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Quote from: AussieMat on September 07, 2023, 07:16:19 AM

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Everything is on here: https://duelbits.com/fairness

Do you have the ability to check? they share the source-code public to the people, feel free to check. The question did you can build a verify check based on the code they're provided or not ?

That's the question.

I'd love to have a simple explanation or breakdown on how to understand provably fair codes
it's something quite interesting and probably other noobs on coding have this same interest as I do.

have you ever seen something like that somewhere?

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 10, 2023, 07:26:33 AM

Now this is what every gambler should pay attention to, they need to read the Terms and Conditions of each casino, and of course each casino will have different Terms and Conditions for this. We cannot draw conclusions that all casinos have the same Terms and Conditions. Indeed, maybe in some ways there are similarities, but not all. Especially if we get into the discussion about KYC, I believe that some gamblers may not be ready for this policy, but if we want to continue playing in a situation that applies policies like this, we as users must also follow it. And if you are not willing then look for one that does not implement this policy.

We keep going back to having discussions about KYC and even if we don't like, we are trending more and more that casinos will ask for KYC even if the withdrawal amount is pretty low. It is too easy to say, you need to read the terms & conditions as nobody really reads that; you browse through but you don't go into all the details. I have no problem doing a KYC check if the casino has been around for a while and is legit.

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Quote from: Reatim on September 09, 2023, 07:59:58 PM

exactly , choose which casino site will suits you because there is nor forcing here for where you wanna play, but roobet will promise you safe playing for that case.

This is very true. There is no compulsion at all for players to play anywhere as long as they get what they want at the casino they are playing at.
Don't be mistaken, on average casinos promise the best to players such as bonus offers but often experience problems.

This is not intended to give advice, for beginners in gambling it is better to choose a casino that has been active for a long time. So by paying attention to how long a casino is active, players can get various reviews and events that have occurred.
Duelbits is an active casino that has been operating for a long time. I visited their site several times and had plans to register an account.

Apart from Duelbits, several others that I know, such as sportbets.io, have also been recommended to me by many.

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Quote from: wiss19 on September 06, 2023, 03:48:24 PM

Quote from: Reatim on September 04, 2023, 10:23:49 PM

We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.

On the other perspective, casinos are a business and they have owners and those owners have their own free will as well. So while we do have the right to play somewhere with KYC or not play there if we do not want to, it's all our own decision, these casinos also have an option to either follow the rules and have KYC if they want to or they may disagree and not have KYC if they do not want to.

We just have to accept their decision, it's their casino and they can do whatever they want with it and that should be the only important part of it. Without that, we are not going to end up with anything shocking like people pressuring a casino into removing KYC, that's not right and should not be happening at the moment.

Many gamblers simply do not take the time to read the TOS of the casino in which they play, they simply assume that whatever they think should be the right policies are what all casinos will follow, and obviously this is not true.

If gamblers did actually take the time to read the TOS, and they found out they will face KYC policies on specific circumstances then they can take an informed decision about whether to play or not at that casino, and if a casino claimed they will not ask for KYC on their TOS and then they did so anyway then you can have a legitimate claim against that casino as they are promoting their services in a deceiving manner.

Now this is what every gambler should pay attention to, they need to read the Terms and Conditions of each casino, and of course each casino will have different Terms and Conditions for this. We cannot draw conclusions that all casinos have the same Terms and Conditions. Indeed, maybe in some ways there are similarities, but not all. Especially if we get into the discussion about KYC, I believe that some gamblers may not be ready for this policy, but if we want to continue playing in a situation that applies policies like this, we as users must also follow it. And if you are not willing then look for one that does not implement this policy.

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Quote from: wiss19 on September 06, 2023, 03:48:24 PM

Quote from: Reatim on September 04, 2023, 10:23:49 PM

We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.

On the other perspective, casinos are a business and they have owners and those owners have their own free will as well. So while we do have the right to play somewhere with KYC or not play there if we do not want to, it's all our own decision, these casinos also have an option to either follow the rules and have KYC if they want to or they may disagree and not have KYC if they do not want to.

We just have to accept their decision, it's their casino and they can do whatever they want with it and that should be the only important part of it. Without that, we are not going to end up with anything shocking like people pressuring a casino into removing KYC, that's not right and should not be happening at the moment.

Many gamblers simply do not take the time to read the TOS of the casino in which they play, they simply assume that whatever they think should be the right policies are what all casinos will follow, and obviously this is not true.

If gamblers did actually take the time to read the TOS, and they found out they will face KYC policies on specific circumstances then they can take an informed decision about whether to play or not at that casino, and if a casino claimed they will not ask for KYC on their TOS and then they did so anyway then you can have a legitimate claim against that casino as they are promoting their services in a deceiving manner.

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Quote from: Wiwo on September 08, 2023, 03:18:32 AM

Quote from: Reatim on September 08, 2023, 02:58:19 AM

Quote from: wiss19 on September 06, 2023, 03:48:24 PM

Quote from: Reatim on September 04, 2023, 10:23:49 PM

We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.

On the other perspective, casinos are a business and they have owners and those owners have their own free will as well. So while we do have the right to play somewhere with KYC or not play there if we do not want to, it's all our own decision, these casinos also have an option to either follow the rules and have KYC if they want to or they may disagree and not have KYC if they do not want to.

wrong mate, they need to comply in laws depending in which country they are operating according to licensing .
so either the owner will comply to KYC or they will be sued in the future.

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We just have to accept their decision, it's their casino and they can do whatever they want with it and that should be the only important part of it. Without that, we are not going to end up with anything shocking like people pressuring a casino into removing KYC, that's not right and should not be happening at the moment.

don't compare the decisioning from casino owners to the players , because the players has their option to choose but the site needs to comply by the law and rules mate.

Very well right there, the casino must have to comply with regulatory requirements and if their mus have license it then means that the operates within the stipulated laws that establishes them and for the fact that many of the cex casino have stated fully in their terms and conditions of services that whenever their notice any wrong behaviour or the player passed his threshold their can demand for kyc and for that their stand the chances of implementing that law on the long run.

yeah, sometimes I am asking why they blame casino houses for having KYC when they are only complying to what the laws giving them?
it is not fair at all so hope they will understand sooner .

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So for the player, you still have options to choose from, because if you as a player don't want to play in a kyc casino, you can decide to stick to only decentralized casinos that do not require kyc to operate.

exactly , choose which casino site will suits you because there is nor forcing here for where you wanna play, but roobet will promise you safe playing for that case.

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Quote from: peter0425 on September 09, 2023, 12:11:03 AM

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Quote from: braila on September 06, 2023, 09:58:51 AM

Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.

Most of the people here know how Duelbits has run from the beginning until now without any fraud problems especially for only $ 100 and I think it's only about time that you have to wait until the Duelbits team gives you clarity regarding whether your KYC passes or not.

and why cannot wait for such? sometimes there are so much thinking from small roller or maybe they are badly needed that amount so they cant wait for at least a while.

Duelbits has been legit for many years, I wouldn't expect them to start losing customers based on just a hundred dollar deal, I think something must be off regarding this to make it work like this. I understand that people may not have what they want to have and that changes some things but I do believe that the best thing to do in this case would be making sure that it is going to end up with a change on the long run.

I hope that it gets to a point where we could see them do as well as hoped for, and because of that I believe that we need to have something that will change some things. Duelbits will always be a legit website in my opinion as long as someone comes with undisputable evidence that they are not, so far that hasn't happened.

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Quote from: klidex on September 06, 2023, 02:10:57 PM

Quote from: braila on September 06, 2023, 09:58:51 AM

Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.

Most of the people here know how Duelbits has run from the beginning until now without any fraud problems especially for only $ 100 and I think it's only about time that you have to wait until the Duelbits team gives you clarity regarding whether your KYC passes or not.

and why cannot wait for such? sometimes there are so much thinking from small roller or maybe they are badly needed that amount so they cant wait for at least a while.

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You can read the replies from several people here which are very clear and you can understand and for me if you don't make any mistakes or violations on this platform you don't need to worry because your funds will not be lost and it only takes time to verify your KYC data .
I hope you have to be patient until everything is clear from the review team and I think you don't need to say it's a scam.

maybe he had enough now , to not understand about how this site treat their legit players as it is proven my many for years now.

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Quote from: AussieMat on September 07, 2023, 07:16:19 AM

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Did you use verifier tool to check Provably Fair?

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Quote from: AussieMat on September 07, 2023, 07:16:19 AM

-snip-

Everything is on here: https://duelbits.com/fairness

Do you have the ability to check? they share the source-code public to the people, feel free to check. The question did you can build a verify check based on the code they're provided or not ?

That's the question.

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Quote from: Reatim on September 08, 2023, 02:58:19 AM

Quote from: wiss19 on September 06, 2023, 03:48:24 PM

Quote from: Reatim on September 04, 2023, 10:23:49 PM

We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.

On the other perspective, casinos are a business and they have owners and those owners have their own free will as well. So while we do have the right to play somewhere with KYC or not play there if we do not want to, it's all our own decision, these casinos also have an option to either follow the rules and have KYC if they want to or they may disagree and not have KYC if they do not want to.

wrong mate, they need to comply in laws depending in which country they are operating according to licensing .
so either the owner will comply to KYC or they will be sued in the future.

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We just have to accept their decision, it's their casino and they can do whatever they want with it and that should be the only important part of it. Without that, we are not going to end up with anything shocking like people pressuring a casino into removing KYC, that's not right and should not be happening at the moment.

don't compare the decisioning from casino owners to the players , because the players has their option to choose but the site needs to comply by the law and rules mate.

Very well right there, the casino must have to comply with regulatory requirements and if their mus have license it then means that the operates within the stipulated laws that establishes them and for the fact that many of the cex casino have stated fully in their terms and conditions of services that whenever their notice any wrong behaviour or the player passed his threshold their can demand for kyc and for that their stand the chances of implementing that law on the long run.

So for the player, you still have options to choose from, because if you as a player don't want to play in a kyc casino, you can decide to stick to only decentralized casinos that do not require kyc to operate.

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Quote from: wiss19 on September 06, 2023, 03:48:24 PM

Quote from: Reatim on September 04, 2023, 10:23:49 PM

We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.

On the other perspective, casinos are a business and they have owners and those owners have their own free will as well. So while we do have the right to play somewhere with KYC or not play there if we do not want to, it's all our own decision, these casinos also have an option to either follow the rules and have KYC if they want to or they may disagree and not have KYC if they do not want to.

wrong mate, they need to comply in laws depending in which country they are operating according to licensing .
so either the owner will comply to KYC or they will be sued in the future.

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We just have to accept their decision, it's their casino and they can do whatever they want with it and that should be the only important part of it. Without that, we are not going to end up with anything shocking like people pressuring a casino into removing KYC, that's not right and should not be happening at the moment.

don't compare the decisioning from casino owners to the players , because the players has their option to choose but the site needs to comply by the law and rules mate.

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Hello,
I’d actually like to attract the attention of @duelbits to the following post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-have-solved-the-problem-of-complexity-in-provably-fair-games-5464581

I’ve checked the provably fair section on duelbits and found it’s more or less the same as on Stake. In addition, you don’t have blackjack or baccarat which is going to be easily implemented with my provably fair system, that actually works for most provably fair games in existence at this time. Some games also, like Plinko on your website, don’t give the code on how to verify the results.

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Quote from: FanEagle on September 06, 2023, 11:45:31 AM

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 04, 2023, 01:01:53 AM

but I assume they did it to cut down on operational cost and expenses, in other to increase profit .

Cost cutting is usually the reason for these slashes of their commission percentages and that can't be foreseen. But with such experience from the others, you are having the idea that it can happen elsewhere when you're expecting it. Another reason might be that some plan offers they're about to open.

It's obvious that when you are trying to run a business you have two options for bigger profit. Either you have to cut down on the costs, or you have to end up making business and obviously affiliate is a way to make the income go higher, and cutting the costs is something that will take time but could make it work one way or another.

I think it is obvious that we are not going to end up with a great return one way or another but it is going to be possible in any case. I just hope that people could see the situation and think that it is going to be a fine thing eventually. Duelbits is a great website that has been around for a long time and I think it will stay being around for many more years as well with things like these.

I see 3 things
- spend less / cut costs
- sell to new costumers
- sell again to an existing costumer (raise LTV)

oh I agree with you that duelbits will probably stay around for a long long time

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Quote from: braila on September 06, 2023, 09:58:51 AM

Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.

It's not because my signature space is filled with duelbits signature code that I defend duelbits. The problem is don't accuse something too easily when the problem lies with the players.
Many big players who play on duelbits with an average large deposit amount but do not experience problems like the $100 you mentioned.

Yes, Duelbits won't scam you for $100 but they will trap you in their "reward system" if you raise your voice.

More details here..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duelbits-scam-alert-unveiling-the-illusion-of-the-most-rewarding-casino-5464671

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Quote from: klidex on September 06, 2023, 02:10:57 PM

Quote from: braila on September 06, 2023, 09:58:51 AM

Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.

Most of the people here know how Duelbits has run from the beginning until now without any fraud problems especially for only $ 100 and I think it's only about time that you have to wait until the Duelbits team gives you clarity regarding whether your KYC passes or not.
You can read the replies from several people here which are very clear and you can understand and for me if you don't make any mistakes or violations on this platform you don't need to worry because your funds will not be lost and it only takes time to verify your KYC data .
I hope you have to be patient until everything is clear from the review team and I think you don't need to say it's a scam.

Some of those gamblers that have this kind of issues have failed in their attempt to get the right answer to this kind of problem, because in this situation, it is obvious that only the support will help the player out since he already submitted the KYC demands and waiting for their response to and the response is taking longer than expected, if he contact support, their will be able to help him fix the issue if there is any or letting him know how long he is going to wait,
I encountered similar issues on an exchange recently and when i contact the supportIi was informed that I had to wait 2 extra days to get the issue fixed and by then I had nothing else to do but to keep waiting until the issue was resolved, so the mate can contact the support or send a reminder if he already created a ticket on this issue.

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Quote from: Reatim on September 04, 2023, 10:23:49 PM

We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.

On the other perspective, casinos are a business and they have owners and those owners have their own free will as well. So while we do have the right to play somewhere with KYC or not play there if we do not want to, it's all our own decision, these casinos also have an option to either follow the rules and have KYC if they want to or they may disagree and not have KYC if they do not want to.

We just have to accept their decision, it's their casino and they can do whatever they want with it and that should be the only important part of it. Without that, we are not going to end up with anything shocking like people pressuring a casino into removing KYC, that's not right and should not be happening at the moment.

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Quote from: braila on September 06, 2023, 09:58:51 AM

Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.

Most of the people here know how Duelbits has run from the beginning until now without any fraud problems especially for only $ 100 and I think it's only about time that you have to wait until the Duelbits team gives you clarity regarding whether your KYC passes or not.
You can read the replies from several people here which are very clear and you can understand and for me if you don't make any mistakes or violations on this platform you don't need to worry because your funds will not be lost and it only takes time to verify your KYC data .
I hope you have to be patient until everything is clear from the review team and I think you don't need to say it's a scam.

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Quote from: braila on September 06, 2023, 09:58:51 AM

Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.

You concluded that they are scam jsut because they tell you to wait for your KYC verification to process? This problem of waiting will not gonna happened if you verify your account after you register so the waiting time will be negligible since you are playing.

Typically, it took 7 days or more to verify someone casino account. This is not only for Duelbits but for most of the casino here in the forum. Just wait.

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