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Quote from: emfox on February 07, 2014, 09:49:38 PM

I think I'd like to propose bounty of 12 shares every round for sidhujag, after his wallet made official and as long as he continuously maintain it.

Would that not fall under the share for being a full time Open Source developer? Assuming there were shares given out for the original development? Please don't consider this a vote pro or con... just a question.

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Do the references / links have to be to outside sources or can it be my previous articles on devtome?

Lot of my articles posted recently are for trading systems which are either created by me or my modifications of trading systems I've found from publicly accessible threads on trading forums. Referencing this would be an issue as the source is basically my mind? An added problem is that even for the strategies I've modified, for a lot I can't even remember where I got the original idea from. As there is no copyright on trading systems I never really bothered to keep track of where I borrowed ideas from.

I plan to change up the type of content I post starting from the next round so I don't expect this to be an issue going forward but obviously I wouldn't want to get stuck with a bad rating in the meantime.

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Quote from: sidhujag on February 07, 2014, 09:37:53 PM

Quote from: Unthinkingbit on February 07, 2014, 09:15:29 PM

Quote from: emfox on February 07, 2014, 08:13:13 PM

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I'm not objecting but is it better if we have an hashpower criteria, e.g. if the pool hash reach 20g, then it's ok for the 24 shares bounty. So not every pool who has deploy the same code can apply this bounty.

The reason for the bounty is to see if Sidhujag's Daemon makes devcoin blocks that the old clients accept. We just need a single block for that. If it does, then we can make Sidhujag's the official client and archive the old one.

You really think its half the amount of work to test a pool than it is to develop the source? So does this mean he would have to dive into the source to figure out whats wrong if that os the case? Seems most of the hard work is in the code since that would be the problem and not the setup of a generic p2pool.

Calm down man, I think it's more hard work developing wallet than testing it, but having mining pool is also important.

I think I'd like to propose bounty of 12 shares every round for sidhujag, after his wallet made official and as long as he continuously maintain it.

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Seems it throws a fit when creating a block? Doesntthis get called when doenloading blocks from the chain? whats the difference. Is it the transaction stuff tht happens after checkblock is called?

Seems there is an issue in the creation of a new block... Hmm how would i debug this one?

Good thing is it is consistent.. so the p2ppool is sending the command right away amd I can put a bunch of console output statements to see what is going on.. I can add these to github ill tell you when to rebuild.

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Quote from: Unthinkingbit on February 07, 2014, 09:15:29 PM

Quote from: emfox on February 07, 2014, 08:13:13 PM

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I'm not objecting but is it better if we have an hashpower criteria, e.g. if the pool hash reach 20g, then it's ok for the 24 shares bounty. So not every pool who has deploy the same code can apply this bounty.

The reason for the bounty is to see if Sidhujag's Daemon makes devcoin blocks that the old clients accept. We just need a single block for that. If it does, then we can make Sidhujag's the official client and archive the old one.

You really think its half the amount of work to test a pool than it is to develop the source? So does this mean he would have to dive into the source to figure out whats wrong if that os the case? Seems most of the hard work is in the code since that would be the problem and not the setup of a generic p2pool.

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Quote from: Unthinkingbit on February 07, 2014, 09:15:29 PM

Quote from: emfox on February 07, 2014, 08:13:13 PM

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I'm not objecting but is it better if we have an hashpower criteria, e.g. if the pool hash reach 20g, then it's ok for the 24 shares bounty. So not every pool who has deploy the same code can apply this bounty.

The reason for the bounty is to see if Sidhujag's Daemon makes devcoin blocks that the old clients accept. We just need a single block for that. If it does, then we can make Sidhujag's the official client and archive the old one.

Ok, it make sense.

I thought it's for the mining business bounty... so it's basically a wallet testing bounty Wink

Quote from: Hunterbunter on February 07, 2014, 09:08:19 PM

Quote from: emfox on February 07, 2014, 08:13:13 PM

Quote from: Unthinkingbit on February 07, 2014, 07:56:20 PM

Quote from: Hunterbunter on February 07, 2014, 05:52:20 PM

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The problem is with the devcoind daemon, or at least between the daemon and the server. I'm not sure if I've somehow inadvertently blocked access to the network for the devcoin daemon or what, but the other daemons don't seem to be having any issues so I've done something specifically to this.

The P2Pool is running fine with the other merged mine coins (at least they seem to be, but we haven't found any blocks yet).
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I suggest a 24 share bounty to the pool which mines the first devcoin block with Sidhujag's daemon. Any objections?

I'm not objecting but is it better if we have an hashpower criteria, e.g. if the pool hash reach 20g, then it's ok for the 24 shares bounty. So not every pool who has deploy the same code can apply this bounty.

I'm also not objecting what you're saying, but isn't it quite hard to get a devcoin block now anyway? Its difficulty is up there with bitcoin, so even the pool I set up is going to take a while to get an actual block I believe.

Speaking of which...wtb moar hashpower! Server's looking stable and sexy. The good thing about p2pool is even if mine goes down, you can automatically connect to a backup p2pool node in your conf files and keep going with the shares and everything you left off with.

Ok, I've not considering the pool as p2pool when I post the last reply. Yes, it's enough when we mined one first block out.

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Quote from: emfox on February 07, 2014, 08:13:13 PM

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I'm not objecting but is it better if we have an hashpower criteria, e.g. if the pool hash reach 20g, then it's ok for the 24 shares bounty. So not every pool who has deploy the same code can apply this bounty.

The reason for the bounty is to see if Sidhujag's Daemon makes devcoin blocks that the old clients accept. We just need a single block for that. If it does, then we can make Sidhujag's the official client and archive the old one.

Edit: Even though we only need a single block, I'll make it a standard bounty with half (12) for the block found by a second pool, so that more pools have incentive to try Sidhujag's code.

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Quote from: emfox on February 07, 2014, 08:13:13 PM

Quote from: Unthinkingbit on February 07, 2014, 07:56:20 PM

Quote from: Hunterbunter on February 07, 2014, 05:52:20 PM

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The problem is with the devcoind daemon, or at least between the daemon and the server. I'm not sure if I've somehow inadvertently blocked access to the network for the devcoin daemon or what, but the other daemons don't seem to be having any issues so I've done something specifically to this.

The P2Pool is running fine with the other merged mine coins (at least they seem to be, but we haven't found any blocks yet).
..

I suggest a 24 share bounty to the pool which mines the first devcoin block with Sidhujag's daemon. Any objections?

I'm not objecting but is it better if we have an hashpower criteria, e.g. if the pool hash reach 20g, then it's ok for the 24 shares bounty. So not every pool who has deploy the same code can apply this bounty.

I'm also not objecting what you're saying, but isn't it quite hard to get a devcoin block now anyway? Its difficulty is up there with bitcoin, so even the pool I set up is going to take a while to get an actual block I believe.

Speaking of which...wtb moar hashpower! Server's looking stable and sexy. The good thing about p2pool is even if mine goes down, you can automatically connect to a backup p2pool node in your conf files and keep going with the shares and everything you left off with.

Quote from: sidhujag on February 07, 2014, 01:27:32 PM

Hmm is the mergedmine proxy running? Thats what calls getauxblock..

You using latest source? Try to delete your wallet too if you dont have coins in it...

Is minimg happening when it crashes? Try to just get the mode up stable and synced before tirning on the proxy for the pool.

Did you do a clean build? Delete obj files manually?

Sometimes if its not closed properly it corrupts wallet amd database and crashes when reopened.. thats not a devcoin issue.

Can I vpn in or ssh to see?

Hmm I just read this more thoroughly. I realized the one thing I did was start p2pool before devcoin was fully synced - it had a corrupted database and I had to reindex it anyway, and after that it wouldn't work properly. It's the latest source, deleted all source files and re-cloned. I didn't have to clean the git did I? Anyway, now it's fully reindexed, and seems to have stopped crashing after I restarted p2pool without devcoin. The daemon seems to be running ok, and connections are growing again (connected to 12 so far).

Restarting p2pool now with devcoin merging...pray for my /wrists.

EDIT: sigh, no...basically p2pool tries to connect to devcoin which causes devcoind to go belly up:

p2pool log

Code:

 > Error while calling merged getauxblock on http://127.0.0.1:52332/:
2014-02-07 21:08:51.551955 > Traceback (most recent call last):
2014-02-07 21:08:51.552099 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 577, in _runCallbacks
2014-02-07 21:08:51.552274 >     current.result = callback(current.result, *args, **kw)
2014-02-07 21:08:51.552390 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1155, in gotResult
2014-02-07 21:08:51.552509 >     _inlineCallbacks(r, g, deferred)
2014-02-07 21:08:51.552615 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1097, in _inlineCallbacks
2014-02-07 21:08:51.552736 >     result = result.throwExceptionIntoGenerator(g)
2014-02-07 21:08:51.552848 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/python/failure.py", line 389, in throwExceptionIntoGenerator
2014-02-07 21:08:51.552971 >     return g.throw(self.type, self.value, self.tb)
2014-02-07 21:08:51.553082 > ---  ---
2014-02-07 21:08:51.553188 >   File "/home/amit/p2pool/p2pool/util/deferral.py", line 41, in f
2014-02-07 21:08:51.553301 >     result = yield func(*args, **kwargs)
2014-02-07 21:08:51.553409 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1097, in _inlineCallbacks
2014-02-07 21:08:51.553530 >     result = result.throwExceptionIntoGenerator(g)
2014-02-07 21:08:51.553640 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/python/failure.py", line 389, in throwExceptionIntoGenerator
2014-02-07 21:08:51.553768 >     return g.throw(self.type, self.value, self.tb)
2014-02-07 21:08:51.553879 >   File "/home/amit/p2pool/p2pool/util/jsonrpc.py", line 133, in _http_do
2014-02-07 21:08:51.553994 >     raise Error_for_code(resp['error']['code'])(resp['error']['message'], resp['error'].get('data', None))
2014-02-07 21:08:51.554117 > p2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -1 CreateNewBlock() : ConnectBlock failed

devcoind log - the getinfo I did just to see if it was working before restarting p2pool

Code:

ThreadRPCServer method=getinfo
keypool reserve 2
keypool return 2
CTxMemPool::accept() : accepted 5912842f1c77966b57d9976f6b1db1f208dee045f06dd8bc4ff21249e86a25fe (poolsz 1)
received getdata for: tx 5912842f1c77966b57d9976f6b1db1f208dee045f06dd8bc4ff21249e86a25fe
received getdata for: tx 5912842f1c77966b57d9976f6b1db1f208dee045f06dd8bc4ff21249e86a25fe
Flushed 1755 addresses to peers.dat  80ms
keypool reserve 2
ERROR: CTransaction::CheckTransaction() : txout.nValue negative
ERROR: CheckBlock() : CheckTransaction failed

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Quote from: Hunterbunter on February 07, 2014, 07:10:09 PM

Quote from: dalamar96 on February 07, 2014, 06:32:30 PM

I agree with Notabot. I am following it loosely, images don't work with some things (like fiction stories unless you draw them yourself) I don't want to penalize someone for that. I do look for grammar, spelling, etc and plagiarism of course. If it is a non-fiction, I look for backing information and links, but I don't pay much attention to how I feel about the article so much as if it is a good article or story. I don't think I should penalize the author just because it was something that didn't catch my fancy or that I wasn't interested in.

Is it worth editing the rating guide page and putting a summary of how you rate it (in the same vein as what's there I suppose), so other raters in the future can see it's really up to them how they rate it?

It does say it's up to the rater, but this round I found myself following the basic guide more than just doing what I did the first time I rated. My ratings tended to go more towards "Strong references and logical arguments" for opiniony/blog/non-fiction things, and images only if I felt it would have made it easier to read/understand the topic.

I go based on a mix, really. If it's something that should be factual, I expect proof of where the information came from. If it's an opinion or something, I don't. Images where needed are important as well, to me.

But, with that said, every article is different. I'm an authority source on what I write about; so for me to link to *other sources* isn't really possible; I'm the one people come to for information. Not the other way around. And I understand that there are a couple others here that may be in a similar situation. I try to judge the best I can.

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Quote from: Unthinkingbit on February 07, 2014, 07:56:20 PM

Quote from: Hunterbunter on February 07, 2014, 05:52:20 PM

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The problem is with the devcoind daemon, or at least between the daemon and the server. I'm not sure if I've somehow inadvertently blocked access to the network for the devcoin daemon or what, but the other daemons don't seem to be having any issues so I've done something specifically to this.

The P2Pool is running fine with the other merged mine coins (at least they seem to be, but we haven't found any blocks yet).
..

I suggest a 24 share bounty to the pool which mines the first devcoin block with Sidhujag's daemon. Any objections?

I'm not objecting but is it better if we have an hashpower criteria, e.g. if the pool hash reach 20g, then it's ok for the 24 shares bounty. So not every pool who has deploy the same code can apply this bounty.

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Quote from: Hunterbunter on February 07, 2014, 05:52:20 PM

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The problem is with the devcoind daemon, or at least between the daemon and the server. I'm not sure if I've somehow inadvertently blocked access to the network for the devcoin daemon or what, but the other daemons don't seem to be having any issues so I've done something specifically to this.

The P2Pool is running fine with the other merged mine coins (at least they seem to be, but we haven't found any blocks yet).
..

I suggest a 24 share bounty to the pool which mines the first devcoin block with Sidhujag's daemon. Any objections?

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Quote from: Hunterbunter on February 07, 2014, 07:10:09 PM

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Is it worth editing the rating guide page and putting a summary of how you rate it (in the same vein as what's there I suppose), so other raters in the future can see it's really up to them how they rate it?

It does say it's up to the rater, but this round I found myself following the basic guide more than just doing what I did the first time I rated. My ratings tended to go more towards "Strong references and logical arguments" for opiniony/blog/non-fiction things, and images only if I felt it would have made it easier to read/understand the topic.

People can add their own rating method. I'm using an overly objective and analytic method because I make decisions for many devcoiners and don't want to show any bias. That doesn't apply to most other raters, so there's no need to use a strict method.

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Quote from: dalamar96 on February 07, 2014, 06:32:30 PM

I agree with Notabot. I am following it loosely, images don't work with some things (like fiction stories unless you draw them yourself) I don't want to penalize someone for that. I do look for grammar, spelling, etc and plagiarism of course. If it is a non-fiction, I look for backing information and links, but I don't pay much attention to how I feel about the article so much as if it is a good article or story. I don't think I should penalize the author just because it was something that didn't catch my fancy or that I wasn't interested in.

Is it worth editing the rating guide page and putting a summary of how you rate it (in the same vein as what's there I suppose), so other raters in the future can see it's really up to them how they rate it?

It does say it's up to the rater, but this round I found myself following the basic guide more than just doing what I did the first time I rated. My ratings tended to go more towards "Strong references and logical arguments" for opiniony/blog/non-fiction things, and images only if I felt it would have made it easier to read/understand the topic.

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Quote from: notabot on February 07, 2014, 01:33:21 AM

Quote from: giftculturewriting on February 06, 2014, 09:22:50 PM

I've been doing ratings for the past two rounds, and I wanted to draw attention to the ratings system for writers who may not be familiar with it (I haven't been keeping up with the thread for the past few weeks, so if a similar post was made-- well, I guess I wouldn't be sorry because it's an important subject). This influences whether you are actually getting paid one share per thousand words, or less. This is the standard devtome rating rubric (http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_rater#rating_method). It has just CHANGED, and weights links and references for non-fiction article at 30/99 instead of 10/99. While we use an article as an example, the AUTHOR is also being rated.

I've noticed that even when I'm finding really neat articles, I end up docking them a lot of points because of the lack of links and references, and pictures. No links, references, or pictures? Bam, minus 39 points (used to be minus 19 points), right there. It takes a little extra time, but going through and putting in some links to resources, or articles that corroborate or contrast your opinion, and giving sources for your facts is really useful and important. How do we know where all your figures are coming from, otherwise? This is a hypertextual medium, and I'd encourage writers to take advantage of it. Adding a couple of pictures (you can find CC-BY-SA pictures at commons.wikimedia.org or via the search feature at creativecommons.org) also gives you up to 9 more points. Do yourself a favor.

On the other hand, don't rely on sprinkling in a few links and pictures to raise your rating. If I'm assigned an article that's a typo-laden, short-hand outline (which happens fairly often), I'm going to rate accordingly.

I just want to put this out there so people who are writing good stuff can maximize their earnings.

I'm only following the rating system loosely when rating articles. My scoring has been based on page and article formatting, grammar, sentence and paragraph structuring, along with the number and frequency of bullet points. Items noticed or looked for include a proper opening or introduction to the main body of text, a clear coherent flow of information, and the depth of the information upon the page.

If the page being scored is currently being worked on, my rating will tend to be based off of two other articles picked at random. My rating score is not affected that much by links or references as this skews the scoring away from original creative work that are stand alone web pages IMO. Scoring based on references at the suggested 30% of total score heavily skews the results/rewards/future content from non fiction to fiction. However the use of references and links are noted and do lean me towards a higher score, but not at the 30% level.

Where as non fiction delivers information, as long as it isn't opinion, fiction mainly is to entertain or just an exercise that a writer does. The scoring on my rating pages reward those who have put out hard earned information, comprehensive pages on a topic, or fiction that has kept me reading.

My rating does not reflect other articles by the writer, that is not to say that their other work wasn't looked at, but that a writers score was based upon the random page provided by the script. The point for writers, or anyone in any field to remember, is that any one is only as good as their worst piece of work.

The goal on Devtome (for writers) is to provide an opportunity for people to earn currency in exchange for their creative efforts, yet they must be graded against other writers so as to provide incentive for good writers, and for writers who have specialized knowledge, and also to ensure that writers who aren't meeting the standards do not skew the share distribution within devcoin between developers and writers. Writers are needed for the devcoin project to maintain momentum and interest, but to maintain that velocity and integrity, rating is essential to ensure that writers raise their standards and look at their work critically.

I agree with Notabot. I am following it loosely, images don't work with some things (like fiction stories unless you draw them yourself) I don't want to penalize someone for that. I do look for grammar, spelling, etc and plagiarism of course. If it is a non-fiction, I look for backing information and links, but I don't pay much attention to how I feel about the article so much as if it is a good article or story. I don't think I should penalize the author just because it was something that didn't catch my fancy or that I wasn't interested in.

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Quote from: sidhujag on February 07, 2014, 01:27:32 PM

Hmm is the mergedmine proxy running? Thats what calls getauxblock..

You using latest source? Try to delete your wallet too if you dont have coins in it...

Is minimg happening when it crashes? Try to just get the mode up stable and synced before tirning on the proxy for the pool.

Did you do a clean build? Delete obj files manually?

Sometimes if its not closed properly it corrupts wallet amd database and crashes when reopened.. thats not a devcoin issue.

Can I vpn in or ssh to see?

Yeah it's really weird. I did a full directory delete and restarted it, it loaded the blocks fine, but when it gets to the top end it just keeps messing about.

here's my devcoin.conf:

Code:

daemon=1
rpcuser=
rpcpassword=
port=52333
rpcport=52332
discover=1
listen=1
addnode=198.154.60.183

the discover/listen I tried to no avail (didn't have them before). Here's my startup script, which is a generic copy of all my other daemons:

Code:

#!/bin/sh
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides:             devcoind
# Required-Start:       $all
# Required-Stop:        $all
# Default-Start:        2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop:         0 1 6
# Short-Description:    Start Devcoin Daemon
# Description:          Run Devcoin Daemon
### END INIT INFO

TITLE=Devcoin
NAME=devcoin
EXEC=devcoind
EXECPATH=/usr/local/bin/$EXEC
BASE=/home/amit/.${NAME}/
CONF=${BASE}${NAME}.conf
CHUID=amit:amit

# Carry out specific functions when asked to by the system
case "$1" in
  start)
        $EXECPATH -daemon -conf=$CONF -datadir=$BASE
    ;;
  stop)
        $EXECPATH stop
    ;;
  *)
    echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/$EXEC {start|stop}"
    exit 1
    ;;
esac

exit 0

The problem is with the devcoind daemon, or at least between the daemon and the server. I'm not sure if I've somehow inadvertently blocked access to the network for the devcoin daemon or what, but the other daemons don't seem to be having any issues so I've done something specifically to this.

The P2Pool is running fine with the other merged mine coins (at least they seem to be, but we haven't found any blocks yet).

Send me your rsa_pub and I'll give you access to ssh.

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Quote from: emfox on February 07, 2014, 01:01:39 AM

Thanks for the excellent pool, finally we have such a pool that pays out devcoins!

I immediately switched my 3G hash/s miner to your pool and everything seems fine with cgminer. then I goto your page at blisterpool.com, and try to register with my bitcoin and devcoin address, but it shows a message "VALIDATION_ERROR: 'module' object has no attribute 'Validate'". something wrong with the page? or should I do something more? Also, I see the "Stats" Column writing "Coming Soon", I think it should be implemented first, 'cause people don't like throw their hash power into a pool which cannot observe the mining status instantly

Hey again, I saw your miner hop back on when the pool was back up...did you find the pool stats page at the top? (http://blisterpool.com/stats ) That shows how much is going through by bitcoin address if you scroll down. It's just a basic open-source front end for the p2pool, not very fancy, but I still have to dive into the p2pool data to figure out how it's actually storing stuff so I can give better stats and figure out the bonus payouts etc.

Also, I noticed you got a p2pool share this morning, yay! It means I have something to work with for the bonus payout scripts.

Quote from: cdelatorref on February 07, 2014, 08:27:06 AM

Ok!
Looks like I'm finally mining, I tried up since yesterday and finally I'm mining with the 139jTYFSBed77zXwtZMtVSrMgyYBXF8Fxr Address, the pool is nice looking and I love the way it looks, the part I really liked is you can put your BTC adress as username, one thing I recommend to improve is an optional e-mail when you register yourself to obtain pool related news and announcements.
The 1% fee looks fair to me, and the graphical design is far superior from the standard merged pools, I liked you are mining merged coins with BTC, but I suggest you make them visible, like you say: "We are mining NMC, IXC..."
I think at first you should distribute randomly some DVC (given by community) to the miners to attract them to the pool.

Awesome, I can see you in the database, but the server stats don't seem to be registering any hash from your address (http://blisterpool.com/stats - click graph and scroll down to miners). Emfox's address got a share / payout so I know that's working ok (yay). I've got my miner on there on the 17ep6P address but it's only an old 6990 so not very much power; it's on the graphs too.

That's a good idea with the email list, I'll add that too.

I thought it might have been a bit confusing listing all the merge mined coins on the front page, because those are mostly what I'm using to produce the devcoins. I do have them listed here: http://www.blisterpool.com/BP/method but do you still think I should put them on the front page? Thanks for your feedback btw

. My OCD is wondering where your hashes are going, though, was it you that had the block erupter? I wonder if it needs special settings.

Quote from: smeagol on February 07, 2014, 05:31:52 PM

Is there a way to see all ratings, by user? It seems tedious to go through every rating page.

I agree this would be useful...I'll see if I can whip up something on dvccountdown.

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Managed to help out the maxcoin guys by creating the windows wallet, they had a hard time compiling the spaghetti code... here is their tweet:

https://twitter.com/maxcoinproject

love to devtome as a shoutout.

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Is there a way to see all ratings, by user? It seems tedious to go through every rating page.

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Quote from: tayfun73 on February 07, 2014, 03:21:27 AM

Quote from: giftculturewriting on February 06, 2014, 09:22:50 PM

I've been doing ratings for the past two rounds, and I wanted to draw attention to the ratings system for writers who may not be familiar with it (I haven't been keeping up with the thread for the past few weeks, so if a similar post was made-- well, I guess I wouldn't be sorry because it's an important subject). This influences whether you are actually getting paid one share per thousand words, or less. This is the standard devtome rating rubric (http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_rater#rating_method). It has just CHANGED, and weights links and references for non-fiction article at 30/99 instead of 10/99. While we use an article as an example, the AUTHOR is also being rated.

I've noticed that even when I'm finding really neat articles, I end up docking them a lot of points because of the lack of links and references, and pictures. No links, references, or pictures? Bam, minus 39 points (used to be minus 19 points), right there. It takes a little extra time, but going through and putting in some links to resources, or articles that corroborate or contrast your opinion, and giving sources for your facts is really useful and important. How do we know where all your figures are coming from, otherwise? This is a hypertextual medium, and I'd encourage writers to take advantage of it. Adding a couple of pictures (you can find CC-BY-SA pictures at commons.wikimedia.org or via the search feature at creativecommons.org) also gives you up to 9 more points. Do yourself a favor.

On the other hand, don't rely on sprinkling in a few links and pictures to raise your rating. If I'm assigned an article that's a typo-laden, short-hand outline (which happens fairly often), I'm going to rate accordingly.

I just want to put this out there so people who are writing good stuff can maximize their earnings.

That's fair enough, the writers should get the fair share of return according to quality of work, especially those who put in the extra effort. I read on one of the writing tips pages that shares could also range between 0.5 - 1.5 x shares, depending on certain criteria, such as references, formatting, photos, grammar and number of visits to the page. Is this still the case?

Check out the rubric page linked above and you'll see the exact values given for each criteria.

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Quote from: bit-fxtrader on February 07, 2014, 11:21:10 AM

Hey, me again. I'm confused, I noticed someone put some of my articles in my assigned categories but I still haven't been contacted re payment or added to the list. Is this list not being regularly updated and where can I see my ''review'' score?

http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/devtome

I understand that there is a backlog as most of my newer articles have yet to be categorized but doesn't this process go hand in hand with article reviews?

Hi bit-fxtrader. Please do not worry! As long as you post the articles on Devtome before the cut off you will be paid for the articles during the next payment round. Just make sure that you have also added the articles to your Devtome profile page correctly to make sure you receive your shares (as when the script is run at the end of the cut off it uses your Devtome profile page to see your new articles and word count)!

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