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Welcome to gambling folks. There’s no certain win here even if you are a good sports betting analyst. As you mention already, there’s a lot of unknown factor that can affect to the result of the match so even a well analyzed games can go wrong.
That unknown factor is luck basically. Someone posted a thread sometime back within this board about a dude losing around a million bucks by betting on 1.03 odds or something and he ended up losing it all.

Even 1.01 isn't considered a guaranteed win which says it all. It all comes down to finding value in odds and exploiting it to beat casinos in the long-term.
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Any type of betting is risky its just you can do something to minimize the risk and you should not gamble without having a good preparation so you would not regret anything especially if you lose a lot of money on certain mistakes you could possibly do.
Yes, there is no game in gambling that is not risky, almost all gambling bets such as casino games or sports betting have their own risks, therefore as a gambler you must be able to minimize them by setting a gambling budget so as not to lose more money and play excessively, many gamblers who playing too much can lead to addiction to gambling and playing with even worse risks, everyone should understand that and control themselves when gambling so that they don't take it too seriously and overdo it too.

You are right that every gambler must have thorough preparation and be good at self-control, for example being aware of the risks that will occur when gambling because not many people want to realize that gambling has risks that must be accepted, many gamblers don't want to accept the risks that exist. They want to continue to make more money from gambling, even though it is important for gamblers to have full awareness of the risks they are experiencing. The risk of losing money is of course the most important thing, but it is important to understand each risk so as not to lose everything, so it is important to limit your budget when gambling.
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That's why some would always argue that sports betting is not a skilled based game because they don't put an effort in analyzing the game, or maybe have put an effort but didn't get the expectation they want to see. We have different experience but I really believe that on all the games in a casino, sports betting is the best type of gambling that I am confident with in winning.
Then those people do not know what they are talking about, poker and sport bets are classified as games of high skill and high luck, which means that in order to win you need to have a high level of skill, but even then due to the random nature of the games, you can still lose even when you play the game perfectly.

This may give the impression that sport bets are not a game of skill to some, as your skill does not seem to matter sometimes, but it is, it is just that unlike chess, a game of high skill and low luck, the luck aspect can be so dominant that it can overshadow your skill.
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That's why some would always argue that sports betting is not a skilled based game because they don't put an effort in analyzing the game, or maybe have put an effort but didn't get the expectation they want to see. We have different experience but I really believe that on all the games in a casino, sports betting is the best type of gambling that I am confident with in winning.
Skills are important in anything and being skillful can be necessary for your success but only skillful is not enough. There are random factors which are unpredictable and can appear anytime and can decide your bet result.

Sometimes it will help you win even you make a stupid bet but sometimes it will cause you unlucky loss even you are skillful and make a very good bet.

That explains that betting is risky, unpredictable and sports betting is more risky and more unpredictable. If you love sports, love bets, and have good capital and bet management, you will bet responsibly and one unlucky loss won't take all money from you.

Its necessary for people to have skill on everything they want want to do especially on gambling since it could able to help you to create some plans then get a higher probabilities to win. Although some may say that we need luck to win but its just a factor since there are times that skills will always be a big factor since luck will not come to us especially if we are not knowledgeable on things to do also we need to understand the game so that we may know how to win those games.

Any type of betting is risky its just you can do something to minimize the risk and you should not gamble without having a good preparation so you would not regret anything especially if you lose a lot of money on certain mistakes you could possibly do.
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That's why some would always argue that sports betting is not a skilled based game because they don't put an effort in analyzing the game, or maybe have put an effort but didn't get the expectation they want to see. We have different experience but I really believe that on all the games in a casino, sports betting is the best type of gambling that I am confident with in winning.
Skills are important in anything and being skillful can be necessary for your success but only skillful is not enough. There are random factors which are unpredictable and can appear anytime and can decide your bet result.



In gambling, definitely you’re right since all gamblings games is based on luck even sports betting. The only advantage of having a good analysis skills is you can bet logically based on the previous data provided compared on betting randomly to a match that you are not familiar.

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Sometimes it will help you win even you make a stupid bet but sometimes it will cause you unlucky loss even you are skillful and make a very good bet.

That explains that betting is risky, unpredictable and sports betting is more risky and more unpredictable. If you love sports, love bets, and have good capital and bet management, you will bet responsibly and one unlucky loss won't take all money from you.

Welcome to gambling folks. There’s no certain win here even if you are a good sports betting analyst. As you mention already, there’s a lot of unknown factor that can affect to the result of the match so even a well analyzed games can go wrong.
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That's why some would always argue that sports betting is not a skilled based game because they don't put an effort in analyzing the game, or maybe have put an effort but didn't get the expectation they want to see. We have different experience but I really believe that on all the games in a casino, sports betting is the best type of gambling that I am confident with in winning.
Skills are important in anything and being skillful can be necessary for your success but only skillful is not enough. There are random factors which are unpredictable and can appear anytime and can decide your bet result.

Sometimes it will help you win even you make a stupid bet but sometimes it will cause you unlucky loss even you are skillful and make a very good bet.

That explains that betting is risky, unpredictable and sports betting is more risky and more unpredictable. If you love sports, love bets, and have good capital and bet management, you will bet responsibly and one unlucky loss won't take all money from you.
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I personally like to implement betting on few games only so I would not put too much pressure on myself. When I'm betting on sport, I made sure that before placing my bet, I have already carefully analyze it well, and I'm not even like consistently passing the minimum profitable rate, so how much more if I'll just choose it randomly and forget about studying the game.

We have different strategy with betting, and even on games we are playing, so we just have to stick on where we are comfortable at, since after all, it's our money, it's our rules that will be followed.

You’re right with your approach here to bet only to the matches that you like or simply a comfortable bets since there’s no one forcing you to place tons of bets at once. This is the common mistakes of sports bettor because they want to earn more quickly by placing multiple bets even though they don’t have idea on the match that they are betting.

They are using sport betting as fast phase game as slots that’s why they place tons of bet to compensate on the waiting time of each result. I do the same betting as yours, I only place bet when a team that I’m following is playing. I just increase my bets since I’m confident on my bets even though I’m rarely to place bet.


That's why some would always argue that sports betting is not a skilled based game because they don't put an effort in analyzing the game, or maybe have put an effort but didn't get the expectation they want to see. We have different experience but I really believe that on all the games in a casino, sports betting is the best type of gambling that I am confident with in winning.

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Quality over quantity. 
This should be emphasize all the time, your goal here is to win and your chances of winning is higher when you study a game.

Using a number will help us understand the clear picture, and if we are giving juice to the bookies, the number of bets increase the higher commission you'll pay every time you win.

say you have this win - loss record 10-10, that's 50% right? and on the other hand you also have 100-100, still 50% but you've already paid 10% commissions on the 100 bets you've won. compared to 10 only in the first example.
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I personally like to implement betting on few games only so I would not put too much pressure on myself. When I'm betting on sport, I made sure that before placing my bet, I have already carefully analyze it well, and I'm not even like consistently passing the minimum profitable rate, so how much more if I'll just choose it randomly and forget about studying the game.

We have different strategy with betting, and even on games we are playing, so we just have to stick on where we are comfortable at, since after all, it's our money, it's our rules that will be followed.
Yes, you are right, everyone must obey the rules that have been instilled in their hearts, at least in themselves, at least so that they don't gamble beyond the limits which ultimately leads to gambling addiction. I also do the same thing, namely analyzing before betting on sports betting because it is important even though the final result is still determined. by luck, but sports betting doesn't completely rely on that, only casino games or some kind of slots rely heavily on luck, I don't know whether many people still believe in luck in gambling or not in casino games or sports betting, it all depends on their own views. .

You are also right that everyone has different views and strategies when gambling, the most important thing is that gambling is not entirely to win but it should be something fun too, the point is to gamble with money that is ready to be lost, not to gamble with money that should be used for living needs obviously. that is wrong and violates the rules that should be, gambling must be able to set a budget other than the right rules at least so that you don't get addicted to gambling, because this addiction is a disease that is difficult to cure if the gambler is too involved in gambling and focuses on chasing money from gambling.  Wink
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I personally like to implement betting on few games only so I would not put too much pressure on myself. When I'm betting on sport, I made sure that before placing my bet, I have already carefully analyze it well, and I'm not even like consistently passing the minimum profitable rate, so how much more if I'll just choose it randomly and forget about studying the game.

We have different strategy with betting, and even on games we are playing, so we just have to stick on where we are comfortable at, since after all, it's our money, it's our rules that will be followed.

You’re right with your approach here to bet only to the matches that you like or simply a comfortable bets since there’s no one forcing you to place tons of bets at once. This is the common mistakes of sports bettor because they want to earn more quickly by placing multiple bets even though they don’t have idea on the match that they are betting.

They are using sport betting as fast phase game as slots that’s why they place tons of bet to compensate on the waiting time of each result. I do the same betting as yours, I only place bet when a team that I’m following is playing. I just increase my bets since I’m confident on my bets even though I’m rarely to place bet.

Quality over quantity. 
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Yes. It just becomes a habit when playing certain types of gambling. There is convenience when playing slots and placing football bets using a cellphone, one of which is being able to play while sleeping on the bed.
Then playing using a cellphone doesn't require a special place. We just need a comfortable place, even in a cafe, we can do it ourselves without anyone knowing what we are doing because each of us is busy with our own activities
Never tried gambling while lying in my bet, LOL.. I feel doing that means I'm just purely having fun, and it's okay to win/loss. Not me, I'm kinda serious with gambling although I know how to accept losses. Personally, I have tried a lot of games in this platform but since majority of my bets goes to sports, that doesn't made me spend a lot of time in front of my PC or my cellphone.
Same. Just betting more often on sports betting means we don't need as much time to spend in front of a PC or cell phone.
If most of the bets are on sports betting, I'm also serious. My seriousness in analyzing is most comfortable when I am in my room lying on the bed using my cell phone. Like yesterday when analyzing several Premier League matches yesterday.

Spending a lot of time in front of the PC gambling is not good for eye health. LOL
In gambling, playing is just for fun, let alone receiving winnings. The result is losing which results in serious loss of money. Haha
I like losing and winning should be accepted like the goal of gambling is to have fun.

I personally like to implement betting on few games only so I would not put too much pressure on myself. When I'm betting on sport, I made sure that before placing my bet, I have already carefully analyze it well, and I'm not even like consistently passing the minimum profitable rate, so how much more if I'll just choose it randomly and forget about studying the game.

We have different strategy with betting, and even on games we are playing, so we just have to stick on where we are comfortable at, since after all, it's our money, it's our rules that will be followed.
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Gaming on mobile is a convenient option but cannot be the ideal choice for many people.
For people who don't have a desktop/laptop it can be the best option though but most people who has a desktop/laptop don't prefer gambling on mobile phone.
Gambling on desktop provides the best user experience.

I have both Desktop, Laptop and Mobile devices but I prefer gamble on my mobile device due to convenience it can offer. You don’t need desktop power in online gambling since most of the games is easy to load which gives same user experience for both mobile phone or desktop.

I only use my desktop whenever I play games that has a high resolution since mobile phone can’t handle that kind of processing power and render but in terms of gambling games. I always preferred mobile over desktop because I can gamble comfortably while lying on my bed.

So it really depends on the individual's choice. Even I have a desktop, laptop as well as mobile yet I prefer gambling on desktop and laptop.
To me it's the bigger screen that provides an exotic user experience while gambling. Mobile screens are relatively smaller and hence the experience is not truly amazing to me.

Maybe if there's a poll created regarding on this options for sure that playing on desktop would be the top choice since we can play on more bigger screen and have nice sound effects especially if we put our gaming headsets on.

On mobile well I'm still fine by using it but only when I am in public which I need something to make myself busy and forget about the time. But when I'm home for sure that I will grab my PC then open those games I want to play since experience is really different.

Spending a lot of time in front of the PC gambling is not good for eye health. LOL
In gambling, playing is just for fun, let alone receiving winnings. The result is losing which results in serious loss of money. Haha
I like losing and winning should be accepted like the goal of gambling is to have fun.
Just make sure you have time limit while using your PC to avoid any health problems also use anti radiation glasses and for sure that you will fine with this. But you will really be fine if at start of the game you already aware or already accept the fact that there are instances that bad luck occur and you lose. Then what you aim is only to have fun.
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Yes. It just becomes a habit when playing certain types of gambling. There is convenience when playing slots and placing football bets using a cellphone, one of which is being able to play while sleeping on the bed.
Then playing using a cellphone doesn't require a special place. We just need a comfortable place, even in a cafe, we can do it ourselves without anyone knowing what we are doing because each of us is busy with our own activities
Never tried gambling while lying in my bet, LOL.. I feel doing that means I'm just purely having fun, and it's okay to win/loss. Not me, I'm kinda serious with gambling although I know how to accept losses. Personally, I have tried a lot of games in this platform but since majority of my bets goes to sports, that doesn't made me spend a lot of time in front of my PC or my cellphone.
Same. Just betting more often on sports betting means we don't need as much time to spend in front of a PC or cell phone.
If most of the bets are on sports betting, I'm also serious. My seriousness in analyzing is most comfortable when I am in my room lying on the bed using my cell phone. Like yesterday when analyzing several Premier League matches yesterday.

Spending a lot of time in front of the PC gambling is not good for eye health. LOL
In gambling, playing is just for fun, let alone receiving winnings. The result is losing which results in serious loss of money. Haha
I like losing and winning should be accepted like the goal of gambling is to have fun.
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Gaming on mobile is a convenient option but cannot be the ideal choice for many people.
For people who don't have a desktop/laptop it can be the best option though but most people who has a desktop/laptop don't prefer gambling on mobile phone.
Gambling on desktop provides the best user experience.

I have both Desktop, Laptop and Mobile devices but I prefer gamble on my mobile device due to convenience it can offer. You don’t need desktop power in online gambling since most of the games is easy to load which gives same user experience for both mobile phone or desktop.

I only use my desktop whenever I play games that has a high resolution since mobile phone can’t handle that kind of processing power and render but in terms of gambling games. I always preferred mobile over desktop because I can gamble comfortably while lying on my bed.

So it really depends on the individual's choice. Even I have a desktop, laptop as well as mobile yet I prefer gambling on desktop and laptop.
To me it's the bigger screen that provides an exotic user experience while gambling. Mobile screens are relatively smaller and hence the experience is not truly amazing to me.
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TOS is really important to read that's why people should never try about skipping it since if they gamble without getting any knowledge especially on restrictions and VPN usage maybe they would be in trouble if the casino they are playing is against of using this tools.
Yes, it is also very important to read the TOS, but it is best to read it when you really feel confident and steady in gambling there, sometimes we may read so many rules and TOS that reading them can take time, so just read the important ones, at least discussing about Use VPN or countries that are prohibited by the site so that there will be no problems in the future just because you don't read the TOS and prohibitions that have been written by the gambling site, but it's really best not to gamble. If you want to be an anonymous user, you should look for decentralized gambling.

There are many reasons for gamblers to use VPN, there are those who want to be anonymous users so that their IP doesn't want to be tracked by gambling sites or other things and the most common problem is that and very rarely the reason is because the internet provider prohibits them or has problems with not being able to access gambling sites properly because of the ban. from his own country, just like in my country gambling is prohibited so that government internet providers cannot be used to access gambling but using private internet providers, everything is safe and I can even access it.
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In my opinion, casinos should make a simpler TOS, something easy to read, something that doesn't tire people when they are reading. They could talk simply about the minimum deposit and withdrawal amounts. Then they would talk about VPN and banning many accounts, then they would talk simply about KYC, then they would talk very simply about bonuses and bets and their requirements. then they would put the list of restricted countries. They wouldn't need to have many long texts that are tiring, especially when it comes to accounts, bets and their requirements and the list of restricted countries becomes very tiring to read, because they write a lot and include the list of restricted countries. then they write a lot again and put another list of countries, then they do the same thing that makes you tired of reading. They focus a lot on restricted countries. and don't focus much on the betting part

It can be tiring to read wall of texts but knowing what's written there for the security of our deposits as well as rewards. It's good that you don't pick random casinos still I would recommend to read the terms related to games cause that's what the problem arises regarding claiming bonus or due to void bets or things like that.

Regarding the multiple list of countries, the primary one will be the users are completed banned from registering in that casino and other lists restricts from certain games due to the jurisdiction policies that prohibits gambling operator to provide that game to their citizens.

Most of the time the casino itself shows you are restricted to play this game but not always.
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Yes it's important that we know what's in the ToS, often I skip a lot of pages because what I'm looking for about KYC, border countries, VPN usage is the most important.

That's what I read before making a deposit until finally I have not experienced any complaints at all while playing at the casino in the sense that there is a slight problem that is always resolved with the support staff.

Sometimes there are vague rules for example in the tos VPN is friendly to the casino but when asking the support staff it is not recommended, so I prefer not to use a VPN even though the country is not restricted while the site cannot be accessed.

What's mentioned in the ToS is more important than what support staff says but the VPN we use should not violate the one IP per household rule. And as you said information regarding KYC and whether the list of country have our country because even if gambling is completely legal in our country the casino where it registered may have different rules so better not to bypass any of the ToS for safe gambling expereince.

If the support staffs say opposite to what is written on their TOS then there's really a serious problem happening on their casino internally since that means they didn't train well the people who work on their casino and they give wrong statement to those people who ask question related to this conditions. I may surely get disappointed on the casino and provably will not play if that case happening since we can't rely on their support staff since even them doesn't know about their rules.

TOS is really important to read that's why people should never try about skipping it since if they gamble without getting any knowledge especially on restrictions and VPN usage maybe they would be in trouble if the casino they are playing is against of using this tools.
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I only use my desktop whenever I play games that has a high resolution since mobile phone can’t handle that kind of processing power and render but in terms of gambling games. I always preferred mobile over desktop because I can gamble comfortably while lying on my bed.
Yes. It just becomes a habit when playing certain types of gambling. There is convenience when playing slots and placing football bets using a cellphone, one of which is being able to play while sleeping on the bed.
Then playing using a cellphone doesn't require a special place. We just need a comfortable place, even in a cafe, we can do it ourselves without anyone knowing what we are doing because each of us is busy with our own activities
Never tried gambling while lying in my bet, LOL.. I feel doing that means I'm just purely having fun, and it's okay to win/loss. Not me, I'm kinda serious with gambling although I know how to accept losses. Personally, I have tried a lot of games in this platform but since majority of my bets goes to sports, that doesn't made me spend a lot of time in front of my PC or my cellphone.
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I think the theme with reading multiple pages ToS is not even about lazyness but about self-respect
some terms of service takes weeks to read, days... who has all this time? a lot of it is just shouting "take my data" and letting it be...

The inconvenience of long ToS is true but it explains why a platform has FAQs page for more summary information on most basics and it is why they have Customer Support Staffs. You can have Bot support first, then if necessary, you will be directed to human customer support staffs.

These resources on website, bot to human can help guests or users get almost basic information they need to use a platform.

In my opinion, casinos should make a simpler TOS, something easy to read, something that doesn't tire people when they are reading. They could talk simply about the minimum deposit and withdrawal amounts. Then they would talk about VPN and banning many accounts, then they would talk simply about KYC, then they would talk very simply about bonuses and bets and their requirements. then they would put the list of restricted countries. They wouldn't need to have many long texts that are tiring, especially when it comes to accounts, bets and their requirements and the list of restricted countries becomes very tiring to read, because they write a lot and include the list of restricted countries. then they write a lot again and put another list of countries, then they do the same thing that makes you tired of reading. They focus a lot on restricted countries. and don't focus much on the betting part
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I only use my desktop whenever I play games that has a high resolution since mobile phone can’t handle that kind of processing power and render but in terms of gambling games. I always preferred mobile over desktop because I can gamble comfortably while lying on my bed.
Yes. It just becomes a habit when playing certain types of gambling. There is convenience when playing slots and placing football bets using a cellphone, one of which is being able to play while sleeping on the bed.
Then playing using a cellphone doesn't require a special place. We just need a comfortable place, even in a cafe, we can do it ourselves without anyone knowing what we are doing because each of us is busy with our own activities
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I don't find reading the ToS as inconvenient at all because it's mandatory to read so that we know what we are agreeing to, it's true that people just skip and accept all the terms without even reading at all. Atleast I will recommend to take a look at the most important things like the restricted country list, and information regarding KYC verification. But one should give a glance at the ToS page before making their first deposit if they don't want to take any risk at all.

Exactly, I’m always diligent on reading the ToS before I deposit on a certain casino especially new to me. I’m scanning or doing shortcuts if I already fully read the ToS before and just double checking if there’s a changes on some point which I considered valuable the most.

Actually it’s not that hard to fully read them since you can skip on part which is not your concerned such as sportsbook section since I don’t play this game frequently. The general terms is what I always read carefully and leave the part which doesn’t related to my game.
I agree with the both of you, however, I wouldnt say that the terms and conditions of a casino doesnt inconvenience me at times, infact, the honest truth (if actually we should all be truthful to ourselves) is that I've had to skip reading the terms and conditions of several casinos that I ones played on, why? Because, the terms and conditions always appear very lengthy and sometimes, very uninteresting to read, most especially when I am in a hurry to place bets on some games I got recommended to by a some sports betting pros in my circle, and the thing is, I don't just sign up on any random casino I do not know, the casino I play on is either most of the time; recommend by a friend, alongside a game to bet on on that casino, or take my time to study a casino mostly from this forum, and play there, only on special occasions do I make out the time to read terms of service of casino.
Not saying or advising anyone do the same thing as me, I am just being honest about myself and how I treat terms and conditions of online casinos.
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