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legendary
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October 24, 2023, 05:41:32 PM
#64
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Any sudden increase in price is always subject to correction, so I think sooner or later we can see a dump when people realized that they have been played by the market manipulation of some people and when investors take their profit after this surge.
Instead of thinking of big increases as part of manipulation - then you should think of something positive. The market doesn't always go up - it can find its support level again even if the price trend is good. Trends can change quickly - but something positive remains to be thought of. We all know market volatility will always be there and the potential risks and consequences cannot be avoided - so to me it's just an inseparable part of the market.

Manipulation can happen - but it can't happen easily without a lot of money involved. Moreover, you have to be careful in the market even if you believe the future is better - a crash or dump is possible due to bad news or something like that. So set your limits especially regarding risk tolerance and also only invest an amount you can afford to lose.
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October 24, 2023, 05:04:44 PM
#63
There are some confusion that might make me a little doubtful about the development of Bitcoin prices and adoption in 2024, which we all know that we will face Halving Bitcoin as well as the ETF agreement which is the most powerful indicator in encouraging Bitcoin prices, so that many people are speculating and accused The nominal is quite fantastic in Bitcoin in the last 2 years of the current cycle.


Then, never listen to them as it only fuses you but rather make your own speculation instead. Because if you are very certain about Bitcoin's potentiality, you don't have a reason to become doubtful about it. But what makes you confused is you listen/read negative and positive speculations which you know that none of them are right. Just remember the fact that nobody was able to tell the real scenario to happen in the market, those are just speculation and you can make it as well. What you need is to keep your faith strong and become certain with your plan.
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October 24, 2023, 04:52:03 PM
#62
Actually what's makes bitcoin to fall and rise is information and from my perspective a country war can not make a bullrun if its to occur in 2024 not to occur, the problem between Palestinian and Israel is not supposed to have any effect in cryptocurrency market what guarantees the increase in price of bitcoin is when a bitcoin have a good investors that come into the market.

Besides some countries ban bitcoin but bitcoin continues to exist, so that should be one of the major reasons and concerns we have in cryptocurrency, country conflict or challenge does not have any impacts in bitcoin increment and bitcoin decrement, let as assume as I portrayed before that what triggers the anger of bitcoin to come up in price is due to supply and demand, when the supply is higher than demands the price of bitcoin get increased.

Aside from this, there are also the so called influential group manipulation.  Just look how these group manipulates people sentiment.  First the release a fake news that create a sudden surge.  Then when it was found out that it was a fake news, they follow it with manipulative action of listing Blackrock ETF on the ticker index of DTCC site making people think that Blackrock ETF is possibly approved by SEC only later to be removed after stirring the market emotion to have an optimistic sentiment and possibly a FOMO which possibly create this Bitcoin market rally.  

Any sudden increase in price is always subject to correction, so I think sooner or later we can see a dump when people realized that they have been played by the market manipulation of some people and when investors take their profit after this surge.
legendary
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October 24, 2023, 04:25:20 PM
#61
Actually what's makes bitcoin to fall and rise is information and from my perspective a country war can not make a bullrun if its to occur in 2024 not to occur, the problem between Palestinian and Israel is not supposed to have any effect in cryptocurrency market what guarantees the increase in price of bitcoin is when a bitcoin have a good investors that come into the market.

War can have a negative impact on the market regardless of whether the impact is very large or only on a small scale. If this war continues then I can't ignore that investors' fears could increase because of it, but so far bitcoin ETF and halving could drive prices higher regardless of the state of the world economy and the war.

The market needs money coming in to move the price, but war is one factor that you need to be aware of before you invest. The impact of war is bad even though the bitcoin market is currently growing, so continue to be careful and don't push too hard to ignore the potential risks.
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October 24, 2023, 04:00:37 PM
#60
Actually what's makes bitcoin to fall and rise is information and from my perspective a country war can not make a bullrun if its to occur in 2024 not to occur, the problem between Palestinian and Israel is not supposed to have any effect in cryptocurrency market what guarantees the increase in price of bitcoin is when a bitcoin have a good investors that come into the market.

Besides some countries ban bitcoin but bitcoin continues to exist, so that should be one of the major reasons and concerns we have in cryptocurrency, country conflict or challenge does not have any impacts in bitcoin increment and bitcoin decrement, let as assume as I portrayed before that what triggers the anger of bitcoin to come up in price is due to supply and demand, when the supply is higher than demands the price of bitcoin get increased.
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October 24, 2023, 03:22:11 PM
#59
Bitcoin may have fallen a little in price, it is true, but I think the range will be $32-$35k, for me that is what can be done in this cycle before December, for December I think it will be easy to reach os $40k and if the positive results continue for the BTC ETG then it is much easier for it to jump to $40k, for me it is a fact that it can reach that price, what is stopping this trend are the wars that exist in January In the world, because if the world were without wars and everything was fine, the price of Bitcoin would be higher because investors are not going to invest with all that intrigue of wars.

It is difficult to quantify how much of an effect wars are having on the price of bitcoin and we have no way to know if they are really bringing the price of bitcoin down, as it was not long ago the market was still ranging, still the recent increase in the price proves the interest in bitcoin is still there and we are only waiting for some good news for the price to react immediately to it, and if the price has moved that much even now then I cannot even imagine how big the movement of the price could be if an ETF was finally approved.
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October 24, 2023, 02:40:02 PM
#58
The price of Bitcoin could rise well into 2024 when the ETF deal is completed and the Bitcoin halving occurs. When the halving started in the Bitcoin market, it encouraged the growth of the Bitcoin market and led to a strong bull run in the market. After the halving cycle there is no doubt that the Bitcoin market will go higher and people are waiting to see this wonderful market. When the Bitcoin market is in a cycle we can definitely understand that Bitcoin will be affected and the price of Bitcoin will increase significantly. Moreover, we have seen the bitcoin market have been in a very bad position in the past and we have overcome this volatility and bitcoin has not been in that position but has moved higher. Moreover, no matter how bad we are in the market, we can certainly expect that at some point the Bitcoin price will meet the bulls and the bad times will be over. So you don't feel volatility, rather hold on to your FUD and don't worry if it's bearish, bulls will come next.

Halving brings a positive outcome and ETF approval will really initiate a bull rally but I think we need something more to get the momentum to break the ATH. This time it won't be that easy but this will happen. We can see a new ATH at the end of 2024 or at the beginning of 2025 when the bitcoin market can be at its peak. Before halving we still have a few months left and we will get a last chance to take entry.
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October 24, 2023, 02:34:34 PM
#57
There are some confusion that might make me a little doubtful about the development of Bitcoin prices and adoption in 2024, which we all know that we will face Halving Bitcoin as well as the ETF agreement which is the most powerful indicator in encouraging Bitcoin prices, so that many people are speculating and accused The nominal is quite fantastic in Bitcoin in the last 2 years of the current cycle.

There is a dilemma that disturbs my mind, about the wider potential of war in the region of Palestine, we witness the reactions of various countries at the end of this week in the area, and show the great power of the eastern and western blocs, which we know that America and Friends said firmly that they became a strong supporter of Israel's annexation to the Palestinian region. Conversely Russia, North Korea and neighboring Palestinians, Turkey, Afghanistan, Iran and others support Palestinian independence and are ready to be behind Palestinian troops, which all makes conflict and political tension of the power of the world's major blocks that might trigger a big war to occur if did not find a meeting point in this conflict.

From various sequences of problems and many aspects that can be associated, I become doubtful with the price development of Bitcoin which in the event of this war is enlarged, so as usual Bitcoin will experience a price decline, even though we know it is not just bitcoin that will be a victim of this conflict happen.

I do not mean to frighten or make FUD, I just want to discuss to share thoughts, but for an bitcoin intelligent investor, how do you respond to conflicts that have probability to suppress Bitcoin prices?

Dude war has been used to make people wealthy for thousands of years.

I am watching the financial new as I type this and the weapons sector in the USA alone is backordered 750 billion dollars.

Multiply this by a factor of three or four and the rest of the worlds weapon makers are in the same boat. ie cash and money is flowing to them like mad.

This is the worldwide military industrial complex at its finest.

Do I like it ? no

Have I seen it time and time and time again.

Watch the Nick Cage movie the lords of war.

Trust me the death and destruction never ends so btc will do well in this climate.

It is sad that so many must be hurt maimed or killed for a few hundred people to get very wealthy.
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October 24, 2023, 01:58:19 PM
#56





I'm hold out for the "Buy the dip" moment!

Like yours mate , Am also buying the dip  but so far as the price growing since early this day,I think better for me to sell Half of my holdings while waiting for another dump , because it is obvious that before the halving comes we will see another Bear market.

Market performance today is impressive and I believe that this is only for temporary ,so i may consider selling later today and wait for buying again and I know it will surely happen.

Nice graph actually and I have a big belief that we are not yet finish in bearishness because that is the trend each time halving happened .
Bitcoin may have fallen a little in price, it is true, but I think the range will be $32-$35k, for me that is what can be done in this cycle before December, for December I think it will be easy to reach os $40k and if the positive results continue for the BTC ETG then it is much easier for it to jump to $40k, for me it is a fact that it can reach that price, what is stopping this trend are the wars that exist in January In the world, because if the world were without wars and everything was fine, the price of Bitcoin would be higher because investors are not going to invest with all that intrigue of wars.
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October 24, 2023, 06:33:45 AM
#55





I'm hold out for the "Buy the dip" moment!

Like yours mate , Am also buying the dip  but so far as the price growing since early this day,I think better for me to sell Half of my holdings while waiting for another dump , because it is obvious that before the halving comes we will see another Bear market.

Market performance today is impressive and I believe that this is only for temporary ,so i may consider selling later today and wait for buying again and I know it will surely happen.

Nice graph actually and I have a big belief that we are not yet finish in bearishness because that is the trend each time halving happened .
legendary
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October 24, 2023, 05:25:52 AM
#54
I also think there is always dump potential and not only because of wars around the world. World is literally heading towards unemployment and recession so I am very doubtful how much loans people can take and how much money people can save and invest in Bitcoin. In some countries people are literally buying food and toilet paper and other type of necessary goods with long shelf life to protect themselves from inflation. For Bitcoin to take off and fly, we need more people with savings that will buy.

In every uptrend there is correction that always follows, it is not news that in correction or dump follows when a market is done surging since those who buy at a lower price tend to exit to take profit.  A good example of this kind of scenario is when Bitcoin breaks its ATH, it is followed by a correction and bear market trend showing that a dump is inevitable after an uptrend.

The current scenario where Bitcoin rallies to $31k+ can also possibly suffer a dump due to people taking profit.

About the ongoing war between Israel and Palestine, I don't think that it will escalate to a global war because other countries will keep each other in check preventing them from directly participating and sending their troops in the ongoing war.

I agree, looking at the ongoing surge I also would expect a "correction" to happen,
Maybe soon or maybe in the short term but it does tend to happen.

Looking at the RSI currently it suggests the market is kind of over bought and generally
there follows a corresponding drop.

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I'm hold out for the "Buy the dip" moment!

Just simply look on TA or using up that MACD then it is really that overbought already which anytime soon which correction would really be that coming after which is really that obvious.The movement that we do have now on reaching out $35k is really something significant since we havent been able to see for a while and this is why its not really that shocking that majority of us would really be that having that impression that this might already be the start of bull run on which it isnt really that shocking that people would be having that impression but of course there would be those fellas who would really be thinking that this would really be some sort of bull trap on which tons of people would get caught if ever they would be buying at the current peak price. Dump market potential whether on this current situation or not, then it would be always that possible.

This market cant really be just having a single path or way to move and if there's pump then there's always an accompanied possibilities for some dump. Corrections could really happen
after a pump and this is where some people or traders are really that anticipating. Even myself cant really just that resist on expecting for those deep corrections
later on.
legendary
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October 24, 2023, 03:39:00 AM
#53
I also think there is always dump potential and not only because of wars around the world. World is literally heading towards unemployment and recession so I am very doubtful how much loans people can take and how much money people can save and invest in Bitcoin. In some countries people are literally buying food and toilet paper and other type of necessary goods with long shelf life to protect themselves from inflation. For Bitcoin to take off and fly, we need more people with savings that will buy.

In every uptrend there is correction that always follows, it is not news that in correction or dump follows when a market is done surging since those who buy at a lower price tend to exit to take profit.  A good example of this kind of scenario is when Bitcoin breaks its ATH, it is followed by a correction and bear market trend showing that a dump is inevitable after an uptrend.

The current scenario where Bitcoin rallies to $31k+ can also possibly suffer a dump due to people taking profit.

About the ongoing war between Israel and Palestine, I don't think that it will escalate to a global war because other countries will keep each other in check preventing them from directly participating and sending their troops in the ongoing war.

I agree, looking at the ongoing surge I also would expect a "correction" to happen,
Maybe soon or maybe in the short term but it does tend to happen.

Looking at the RSI currently it suggests the market is kind of over bought and generally
there follows a corresponding drop.




I'm hold out for the "Buy the dip" moment!
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October 24, 2023, 03:31:41 AM
#52
I also think there is always dump potential and not only because of wars around the world. World is literally heading towards unemployment and recession so I am very doubtful how much loans people can take and how much money people can save and invest in Bitcoin. In some countries people are literally buying food and toilet paper and other type of necessary goods with long shelf life to protect themselves from inflation. For Bitcoin to take off and fly, we need more people with savings that will buy.
well just today we have seen the Fly of  Bitcoin and grows more than 22% in the last 7 days and this is a good sign that bitcoin will have another growing before this year ends.
 
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets

Price performance
24h
Low
$30,379.21
High
$34,557.90

almost 35k in the last 24 hours , I do believe that this will not stop here and maybe resting to break 35-40k and yes I wanted this to happen.
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October 23, 2023, 05:46:09 PM
#51
I also think there is always dump potential and not only because of wars around the world. World is literally heading towards unemployment and recession so I am very doubtful how much loans people can take and how much money people can save and invest in Bitcoin. In some countries people are literally buying food and toilet paper and other type of necessary goods with long shelf life to protect themselves from inflation. For Bitcoin to take off and fly, we need more people with savings that will buy.

In every uptrend there is correction that always follows, it is not news that in correction or dump follows when a market is done surging since those who buy at a lower price tend to exit to take profit.  A good example of this kind of scenario is when Bitcoin breaks its ATH, it is followed by a correction and bear market trend showing that a dump is inevitable after an uptrend.

The current scenario where Bitcoin rallies to $31k+ can also possibly suffer a dump due to people taking profit.

About the ongoing war between Israel and Palestine, I don't think that it will escalate to a global war because other countries will keep each other in check preventing them from directly participating and sending their troops in the ongoing war.
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October 23, 2023, 03:52:11 PM
#50
From various sequences of problems and many aspects that can be associated, I become doubtful with the price development of Bitcoin which in the event of this war is enlarged, so as usual Bitcoin will experience a price decline, even though we know it is not just bitcoin that will be a victim of this conflict happen.

I do not mean to frighten or make FUD, I just want to discuss to share thoughts, but for an bitcoin intelligent investor, how do you respond to conflicts that have probability to suppress Bitcoin prices?
I wish for no war but what if there is war, what makes you think that the price of bitcoin will fall?

Some people will always see something to say about the price of bitcoin not to rise. It is good for you not to think like that because the bull run period is very near. Buy and hold bitcoin is my advise. People should not think about any war but think that the price of bitcoin will increase. I have started to DCA and if the price of bitcoin does not fall below $20000 again, I will buy more bitcoin some weeks to halving.

Some people are saying there is possibility that third world war has begun, but which I will not believe for it not to affect my bitcoin investment.


Bitcoin’s long-term investors own over 76% of all BTC for the first time

Not only this, but I believe that during times of war, Bitcoin becomes more valuable and more attractive to hold.

Would you rather hold government bonds for the country that is participating in war?
Hold contracts with a corporation that resides in a state of war?
Hold money in the bank, subject to bank default policy?
Hold physical cash, gold or silver if your country is under threat?
....
....
Or, encrypt bitcoin storage and store it in ways that can't be effected by war, physical harm, etc.

The argument that "what if the internet goes out" is the only one against Bitcoin, but it is a lame one. The Internet being wiped out globally would end a large portion of humanity. I think it's too unlikely to choose anything else over Bitcoin.
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October 23, 2023, 03:36:49 PM
#49
There are some confusion that might make me a little doubtful about the development of Bitcoin prices and adoption in 2024, which we all know that we will face Halving Bitcoin as well as the ETF agreement which is the most powerful indicator in encouraging Bitcoin prices, so that many people are speculating and accused The nominal is quite fantastic in Bitcoin in the last 2 years of the current cycle.

There is a dilemma that disturbs my mind, about the wider potential of war in the region of Palestine, we witness the reactions of various countries at the end of this week in the area, and show the great power of the eastern and western blocs, which we know that America and Friends said firmly that they became a strong supporter of Israel's annexation to the Palestinian region. Conversely Russia, North Korea and neighboring Palestinians, Turkey, Afghanistan, Iran and others support Palestinian independence and are ready to be behind Palestinian troops, which all makes conflict and political tension of the power of the world's major blocks that might trigger a big war to occur if did not find a meeting point in this conflict.

From various sequences of problems and many aspects that can be associated, I become doubtful with the price development of Bitcoin which in the event of this war is enlarged, so as usual Bitcoin will experience a price decline, even though we know it is not just bitcoin that will be a victim of this conflict happen.

I do not mean to frighten or make FUD, I just want to discuss to share thoughts, but for an bitcoin intelligent investor, how do you respond to conflicts that have probability to suppress Bitcoin prices?
Whether it would happen or not, then there's no way on knowing it out and this is something that you should really be making yourself realize that this market is always been that unpredictable. Put up into your mind that sentiments and news could neither be giving out or not some effects in overall price market movements even if we do say that it is really the main talks or issues that we are facing now.
We've seen some significant effects on some markets but crypto market is always been that different. There might be times that it might really be affected but doesnt mean that it would really be affected on every
news and sentiments that comes around.

As a Bitcoin cryptoenthusiast or support or simply being that crypto guy, then it would be always the best that you should really be making yourself that wary neither those things could neither affect or not
when it comes to prices. Dumps and pumps could happen on which it does mean that you would really be needing to make that decision whether you should be holding your position or would really be
securing profits on the time that you are seeing greens. We do know that it would really be that so hard on making decisions with this volatile market but we dont really have
no choice but to go forward.
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October 23, 2023, 02:17:29 PM
#48
there is no need to worry too much that geo-political and global economic issues will affect the price of bitcoin significantly, it does affect it, but not to the point where the price of bitcoin plummets. bitcoin has gone through the worst phase faced by humanity, namely covid-19, the russian and ukrainian wars, and several other major events, and until now it still stands tall and is still the best digital asset that people choose.

i remain optimistic about the future of bitcoin because history has spoken about how bitcoin has survived until now. maybe in the future the bitcoin market will experience ups and downs and that is normal when a market experiences something like that, but i remain confident that bitcoin will be able to get through that.
I think they can actually, since they are mostly global but we shouldn't worry too much as you said since the effect wasn't permanent and it was a good thing in fact because helps us to buy at a very good rate. Those events you mentioned are indeed worse but the negative effect are mostly felt outside by the humans and not really for Bitcoin because BTC surprisingly show a good increase during it.

I think that is because people that are affected, mainly use it more than the fiats. Ups and downs are more normal than what we are witnessing now which was stability but maybe some people like it especially if they use their BTC more as a currency.
Actually there’s an indirect effect to the market price of Bitcoin. If we would go back last year wherein war rumors started to create a noise, many people panicked and that includes investors of this industry. They probably sold their holdings that tine to make use of the money for daily necessities and same thing with other geo-political and economic issues which could directly affect the investors then followed by an effect to the investment and perhaps crypto holdings. Another is largescale restriction to some countries for this industry which also made an impact to majority of tokens’ value. But right now, the market price seem to be on upward after the dump but if we would base on current situation, it is still not guatanteed that the price movement will be consistent and continuous. News, events and the likes will always have a direct (if not indirect) in every assets and properties.
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October 23, 2023, 01:23:30 PM
#47
there is no need to worry too much that geo-political and global economic issues will affect the price of bitcoin significantly, it does affect it, but not to the point where the price of bitcoin plummets. bitcoin has gone through the worst phase faced by humanity, namely covid-19, the russian and ukrainian wars, and several other major events, and until now it still stands tall and is still the best digital asset that people choose.

i remain optimistic about the future of bitcoin because history has spoken about how bitcoin has survived until now. maybe in the future the bitcoin market will experience ups and downs and that is normal when a market experiences something like that, but i remain confident that bitcoin will be able to get through that.
I think they can actually, since they are mostly global but we shouldn't worry too much as you said since the effect wasn't permanent and it was a good thing in fact because helps us to buy at a very good rate. Those events you mentioned are indeed worse but the negative effect are mostly felt outside by the humans and not really for Bitcoin because BTC surprisingly show a good increase during it.

I think that is because people that are affected, mainly use it more than the fiats. Ups and downs are more normal than what we are witnessing now which was stability but maybe some people like it especially if they use their BTC more as a currency.
STT
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October 23, 2023, 12:59:42 PM
#46
At this point and with Lebanon having no proper reliable money system for the people, it seems the war story might better favor BTC then oppose it with hard money scenario etc.   Sadly these war stories arent new, I've been watching the wretched civil war in the middle east and locked down Palestine especially for multiple decades now its a broken record repeating and its sad to say that as people die.    Also dollar has its own problems, the deficit the debt ceiling and so on.  BTC rising right now might be quite fair, I dont sense its due a sell because I dont see it has excessive speculative hype and hopes to it especially.
   My worry is that we'd have to look at monthly bars and the volume but this is a trading set back really, it'll rise and pullback.  We can debate how much but a normal sell off and reset just leads to the next question how large is the rise after that, so not really negative.


https://www.reuters.com/markets/rates-bonds/lebanons-financial-crisis-how-it-happened-2022-01-23/
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October 23, 2023, 12:45:55 PM
#45
I agree when the world economy turns bad people will think about their future and want to invest. Because the global economy will not have any effect on bitcoin if the demand increases its value will increase a lot no one can guarantee the exact market price can reach sudden highs. Businesses have invested in bitcoin to protect themselves from crises and more recently to gain financial leverage. It is also planning to accept cryptocurrency as a means of payment blackrock the world's largest asset manager is also exploring ways to use digital currencies.
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