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Quote from: piebeyb on March 20, 2023, 04:01:06 AM

people always complain about KYC even though if they want they can just choose another casino that maintains their privacy, after all there is no compulsion to play at a casino that asks for KYC, everyone has a choice so before playing don't continue if you really don't like the existing rules including KYC .

The problem is there’s no casino that doesn’t require KYC or simply NO KYC at all in their terms. All of the casino has terms that they might require KYC anytime they want to apply it without any further explanation. Only true decentralized casino offers no KYC but they don’t offer popular games that makes this casino not appealing to gamblers.

Users keeps gambling on the casino in hope that they will not be required to KYC.

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Quote from: piebeyb on March 20, 2023, 04:01:06 AM

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on March 19, 2023, 02:14:30 AM

It's true to read rules of events like free spins before joining it. If you see rules are not attractively good enough or contains some requirements you don't like because you see it violates your privacy, simply ignore those events.

Right if you are not comfortable with the rules then don't participate at all in them because after that you won't have any excuses and we are not forced to do anything.Like for KYC if we are comfortable with it we can proceed further and if not then we have choices also so choose accordingly.

people always complain about KYC even though if they want they can just choose another casino that maintains their privacy, after all there is no compulsion to play at a casino that asks for KYC, everyone has a choice so before playing don't continue if you really don't like the existing rules including KYC .

It must be realized, basically this casino does not require KYC to play unless they follow or do something vulnerable to KYC like a deposit and ask for withdrawal without wager or shoot a big win or even like my last case obviously it requires KYC, in this case nothing can be blamed because that is indeed the rules that apply in almost all casinos especially casinos that have a license. If we prefer to play online casinos then we must be prepared with risks like this no one can ignore it, therefore we must read the rules that apply in each casino before creating an account or if we don't like it, it's better to play in real casinos.

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Quote from: worle1bm on March 19, 2023, 09:02:58 AM

Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on March 19, 2023, 02:14:30 AM

It's true to read rules of events like free spins before joining it. If you see rules are not attractively good enough or contains some requirements you don't like because you see it violates your privacy, simply ignore those events.

Right if you are not comfortable with the rules then don't participate at all in them because after that you won't have any excuses and we are not forced to do anything.Like for KYC if we are comfortable with it we can proceed further and if not then we have choices also so choose accordingly.

people always complain about KYC even though if they want they can just choose another casino that maintains their privacy, after all there is no compulsion to play at a casino that asks for KYC, everyone has a choice so before playing don't continue if you really don't like the existing rules including KYC .

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Quote from: Haunebu on March 19, 2023, 11:24:36 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on March 19, 2023, 11:08:38 AM

Same here. I recently do a KYC for participating bonus too often but I don’t hesitate to submit my KYC because I trust the casino and I knew that I will do this at some point in the future because it’s clearly stated in theirs terms that they might ask it without an exact time.

Understandable, but different people share different opinions which is why anti-KYC crowd avoid such promos.

Yeah if we are comfortable with such promos and KYC measures then we can easily participate in them otherwise as you said anti KYC group should avoid them so later on when they ask for documents you can do it.We all have different thoughts on this topic and this is why it's most debatable topic in casino gambling.

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Quote from: dimonstration on March 17, 2023, 10:44:02 AM

All of the Duelbits reward doesn’t have a wagering requirements after fulfilling the requirements to get it. I claim promotion like this before and I remember that you will receive all the profit from the free spin directly to your wallet which is instantly available to withdraw.

They have already set a wagering requirement of $100 to get the free spins so yes there would be no such after requirements if you want to withdraw the money I think.But you have to risk $100 also but if you are getting 50 free spins then it's worth trying it if you are gambling so take the risk and who knows you get some good profits into your account.

Basically the requirements come beforehand and not afterwards. In most casino you may get something free and that makes it a lot harder because after you get that free thing, then they ask you to gamble with it and more often than not you are going to end up losing it back again until you are free to withdraw it.

However, here that is the reverse, you risk something to get it and maybe you will or maybe you won't but if you do end up getting it then that was the requirement, the second you get that reward means that you fulfilled all the requirements already to get that and this is how you could withdraw it as soon as it is credited to your account.

This type of promotion is even better. Because aside from the possible profit you can get after wagering the $100 requirement, you'll also receive free spins after, and the winnings are directly credited in account available for withdraw.

I also received this exclusive promotion in my email last week. I tried to join but didn't meet the $100 requirement since i'm short of funds. It already ended but hopefully there's another promotion with low wagering requirement so I can fulfill it.

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Quote from: Solosanz on March 19, 2023, 02:04:45 AM

Quote from: tusandii on March 18, 2023, 10:48:08 PM

For promotions that are quite interesting and profitable, casinos usually ask for KYC or verify their data for customers who want to claim bonuses.
This is one of the strategies of the casino to still get KYC from every customer but in a way that is more subtle and doesn't seem obligatory because I'm sure casinos also realize that most gamblers don't like KYC.

You're seems like saying KYC casino is taking advantage to force their user to submit KYC when the gambler joined a promotion, but that's a way for the casino to know if the participants weren't using multiple accounts because it's not fair to the other gamblers.

Simple, if you're worried about KYC, just gamble with small amount money and don't join any promotion or free money/spin, the casino wouldn't ask you to submit KYC since your account have normal activities.

Not taking advantage but casinos can make it easier to get KYC in a more subtle way so that gamblers don't feel that the casino has provided mandatory KYC requirements.
You should know for yourself that most gamblers don't like KYC so if a casino asks for KYC at the beginning when gamblers register then only a few gamblers will want to use their casino.
We don't know whether in the future we will continue to gamble with small or large amounts of money, but what is clear is to be extra careful if in the future you get a big win, the casino will definitely ask for KYC requirements to withdraw the winning money.

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Quote from: tusandii on March 18, 2023, 10:48:08 PM

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Wow! Exactly! That’s the sort of novel point we love to hear! As someone who enjoys a night out at the casino every once in a while, I can relate to the unease some may feel at having to reveal private information, but I also recognize the necessity of Know Your Customer procedures. I mean, harmony is the key, right?

But, have you ever paused to ponder why KYC leaves us feeling uneasy? Could it be due to fear of the risks linked to divulging our private details, or is it that we've been programmed to value privacy above all else? A challenging query, but my gut says that as long as we have faith in the casino we're frequenting, there's no harm in sharing our data.

At the end of it all, casinos are merely safeguarding themselves from scams and money laundering, which benefits us patrons as well. So let's welcome KYC and acknowledge that it's ultimately for the greater good!

This is not a novel or a friend's story, there is a reality that is currently happening and I often encounter it.
I understand why most gamblers are not comfortable with KYC because they want to gamble anonymously and they are also crypto users so naturally the desire to remain anonymous always comes first.
But basically giving KYC to trusted big casinos is also not a difficult problem because they will guarantee security and protect the identities of their customers.
KYC is actually not for the benefit or profit of the casino itself but also for the common interest and security.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on March 19, 2023, 03:42:23 PM

Not that they refused to do KYC, some of this people might not have the required documents to pass the KYC verification, this is something I have experienced before, there was a time when I didn't have a government issued means of identification, after having been asked to submit one on by an exchange where I was trading on, i had to quickly apply for one.

Personally for me, like I always say, KYC is not something i consider to be bad like some gamblers see it, but then, the way most casinos handle it is very bad, casinos are not supposed to allow a gambler deposit money into their platform if the gambler have not passed KYC verification, but unfortunately, they allow gamblers deposit money, and when its time to withdraw, they ask the user to pass KYC verification, this is very bad and criminal like, regardless of how reputable the casino in question is.

It is unlikely that casinos are going to change their way of doing things, while what you are proposing would be the best approach for gamblers, as in this way they will know from the get go they need to identify themselves at the casino of their choice if they want to gamble there.

This policy will most likely represent very heavy losses for the casino as many gamblers will simply decide to not play there and gamble at another casino which allows them to make a deposit before they ask for KYC.

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Quote from: Haunebu on March 19, 2023, 11:24:36 AM

Quote from: tranthidung on March 19, 2023, 09:55:22 AM

Days without KYC on centralized platforms will end soon. It is out of centralized platforms to control their policies on KYC and AML because they must obey government and regulation so that their platforms can legally operate without problems with governments. They must protect their companies first and customers will have two options that they don't like but have no choice left: staying and doing KYC or leaving and finding another platform to use.

I disagree. There will always be crypto gambling sites that will never request KYC unless they find something suspicious or if the withdrawal amount is huge if you ask me. History has taught us that.

That maybe the case for decentralized gambling platform but when we are talking about legitimate centralized casino platform, the trend is getting KYC approved. So talking about the availability of non-kyc centralized casino, it will become rare and rarer and I think only those that are not operating legally will be left without KYC requirement in the coming days.

Quote from: Haunebu on March 19, 2023, 11:24:36 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on March 19, 2023, 11:08:38 AM

Same here. I recently do a KYC for participating bonus too often but I don’t hesitate to submit my KYC because I trust the casino and I knew that I will do this at some point in the future because it’s clearly stated in theirs terms that they might ask it without an exact time.

Understandable, but different people share different opinions which is why anti-KYC crowd avoid such promos.

I too won't hesitate to submit KYC to a reputable casino if I wanted to play on their platform but if I find another reputable casino that do not make KYC verification mandatory, I might hop in on that platform.

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Quote from: Beparanf on March 19, 2023, 11:08:38 AM

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Quote from: Beparanf on March 19, 2023, 09:08:44 AM

Yeah. This is a simple analogy but many are still ignoring because they have self interest. Many people keeps questioning the need of KYC of the casino because they want to play but they don’t want to submit their details for unknown reason. They are criticizing the casino in hopes that KYC will be lifted if many people demanded to remove it which will not gonna happened because the law is asking for it and not the casino itself.

Casino like Duelbits do what’s best on how they will limit requiring KYC to their customers. It took my account 2 years before I was required KYC here. This show how good Duelbits on not implementing KYC as long as they can avoid it.

Some will probably disagree, but I think more and more casinos are implementing KYC, even for small withdrawals and even if there is no suspicious activity on your account. I can understand that some want to stay anonymous but I don't really have a problem doing it, if it is a legit casino. Similar as Bitiniy, I have been asked to do KYC on several casinos, for small withdrawals.

Same here. I recently do a KYC for participating bonus too often but I don’t hesitate to submit my KYC because I trust the casino and I knew that I will do this at some point in the future because it’s clearly stated in theirs terms that they might ask it without an exact time.

Most lf the KYC problem is when a user that didn’t want to KYC deposit on the casino expecting that they will not ask immediately KYC then suddenly being required after they withdraw in the casino. There’s a lot of similar case like this in the post that user funds is lock on the casino because they refuse to do KYC even they are aware on it.

Not that they refused to do KYC, some of this people might not have the required documents to pass the KYC verification, this is something I have experienced before, there was a time when I didn't have a government issued means of identification, after having been asked to submit one on by an exchange where I was trading on, i had to quickly apply for one.

Personally for me, like I always say, KYC is not something i consider to be bad like some gamblers see it, but then, the way most casinos handle it is very bad, casinos are not supposed to allow a gambler deposit money into their platform if the gambler have not passed KYC verification, but unfortunately, they allow gamblers deposit money, and when its time to withdraw, they ask the user to pass KYC verification, this is very bad and criminal like, regardless of how reputable the casino in question is.

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Quote from: worle1bm on March 18, 2023, 01:35:00 AM

Quote from: dimonstration on March 17, 2023, 10:44:02 AM

All of the Duelbits reward doesn’t have a wagering requirements after fulfilling the requirements to get it. I claim promotion like this before and I remember that you will receive all the profit from the free spin directly to your wallet which is instantly available to withdraw.

They have already set a wagering requirement of $100 to get the free spins so yes there would be no such after requirements if you want to withdraw the money I think.But you have to risk $100 also but if you are getting 50 free spins then it's worth trying it if you are gambling so take the risk and who knows you get some good profits into your account.

Basically the requirements come beforehand and not afterwards. In most casino you may get something free and that makes it a lot harder because after you get that free thing, then they ask you to gamble with it and more often than not you are going to end up losing it back again until you are free to withdraw it.

However, here that is the reverse, you risk something to get it and maybe you will or maybe you won't but if you do end up getting it then that was the requirement, the second you get that reward means that you fulfilled all the requirements already to get that and this is how you could withdraw it as soon as it is credited to your account.

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Quote from: tranthidung on March 19, 2023, 09:55:22 AM

Days without KYC on centralized platforms will end soon. It is out of centralized platforms to control their policies on KYC and AML because they must obey government and regulation so that their platforms can legally operate without problems with governments. They must protect their companies first and customers will have two options that they don't like but have no choice left: staying and doing KYC or leaving and finding another platform to use.

I disagree. There will always be crypto gambling sites that will never request KYC unless they find something suspicious or if the withdrawal amount is huge if you ask me. History has taught us that.

Quote from: Beparanf on March 19, 2023, 11:08:38 AM

Same here. I recently do a KYC for participating bonus too often but I don’t hesitate to submit my KYC because I trust the casino and I knew that I will do this at some point in the future because it’s clearly stated in theirs terms that they might ask it without an exact time.

Understandable, but different people share different opinions which is why anti-KYC crowd avoid such promos.

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Quote from: babygun on March 19, 2023, 09:24:52 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on March 19, 2023, 09:08:44 AM

Yeah. This is a simple analogy but many are still ignoring because they have self interest. Many people keeps questioning the need of KYC of the casino because they want to play but they don’t want to submit their details for unknown reason. They are criticizing the casino in hopes that KYC will be lifted if many people demanded to remove it which will not gonna happened because the law is asking for it and not the casino itself.

Casino like Duelbits do what’s best on how they will limit requiring KYC to their customers. It took my account 2 years before I was required KYC here. This show how good Duelbits on not implementing KYC as long as they can avoid it.

Some will probably disagree, but I think more and more casinos are implementing KYC, even for small withdrawals and even if there is no suspicious activity on your account. I can understand that some want to stay anonymous but I don't really have a problem doing it, if it is a legit casino. Similar as Bitiniy, I have been asked to do KYC on several casinos, for small withdrawals.

Same here. I recently do a KYC for participating bonus too often but I don’t hesitate to submit my KYC because I trust the casino and I knew that I will do this at some point in the future because it’s clearly stated in theirs terms that they might ask it without an exact time.

Most lf the KYC problem is when a user that didn’t want to KYC deposit on the casino expecting that they will not ask immediately KYC then suddenly being required after they withdraw in the casino. There’s a lot of similar case like this in the post that user funds is lock on the casino because they refuse to do KYC even they are aware on it.

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yes, luck plays a role
but instead of relying only in blind luck one can prepare and move and try to reach lucky through preparation

it's a possibility too

not always easy, but possible.

We should learn lot of things in gambling like a pro or the other word is experienced gambler will always have edge over new players in lot of ways like he can understand some strategy based games more comfortably and can limit himself at many points or other benefits with his luck giving him profits.So yes we should always progress while learning.

Strategy is just a minor advantage but still it depends on luck to win regardless if you are pro or newbie. The only advantage of pro players to newbie is just they are already exposed to risk which they can handle it easily compared to newbie that always panic and distracted once lose streak happened. Strategy like Martingale and whatsoever that involves on bet is just a way to play gambling but it doesn’t increase the outcome of the game since the result is random.

There are many players who are very strategy based,and some don't believe in strategy and even though the game is purely random these things can give good results.

Although I am a person who believes in strategies but not that they are 100% effective,but it is better to play with some strategy than to play in an uncontrolled way,sometimes it can work but it is not something that can be trusted, that's why I always It is better to control the amount of money to bet, it is better to allocate the money willing to spend and not go beyond that, because otherwise it creates many more problems.

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Quote from: dimonstration on March 19, 2023, 09:36:34 AM

Agree on this. Some casino don’t consider anymore the amount of withdrawal or the size of bank roll to implement KYC. There’s a lot of new casino that implement KYC before a user can withdraw their money or before they do their first deposit. I believe due to the regulatory compliance that pushing casino to be more aggressive when it comes on collecting data from their customer as part of the AML policy and anti-cheat system of the casino.

Days without KYC on centralized platforms will end soon. It is out of centralized platforms to control their policies on KYC and AML because they must obey government and regulation so that their platforms can legally operate without problems with governments. They must protect their companies first and customers will have two options that they don't like but have no choice left: staying and doing KYC or leaving and finding another platform to use.

Mostly, if it is a platform that is highly trusted and that user really like, he will do KYC to continue using his account. Privacy and freedom in cryptocurrency and on centralized platforms will be censored more with time.

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Quote from: babygun on March 19, 2023, 09:24:52 AM

Some will probably disagree, but I think more and more casinos are implementing KYC, even for small withdrawals and even if there is no suspicious activity on your account. I can understand that some want to stay anonymous but I don't really have a problem doing it, if it is a legit casino. Similar as Bitiniy, I have been asked to do KYC on several casinos, for small withdrawals.

Agree on this. Some casino don’t consider anymore the amount of withdrawal or the size of bank roll to implement KYC. There’s a lot of new casino that implement KYC before a user can withdraw their money or before they do their first deposit. I believe due to the regulatory compliance that pushing casino to be more aggressive when it comes on collecting data from their customer as part of the AML policy and anti-cheat system of the casino.

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Quote from: Beparanf on March 19, 2023, 09:08:44 AM

Yeah. This is a simple analogy but many are still ignoring because they have self interest. Many people keeps questioning the need of KYC of the casino because they want to play but they don’t want to submit their details for unknown reason. They are criticizing the casino in hopes that KYC will be lifted if many people demanded to remove it which will not gonna happened because the law is asking for it and not the casino itself.

Casino like Duelbits do what’s best on how they will limit requiring KYC to their customers. It took my account 2 years before I was required KYC here. This show how good Duelbits on not implementing KYC as long as they can avoid it.

Some will probably disagree, but I think more and more casinos are implementing KYC, even for small withdrawals and even if there is no suspicious activity on your account. I can understand that some want to stay anonymous but I don't really have a problem doing it, if it is a legit casino. Similar as Bitiniy, I have been asked to do KYC on several casinos, for small withdrawals.

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Quote from: worle1bm on March 19, 2023, 09:02:58 AM

Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on March 19, 2023, 02:14:30 AM

It's true to read rules of events like free spins before joining it. If you see rules are not attractively good enough or contains some requirements you don't like because you see it violates your privacy, simply ignore those events.

Right if you are not comfortable with the rules then don't participate at all in them because after that you won't have any excuses and we are not forced to do anything.Like for KYC if we are comfortable with it we can proceed further and if not then we have choices also so choose accordingly.

Yeah. This is a simple analogy but many are still ignoring because they have self interest. Many people keeps questioning the need of KYC of the casino because they want to play but they don’t want to submit their details for unknown reason. They are criticizing the casino in hopes that KYC will be lifted if many people demanded to remove it which will not gonna happened because the law is asking for it and not the casino itself.

Casino like Duelbits do what’s best on how they will limit requiring KYC to their customers. It took my account 2 years before I was required KYC here. This show how good Duelbits on not implementing KYC as long as they can avoid it.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on March 19, 2023, 02:14:30 AM

It's true to read rules of events like free spins before joining it. If you see rules are not attractively good enough or contains some requirements you don't like because you see it violates your privacy, simply ignore those events.

Right if you are not comfortable with the rules then don't participate at all in them because after that you won't have any excuses and we are not forced to do anything.Like for KYC if we are comfortable with it we can proceed further and if not then we have choices also so choose accordingly.

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Quote from: tusandii on March 18, 2023, 10:48:08 PM

Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on March 18, 2023, 01:05:47 PM

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For promotions that are quite interesting and profitable, casinos usually ask for KYC or verify their data for customers who want to claim bonuses.
This is one of the strategies of the casino to still get KYC from every customer but in a way that is more subtle and doesn't seem obligatory because I'm sure casinos also realize that most gamblers don't like KYC.
If indeed KYC is really needed, such as when withdrawing large amounts of money, even though gamblers don't like and object to KYC, they still have to give it in order to be able to take the money in the casino's wallet.
I think if this is a big trusted casino then there is no need to worry too much about the risk of giving a KYC.

Wow! Exactly! We adore fresh ideas like that! As someone who occasionally goes to the casino, I understand why some individuals would feel uncomfortable giving out sensitive information, but I also know that Know Your Customer protocols are crucial. Isn't balance key?

Have you considered why KYC makes us uncomfortable? Is it because we're fearful of giving our personal information or because we've been trained to value privacy above everything else? I think we should provide our information if we trust the casino.

Casinos are only attempting to avoid frauds and money laundering, which benefits customers. Let's welcome KYC and agree it's best in the long term.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on March 19, 2023, 02:14:30 AM

Quote from: Solosanz on March 19, 2023, 02:04:45 AM

Simple, if you're worried about KYC, just gamble with small amount money and don't join any promotion or free money/spin, the casino wouldn't ask you to submit KYC since your account have normal activities.

It's true to read rules of events like free spins before joining it. If you see rules are not attractively good enough or contains some requirements you don't like because you see it violates your privacy, simply ignore those events.

Not completely true in general because I've experienced myself (not in Duelbits) where I played normally with small amount, did not take any bonuses/promotions but the casino ask me to do KYC on my 1st withdrawal request worth no more than $200. That's not the point though, taking bonus/promotion is fine as long as we do not try to abuse it. In most cases, many small players were asked to do KYC because their accounts are suspected for abusing the bonuses.

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