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In my opinion, it is always good for people to trust the TOS more than what the support guy says, if the TOS says that the person must provide true information, if the TOS says that the person should not use a VPN to hide the person's location , so that person should not use a VPN, even if some support guy says they can use it, even if a forum representative says they can use a VPN, while the TOS is prohibiting it, so the person should rely more on what is written in the TOS. because the day the casino blocks the person's account because they were using VPN, the casino will use the TOS as the reason they blocked the person's account and will say that the person agreed to those terms of service

You should report the customer support if you encounter one of them that sending message that is not written on their ToS. You are describing a mediocre casino that hires random person to do the cs job.  Cheesy

So far I never encounter an incompetent cs that replying post that doesn’t indicated in their ToS since they usually attached link to the ToS for reference of what they are saying if the question is about ToS matters. You’re right that you should trust only the casino ToS but it’s not wrong either to trust the casino support since their job is to answer your quest  which means their word is official.

If the support says casino allows ToS then I will believe on it but there’s nothing wrong to double check it either to make sure.
legendary
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But these action can make some problem with your account.

I mean, someday you could be wina lot maybe a hundred thousand dollars and suddenly the casino brought these activity case to your case and required you to complete a document (especially the hardest document on Level 3/4) while most third countries like asia cannot provided these.

Make your money getting stuck on there, from my perspective better use your raw network rather than VPN. Unless, it's decentralized casino.
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There's no point using VPN for privacy matters while they handed out their KYC to a platform and since they know that using VPN is been discourage to use if this is really the case happening to him then much better if they avoid using any tool that can change their IP since its expected that this will trigger this verification process since they will verify if the account still intact with the real user.

And since they are using a legit platform then I guess the only thing to do is to comply to what been asked since once everything will be cleared out for sure they can use their account the same as what they do to do it earlier.

Still it can help you to maintain your privacy and it's not to hide from the platform you are accessing but from the middle man which is your ISP may track these data and you don't want them to know which casino that you are accessing on regular basis but it's kind of tricky when it comes to accessing the casino that is why it is important to ask the support usage of VPN is allowed if someone wants to have the privacy I am talking and then buy dedicated IP which comes at premium cost.

In my opinion, it is always good for people to trust the TOS more than what the support guy says, if the TOS says that the person must provide true information, if the TOS says that the person should not use a VPN to hide the person's location , so that person should not use a VPN, even if some support guy says they can use it, even if a forum representative says they can use a VPN, while the TOS is prohibiting it, so the person should rely more on what is written in the TOS. because the day the casino blocks the person's account because they were using VPN, the casino will use the TOS as the reason they blocked the person's account and will say that the person agreed to those terms of service

and if the person says that they asked the casino support guy if they could use the vpn and the casino support guy said he could and there were no problems, the casino can argue that the support guy made a mistake and that the TOS and what is it worth? and the casino will be right, the TOS is what it really counts. That's why it's very important that people don't let themselves be fooled by what the casino representative is saying, they should just believe the things that are written in the casino's tome.
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There's no point using VPN for privacy matters while they handed out their KYC to a platform and since they know that using VPN is been discourage to use if this is really the case happening to him then much better if they avoid using any tool that can change their IP since its expected that this will trigger this verification process since they will verify if the account still intact with the real user.

And since they are using a legit platform then I guess the only thing to do is to comply to what been asked since once everything will be cleared out for sure they can use their account the same as what they do to do it earlier.

Still it can help you to maintain your privacy and it's not to hide from the platform you are accessing but from the middle man which is your ISP may track these data and you don't want them to know which casino that you are accessing on regular basis but it's kind of tricky when it comes to accessing the casino that is why it is important to ask the support usage of VPN is allowed if someone wants to have the privacy I am talking and then buy dedicated IP which comes at premium cost.
legendary
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Just watch a new video on youtube from these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEoSbwrA_bQ

It's been a long time not playing on (Duelbits), seem like Duelbits have newest original game (Blackjack) on theme. On the newest game update, they pull some update on side-bet (21+3 & PP).

I guess, looking forward for test these maybe in the middle of month after my paycheck ~xd.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset

I agree we could move on for other topics as well

does duelbits have a transparency page on earnings kind like rollbit? asking out of curiosity would be interesting to know that...
since a lot of the things are possible to track via dune analytics like deposits/withdrawals
The aim is to find out the transaction history, such as how much has been deposited and what withdrawals have been made by a player.
I didn't pay attention to whether there was this feature because I played without caring about how much money I had played because I played to entertain myself.

BTW, that's an interesting discussion because gamblers also need to occasionally know how many transactions have been made.

If you are gambling with big money than I would always keep track of all the deposits and withdrawals and calculate my ROI when placing sportsbets. Some years ago, when I was more active, I tracked everything in an excelfile and that gave some interesting insights.

which insights? can you share a little bit more?

tracking is essential so we can learn with our mistakes and our right decisions, as well as to have a clear picture of where you are now.
when you track you only keep notes on amount of the bet and odds or you track something else like how you felt that day, what was your process to decide, so forth and so on?
legendary
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It's annoying that my withdrawals are getting flagged for manual review and I have to wait it out for a day.
There are some suspicious things that can trigger their automatic tools to flag your account. Then to be sure, they will go next with manual review and investigation, it's for good of your account.

Did you contact their live support?
https://duelbits.com/support

If their staff said you have to wait, which I guess they will tell you so, please wait.

You will have result and notification from them when the review is completed.

The Company reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. The Company reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in the company’s sole discretion. The company also reserves the right to disclose a User’s information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy, and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure.

If this is happening more often than it's supposed to be then something from the user end is triggering the security protocol of the casino which can be lot of things but basically usage of VPN is one of the most reason why user has to undergo KYC while trying to withdraw. So anyone using casino better not to use VPN or just have a dedicated paid proxy IP if you guys feel privacy is that much important.

There's no point using VPN for privacy matters while they handed out their KYC to a platform and since they know that using VPN is been discourage to use if this is really the case happening to him then much better if they avoid using any tool that can change their IP since its expected that this will trigger this verification process since they will verify if the account still intact with the real user.

And since they are using a legit platform then I guess the only thing to do is to comply to what been asked since once everything will be cleared out for sure they can use their account the same as what they do to do it earlier.
hero member
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It's annoying that my withdrawals are getting flagged for manual review and I have to wait it out for a day.
There are some suspicious things that can trigger their automatic tools to flag your account. Then to be sure, they will go next with manual review and investigation, it's for good of your account.

Did you contact their live support?
https://duelbits.com/support

If their staff said you have to wait, which I guess they will tell you so, please wait.

You will have result and notification from them when the review is completed.

The Company reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. The Company reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in the company’s sole discretion. The company also reserves the right to disclose a User’s information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy, and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure.

If this is happening more often than it's supposed to be then something from the user end is triggering the security protocol of the casino which can be lot of things but basically usage of VPN is one of the most reason why user has to undergo KYC while trying to withdraw. So anyone using casino better not to use VPN or just have a dedicated paid proxy IP if you guys feel privacy is that much important.
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I agree we could move on for other topics as well

does duelbits have a transparency page on earnings kind like rollbit? asking out of curiosity would be interesting to know that...
since a lot of the things are possible to track via dune analytics like deposits/withdrawals
The aim is to find out the transaction history, such as how much has been deposited and what withdrawals have been made by a player.
I didn't pay attention to whether there was this feature because I played without caring about how much money I had played because I played to entertain myself.

BTW, that's an interesting discussion because gamblers also need to occasionally know how many transactions have been made.

If you are gambling with big money than I would always keep track of all the deposits and withdrawals and calculate my ROI when placing sportsbets. Some years ago, when I was more active, I tracked everything in an excelfile and that gave some interesting insights.
hero member
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I agree we could move on for other topics as well

does duelbits have a transparency page on earnings kind like rollbit? asking out of curiosity would be interesting to know that...
since a lot of the things are possible to track via dune analytics like deposits/withdrawals
The aim is to find out the transaction history, such as how much has been deposited and what withdrawals have been made by a player.
I didn't pay attention to whether there was this feature because I played without caring about how much money I had played because I played to entertain myself.

BTW, that's an interesting discussion because gamblers also need to occasionally know how many transactions have been made.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset

After all, Duelbits has already said several times that user funds are safe, so I don't think there's any need to discuss this in the thread even though the money doesn't seem small to us, it's still not something complicated for Duelbits to convince its users that all user money is really safe and not there is even a slight loss, so that is what we have to emphasize to ourselves and be sure that they will not leave anyone here and continue to play as usual looking for profits in every game.

I think it's true what you said that it's best to forget about it because Duelbits didn't close their site with this hacking problem and everything is safe and even looks fine, so just believe in Duelbits, get back focused and get back to playing is what we need to do now don't continue discussing hacking, where we know that many big sites have had attacks like that and not only Duelbits has experienced it, so keep going back to gambling now focus on getting other profits, I'm sure everything will be fine and there's nothing that needs to be done. worry  Grin
That's why there's no need to worry about things whose nature has been explained wisely by the duelbits.
Continuing to discuss this issue in this thread will only be spam and if that happens, this is certainly not what we want.
It is very important to choose a large and reputable casino before playing. Duelbits has it all.

I hope this is the last one unless there are problems experienced by players then we will solve them here.

I agree we could move on for other topics as well

does duelbits have a transparency page on earnings kind like rollbit? asking out of curiosity would be interesting to know that...
since a lot of the things are possible to track via dune analytics like deposits/withdrawals
hero member
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After all, Duelbits has already said several times that user funds are safe, so I don't think there's any need to discuss this in the thread even though the money doesn't seem small to us, it's still not something complicated for Duelbits to convince its users that all user money is really safe and not there is even a slight loss, so that is what we have to emphasize to ourselves and be sure that they will not leave anyone here and continue to play as usual looking for profits in every game.

I think it's true what you said that it's best to forget about it because Duelbits didn't close their site with this hacking problem and everything is safe and even looks fine, so just believe in Duelbits, get back focused and get back to playing is what we need to do now don't continue discussing hacking, where we know that many big sites have had attacks like that and not only Duelbits has experienced it, so keep going back to gambling now focus on getting other profits, I'm sure everything will be fine and there's nothing that needs to be done. worry  Grin
That's why there's no need to worry about things whose nature has been explained wisely by the duelbits.
Continuing to discuss this issue in this thread will only be spam and if that happens, this is certainly not what we want.
It is very important to choose a large and reputable casino before playing. Duelbits has it all.

I hope this is the last one unless there are problems experienced by players then we will solve them here.
legendary
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Forget about this. Focus on the games available on duelbits.
Good advice! By the way, they lost $4 Million USD but these discussions and articles from news websites promote and create a little marketing for Duelbits, so, it's not like $4 Million was lost in nothing.
Thank You. It is important to be reminded and redirected.

As long as the condition or situation can be resolved well without any harm to the party, I think it is still within normal limits.
Hacking is not something that is desired, but for the perpetrator, hacking is something that has been planned from the start.
The perpetrators also will not include small casinos that do not have large funds on the list of targets to be hacked.

Duelbits casino is large and has been operating for a short period of time like new casinos. If duelbits is hacked, in my opinion duelbits is definitely not a small casino but a big casino.
After all, Duelbits has already said several times that user funds are safe, so I don't think there's any need to discuss this in the thread even though the money doesn't seem small to us, it's still not something complicated for Duelbits to convince its users that all user money is really safe and not there is even a slight loss, so that is what we have to emphasize to ourselves and be sure that they will not leave anyone here and continue to play as usual looking for profits in every game.

I think it's true what you said that it's best to forget about it because Duelbits didn't close their site with this hacking problem and everything is safe and even looks fine, so just believe in Duelbits, get back focused and get back to playing is what we need to do now don't continue discussing hacking, where we know that many big sites have had attacks like that and not only Duelbits has experienced it, so keep going back to gambling now focus on getting other profits, I'm sure everything will be fine and there's nothing that needs to be done. worry  Grin
legendary
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It's annoying that my withdrawals are getting flagged for manual review and I have to wait it out for a day.
There are some suspicious things that can trigger their automatic tools to flag your account. Then to be sure, they will go next with manual review and investigation, it's for good of your account.

Did you contact their live support?
https://duelbits.com/support

If their staff said you have to wait, which I guess they will tell you so, please wait.

You will have result and notification from them when the review is completed.

The Company reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. The Company reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in the company’s sole discretion. The company also reserves the right to disclose a User’s information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy, and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure.
hero member
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Forget about this. Focus on the games available on duelbits.
Good advice! By the way, they lost $4 Million USD but these discussions and articles from news websites promote and create a little marketing for Duelbits, so, it's not like $4 Million was lost in nothing.
Thank You. It is important to be reminded and redirected.

As long as the condition or situation can be resolved well without any harm to the party, I think it is still within normal limits.
Hacking is not something that is desired, but for the perpetrator, hacking is something that has been planned from the start.
The perpetrators also will not include small casinos that do not have large funds on the list of targets to be hacked.

Duelbits casino is large and has been operating for a short period of time like new casinos. If duelbits is hacked, in my opinion duelbits is definitely not a small casino but a big casino.
hero member
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We are talking about $4.6 million here, and they still continue their operation. That speaks to how liquid they are and how much they value their reputation.
Stake lost $40 Million in hack, Duelbit's hack is nothing compared to them. I don't know what to say, it's good that Duelbits didn't lose more than that, I hope that is a tiny amount that they put in hot wallet and $4 Million is not a big amount for them. If that's the real case, then I love duelbits for being smart.



For having that hacking issue which it didn't create any panic and everything still at normal condition despite of unfortunate hacking incident they experience then we can say that Duelbits is fine even if they lose that huge amount of money. We can still see people continue to participate and gamble so for sure they can recover that in just short period of time. The incident happen creates good satisfaction for people since despite of that incident happen to them they manage to control the situation and not create any fear to the people who use their casino. Also base on the flow of discussion regarding on the topic seems everyone is impressed on the action done by the management.


Yeah, and Stake as well. Now, Duelbits has reached the level of Stake.
I assume, Stake is a lot bigger.

Yeah stake is a lot bigger but there's no problem duelbits will heading that way.
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We are talking about $4.6 million here, and they still continue their operation. That speaks to how liquid they are and how much they value their reputation.
Stake lost $40 Million in hack, Duelbit's hack is nothing compared to them. I don't know what to say, it's good that Duelbits didn't lose more than that, I hope that is a tiny amount that they put in hot wallet and $4 Million is not a big amount for them. If that's the real case, then I love duelbits for being smart.

Yeah, and Stake as well. Now, Duelbits has reached the level of Stake.
I assume, Stake is a lot bigger.

Forget about this. Focus on the games available on duelbits.
Good advice! By the way, they lost $4 Million USD but these discussions and articles from news websites promote and create a little marketing for Duelbits, so, it's not like $4 Million was lost in nothing.
legendary
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Regarding the hacking of sites, any site that has its platform to make money move because it is easily hackable, nothing else can be accepted but that, as far as I am concerned things can happen for any type of company, be it for a casino, be it for an exchange, they all have the same risk, they are hackers, and the important thing about this is that the casino or the site that has been created have enough strength to continue operating Without the Clients were Affected, that is what we have to see, of course we are people who can generate different ways of doing things and seeing where we will put our money , they have already given an example of casinos, exchanges, and If there are Binance-level hackers capable of hacking into the 2FA security layer, then this is very likely to happen.

The important thing that one should see is that these sites like Duelbits , stake.com and Some more that have been hacked because they have come out ahead and what is most striking is that they have not compromised the money of Others , because it is very ugly If we are in a casino and suddenly nothing can be done, they close it for a while and people's money is kept there while they do investigations, authorities go , no, things can't be seen like that , then we have to rescue them These systems have been Responsible with what they have and what they have done to get Ahead, our money when it is in an exchange, or casino is no longer ours, it belongs to where it is, that is what must be understood.


websites with an structure like exchanges (and this includes casinos) usually have to have a hot wallet with funds that will be more vulnerable but that the users will have more access too if they want to withdraw
but they usually have layers of protection with a cold wallet and a wallet that is airgapped (even an extra layer of security over cold ones)

I wouldn't say it's always easy to hack them
you have to verify how the hack was done, if elaborate phishings, inside jobs or something else

That's right, what I think about this is that when there is a type of hacking in this way, I believe and dare to think that there may be complicity, because with so many SHA-256 style passwords, I think that things can be very different and difficult to access, for example I don't know if you remember the Binance hack, they hacked the 2FA, and that can be and turns out to be something from another world, really the bots and the programmers who do something like that are in another world, things can be different.

Hacks of this style can occur in casinos and it is true, they must have their wallets active, otherwise the casinos would make withdrawals manually and honestly that is a problem, in fact I am one of those who think that when a casino becomes to make and execute withdrawals in that way is because something bad is about to happen. Sometimes I have thought that this is something similar to a scam, perhaps what they are trying to steal is that active wallet.

In this order of ideas I say something, like the security of a casino, and it is basically money, and the money must be very well protected, so in that sense, money is the responsibility of many, and not just of a few people, in This things can be very determining, for me the people who are in the safe, security of the casinos must be made up of professional people, specialized in networks and security with constant updates that they make and apart from those white hat hackers who are always active looking for vulnerabilities, casinos must be very intelligent to attract this type of people, all because the security of a casino does not look so vulnerable.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
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Regarding the hacking of sites, any site that has its platform to make money move because it is easily hackable, nothing else can be accepted but that, as far as I am concerned things can happen for any type of company, be it for a casino, be it for an exchange, they all have the same risk, they are hackers, and the important thing about this is that the casino or the site that has been created have enough strength to continue operating Without the Clients were Affected, that is what we have to see, of course we are people who can generate different ways of doing things and seeing where we will put our money , they have already given an example of casinos, exchanges, and If there are Binance-level hackers capable of hacking into the 2FA security layer, then this is very likely to happen.

The important thing that one should see is that these sites like Duelbits , stake.com and Some more that have been hacked because they have come out ahead and what is most striking is that they have not compromised the money of Others , because it is very ugly If we are in a casino and suddenly nothing can be done, they close it for a while and people's money is kept there while they do investigations, authorities go , no, things can't be seen like that , then we have to rescue them These systems have been Responsible with what they have and what they have done to get Ahead, our money when it is in an exchange, or casino is no longer ours, it belongs to where it is, that is what must be understood.


websites with an structure like exchanges (and this includes casinos) usually have to have a hot wallet with funds that will be more vulnerable but that the users will have more access too if they want to withdraw
but they usually have layers of protection with a cold wallet and a wallet that is airgapped (even an extra layer of security over cold ones)

I wouldn't say it's always easy to hack them
you have to verify how the hack was done, if elaborate phishings, inside jobs or something else
legendary
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All sites that have a good level of security can also sometimes be hacked, not all loopholes can be closed perfectly and we never know what the hacker's motive is for taking the funds, I'm sure Duelbits will learn a lot from their mistakes, as long as they can still claim all the funds safe, all users should no longer need to worry about that and discuss this issue, because Duelbits continues to operate as usual and has not stopped their operations, so everyone can still gamble as usual.
Absolutely. Even Binance which is the top exchange encounter multiple hack in the past despite they the most advanced security on their field. The reason why services like Duelbits with strong security still being hack is because is they are popular which means they are the common target by hacker.

The more popular the casino is means the more possible security breach it will encounter that’s why they need to frequently upgrade their security as time goes by. This kind of hack incident will make them more secure because they learn how to counter this threat to avoid it in the future.
I do not think that nearly 5 million dollars is "pocket change" for them, it is still a lot of money, but it is also not more than what they have obviously. Plus they are a casino, so they print money anyway, the house edge makes sure of that. Even if you consider all the money in the deposited amounts, you will realize that how much of it will be withdrawn anyway?

I do not think that most of them would, they will either be lost by gambling or just left in there. So they should be fine, it shouldn't really be an issue for them. The thing is that we should consider this "hack" to be not that worth much to just fuss about, they should be fine of course. In any case, they should hope to not have any issues regarding this ever again to be fine of course.
As long as there is a money circulation system in it, I don't think the money will look like a lot, but that doesn't mean that 5 million dollars is also small, let's say like this, if a private bank has a lot of money because many of their customers put their money in that bank, but when all their customers withdraw all their money, of course the bank will collapse, as will the casino, no matter how big they are, as long as their users still trust the casino and put their money on this site, everything is still safe because there is money circulating in it.

Just try if all users withdrew all their money from the casino it would definitely have the same impact on the fate of the bank, but I believe that the casino's profits are very large so the loss of 5 million dollars can still be overcome and replaced by the casino, after all they have said that all users' money is safe and there is no loss, so everyone will not feel panic about withdrawing all their money from this site because they still trust this site and their money remains safe there. We can never feel whether the value lost is small or large except for the casino itself.

as usual saying an amount of money is big or small is a matter of reference and what you are comparing it to
for a personal bankroll 5 million is quite a lot but for a country it's peanuts.
simple concept but that we usually forget about.

Regarding the hacking of sites, any site that has its platform to make money move because it is easily hackable, nothing else can be accepted but that, as far as I am concerned things can happen for any type of company, be it for a casino, be it for an exchange, they all have the same risk, they are hackers, and the important thing about this is that the casino or the site that has been created have enough strength to continue operating Without the Clients were Affected, that is what we have to see, of course we are people who can generate different ways of doing things and seeing where we will put our money , they have already given an example of casinos, exchanges, and If there are Binance-level hackers capable of hacking into the 2FA security layer, then this is very likely to happen.

The important thing that one should see is that these sites like Duelbits , stake.com and Some more that have been hacked because they have come out ahead and what is most striking is that they have not compromised the money of Others , because it is very ugly If we are in a casino and suddenly nothing can be done, they close it for a while and people's money is kept there while they do investigations, authorities go , no, things can't be seen like that , then we have to rescue them These systems have been Responsible with what they have and what they have done to get Ahead, our money when it is in an exchange, or casino is no longer ours, it belongs to where it is, that is what must be understood.
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