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Topic: DUELBITS.COM STOLE 545$ FROM ME PROOF - page 3. (Read 629 times)

legendary
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March 17, 2022, 03:36:23 AM
#48
I have the impression that more and more casinos have their own trolls who, like maniacs, try to accuse of scam when they themselves do not comply with the terms of the rules.
Of course that in this case it would be enough to do 1x wagering and there would be no problem with withdrawal. As for limits, it is also stated in (probably) every ToS that the casino can set them individually.
We must read the rules carefully to avoid such misunderstandings. Unfortunately, when someone does not do it, and their complaint is considered negatively, then they unload their frustration by spamming the forum with this type of accusations.
hero member
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March 17, 2022, 01:29:09 AM
#47
Now, I am not saying OP is trying to launder the money that he deposited.. he might simply have done this... without any intention to launder any money... but the reaction to this kind of action is the same. (Most casinos will allow you to withdraw, once you wagered some of that money.... win or lose, they will give you your money) 
As far as I know, gambling sites are not like this before. They are not strict when it comes to withdrawals and deposits but now that cryptos are more into regulation (at least to the extend what I feel), they are now requiring documents and the reason why it's now being regulated is because cryptos are now popular therefore the scams and other criminal/illegal activities have also gone through the roof.

OP may not be a launderer, I guess, because he said he was playing already before on that casino. (For the people that doesn't want to risk anything, they shouldn't use a gambling site but they should have use a real coin mixing services).
hero member
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March 16, 2022, 08:18:45 AM
#46
I don`t see scam here. The support correctly tell what the OP has to do. The often problem is that the user doesn`t read ToS and starts arguing after the problem appears. If i understand correctly, in this situation looks like the OP deposited money and decided to withdraw it without betting. In cryptocurrencies it looks like using casino as mixer, and support answered the same. The best way was to make 1-2 bets and withdraw without any problems.
member
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March 14, 2022, 01:52:10 PM
#45
Most players who make such accusations fail to follow the term and conditions of the casino because looking closely and understanding the ops point it all ball down to the fact that the ops made a mistake and lose the money during the bet.
legendary
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March 14, 2022, 01:43:29 PM
#44
You followed what they've told you to bet and then you lose. They've given you instructions so that you won't be against their rules. There have been several accusations not just on them but with other legitimate and reputable casinos that had tried to twist the story. And upon betting, you lose your money.
You gambled and that's the other way around when you bet on it and you just can't say that they are scams because you lose. Next time before you gamble, make sure that you're willing to lose because that's what gambling life is.
At least to me it seems as if the one that started this thread did not really read the TOS of the casino in which they were playing, almost any casino these days has a wagering requirement in order to prevent hackers and scammers for laundering their money with them and using them as mixers by depositing suspicious coins and then withdrawing clean coins, so the support just pointed out this to him and then once he wagered his money he lost it, and now he is arguing this casino is a scam when this does not seems to be the case.
hero member
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March 14, 2022, 12:41:11 PM
#43
it's really sad to see posts created like this without a clear intention  , OP does not even provide complete details of the case and also proofs before posting similar like this considering that he is fighting against one of the most popular and fastest growing gambling site here in crypto community and the sad part is that the claims stands only for small amount of money considering that there are no case filed against Duelbits for years that has this kind of amount.
hoping that there will be clarification about this in the nearest time because this is not good in both party .
Because he/she has no strong proof against Duelbits, and even i heard first time a claim about this gambling site, because i'm was regular user in this platform, and i never faced any issue to deposit/withdrawals. Yeah, it's unbelievable that duelbits will do this scam for such small amount of money if considering the biggest gambling site.

Duelbits is a gambling website that has been slowly creating its reputation on the gambling sphere. Fortunately, it also has an active campaign signature (where I am currently participating with) in which they give consistent payments weekly.

In your issue OP, I highly doubt that the team of Duelbits would do something so trivial as to cause the years of their efforts attempting to establish themselves as one of the leading gambling websites, to be put to waste. If you have any questions or problems, I also suggest that you reach to their customer service and ask for an explanation.

You may also want to create a thread under the "scam accusation board" if you feel that you have substantial proof against Duelbits. Again, what you are experiencing is very unfortunate but I do hope that it gets fixed quickly.
sr. member
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SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
March 14, 2022, 10:44:44 AM
#42
it's really sad to see posts created like this without a clear intention  , OP does not even provide complete details of the case and also proofs before posting similar like this considering that he is fighting against one of the most popular and fastest growing gambling site here in crypto community and the sad part is that the claims stands only for small amount of money considering that there are no case filed against Duelbits for years that has this kind of amount.
hoping that there will be clarification about this in the nearest time because this is not good in both party .
Because he/she has no strong proof against Duelbits, and even i heard first time a claim about this gambling site, because i'm was regular user in this platform, and i never faced any issue to deposit/withdrawals. Yeah, it's unbelievable that duelbits will do this scam for such small amount of money if considering the biggest gambling site.
hero member
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March 14, 2022, 09:33:39 AM
#41
Agreed. This is a protocol that any gambling site would most likely do as well. We cannot really fight about this with the casinos because they have some grounds to do such because of some wavering signs of laundering act regarding this same situations. Maybe, OP wasn’t able to fully grasp why this has happened and it had to become this way for him when he deposited and wanted to withdraw after.
hero member
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March 14, 2022, 04:07:06 AM
#40
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Besides, if he didn't want to bet, why would he deposit his money into a gambling site? Or, for example, he wants to launder his money, he can use an existing mixer site and get his money back.

Maybe it wouldn't make sense if someone just wanted to deposit their money and keep it on a gambling site without wanting to play. After all, most of the mistakes people make are depositing large amounts, especially if they just created their account a few days ago or just created it yesterday.
legendary
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March 14, 2022, 02:34:42 AM
#39
Join any gambling site and deposit an amount of money...then do not wager and try to withdraw that money... and you might get the same response from that gambling site. This is a typical "money laundering" flag with most casinos... so it is standard operating procedures to encourage the person to gamble some of that money... to enable them to activate the withdrawal.

A money launderer does not want to lose any money on their deposits, because they simply want to try and "clean" the whole amount and then withdraw the money. (if they are asked.... they will say they won the money from a casino)  Roll Eyes

Now, I am not saying OP is trying to launder the money that he deposited.. he might simply have done this... without any intention to launder any money... but the reaction to this kind of action is the same. (Most casinos will allow you to withdraw, once you wagered some of that money.... win or lose, they will give you your money)  Wink
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March 14, 2022, 01:11:42 AM
#38
it's really sad to see posts created like this without a clear intention  , OP does not even provide complete details of the case and also proofs before posting similar like this considering that he is fighting against one of the most popular and fastest growing gambling site here in crypto community and the sad part is that the claims stands only for small amount of money considering that there are no case filed against Duelbits for years that has this kind of amount.
hoping that there will be clarification about this in the nearest time because this is not good in both party .
sr. member
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SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
March 14, 2022, 12:37:19 AM
#37
Duelbits is a renowned gambling site although this is founded in 2020 if i'm not mistake. But within very short time i think it’s pretty popular and also highly transparent, I have an account and i played a few games even i already successfully withdraw
over thousands of dollars, here i don’t believe they stolen only 545$, i see they clearly said that you violated their policies.
hero member
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March 14, 2022, 12:31:49 AM
#36
I see this complaints on Duelbits ANN thread and ignore him because the screenshot he is providing only shows how illogical he thinks when understanding duelbits support statement about coin mixing explanation.

I'm just wondering when @OP can come back here again and explain the update he's had since the last time he told his story. From the last conversation, it seems that the site has already refunded his money. Still, he can't withdraw the money if he doesn't place a certain amount of bet.

The guy probably lose his balance and try to blame duelbits for not allowing his balance to be withdrawn by the time he request it. He is using us here to sympathy for him and hope for the casino to fund his balance. I experience this kind of incident the first time I use duelbits. I deposit 100$ and lose interest in gambling while choosing the card game that I want to play. That support hold my withdrawal and send that exact message.

I just bet few buck on blackjack then they already allowed my withdrawal. The OP seems taking it personally and he might overlook the statement that he needs to bet same amount of his canceled  bet before he can withdraw.
hero member
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March 13, 2022, 11:40:01 PM
#35
I'm just wondering when @OP can come back here again and explain the update he's had since the last time he told his story. From the last conversation, it seems that the site has already refunded his money. Still, he can't withdraw the money if he doesn't place a certain amount of bet.

But maybe he can place a bet for a few games and play a few games. Hopefully, whatever the outcome, it will help him withdraw his money, even if he can't withdraw all the money. In this case, I would only suggest not depositing too much money. Otherwise, it will get you in trouble later.
sr. member
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March 13, 2022, 10:00:38 PM
#34
If your story is really true, I can imagine it's very unfortunate what happened. I don't think Duelbits are to blame. If the situation really were, then you should just stop placing bets and settle it right away with Dueblbits. No one is telling you that you have to place bets, you do that all by yourself. You chose to gamble yourself, you could also have chosen to post this story on the forum without continuing to gamble.


they said i had to bet or they would keep my money look at prrofs
Where is the  photo of this ? that the team says you need to bet or they would keep your money locked?  the Image you shared is just a part of
the conversation so best to put the complete conversation here so everyone will look deeper into your case and not just something that we can speculate.
I know that there is something happens aside from your shared image and that is what we need to see.
and also try answering this post above as it was really means a lot in this topic .

There is no scam here that I see based on the evidence provided in the screenshots.
OP deposited and withdrawn without placing a bet so it got blocked. The support allowed him to withdraw provided that he promises not to do it again, or bets the money. I guess he chose to bet the money and lost it, then he started this defamatory thread.

Next time make sure there's enough evidence to support your claim because posting a conversation where they tell you that they blocked the withdrawal but will allow it to go through but only this one time proves nothing. They played fair if you ask me, you did not.
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March 13, 2022, 08:33:57 PM
#33
There is no scam here that I see based on the evidence provided in the screenshots.
OP deposited and withdrawn without placing a bet so it got blocked. The support allowed him to withdraw provided that he promises not to do it again, or bets the money. I guess he chose to bet the money and lost it, then he started this defamatory thread.
I think your guess is close to reality because have been playing in Duelbits for years now and i even participated in their campaign as in my own experience the support is constantly answering problems and this is why i doubt what OP is claiming here, the support wont just block him with 544 dollars in claim .
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Next time make sure there's enough evidence to support your claim because posting a conversation where they tell you that they blocked the withdrawal but will allow it to go through but only this one time proves nothing. They played fair if you ask me, you did not.
and this also open some thinking about how and why he was blocked because it is clearly show that the team responding to his Issue from the beginning .
hero member
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March 13, 2022, 07:53:02 PM
#32
Hello

I have final proof this site is complete scam.

I made a deposit for 544 usd to bet to place a bet on a spefic sports game.

They blocked my bet so i tried to withdrawal and they blocked my withdrawal and said if I did not bet they would take my money because it was against they policy.

Then said I said if  they raise my limits i would love to bet and told them i wanted to bet  and then they said we lowed you limits on purpose and we wont raise it.

So they forced me to bet to or they would steal my money and not let me withdrawal.

Very simple they are a scam.

And they say its against there policy but its not in there TOS.

They just want to force me play till i loose. They never say how much i need to bet it just up to them.
Okay the only complaint here really is that they didn't let you incerase your limits, which lead to you trying to withdraw. But THAT action is against their TOS, which can clearly be read here:
https://duelbits.com/aml
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After a user deposits funds to Duelbits using any depositing option provided by the company, except CS:Go Skins, there is a minimum percentage of the amount that must be wagered until a withdrawal for the said funds is requested, otherwise the company reserves the right to ask for any additional KYC documentation and freeze the user’s funds until the KYC requirement is fulfilled.
Now I couldn't find the "percentage" needed from there, maybe people who've experienced or seen it could tell (I didn't see it or didn't really take notice of it). So really, it's just you OP that didn't properly look at their TOS. Maybe you could've tried to do the KYC requirements they need, if that was okay with you anyway. Though I guess the opportunity is gone now.
legendary
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March 13, 2022, 06:54:08 PM
#31
Hello

I have final proof this site is complete scam.

I made a deposit for 544 usd to bet to place a bet on a spefic sports game.
~snip~
^ At your title page, it says $545 but in the context of your thread it says $544, it seems you already lied this way.
Now in your case, why you deposit if you don't want to bet? Gambling casinos (mostly) will not allow users to withdraw their funds after depositing, it requires first a wager amount before they will do it, and at the second place what is the purpose of depositing your money there. Because this is a possible cause of money laundering when you deposit on gambling casino in withdrawal back.


are you stupid ?


lol i mistyped by 1$ also dif you read at all?

i did want to bet but they blocked my bets only allowing me to withdrawl if i placed bets they wanted

they limted my account on purpose, they even said it , did you looj at proofs ?

no because then you would no look like a troll

 But what did they said about the bet limits !
 
 Sometimes when trying placing a bet there is just some error that stucking it, and it pass after retry !
hero member
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March 13, 2022, 05:57:49 PM
#30
RELEVENT forums gambling and scam forums guess you dont speak English as your first language

OP you just have to lay your complaints in a professional way. They are sections for this type of dispute. You can as well drop a comment on their official thread. If you strongly believe that they are not trust worthy more people will learn about this on their thread. Most people who use Duelbits may not get to know about this as you claim if you spam especially in the wrong forum. It's important to hit the complaints in front of them and get a responsive reply that will satisfy you too.
hero member
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March 13, 2022, 10:11:43 AM
#29
You failed to read their terms and conditions before depositing on duelbit and also as others have pointed out you lose all the bets so ideally, you lost the money because your bets did not win, I will advise you always read the T$C of the casinos before creating an account on them.
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