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Topic: DUELBITS.COM STOLE 545$ FROM ME PROOF (Read 629 times)

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March 30, 2022, 04:04:55 AM
#88
yeah but we knew that scam sites don't matter about scam accusation and they are just denying that fact .
And legit sites also not aware about the negative response/feedback/claim from all users. Because many users accuse something wrong for their wrong activity or misuse of the service. For example if you deposit in one method and then try to withdraw on another method then the site may ban the account or ask to verify the identity. Those who do this will say they have been scammed or something like that but they are not right and at a time the site will be stopped responding their question.
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March 25, 2022, 04:08:38 AM
#87
I don't think it's the first scam accusation that I've ever seen on them. There have been others too but they don't make sense as they're like repetitive accusations.

Well it is accusation when there are someone accusing the site but the thing is are those really matters? and really executory ? and you are correct those are just BS accusation and cannot be proven that's why i said that it is not considered as scam accusation for me because non of those had been proven.
but let it be there .
as long as i know that Duelbits is one of the most reputable and trust worthy gambling site that i played over the years.
That matters somehow if the casino is thinking of the feedback of everyone.

But when it becomes too much and hard to handle based on the attitude of these accusers then the casino will simply ignore them. There's no need for them to spend their precious time dealing with these people that can't accept defeat and normal process.

Everyone knows that they're a reputable casino and there will always be accusations that are pointless to discuss when it's already been answered by the casino.
yeah but we knew that scam sites don't matter about scam accusation and they are just denying that fact .

But knowing about DuelBits.com? this is one of the most and fastest growing gambling site , and with all the events and give away This site brings to the community ? i don't believe that Duelbits.com will scam a player with such cheap amount .
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March 22, 2022, 02:21:59 PM
#86
I doubt that anyone would make such a deposit by mistake, and even if they changed their mind after making the deposit and did not want to take the risk of gambling, they should understand that it is their mistake and in order to withdraw money without any problems, you must follow the TOS rules.
Mistake may happen for amount not for the deposit. For example any may want to deposit 100$ but by typo error it might be 1000$ or something like that. And if no wagger required then the scammer will take that chance and they will hack/steal fund from others and then deposit to a gambling site and then they will fly away by taking the white fund from a gambling site. And all the liability will be upon the gambling site.
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March 21, 2022, 03:55:57 AM
#85
Just close the thread. I think that even the OP understood that he made a mistake. The Duelbits support answered the OP question and will not do anything more. They answered fully and i think the OP knows that they are right and just trying to draw attention to him and in such a way force Duelbits to change their decision.
legendary
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March 20, 2022, 07:04:32 PM
#84
Duelbits has a good reputation and has had no problems with gamblers. This doesn't really seem like a problem to me. Duelbits drafted the terms and conditions (which are very realistic in my view) and the user agreed to them when he registered. Of course, the casino could have solved it in a different way, but that is irrelevant. A site may take the terms and conditions as an indicator on making decisions. And if you make a deposit on a site, and want to cash out without wagering or at odds of 1.01? That's pretty close to trying to launder money. In any case, that is not the behavior of a serious gambler.
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March 20, 2022, 06:52:29 PM
#83
I don't think it's the first scam accusation that I've ever seen on them. There have been others too but they don't make sense as they're like repetitive accusations.

Well it is accusation when there are someone accusing the site but the thing is are those really matters? and really executory ? and you are correct those are just BS accusation and cannot be proven that's why i said that it is not considered as scam accusation for me because non of those had been proven.
but let it be there .
as long as i know that Duelbits is one of the most reputable and trust worthy gambling site that i played over the years.
That matters somehow if the casino is thinking of the feedback of everyone.

But when it becomes too much and hard to handle based on the attitude of these accusers then the casino will simply ignore them. There's no need for them to spend their precious time dealing with these people that can't accept defeat and normal process.

Everyone knows that they're a reputable casino and there will always be accusations that are pointless to discuss when it's already been answered by the casino.
legendary
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March 20, 2022, 03:07:42 PM
#82
Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.
honest mistake of what? OP depositing on the casino without knowing that he needs to complete a wagering requirement in order to withdraw the money he deposited? judging from the OP's post history this is not the first time he has deposited and gambled on a gambling site. I am pretty sure that he knows that depositing on a gambling site would require him to complete a wagering requirement in order to withdraw his money.
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March 20, 2022, 02:42:31 PM
#81
I personally don't see how money laundering can occur here (or at least on a massive scale). If he wanted to mix his coins he is much better off going to a coin mixer as opposed to a centralised casino.
$545 is definitely not a small amount in my opinion. Op could technically keep depositing that amount and withdrawing it again and again which is basically money laundering on a massive scale.

Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.
This isn't Duelbit's mistake at all since they were following their TOS properly. Fault lies on op who either didn't read the TOS and wagering tricks or engaged in money laundering.
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March 20, 2022, 08:14:13 AM
#80
~snip~
Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.
^ Because OP did not read the TOS and that is the reason why the casino did not allow the withdrawal request because there are wager requirements and this was on the TOS that they should uphold. This is very common, people think that the casinos are can be used as a coin mixer as well and they will move out their coin to a clean wallet which is no one can trace on it, probably that was the purpose of OP and thinking that way. However, this honest mistake was nothing to do, Duelbits will still no need to blame.

I just cannot imagine that a trusted and well-reputable gambling website would go on to such extent as to steal $54 from a player.

Like what I mentioned before, it takes years of consistency and effort for a gambling website to earn its reputation. Another thing, it has to offer several promotions and services in order to at least attract more people into trying out their gambling website. I really doubt that duelbits would risk ruining their reputation for such a relatively small amount of money. Probably, it is OP who was not able to read the TOS of the website which thus experienced this unfortunate scenario.
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March 20, 2022, 05:14:35 AM
#79
With those things that you've mentioned, it only proves that they're a serious company and doing a serious business.
Duelbits.com is advertising here and forum and conducting multiple events and this is the first time we heard an scam accusation , and also with cheap claims , I'm not sure that this really have a good proof to provide.
I don't think it's the first scam accusation that I've ever seen on them. There have been others too but they don't make sense as they're like repetitive accusations.

Well it is accusation when there are someone accusing the site but the thing is are those really matters? and really executory ? and you are correct those are just BS accusation and cannot be proven that's why i said that it is not considered as scam accusation for me because non of those had been proven.
but let it be there .
as long as i know that Duelbits is one of the most reputable and trust worthy gambling site that i played over the years.
legendary
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March 19, 2022, 07:49:18 PM
#78

As far as understood the issue here, no money has been stolen, not even a cent. The OP has just wager limitation and he refused to have that. He wanted to bet more than his limit. We still do not know what was the reason of his account receiving a bet limit sanction, the OP didn't share the reason behind it. More than that, he just deposited his money, because he did not accept the limit, he wanted to withdraw the funds which he just deposited. That is prohibited since there is a possibility that the money is being laundered.

He did give the reason why the funds were blocked - and that is because he didn't hit a betting threshold.

I personally don't see how money laundering can occur here (or at least on a massive scale). If he wanted to mix his coins he is much better off going to a coin mixer as opposed to a centralised casino.

Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.

Bro, I respect your opinion he should have opted to go to coin mixer that is the right to do if he has the intention to use a gateway to transfer his funds, we have one here ignoring, or not aware of the rule and this is the repercussion of that action we all know that casinos and exchange have rules on our action and we are bounded by rules if we are planning to do something that is opposed to the rule there is a support that we can contact, we cannot bring a good casino down you have to prove that your intention isnot meant to break the rule.
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March 19, 2022, 04:49:11 PM
#77
~snip~
Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.
^ Because OP did not read the TOS and that is the reason why the casino did not allow the withdrawal request because there are wager requirements and this was on the TOS that they should uphold. This is very common, people think that the casinos are can be used as a coin mixer as well and they will move out their coin to a clean wallet which is no one can trace on it, probably that was the purpose of OP and thinking that way. However, this honest mistake was nothing to do, Duelbits will still no need to blame.
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March 19, 2022, 04:36:18 PM
#76

As far as understood the issue here, no money has been stolen, not even a cent. The OP has just wager limitation and he refused to have that. He wanted to bet more than his limit. We still do not know what was the reason of his account receiving a bet limit sanction, the OP didn't share the reason behind it. More than that, he just deposited his money, because he did not accept the limit, he wanted to withdraw the funds which he just deposited. That is prohibited since there is a possibility that the money is being laundered.

He did give the reason why the funds were blocked - and that is because he didn't hit a betting threshold.

I personally don't see how money laundering can occur here (or at least on a massive scale). If he wanted to mix his coins he is much better off going to a coin mixer as opposed to a centralised casino.

Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.
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March 19, 2022, 11:24:07 AM
#75

As far as understood the issue here, no money has been stolen, not even a cent. The OP has just wager limitation and he refused to have that. He wanted to bet more than his limit. We still do not know what was the reason of his account receiving a bet limit sanction, the OP didn't share the reason behind it. More than that, he just deposited his money, because he did not accept the limit, he wanted to withdraw the funds which he just deposited. That is prohibited since there is a possibility that the money is being laundered.
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Dimon69
March 19, 2022, 09:22:35 AM
#74
And I would like to know why someone make a deposit in casino if he don't want to play in it?

I doubt that anyone would make such a deposit by mistake, and even if they changed their mind after making the deposit and did not want to take the risk of gambling, they should understand that it is their mistake and in order to withdraw money without any problems, you must follow the TOS rules.

That’s the thing and reason Duelbit gave in the first place while rejecting his support ticket. He was in short doing the money laundering thing by using the casino cashier. It would be worth seeing how they will resolve the matter. Firstly, it was not a mistake at all. Secondly I have started to think why such big casino would ever steal 500 bucks from the random guy. They have proper TOS set out and they’re more than happy to return it if it’s not violated.

That’s what it is getting fired off from the discussion above.

If you will read the screenshot of the OP, He actually made a bet but duelbits refund his bet due to unknown reason which OP didn’t emphasize on his report. This is actually just a misunderstanding on OP side since he became worry by the time Duelbits didn’t allow his first bet to be placed or refunded before the match result shown, Either way the OP is not actually planning to money laundering since he really make a bet. He just don’t fully understand how the AML policy works on a casino. I believe this issue is already solved since Op is not updating anymore here.
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March 19, 2022, 08:30:34 AM
#73
And I would like to know why someone make a deposit in casino if he don't want to play in it?

I doubt that anyone would make such a deposit by mistake, and even if they changed their mind after making the deposit and did not want to take the risk of gambling, they should understand that it is their mistake and in order to withdraw money without any problems, you must follow the TOS rules.

That’s the thing and reason Duelbit gave in the first place while rejecting his support ticket. He was in short doing the money laundering thing by using the casino cashier. It would be worth seeing how they will resolve the matter. Firstly, it was not a mistake at all. Secondly I have started to think why such big casino would ever steal 500 bucks from the random guy. They have proper TOS set out and they’re more than happy to return it if it’s not violated.

That’s what it is getting fired off from the discussion above.
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March 19, 2022, 08:29:32 AM
#72
With those things that you've mentioned, it only proves that they're a serious company and doing a serious business.
Duelbits.com is advertising here and forum and conducting multiple events and this is the first time we heard an scam accusation , and also with cheap claims , I'm not sure that this really have a good proof to provide.
I don't think it's the first scam accusation that I've ever seen on them. There have been others too but they don't make sense as they're like repetitive accusations.

Well, some things like this are always existing when they don't end up with a good result as they gamble. There could be other the same stories that when someone can't just accept what has happened despite all legal processes has been made within the platform.
Good point , with a casino that as completely good reputation and this is the first stone that had been thrown to them? seemingly not constant.
What's constant is that these gamblers can't accept what has happened to them and just blame the casino where they've gambled because they've lost a lot.

And that's why they tend to make some excuses and blames the casino because it's hard to accept defeat and asks the sympathy of those people where they're telling their story that has been combined with twisted statement.
This is an normal attitude of cheaters and some those paid FUD to bring a good casino down.
You'll keep on seeing them when they're frustrated, paid or not.
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March 19, 2022, 07:38:52 AM
#71
This is an normal attitude of cheaters and some those paid FUD to bring a good casino down.

Also, I have the impression that it is not a coincidence that someone is spamming the forum with accusations in this way. After all, it is easy to understand that it is enough to do 1x wagering to safely withdraw money. If it's done smart, it can be done with really minimal risk. In this case, it seems the OP didn't even want to try. I would not like to accuse, because there is no evidence of it, but for me such behavior is very suspicious.

If the casino will try to scam, they will go for a bigger amount, not a 545 USD only. Anyway, I am a bit confuse why this thread has not move to the scam accusation board, probably because OP's evidence is not sufficient enough?

OP has already created a thread on the same topic in the accusation section: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duelbitscom-scammed-me-5386203
He created similar threads in a few other places. Therefore, I think that this is a strange behavior, because instead of trying to clarify this case and withdraw money, it all looks as if he cares most about slandering the name of DUELBITS.COM. It is possible that someone just wants to damage the image of Duelbits.

I see, thanks for giving me the complete information. Maybe he was frustrated that he is not getting the sympathy he wants. I should tell him that we have a fair community here, if his evidence are valid, then most likely DT would reg tagged DUELBITS.COM for doing that.
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March 19, 2022, 07:18:12 AM
#70
Hello

I have final proof this site is complete scam.

I made a deposit for 544 usd to bet to place a bet on a spefic sports game.

They blocked my bet so i tried to withdrawal and they blocked my withdrawal and said if I did not bet they would take my money because it was against they policy.

Then said I said if  they raise my limits i would love to bet and told them i wanted to bet  and then they said we lowed you limits on purpose and we wont raise it.

So they forced me to bet to or they would steal my money and not let me withdrawal.

Very simple they are a scam.

And they say its against there policy but its not in there TOS.

They just want to force me play till i loose. They never say how much i need to bet it just up to them.

I have placed plenty of bet on the site. Is not close to coin mixing . I had won some in past so they wanted to foce me to loose and steal my money.,

After being forced to bet i lost and now i am out 544 usd because they scammed me.



PROOF

CHAT LOGS AND ME TRYING TO WITHDRAWL AND THEM BLOCKING .


https://imgur.com/a/3bZPR9m

So after Duelbits  stole your 545 dollars as what you completely claimed in your 12 posts since your account creation

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/duelbitsisascam-3448104

why now that you are missing in action here in forum? after claiming those words that they have stolen your money now you just gave up like that?

or maybe there are some posts here that taken your main intention and brings here so you gave up?
sr. member
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March 19, 2022, 07:14:29 AM
#69
This is an normal attitude of cheaters and some those paid FUD to bring a good casino down.

Also, I have the impression that it is not a coincidence that someone is spamming the forum with accusations in this way. After all, it is easy to understand that it is enough to do 1x wagering to safely withdraw money. If it's done smart, it can be done with really minimal risk. In this case, it seems the OP didn't even want to try. I would not like to accuse, because there is no evidence of it, but for me such behavior is very suspicious.

If the casino will try to scam, they will go for a bigger amount, not a 545 USD only. Anyway, I am a bit confuse why this thread has not move to the scam accusation board, probably because OP's evidence is not sufficient enough?

OP has already created a thread on the same topic in the accusation section: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duelbitscom-scammed-me-5386203
He created similar threads in a few other places. Therefore, I think that this is a strange behavior, because instead of trying to clarify this case and withdraw money, it all looks as if he cares most about slandering the name of DUELBITS.COM. It is possible that someone just wants to damage the image of Duelbits.
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