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Quote from: shield132 on April 12, 2024, 07:42:07 AM

Yeah, the number of casinos that give you a room for privacy is shrinking every day.

You can say the same with centralized exchanges. Some years ago, they allowed us to use their centralized exchanges without KYC but since like 2018 or 2019, KYC/ AML in cryptocurrency exchanges began to be used more popularly.

With recent charges against Binance, Changpeng Zao, Kucoin and their co-founders, more CEX will be more carefully with their KYC policy. The same for gambling sites that have to obey laws and avoid risk on their casinos and their founders too.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 11, 2024, 08:58:13 AM

I'm just curious, if this will happen and the funds will be frozen. What will be the action of the casino, will they keep the funds and consider it as other income, or they will remit it to the proper agency which is under a certain government?

If your account gets frozen and at the same time this casino is active on bitcointalk, the next step is that you create a scam accusation thread, post your issue with proof and then you hope that your problem will be solved with the help of the community. There have been cases when casino wasn't paying to the user and user got money with the help of bitcointalk members. I can't guarantee what casinos do with user's frozen funds but to my mind, they keep it in their pocket. I don't believe that they contact any authorities, they keep it in their pocket.

Quote from: 3kpk3 on April 11, 2024, 10:03:53 AM

Both are completely pointless though in my opinion since gamblers can't really stay anonymous in most crypto gambling sites these days thanks to KYC at any point of time basically.

Yeah, the number of casinos that give you a room for privacy is shrinking every day.

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Quote from: Synchronice on April 12, 2024, 04:49:26 AM

Quote from: Taskford on April 10, 2024, 03:50:57 AM

Maybe VPN usage is fine if you are in region which is not been restricted by their management.

There are some casinos that allow VPN usage if the purpose of this process is not to bypass location restriction. In other words, absolutely every casino prohibits you from using VPN is you are trying to bypass location restriction but you have to always read casinos ToS because some casinos completely restrict you from using VPN, doesn't matter even if it's not used for bypassing restriction and is purely intended for protecting privacy.

Some tolerate VPN usage but somehow encounter those casino change their terms and use this as reason to block their withdrawal request. That's why if there's no important thing to do much better avoid using VPN since we know that the usage of that tool still questionable if this is really allowed in long run. Since its better to be safe than try to believe that there will be no changes to happen.

We can safely play on reputable casino like duelbits by using our real IP so there's no really any issue to get worried and use this tool since we think we can avoid it by using his. Reading TOS is always important since this could able to save those people who's still confuse on everything they want to know about the casino they choose to spend their time on.

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Quote from: Strongkored on April 12, 2024, 03:24:29 AM

This is definitely not a new game on Duelbits, because as far as I remember playing Plinko on Duelbits some time ago, unfortunately, I chose to replace it with another game because this game didn't run smoothly on my laptop and several times it seemed to stop working, I think it was because of the device I was using but when playing Plinko at different casinos everything went well without any problems.
I can play the other games on duelbits without any problems so only Plinko is the one that is having problems.

Correct, I think they launch Plinko 2 to 3 years ago if I’m not mistaken since I participated on their even during the Plinko launch to whoever first hit x10,000 multiplier will win 10K or 1K rewards no string attached.

I hate plinko games but I use this game before to farm efficiently wager since the house edge on this game is low while you play a very quick game since it allow simultaneous bet to occur.

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Achieving the highest multiplier from Plinko is certainly fun and depends on the risk choice and it must be the highest risk he chooses, especially if it is only a few tries, and my highest multiplier is only 1000x a few times but in different casinos.

You are very lucky to x1000 on plinko since it’s very hard to do that due to patience issue. I honestly can’t withstand playing this game for a long time just watching ball drops repeatedly. Cheesy

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Quote from: Findingnemo on April 11, 2024, 11:38:05 AM

Quote from: 3kpk3 on April 11, 2024, 10:03:53 AM

Both are completely pointless though in my opinion since gamblers can't really stay anonymous in most crypto gambling sites these days thanks to KYC at any point of time basically.

The reason for using VPN even after completing KYC to the casino is to protect their internet and financial activities from the middle party especially from ISP to certain level so it's okay to use with dedicated address for not revealing their actual location.

Yes, but still they can't gamble anonymously because the use of a VPN which is usually detected from certain countries sometimes makes the casino ask the user for KYC. I have occasionally tried to register using a VPN after completing the email confirmation. I opened the deposit address as usual, did it go smoothly then tried the withdrawal button but it looked like it was locked and the button was redirected to the KYC verification page, since then I have never used VPN again and use my ISP for internet services that are free from KYC.

This VPN problem is actually a problem that is often discussed in gambling forums because there are no casinos that seem to understand why VPN use is done, sometimes the casinos don't care about it, the rules are still the rules when caught by the system using different IPs, sometimes sometimes or from certain country IPs which are banned making users have to complete their KYC it can also hinder new users in centralized casinos, but it is a rule so no one can be blamed it all depends on the user and it seems it is indeed difficult to play anonymously

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Quote from: Taskford on April 10, 2024, 03:50:57 AM

Maybe VPN usage is fine if you are in region which is not been restricted by their management.

There are some casinos that allow VPN usage if the purpose of this process is not to bypass location restriction. In other words, absolutely every casino prohibits you from using VPN is you are trying to bypass location restriction but you have to always read casinos ToS because some casinos completely restrict you from using VPN, doesn't matter even if it's not used for bypassing restriction and is purely intended for protecting privacy.

Quote from: 3kpk3 on April 11, 2024, 10:03:53 AM

Also, trying to bypass restrictions using VPN is a recipe for disaster since sites can easily detect and screw them. Risky stuff!

They can't easily detect if you are using a VPN with dedicated IP but the problem arises when they ask you to submit KYC documents and then appears that you are a citizen of a country where it's restricted for you to play on this particular casino.

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Quote from: OcTradism on April 11, 2024, 09:26:26 PM

Do you know that at Duelbits, there is a Plinko game.

Hours ago, a Duelbit user bet with $6.8 and won big with $68,000 to cash out. The multiplier used for that bet is 10,000, it's unbelievable that the gambler used it and won with it.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/Duelbits/status/1778428872012308848

🔥We've just had one lucky Duelbits player hit a MASSIVE X10,000 multi on Plinko! Walking away with $68,000.00 on ONLY a $6.80 bet!

😎Quite the opposite of dropping the ball!

Check out Plinko on Duelbits and we hope to post about your wins as well! 👇
https://duel.bz/plinkox

This is definitely not a new game on Duelbits, because as far as I remember playing Plinko on Duelbits some time ago, unfortunately, I chose to replace it with another game because this game didn't run smoothly on my laptop and several times it seemed to stop working, I think it was because of the device I was using but when playing Plinko at different casinos everything went well without any problems.
I can play the other games on duelbits without any problems so only Plinko is the one that is having problems.
Achieving the highest multiplier from Plinko is certainly fun and depends on the risk choice and it must be the highest risk he chooses, especially if it is only a few tries, and my highest multiplier is only 1000x a few times but in different casinos.

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Quote from: OcTradism on April 11, 2024, 09:26:26 PM

Do you know that at Duelbits, there is a Plinko game.

Hours ago, a Duelbit user bet with $6.8 and won big with $68,000 to cash out. The multiplier used for that bet is 10,000, it's unbelievable that the gambler used it and won with it.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/Duelbits/status/1778428872012308848

🔥We've just had one lucky Duelbits player hit a MASSIVE X10,000 multi on Plinko! Walking away with $68,000.00 on ONLY a $6.80 bet!

😎Quite the opposite of dropping the ball!

Check out Plinko on Duelbits and we hope to post about your wins as well! 👇
https://duel.bz/plinkox

Plinko is one of my casino game, that I play to beat my boredom but I never got this lucky. Sad

Why God, why not me. Roll Eyes

That's really a big draw and whoever won probably the most happiest on that day.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 11, 2024, 11:02:40 PM

Quote from: dimonstration on April 11, 2024, 09:02:24 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on April 11, 2024, 08:58:13 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on April 11, 2024, 08:38:00 AM

But the later is using the service for bypassing their restriction which will end up in a ban along with their funds so we should use it for the right reasons not to violate the terms.

I'm just curious, if this will happen and the funds will be frozen. What will be the action of the casino, will they keep the funds and consider it as other income, or they will remit it to the proper agency which is under a certain government?

In normal scenario, if the cheater has no record of previous violation of ToS the deposit amount will be refunded to him while the winnings will be confiscated by the casino.

But in the event that user has previous violation of ToS then both the deposit and winning amount will be seize since casino will need to recover the previous amount that this cheater successfully withdrawn before.

I don't get the point honestly, especially this one on your reply

"since casino will need to recover the previous amount that this cheater successfully withdrawn before."

If the first offense was worth terminating an account, why would they allow a user to still gamble when prior to that there was already a report that a user has cheated by stealing funds in whatever ways? This is not the answer I need as I think it doesn't make sense at all, no offense, I just don't buy it.

Cheater do some trick to hide their track such as using different device, IP changer etc. to look like they are using different account while casino has a method to detect multiple account using a method which they don’t disclose publicly. It’s not that they are intentionally allowing it but they detect it once user withdraw the funds. Casino doesn’t care if you deposit whether you are a cheater or not, your problem will occur once you withdraw the funds because security already flagged the account.

You should visit more often the scam accusation board or use this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5482508 to ask facts about casino security.

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Quote from: dimonstration on April 11, 2024, 09:02:24 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on April 11, 2024, 08:58:13 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on April 11, 2024, 08:38:00 AM

But the later is using the service for bypassing their restriction which will end up in a ban along with their funds so we should use it for the right reasons not to violate the terms.

I'm just curious, if this will happen and the funds will be frozen. What will be the action of the casino, will they keep the funds and consider it as other income, or they will remit it to the proper agency which is under a certain government?

In normal scenario, if the cheater has no record of previous violation of ToS the deposit amount will be refunded to him while the winnings will be confiscated by the casino.

But in the event that user has previous violation of ToS then both the deposit and winning amount will be seize since casino will need to recover the previous amount that this cheater successfully withdrawn before.

I don't get the point honestly, especially this one on your reply

"since casino will need to recover the previous amount that this cheater successfully withdrawn before."

If the first offense was worth terminating an account, why would they allow a user to still gamble when prior to that there was already a report that a user has cheated by stealing funds in whatever ways? This is not the answer I need as I think it doesn't make sense at all, no offense, I just don't buy it.

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Do you know that at Duelbits, there is a Plinko game.

Hours ago, a Duelbit user bet with $6.8 and won big with $68,000 to cash out. The multiplier used for that bet is 10,000, it's unbelievable that the gambler used it and won with it.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/Duelbits/status/1778428872012308848

🔥We've just had one lucky Duelbits player hit a MASSIVE X10,000 multi on Plinko! Walking away with $68,000.00 on ONLY a $6.80 bet!

😎Quite the opposite of dropping the ball!

Check out Plinko on Duelbits and we hope to post about your wins as well! 👇
https://duel.bz/plinkox

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 11, 2024, 08:58:13 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on April 11, 2024, 08:38:00 AM

But the later is using the service for bypassing their restriction which will end up in a ban along with their funds so we should use it for the right reasons not to violate the terms.

I'm just curious, if this will happen and the funds will be frozen. What will be the action of the casino, will they keep the funds and consider it as other income, or they will remit it to the proper agency which is under a certain government?

Some casinos I know when they found a user violating the TOS like cheating in a way of stealing or getting money from the casino, they could freeze the money and take it back since it was won by cheating, but by using a VPN to bypass restriction, does it still fall on the same category?

I guess so but it varies cases by case, if it just from bypassing the restriction then casino has every right to deny the withdrawals and terminate that account. The later part they could keep it if it doesn't involve in any tainted activities.

Quote from: 3kpk3 on April 11, 2024, 10:03:53 AM

Both are completely pointless though in my opinion since gamblers can't really stay anonymous in most crypto gambling sites these days thanks to KYC at any point of time basically.

The reason for using VPN even after completing KYC to the casino is to protect their internet and financial activities from the middle party especially from ISP to certain level so it's okay to use with dedicated address for not revealing their actual location.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on April 11, 2024, 08:38:00 AM

Major difference in both these kinds of people, former one wo wants to keep his privacy can use VPN as long as it's allowed by the casinos after they got verified for their withdrawals.

But the later is using the service for bypassing their restriction which will end up in a ban along with their funds so we should use it for the right reasons not to violate the terms.

Both are completely pointless though in my opinion since gamblers can't really stay anonymous in most crypto gambling sites these days thanks to KYC at any point of time basically.

Also, trying to bypass restrictions using VPN is a recipe for disaster since sites can easily detect and screw them. Risky stuff!

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 11, 2024, 08:58:13 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on April 11, 2024, 08:38:00 AM

But the later is using the service for bypassing their restriction which will end up in a ban along with their funds so we should use it for the right reasons not to violate the terms.

I'm just curious, if this will happen and the funds will be frozen. What will be the action of the casino, will they keep the funds and consider it as other income, or they will remit it to the proper agency which is under a certain government?

In normal scenario, if the cheater has no record of previous violation of ToS the deposit amount will be refunded to him while the winnings will be confiscated by the casino.

But in the event that user has previous violation of ToS then both the deposit and winning amount will be seize since casino will need to recover the previous amount that this cheater successfully withdrawn before.

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Some casinos I know when they found a user violating the TOS like cheating in a way of stealing or getting money from the casino, they could freeze the money and take it back since it was won by cheating, but by using a VPN to bypass restriction, does it still fall on the same category?

It’s still same category, the only difference is the deposit amount will be refunded.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on April 11, 2024, 08:38:00 AM

But the later is using the service for bypassing their restriction which will end up in a ban along with their funds so we should use it for the right reasons not to violate the terms.

I'm just curious, if this will happen and the funds will be frozen. What will be the action of the casino, will they keep the funds and consider it as other income, or they will remit it to the proper agency which is under a certain government?

Some casinos I know when they found a user violating the TOS like cheating in a way of stealing or getting money from the casino, they could freeze the money and take it back since it was won by cheating, but by using a VPN to bypass restriction, does it still fall on the same category?

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Quote from: piebeyb on April 10, 2024, 06:39:17 AM

I think we all know the problem of VPNs, this is something that is often discussed on gambling boards apart from gambling addiction, I think many casino sites have different views on users who use VPNs, so far I have often tried sites that have slightly stricter rules and it's true when I using a free VPN, my account was asked to complete KYC, whereas on other sites I was never asked to complete KYC, I think there are actually two reasons for using this VPN, namely people want to use it because of privacy or because they can't access the site because it is blocked by the internet provider in his place.

Major difference in both these kinds of people, former one wo wants to keep his privacy can use VPN as long as it's allowed by the casinos after they got verified for their withdrawals.

But the later is using the service for bypassing their restriction which will end up in a ban along with their funds so we should use it for the right reasons not to violate the terms.

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Additionally, Duelbits has also been operating for a long time as a crypto casino. From this age it can be proven that Duelbits is not a small casino and is just operating so there are doubts about them.
Professionally, being able to work with Duelbits is an honor. There are bound to be problems, but we like solutions that don't harm any party.
I understand that many people admit that Duelbits is a great crypto casino. Regarding costs, I think that's part of their privacy that is impossible to reveal to the public.

In all the years they operate, I have not seen a valid scam accusation yet on this forum, which also says a lot. I have had some problems in the past, due to the usage of a free VPN (my fault) but in the end, everything was resolved and I could still withdraw my money.

It's good that you know what the reputation of a big casino called Duelbits is. It's actually very easy to avoid problems with casinos, the terms and conditions are provided for you to read and comply with. If you are honest when playing at the casino, perhaps big problems such as losing money will not occur.

VPN is good if it is used where we need it. If you as a player do not meet the requirements set by the casino but you insist on using a VPN to hide your IP so you can play, you do so at your own risk and if a problem occurs, it is not the casino's fault.

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Same here, I consider it waste of time since you can’t gain anything by doing that while most of the slot games is boring if played in demo. Winning money is what makes slot games intense and fun.

Most importantly, You might hit max win on demo which is just a shame to the opportunity like that while you can use small amount on bets to risk small to have a potential huge win.

I manage to win a max win on San Quentin slot games but on demo mode. After that, I never play demo and always bet the minimum when doing relax slot game play just in case I manage to hit max win again.

I partially agree with you here. Playing in demo mode/fun mode in gambling sites is usually boring, but it helps teach newbies about the various terms associated with various gambling games easily.

Also, the house edge in demo mode is usually lower when compared to the house edge in real money mode based on my observations.

this is the same with trading
you need some real skin in the game to be able to feel it for real
everyone can be a hero when there's no risk at all in the line

Taleb has a really good book on this subject, "skin in the game", definitely worth a read.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on April 10, 2024, 02:12:58 AM

Quote from: bangjoe on April 08, 2024, 01:39:04 PM

This means that if you want to use a VPN, whether free or paid, you need to confirm with the casino service first to confirm that you are using a VPN to pave the way because your IP is not limited to access the casino service you are going to.

And it would also be nice not to use a VPN at all, if we can access it without the need to use a VPN, there is no risk whatsoever and we can be much more free to access or visit the casino.

AFAIK, usage of VPN is allowed so asking the support will not give the clear answer which depends on what IP that you have used to access and its on our own that is why it's better not to use VPN at all or pay the premium and get dedicated proxy address for privacy purpose to avoid exposing your internet activity to your internet provider and nothing else.

I think we all know the problem of VPNs, this is something that is often discussed on gambling boards apart from gambling addiction, I think many casino sites have different views on users who use VPNs, so far I have often tried sites that have slightly stricter rules and it's true when I using a free VPN, my account was asked to complete KYC, whereas on other sites I was never asked to complete KYC, I think there are actually two reasons for using this VPN, namely people want to use it because of privacy or because they can't access the site because it is blocked by the internet provider in his place.

I may never want to try using a VPN again to gamble on my main account at several casinos including on this site, but it's true that there are times when we consult service support so that mistakes don't occur that cause harm to us in the future, but whatever it is It's true that it would feel comfortable not to use it. I'm looking for an internet provider that doesn't block my access to gambling sites so that it's easier to gamble without obstacles and even a little more comfortable. Grin

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Quote from: Taskford on April 10, 2024, 03:50:57 AM

Maybe VPN usage is fine if you are in region which is not been restricted by their management.

But if you are in those restricted list countries then better not to use it just to bypass the restriction since still you might really encounter some issues since I maybe guess that this is not allowed to do. If they are still skeptical regarding on this and to avoid getting any further confusion towards certain implementation or usage maybe they should contact the support if they have time.

But if they don't have or they are shy to ask then maybe best to avoid using this app or tool so that they can stay away on any possible issues that might trigger for using VPN.

It's worth noting that Duelbits restrictions by IP address work a bit strangely. For example, their ToS contains a list of banned regions, which includes such countries as Germany and the Netherlands. However, if I use a VPN with an IP address from Germany, the site is available without any problems, while if I use another VPN with an IP address from the Netherlands, the site immediately displays a pop-up window that the region is blocked.

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