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Quote from: Arcas on October 20, 2020, 06:48:06 AM

Their "well known" user Drewbills: https://twitter.com/DrewBills_
He claims to win 80.000$ with Duelbits casino.
As you can see in the pictures below, this has been completely manipulated and this user has been hired by the casinos to post these videos. Obviously, Duelbits paid this user money to post this video.

Dude, you should do more research.
Drew is a "feature buyer," and it's well documented in his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZZ3l81E3AKBvJzYXxqjz0A
He may or may not get paid for promoting the video and various casinos, but the winning is legit.

It's similar when some users got paid $50 for a signature campaign, used the money to gamble, got lucky, and brag his winnings here.

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This does not mean that they have paid a lot of money to the winners in a short time, they also have to give a large amount of free money to others. It's not like that and I don't see that that's what they should do. If they give free money, it is really small, especially for beginners to test the games they have. And that's up to you if you want to play on their platform after you try to play here with the free bonus you got.

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Quote from: Arcas on October 19, 2020, 01:24:21 PM

I am starting to have more and more doubts about this site. They claim to have paid out $ 85,000 in 5 minutes (which I question, I feel it was cleverly put together and manipulated).
If this is really the case, then you have a budget, but apparently there is no budget otherwise you will give away coupons with a higher value and not a coupon with the astronomic amount of 0.50 Euro. A joke.

Why would DuelBits increase promotional coupon amount if users can use auto-register or 10min emails to create thousands of steam accounts, login and abuse casino?

When you meet promotional booth in supermarkets, food companies offer you to take a small portion just to taste. They dont give you "tons of products" for free. Even though they huge turnover and budgets. So why would gambling sites give more than they give now?

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Quote from: webtricks on October 20, 2020, 11:07:35 AM

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Quote from: webtricks on October 19, 2020, 02:20:25 PM

Hey @duelbits,

~snipped bot query~

3. How is the EOS block ID retrieved after last participant joins in? Is it retrieved from self-running node or third-party API? Don't you think simply using EOS Block ID may not be the best way to ensure fairness since around 2 new EOS blocks are created every second which potentially gives enough room to test-check dice values with different Block hashes and choose the EOS Block which favors the bot's position in the duel? For example, after all players join in, script calculates result with EOS Block No. 147976879 to 147976890 (it will only take 4-5 seconds to do so) and then pick the block let say, 147976884 among 12 tested blocks which generates dice value that favors the bot's position. There is no way a player can verify that immediately created new EOS Block is used in the calculation! Don't you think using Ethereum Block hash would be better alternative since new Ethereum block is mined after 10-60 seconds which gives enough time to the player to manually check whether the new block hash mined immediately after the last player joined is used for calculating the dice value or not?

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Hi @webtricks, thanks for your concerns I hope this clears things up.
1. When every player in a duel has voted in favor of a bot, a bot will join the duel in the next available slot.
2. Every player's position -- human or bot -- is dictated by when they join the duel. If there's a bot in slot 1, it's likely that the creator of the duel left after human players joined. If the last human player in a duel leaves (i.e. only bots remain), the duel is cancelled.
3. Dice Duels is a very fast-paced game, and players won't want to wait 10-60s for the next Ethereum block to be mined. The fast EOS block times allow a more enjoyable experience for players.
4. No, the only times the position of a player changes is if a player above them leaves the Duel.

Thanks for the clarification on bots.

EOS Network itself is an ideal blockchain for creating gambling dapps but off-chain solution currently in use on DuelBits is adequate as well so no problem. However, I am still not convinced about using EOS for fairness especially when only block hash is to be used in 'provably fair script'. There is no way a player can ensure that EOS block is picked randomly and not after test-checking the other variables with different blocks. If you think Ethereum block time would kill the pace of the game then best solution is 'TRON'. New Tron block is validated after every 3 seconds elapsed. That would be sufficient for a player to manually check that immediately next or mostly 2nd or 3rd block validated after last player joined is used in the calculation. It will kill any advantage available for house to cheat as well as won't kill the enjoyment for the players.

Also, can you tell which timestamp does the 'Bet History' shows:

Is it the time at which I join the duel or when result starts to draw or when drawing process is over or when duel is created by the creator? If possible, can you provide the timestamp on the round pop-up screen (this screen: https://duelbits.com/duels/297390) for every round right after last player joins in and right before block hash is retrieved so player can compare the timestamp of retrieving process with the timestamp of validation of block chosen in case you decide to go with TRON blockchain.

The timestamps in the bet history are for when a bet is placed, not when the round begins. Per your concerns, we have added an "End Time" timestamp when the last player joins a duel. By comparing this timestamp with the EOS block, you will be able to confirm that the EOS block is selected before the hash is known. We understand that this solution isn't perfect, and we will look into potentially selecting an EOS block further in the future (~5 seconds) or switching to the Tron blockchain. Thank you again for raising these concerns, and please let us know if there's anything else we can do to help make our platform more provably fair!

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 19, 2020, 08:26:12 AM

On your case, is the 1-5 minutes the time you need to wait blockchain confirmation or the time you need to wait for the site to send the withdrawal?

It is for the site to send the withdrawal, I got different time delay experience, sometimes it is less than a minute sometimes it takes much longer, but I can say it takes less than 5 minutes. The time length of BTC transfer's block confirmation is another story.

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Quote from: duelbits on October 19, 2020, 05:37:59 PM

Quote from: webtricks on October 19, 2020, 02:20:25 PM

Hey @duelbits,

~snipped bot query~

3. How is the EOS block ID retrieved after last participant joins in? Is it retrieved from self-running node or third-party API? Don't you think simply using EOS Block ID may not be the best way to ensure fairness since around 2 new EOS blocks are created every second which potentially gives enough room to test-check dice values with different Block hashes and choose the EOS Block which favors the bot's position in the duel? For example, after all players join in, script calculates result with EOS Block No. 147976879 to 147976890 (it will only take 4-5 seconds to do so) and then pick the block let say, 147976884 among 12 tested blocks which generates dice value that favors the bot's position. There is no way a player can verify that immediately created new EOS Block is used in the calculation! Don't you think using Ethereum Block hash would be better alternative since new Ethereum block is mined after 10-60 seconds which gives enough time to the player to manually check whether the new block hash mined immediately after the last player joined is used for calculating the dice value or not?

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Hi @webtricks, thanks for your concerns I hope this clears things up.
1. When every player in a duel has voted in favor of a bot, a bot will join the duel in the next available slot.
2. Every player's position -- human or bot -- is dictated by when they join the duel. If there's a bot in slot 1, it's likely that the creator of the duel left after human players joined. If the last human player in a duel leaves (i.e. only bots remain), the duel is cancelled.
3. Dice Duels is a very fast-paced game, and players won't want to wait 10-60s for the next Ethereum block to be mined. The fast EOS block times allow a more enjoyable experience for players.
4. No, the only times the position of a player changes is if a player above them leaves the Duel.

Thanks for the clarification on bots.

EOS Network itself is an ideal blockchain for creating gambling dapps but off-chain solution currently in use on DuelBits is adequate as well so no problem. However, I am still not convinced about using EOS for fairness especially when only block hash is to be used in 'provably fair script'. There is no way a player can ensure that EOS block is picked randomly and not after test-checking the other variables with different blocks. If you think Ethereum block time would kill the pace of the game then best solution is 'TRON'. New Tron block is validated after every 3 seconds elapsed. That would be sufficient for a player to manually check that immediately next or mostly 2nd or 3rd block validated after last player joined is used in the calculation. It will kill any advantage available for house to cheat as well as won't kill the enjoyment for the players.

Also, can you tell which timestamp does the 'Bet History' shows:

Is it the time at which I join the duel or when result starts to draw or when drawing process is over or when duel is created by the creator? If possible, can you provide the timestamp on the round pop-up screen (this screen: https://duelbits.com/duels/297390) for every round right after last player joins in and right before block hash is retrieved so player can compare the timestamp of retrieving process with the timestamp of validation of block chosen in case you decide to go with TRON blockchain.

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Quote from: Arcas on October 20, 2020, 06:48:06 AM

~nonsense

You are so stupid, holy shit. Have you ever gambled at any site in your life? You seem to be completely clueless and you are just making yourself out to be a fool.

If I look at his "evidence", I would say: NO!

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Quote from: Arcas on October 20, 2020, 06:48:06 AM

I have reasonable evidence for this fake circus.
-sniped-
Now what would be the odds of that? I think there are even better odds to bet on and the chance that the Covid virus tomorrow will be completely disappeared will be much bigger, lol.

If your evidences are based on the odds of hitting $80k would small so that its impossible to hit that then you are the complete circus clown around here. I've seen alot more streamers that hit higher amount than $80k .

The first image was from Sweet Bonanza slot and it was a bonus buy at $100 bet and the bonus buy would cost $10,000. Getting $80k from $10k bonus buy is literally only 8x. I've seen people hit 5000x , 3200x and 2500x on stream, its unlikely to happen but it did happen occasionally

Quote from: Hhampuz on October 20, 2020, 07:01:20 AM

You are so stupid, holy shit. Have you ever gambled at any site in your life? You seem to be completely clueless and you are just making yourself out to be a fool.

He probably wager 100 satoshi and hope to turn it into 1btc

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Meh.

Quote from: Arcas on October 20, 2020, 06:48:06 AM

~nonsense

You are so stupid, holy shit. Have you ever gambled at any site in your life? You seem to be completely clueless and you are just making yourself out to be a fool.

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Quote from: UserU on October 20, 2020, 05:53:58 AM

Quote from: toast on October 20, 2020, 04:28:11 AM

https://www.rollbit.com/ is this the site? seems its still active does this rollbit accepts only CSGO skin or also cryptocurrency?

Yeah.

It accepts both CSGO skins and crypto deposits and withdrawals.

Before you judge, I did not wrote this article on twitter. The only thing that can be said that their twitter campaign is completely fake.
Seems rollbit.com and duelbits.com are technically spoken not from the same owner, as I did a research on the registry from Curacao.

The only thing that can be concluded is that they did not pay 85.000$ in 5 minutes.

And yes, I have reasonable evidence for this fake circus.

Their "well known" user Drewbills: https://twitter.com/DrewBills_
He claims to win 80.000$ with Duelbits casino.
As you can see in the pictures below, this has been completely manipulated and this user has been hired by the casinos to post these videos. Obviously, Duelbits paid this user money to post this video. I think we are very close to fraud here. I have previously been careful with my statements, but can now clearly conclude that the intention of Duelbits is only to scam people and I want to warn people to play here.

The faked photo's, all by the same user who claim to won.

Now what would be the odds of that? I think there are even better odds to bet on and the chance that the Covid virus tomorrow will be completely disappeared will be much bigger, lol.
Duelbits: You are terrible manipulators

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Quote from: toast on October 20, 2020, 04:28:11 AM

https://www.rollbit.com/ is this the site? seems its still active does this rollbit accepts only CSGO skin or also cryptocurrency?

Yeah.

It accepts both CSGO skins and crypto deposits and withdrawals.

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Quote from: Arcas on October 20, 2020, 02:36:48 AM

There is a difference between attacking a casino and being critical of a casino. Apparently you enjoy investigating nonsensical things. Duelbits has manipulated her social media and bought fake accounts, that's one thing for sure. You don't even need proof for that.

There is also a difference between being critical and giving accusation without sufficient evidences.

Quote from: Arcas on October 20, 2020, 02:36:48 AM

There is no online casino in the world that pays out $ 85,000 in 5 minutes.
The videos are made by people who have been paid for it. People who win $ 85,000 in a casino will never, ever, do it live brodcast. There is no one in the world who does this.

Completely wrong, there are many casinos can do payout $85,000 instantly. $85,000 is less than 10btc at the current rate, there are many crypto casinos that can cover that amount but I wont mention it here. Better to find it yourself, try to find those casinos with huge bankroll, casinos that allows 10btc profit or more in single bet. When casinos has huge bankroll and allows such big profit per bet, it is very possible to process any amount of withdrawal which less than the max allowed profit per bet unless there is something need to be double checked/verified first.
There are also many gambling streamers in this world, who do live broadcast for their gambling activity. I did watch someone won $200k in a live broadcast not long time ago. So saying there is no one in the world who does this thing is completely wrong.

Quote from: Arcas on October 20, 2020, 02:36:48 AM

This casino has only had a gambling license for 3 months, but had a twitter account in February. Three weeks ago they had 20,000 followers and now suddenly 27,400 followers. That is an increase of 7,400 followers in 3 weeks. It means they buy fake followers to manipulate their status. What a circus.

Frankly speaking I laughed a lot when I read this, how can even you bring this case as a critic? Is this something unusual for you? Getting thousands follower in few weeks is very possible. Dont just look at how many new followers they get during a specific time, but take a look at what the account do during the specific period of time. You may say it is unusual or fishy if there are thousands new followers but duelbits did not do anything on twitter.

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I would appreciate if we didn't mention other sites in this thread. We are not affiliated with Rollbit.

We did not buy our twitter followers, please do your research before you continue to through these accusations around.
See below what gained us our followers recently.
https://twitter.com/LobanjicaCS/status/1313927025435045890

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https://www.rollbit.com/ is this the site? seems its still active does this rollbit accepts only CSGO skin or also cryptocurrency?

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Quote from: OcTradism on October 19, 2020, 08:50:09 PM

Quote from: Arcas on October 19, 2020, 01:24:21 PM

I am starting to have more and more doubts about this site. They claim to have paid out $ 85,000 in 5 minutes (which I question, I feel it was cleverly put together and manipulated).

Can you tell how did you doubt that? You can not accuse an exchange or a casino by simply talk. If you have findings to prove your doubt, bring it here and your doubt can be assessed by scam detectives.

Quote from: Arcas on October 13, 2020, 02:14:13 PM

To be honest, I don't understand what Cloudbet is doing. I have to admit, perhaps the player in question has also not acted clearly and properly using the site of a jurisdiction that is actually not allowed. However, Cloudbet must take responsibility for its professionalism and actions, and should have built in a better mechanism to ban customers. Cloudbet should also have asked for documentation much earlier. Cloudbet, take responsibility for your mistakes and pay this user, so that we can continue in this topic and you can still honor your name in some form.

Many ways to get your post count and you chose a bad way. Attack casino and manager.

I hope it helps, DuelBits and Hhampuz. Ignore him Grin

There is a difference between attacking a casino and being critical of a casino. Apparently you enjoy investigating nonsensical things. Duelbits has manipulated her social media and bought fake accounts, that's one thing for sure. You don't even need proof for that. There is no online casino in the world that pays out $ 85,000 in 5 minutes.
The videos are made by people who have been paid for it. People who win $ 85,000 in a casino will never, ever, do it live brodcast. There is no one in the world who does this.
This casino has only had a gambling license for 3 months, but had a twitter account in February. Three weeks ago they had 20,000 followers and now suddenly 27,400 followers. That is an increase of 7,400 followers in 3 weeks. It means they buy fake followers to manipulate their status. What a circus. I now expect some nice and fierce responses again, but that only indicates that you are in Duelbits' plot.

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Quote from: Arcas on October 19, 2020, 01:24:21 PM

I am starting to have more and more doubts about this site. They claim to have paid out $ 85,000 in 5 minutes (which I question, I feel it was cleverly put together and manipulated).

Can you tell how did you doubt that? You can not accuse an exchange or a casino by simply talk. If you have findings to prove your doubt, bring it here and your doubt can be assessed by scam detectives.

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If this is really the case, then you have a budget, but apparently there is no budget otherwise you will give away coupons with a higher value and not a coupon with the astronomic amount of 0.50 Euro. A joke.

The value for promo code is big and not a joke. Again how did you accuse the DuelBits does not have their budget for their operations and payments for gamblers?

Many ways to get your post count and you chose a bad way. Attack casino and manager.

I hope it helps, DuelBits and Hhampuz. Ignore him Grin

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Quote from: Arcas on October 19, 2020, 01:24:21 PM

I am starting to have more and more doubts about this site. They claim to have paid out $ 85,000 in 5 minutes (which I question, I feel it was cleverly put together and manipulated).
If this is really the case, then you have a budget, but apparently there is no budget otherwise you will give away coupons with a higher value and not a coupon with the astronomic amount of 0.50 Euro. A joke.

Now, I was going to be splendidly more arrogant than Hhampuz was, but leave it. I'll make you understand a simple thing my way:

We get free spins (leave this promo, let's talk about others) and there's no guarantee that you'll win even a dime with those free spins, yet you take them. Why? Because THEY ARE FREE (and don't tell me that you don't take free spins, I bet you'd have even taken benefits from the sites given by efialtis at BTCGOSU with his private promo links). There's nothing wrong with what you did, but then, what's the point in defaming a website which is giving you even a cent worth of a bet for free? If you were not satisfied with their promo, I guess you should have left. But what stopped you here and made you spew out shit about their promo?

VerveCasino.com* gave free spins and you can check their promo thread, none (except me who won around 1 EUR) has won over 0.18 EUR. Did they complain?

*I'm not endorsing nor blaming them, just using them as an example here

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Quote from: webtricks on October 19, 2020, 02:20:25 PM

Hey @duelbits,

I was trying the 'Dice Duels' with $0.50 promo and I have few doubts regarding the site's working:

1. What is the rule of 'bots' joining the duel? Is there any waiting time frame for the real players to join the duel before bots come in? What's the procedure?

2. How is the real users' position determined in case bots join the duel? I noticed that in one round bots were sitting on the first two positions while in the other round bots were sitting on 2nd to 10th position (refer images for more details):

3. How is the EOS block ID retrieved after last participant joins in? Is it retrieved from self-running node or third-party API? Don't you think simply using EOS Block ID may not be the best way to ensure fairness since around 2 new EOS blocks are created every second which potentially gives enough room to test-check dice values with different Block hashes and choose the EOS Block which favors the bot's position in the duel? For example, after all players join in, script calculates result with EOS Block No. 147976879 to 147976890 (it will only take 4-5 seconds to do so) and then pick the block let say, 147976884 among 12 tested blocks which generates dice value that favors the bot's position. There is no way a player can verify that immediately created new EOS Block is used in the calculation! Don't you think using Ethereum Block hash would be better alternative since new Ethereum block is mined after 10-60 seconds which gives enough time to the player to manually check whether the new block hash mined immediately after the last player joined is used for calculating the dice value or not?

4. Do the positions of the players or bots change after the result is calculated?

Hi @webtricks, thanks for your concerns I hope this clears things up.
1. When every player in a duel has voted in favor of a bot, a bot will join the duel in the next available slot.
2. Every player's position -- human or bot -- is dictated by when they join the duel. If there's a bot in slot 1, it's likely that the creator of the duel left after human players joined. If the last human player in a duel leaves (i.e. only bots remain), the duel is cancelled.
3. Dice Duels is a very fast-paced game, and players won't want to wait 10-60s for the next Ethereum block to be mined. The fast EOS block times allow a more enjoyable experience for players.
4. No, the only times the position of a player changes is if a player above them leaves the Duel.

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I'm just making a few searches about "DuelBits" since everyone discus it over and over again also make some topic on "DuelBits". Here a few transaction withdrawal from "DuelBits", found this on Twitter.

I make some exception withdrawal from some "Streamer" since sometimes everyone does not believes the transaction from streamer could be a sponsored video, and here it is :

- User Twitter : Spazy Withdrawal 62.7 ETH (14.392$) Link : https://twitter.com/Spazycsgo/status/1279580287631077377
- User Twitter : Alex Withdrawal 42.4 ETH (9.532$) Link : https://twitter.com/h1haHAALUL/status/1278107336561876995
- User Twitter : Mista Withdrawal 800$ Link : https://twitter.com/MistaCrypto_/status/1276269148914569227
- User Twitter : Eva Withdrawal 1700$ Link : https://twitter.com/brilliant1337/status/1270390079882768384

I choose on the top user, because they are not stremer and tags "DuelBits" for their history transaction. Let's say the top user was right, if we see the transaction from Alex and following the transaction from where/which address they sent the money.

DuelBits Bankroll ETH right now 71K$ you can find it here that's just ETH, for BTC and Skin CSGO don't know their BankRoll but could be can more than 100K$

Let's take a good sign, with almost more than 8-month search some topic about "DuelBits Scam/Not Paid" on google not find anything about some case/problem like scam, withdrawal problem or other case which involving DuelBits.

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