out about His account since Duelbits required him for verification that I don't see fits to everyone of us who experienced playing in this site since day one.

or the system had it flow so there is a need for such and also I see no problem to comply since Duelbits is a legit and trustworthy site (for all who played and still playing now)
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Indeed, there is nothing wrong with the rule of KYC as long as it is stated in the terms and conditions of their casino and also players cannot complain about this, but unfortunately many players never care about the terms and conditions and when they are confronted with KYC they get angry and if we are the type of people who are very against KYC, so paying close attention to each term and condition casino  will prevent us from doing KYC in the future because we know the certainty of KYC before playing.
And this is the biggest problem, if we take the time to read the terms of service of most casinos, even if some of them claim that they are never going to ask for KYC you will see that in fact they can ask for some documents proving your identity or even proof of funds whenever they want.

However it is rare that this is done during your first withdrawal, unless some sort of flag was raised by your account, as there are many of us which have gambled for a long time and that we have never needed to submit any kind of document to the casinos in which we gamble.
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

I really don't know of the duelbit term of service but you must have to understand that these casinos are just doing their best to balance the requirements of the licensing bodies with the demands of the players and you can agree with me that it's not really easy and you shouldn't be doing this to a reputable casino like this very one.

Gamblers also have to try to understand that these casinos wouldn't have to ask you to do kyc if it was in their power but you should also know that they work under some jurisdiction and their activities aso have some limitations and the day I understood this fact, I had to start bearing with these casinos.
it's pretty easy to understand everything, but sometimes beginners who just want to bet and make a profit don't read the terms and conditions that have been in effect for a long time at Duelbits.
for me KYC is not a big problem when one day you get a big win want to withdraw funds and be asked for KYC, no problem.

and a simpler understanding is if we bet in a licensed casino, I will do KYC at the beginning so that later when I get a big win I am not asked to KYC again.
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The negative post isn't necessary na, I believe every organization and cooperative has terms and conditions guiding them so you should rather ask that we ensure to go through T&C's to avoid complaint during withdrawal.
But I see nothing wrong with the KYC requirement.
Those kind of people that claim to be not treated fair because being asked KYC when withdrawing are players that mostly truly Guilty of being cheater or those newbie that does not check the T&C before playing in which i believe that majority of gambling site nowadays will seek KYC maybe not for the same time of playing but eventually will come.
next time it is best to use this as learning that all online casino will ask KYC maybe not for now but in the future.

Agreed, while using cryptocurrency accepted gambling platforms or fiat based ones it is must to go through the terms and conditions. As said maybe they don't request for KYC at the beginning, but we need to be ready for KYC if asked to avoid unwanted discussion. I've used Duelbits and never encountered any issue during withdrawal. Once had an issue and the support team solved it and never requested for the KYC. Maybe it might vary depending upon the amount of money involved.
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Gamblers need to change the outlook they have of casinos, some time ago it was quite common to gamble at a casino and never been asked for your information regardless of the amount of money you won or you lost.

But this is not possible anymore especially when it comes to licensed casinos, casino owners have to follow the law and if this means asking for that information they will do it, fortunately this happens almost exclusively for those trying to withdraw high amounts of money, but it would not surprise me if on a few years this threshold was lowered and KYC requests became more common.
Exactly! I don't see a problem with KYC. The only thing that i think must be changed is that the casino must KYC the gambler during the registration. In such case he gambler see immediately that the casino has KYC, and he can choose to register or not. The same time the gambler wouldn`t be disappointed when he decide to withdraw money - he doesn`t need KYC and hasn`t any problem or delays with withdrawal.
That would be for the best for everyone involved but at the same time I do not see casinos being that open about asking for your personal information, and this is because if they did that then many gamblers for which their privacy is important will probably refuse to register at those casinos.

This would not be problematic if every single casino was doing the same thing, but I imagine there will always be some casinos unwilling to ask you to perform KYC on registration and they could get all of those clients, giving them a competitive advantage over the rest of the casinos.
But anyway they ask this information before withdrawal. The most part of the casino`s ToS has a clause like "We can KYC you any time" but, honestly, i`ve never seen any casino that allowed make some withdrawal without KYC. I mean that they ask KYC when you want to withdraw your money first time.
So i think that it must become a standard for all the casinos with KYC - ask KYC on the registration. But, of course, it is impossible.
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The negative post isn't necessary na, I believe every organization and cooperative has terms and conditions guiding them so you should rather ask that we ensure to go through T&C's to avoid complaint during withdrawal.
But I see nothing wrong with the KYC requirement.
Those kind of people that claim to be not treated fair because being asked KYC when withdrawing are players that mostly truly Guilty of being cheater or those newbie that does not check the T&C before playing in which i believe that majority of gambling site nowadays will seek KYC maybe not for the same time of playing but eventually will come.
next time it is best to use this as learning that all online casino will ask KYC maybe not for now but in the future.
legendary
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The negative post isn't necessary na, I believe every organization and cooperative has terms and conditions guiding them so you should rather ask that we ensure to go through T&C's to avoid complaint during withdrawal.
But I see nothing wrong with the KYC requirement.
Indeed, there is nothing wrong with the rule of KYC as long as it is stated in the terms and conditions of their casino and also players cannot complain about this, but unfortunately many players never care about the terms and conditions and when they are confronted with KYC they get angry and if we are the type of people who are very against KYC, so paying close attention to each term and condition casino  will prevent us from doing KYC in the future because we know the certainty of KYC before playing.
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

I really don't know of the duelbit term of service but you must have to understand that these casinos are just doing their best to balance the requirements of the licensing bodies with the demands of the players and you can agree with me that it's not really easy and you shouldn't be doing this to a reputable casino like this very one.

Gamblers also have to try to understand that these casinos wouldn't have to ask you to do kyc if it was in their power but you should also know that they work under some jurisdiction and their activities aso have some limitations and the day I understood this fact, I had to start bearing with these casinos.
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Gamblers need to change the outlook they have of casinos, some time ago it was quite common to gamble at a casino and never been asked for your information regardless of the amount of money you won or you lost.

But this is not possible anymore especially when it comes to licensed casinos, casino owners have to follow the law and if this means asking for that information they will do it, fortunately this happens almost exclusively for those trying to withdraw high amounts of money, but it would not surprise me if on a few years this threshold was lowered and KYC requests became more common.
Exactly! I don't see a problem with KYC. The only thing that i think must be changed is that the casino must KYC the gambler during the registration. In such case he gambler see immediately that the casino has KYC, and he can choose to register or not. The same time the gambler wouldn`t be disappointed when he decide to withdraw money - he doesn`t need KYC and hasn`t any problem or delays with withdrawal.
That would be for the best for everyone involved but at the same time I do not see casinos being that open about asking for your personal information, and this is because if they did that then many gamblers for which their privacy is important will probably refuse to register at those casinos.

This would not be problematic if every single casino was doing the same thing, but I imagine there will always be some casinos unwilling to ask you to perform KYC on registration and they could get all of those clients, giving them a competitive advantage over the rest of the casinos.
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if you don't want to withdraw money without KYC you should play decentralized casino because it's safe and without KYC but if you play centralized casino you should follow the rules of the game as they also have rules you have to follow, I'm also not interested in giving KYC then from that I always avoid it let alone withdraw big money, of course, I will be asked to submit KYC
Even decentralized casinos can still block a user account if they noticed any fowl play from the activities of the players, not only deulbits, there are many reasons why casino hand out restrictions to players and demanding for KYC and if the player takes the time to read the casino terms and conditions he will be aware of the fact that it is mentioned that, once your withdrawal exceed a certain amount you will be asked to verify your account.
People do always missed out these things on which reading up the terms and conditions which they would really be making out some complaints without even trying to look at on what they had violated or committed.
Duelbits had been long time running on this market on which they hadnt that much issue, if ever there is then they do resolved out it but its not really that shocking that there would be those fellas
who do really throw some accusations without any solid proofs or really just simply they had committed out some violation or simply didnt follow the terms and conditions.
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if you don't want to withdraw money without KYC you should play decentralized casino because it's safe and without KYC but if you play centralized casino you should follow the rules of the game as they also have rules you have to follow, I'm also not interested in giving KYC then from that I always avoid it let alone withdraw big money, of course, I will be asked to submit KYC
Even decentralized casinos can still block a user account if they noticed any fowl play from the activities of the players, not only deulbits, there are many reasons why casino hand out restrictions to players and demanding for KYC and if the player takes the time to read the casino terms and conditions he will be aware of the fact that it is mentioned that, once your withdrawal exceed a certain amount you will be asked to verify your account.
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The negative post isn't necessary na, I believe every organization and cooperative has terms and conditions guiding them so you should rather ask that we ensure to go through T&C's to avoid complaint during withdrawal.
But I see nothing wrong with the KYC requirement.
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Before active or deposit on gambling cryptocurrency platform better read term of service and understand all detail rule from gambling platform, I am not Duelbit user and I don't know specific rule with OP problem face have warning early when creating account need to pass KYC later if want withdrawing fund.

Could be problem later with many gambler disagree with gambling platform acquired with KYC and does Duelbit added this rule later after OP getting profit or the KYC procedure for withdrawing have been rule in term of service from Duelbit. I think if KYC as document ID better upload it and never back any more if OP not really happy with KYC procedure on gambling platform.

The OP is known for creating such accusation against different casino without valid proof. Check his trust rating and you will now that he is just bullshitting Duelbits. Probably he violated the ToS of Duelbits that’s he was asked to do KYC because you can freely withdraw your withdrawal if you are playing normally.

Duelbits is operating without a major problem for so many years and issue with valid proof usually being solved properly by Duelbits. We should stop feeding trolls because our attention is really their main goal.
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Before active or deposit on gambling cryptocurrency platform better read term of service and understand all detail rule from gambling platform, I am not Duelbit user and I don't know specific rule with OP problem face have warning early when creating account need to pass KYC later if want withdrawing fund.
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Well, the OP could pay attention to the AML&KYC duelbits section, where it is explicitly stated that you need to pass KYC before it is time to withdraw funds, there is also a requirement to make a minimum percentage of the deposit before requesting a withdrawal, otherwise you will also have to pass KYC. So it is really necessary to familiarize yourself with the ToS before making deposits in an online casino.

The first step of verification is an electronic KYC (Know Your Customer) check, must be done before any Withdrawal is possible. duelbits.com is not responsible for any delays in withdrawal created by the KYC checks.
After a user deposits funds to Duelbits using any depositing option provided by the company, except CS:Go Skins, there is a minimum percentage of the amount that must be wagered until a withdrawal for the said funds is requested, otherwise the company reserves the right to ask for any additional KYC documentation and freeze the user’s funds until the KYC requirement is fulfilled.
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if you don't want to withdraw money without KYC you should play decentralized casino because it's safe and without KYC but if you play centralized casino you should follow the rules of the game as they also have rules you have to follow, I'm also not interested in giving KYC then from that I always avoid it let alone withdraw big money of course I will be asked to submit KYC
Some people found themselves in this unwanted KYC position because the gambling website failed to state the fact about KYC verification where every new user can easily read and know what they are going into, I believe they are doing this intentionally, they knew some people will stay away from their website because of KYC verification, but after they win some money they have to abide to get their money withdrawn, users will have no choice but to pass the KYC to get their money out.
There are some things which the casino can't spoonfeed so we are the ones that should look for those things. KYC details are usually located on the terms and condition page and TAC are visible before we click on that sign up button.

It's already up to you if you will read it or not but don't just blame the casino after, if you didn't and then the details are already put on there. I think some casino ann threads here in the forum, will clearly state if they require KYC or not. You can just read them instead if you don't like scanning their TAC page. Asking to their customer support or forum representative is also another alternative that you can do.
I can not deny the fact that some casinos lack professional conduct, the information on their Ann thread might say one thing while their terms of service is saying another thing entirely, their customer care might tell you that they don't ask kyc meanwhile their terms of service is saying kyc might be asked from the user if the casino suspects anything illegal or withdrawal of a specified amount and above.

I've seen a situation where the user asked the customer care of a casino if VPN was allowed on the casino, the customer care said yes, the gambler went ahead to use VPN, and he was blocked, and when he contacted customer care again, he was pointed to the terms of service where it was stated that the casino does not allow use of VPN from it's gamblers.

So what am I saying?
It is best to always confirm all information from the terms of service of the Casino, that is the only source where informations can not trusted and cant be easily edited.
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