[DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 198.

smeagol

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Quote from: ranlo on February 05, 2014, 05:56:50 PM

Okay, let me try to answer all of this real quick.

1) If you're not on the payment list, wait a bit. We review writers for each round prior to finalizing earnings (so if you aren't on it yet, you may still get on it before the round is finalized -- we do all these checks at once)

2) Technically, the round "ends" in a few days. Due to tying up loose ends and ensuring everything is right, though, it drags on past that. Usually up to a week.

Basically, until the actual payment files ("receiver files") are uploaded, things are not finalized.

Yep, there is a period after the round to correct errors, et cetera.

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Quote from: bit-fxtrader on February 05, 2014, 07:18:34 PM

Quote from: ranlo on February 05, 2014, 05:56:50 PM

Okay, let me try to answer all of this real quick.

1) If you're not on the payment list, wait a bit. We review writers for each round prior to finalizing earnings (so if you aren't on it yet, you may still get on it before the round is finalized -- we do all these checks at once)

2) Technically, the round "ends" in a few days. Due to tying up loose ends and ensuring everything is right, though, it drags on past that. Usually up to a week.

Basically, until the actual payment files ("receiver files") are uploaded, things are not finalized.

Thanks so basically I should be fine if I post my articles before the 9th.

Should be. Even if you aren't, anything else will pass through to the next round regardless.

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Quote from: ranlo on February 05, 2014, 05:56:50 PM

Okay, let me try to answer all of this real quick.

1) If you're not on the payment list, wait a bit. We review writers for each round prior to finalizing earnings (so if you aren't on it yet, you may still get on it before the round is finalized -- we do all these checks at once)

2) Technically, the round "ends" in a few days. Due to tying up loose ends and ensuring everything is right, though, it drags on past that. Usually up to a week.

Basically, until the actual payment files ("receiver files") are uploaded, things are not finalized.

Thanks so basically I should be fine if I post my articles before the 9th.

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Quote from: bit-fxtrader on February 05, 2014, 10:29:06 AM

Quote from: Flam on February 05, 2014, 09:51:48 AM

Once you are on the earning list your word count is updated day by day. Check here http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/
If you are not on the earning list an admin will come to you asking a confirmation on your address.
The payment round starts 20 days after the deadline. I guess it allows admins to check everything and counter cheating.
Everyone on the list will be paid his first share first then his second and so on up to his total shares. The payment is generated as mined blocks of 45k devcoins into your wallet. That's why it takes time even for the payment. And that's why the address have to be on your computer's wallet, not from an exchange.
So on your first round as a writer there is a great inertia between your work and the moment you get paid. But then you will earn DVC every days.
Once you have an article that meets the Devtome requirements post it or your payment can be delayed up to 50 days.

Yes I understand that there is payment lag. I just wanted to know if I post my articles by the deadline will they get in this payment round or do they need to be manually reviewed by fev 9th.

Okay, let me try to answer all of this real quick.

1) If you're not on the payment list, wait a bit. We review writers for each round prior to finalizing earnings (so if you aren't on it yet, you may still get on it before the round is finalized -- we do all these checks at once)

2) Technically, the round "ends" in a few days. Due to tying up loose ends and ensuring everything is right, though, it drags on past that. Usually up to a week.

Basically, until the actual payment files ("receiver files") are uploaded, things are not finalized.

smeagol

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This week's humble bundle is a really good deal! (Too bad I already have all of the games

) What if Humble Bundle starting accepting devcoin? We would need a more professional payment processor than coinpayments, though. (i.e. bitpay or coinbase for devcoin)

Therefore, I suggest a bounty of 40 shares for a professional-looking devcoin payment processor (admins can vote on this), and an additional 15 12 shares for each store or business that starts using the the processor, with a 2/5 share bonus for the person who coded the processor for each store and a 5 2 share bonus for the person who persuaded the business to start using the devcoin payment processor.

Any changes, or objections?
(The share rewards may be a bit high)

Edited based on weisoq's suggestions!

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Quote from: Flam on February 05, 2014, 10:51:03 AM

Of course weisoq. I didn't found it back on Devtome but as it was described I thought I had no right to categorize my articles (putting them in the right category on devtome) myself. Until your message here I was waiting for an admin to do so. So maybe it was(is) the same for some other writers.
Once you said that we can, I categorized them myself.

Not really, because you talked about creating specific sub categories, and linking them yourself, from the start. Misunderstandings perhaps.

Anyway, I'm referring here mostly to 1) Categorising and 2) adding articles to 'Most Recent'. Anything further is in addition.
It's just a real help with greater volume and trying to keep up which takes a lot of time, but not required.

smeagol: ok thought it was just email, although I think the store and persuader bonuses are way too high. The store should make a return if it has a viable business, otherwise they'll just set it up, take the shares then close it. Likewise the individuals, who if legit get to shop at a store they value anyway, so that probably wants thinking through.

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Quote from: weisoq on February 05, 2014, 10:40:13 AM

smeagol: Isn't coinpayments ok?

Coinpayments isn't as streamlined as coinbase or bitpay. With bitpay, it's just "send coin here" and then you're good to go. For coinpayments you have to enter a lot of information, even if you are buying a digital good.

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Of course weisoq. I didn't found it back on Devtome but as it was described I thought I had no right to categorize my articles (putting them in the right category on devtome) myself. Until your message here I was waiting for an admin to do so. So maybe it was(is) the same for some other writers.
Once you said that we can, I categorized them myself.

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Quote from: Flam on February 05, 2014, 09:32:07 AM

Last time I checked filling the category was described as an admin task. I can guess it's not bad will on writers part because if I extend my comprehension of it to the other writers, they may thought that you had to put your article into "most recent" section first only to be reviewed and categorized by an admin later on.

PS: Of course if an important portion of writers doesn't even bother to update the most recent page it's annoying.

I didn’t say anything about bad will on filing Flam, only that it helps. Helps everyone. In your case you said you were going to organise and link articles yourself which is why they’ve been left as categorised only.

It is an admin task. Submissions and work have increased a lot and some of us spend multiple more time than required. There are a number of people involved in admin but in my case - How long would you think it takes to check an article for categorisation, skim read it to confirm, check if it's been filed and then do so if not? And if there are 25+ submissions per day? Then go through 'recent changes' to see what's slipping through the net. That's to keep it all rolling so there is a functional repository for writers to contribute to, in addition to other queries/help. All I'm saying is there’s a not a magic fairy and a commensurate attitude by writers is appreciated in a mutual endeavour.

smeagol: Isn't coinpayments ok?

bitfxtrader: I don't know timescales as pragmatically will depend on volumes. Hopefully someone will be along to let you know.

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They have to be reviewed before the payment round starts. Otherwise there is a default earning multiplier applied to your work. Someone else will give you a more detailed/accurate answer than me on this part I guess :p. If I remember well my earning multiplier was affected after the deadline on round 31.
If you post your articles before the deadline and if an admin asked a confirmation on your tip address you should be on the payment round for this round.

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Quote from: Flam on February 05, 2014, 09:51:48 AM

Once you are on the earning list your word count is updated day by day. Check here http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/
If you are not on the earning list an admin will come to you asking a confirmation on your address.
The payment round starts 20 days after the deadline. I guess it allows admins to check everything and counter cheating.
Everyone on the list will be paid his first share first then his second and so on up to his total shares. The payment is generated as mined blocks of 45k devcoins into your wallet. That's why it takes time even for the payment. And that's why the address have to be on your computer's wallet, not from an exchange.
So on your first round as a writer there is a great inertia between your work and the moment you get paid. But then you will earn DVC every days.
Once you have an article that meets the Devtome requirements post it or your payment can be delayed up to 50 days.

Yes I understand that there is payment lag. I just wanted to know if I post my articles by the deadline will they get in this payment round or do they need to be manually reviewed by fev 9th.

bit-fxtrader

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Ok guys here's my first article. Let me know if I'm doing this right. I added 3 categories on the bottom plus added it to the most recent section. http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=forex_news_trading

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Quote from: bit-fxtrader on February 05, 2014, 09:42:45 AM

Quote from: bit-fxtrader on February 04, 2014, 04:03:22 PM

Quote from: sidhujag on February 04, 2014, 03:57:00 PM

Quote from: bit-fxtrader on February 04, 2014, 03:49:30 PM

I see the round deadline is 4 days away. I wrote some articles in word, about to post them. If I post them on devtome before the 9th will they get counted in this round or do I need someone to check them first? Not sure how the system works, it's my first month writing for devtome.

I believe if you don't check them (proof-read?) then they may be rated lower so its better to make sure its a final copy before writing.

Hey, sidhujag. That's not what I meant.Someone earlier commented how noone checked his work yet and he thought he might not be included in this payment round because of this. So just curious if the deadline is ''you should post by this date'' and articles can get checked later or if it's ''if article doesn't get checked by mods by deadline then it doesn't count''. Hope I explained it better this time.

Can anyone answer how the system works? First month writing for devtome.

Once you are on the earning list your word count is updated day by day. Check here http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/
If you are not on the earning list an admin will come to you asking a confirmation on your address.
The payment round starts 20 days after the deadline. I guess it allows admins to check everything and counter cheating.
Everyone on the list will be paid his first share first then his second and so on up to his total shares. The payment is generated as mined blocks of 45k devcoins into your wallet. That's why it takes time even for the payment. And that's why the address have to be on your computer's wallet, not from an exchange.
So on your first round as a writer there is a great inertia between your work and the moment you get paid. But then you will earn DVC every days.
Once you have an article that meets the Devtome requirements post it or your payment can be delayed up to 50 days.

smeagol

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This week's humble bundle is a really good deal! (Too bad I already have all of the games

) What if Humble Bundle starting accepting devcoin? We would need a more professional payment processor than coinpayments, though. (i.e. bitpay or coinbase for devcoin)

Therefore, I suggest a bounty of 40 shares for a professional-looking devcoin payment processor (admins can vote on this), and an additional 15 shares for each store or business that starts using the the processor, with a 2/5 share bonus for the person who coded the processor for each store and a 5 share bonus for the person who persuaded the business to start using the devcoin payment processor.

Any changes, or objections?
(The share rewards may be a bit high)

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Quote from: bit-fxtrader on February 04, 2014, 04:03:22 PM

Quote from: sidhujag on February 04, 2014, 03:57:00 PM

Quote from: bit-fxtrader on February 04, 2014, 03:49:30 PM

I see the round deadline is 4 days away. I wrote some articles in word, about to post them. If I post them on devtome before the 9th will they get counted in this round or do I need someone to check them first? Not sure how the system works, it's my first month writing for devtome.

I believe if you don't check them (proof-read?) then they may be rated lower so its better to make sure its a final copy before writing.

Hey, sidhujag. That's not what I meant.Someone earlier commented how noone checked his work yet and he thought he might not be included in this payment round because of this. So just curious if the deadline is ''you should post by this date'' and articles can get checked later or if it's ''if article doesn't get checked by mods by deadline then it doesn't count''. Hope I explained it better this time.

Can anyone answer how the system works? First month writing for devtome.

Flam

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Last time I checked filling the category was described as an admin task. I can guess it's not bad will on writers part because if I extend my comprehension of it to the other writers, they may thought that you had to put your article into "most recent" section first only to be reviewed and categorized by an admin later on.

PS: Of course if an important portion of writers doesn't even bother to update the most recent page it's annoying.

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Quote from: melodiem on February 04, 2014, 09:26:07 PM

I am sorry I have been doing the category at the bottom of the page, but not filing them. Will fix now.

Also, is it ok to add a category to someone else's article if it doesn't have one? I actually did this one day before I realised it might not be cool...(I forgave myself by noting the writer gets better share results if their articles are categorised but still, not sure if I should have and have not since..) are their rules around this?

So long as they're at least under Most Recent then we know they exist and can file them. It just takes longer. Pretty sure you've been doing this so no worries.

You can edit others' articles but unless you're on a list of ok'd writers it brings up warnings in output scripts. Best thing is to msg UTB and ask to be added to that list if your intentions are good, which they are.

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Quote from: weisoq on February 03, 2014, 06:25:26 PM

Your view is similar to that of most others, objectively or not. I just don't share it and so my approach may change accordingly, because I'm tired of reiterating aspects I think are fundamental but not shared.

Dont underestimate the power of a word Weisoq, I've had to completely re-evaluate my position/opinion and ask whole new questions of myself and others because your view makes a lot of sense.

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Quote from: Unthinkingbit on February 04, 2014, 02:15:54 AM

Quote from: nahtnam on February 04, 2014, 01:07:06 AM

Hey! Is there a devcoin paper wallet generator? If im not wrong, its the same as bitcoin? In that case would I be able to use something like http://bitaddress.org? Would it be the bitcoin address be the correct address or would I have to run it through some different site to different address that starts with "D". Peercoin and namecoin are based off of bitcoin and use the same generation as bitcoin but they start with "P" or "N". Thanks.

Devcoin addresses are the same as bitcoin addresses. A devcoin address starts with the same character as a bitcoin address, there is no change at all. You can import a bitcoin address into devcoin and vice versa.

Thanks for the clarification. If I use bitaddress to generate an address, I cand import, send, and receive dev coins safely?

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Quote from: melodiem on February 04, 2014, 09:26:07 PM

Also, is it ok to add a category to someone else's article if it doesn't have one? I actually did this one day before I realised it might not be cool...(I forgave myself by noting the writer gets better share results if their articles are categorised but still, not sure if I should have and have not since..) are their rules around this?

Fine with my stuff if you PM me first.

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