Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 253. (Read 1058949 times)

Sorry, just saw how blunt that reads. My flatmate waited patiently for me to finish the last post and I was in a hurry to respond to yours before I left the computer. i didn't mean to be so rude tho.

I think the idea sounds great, my only question would be, is this a US thing or can we bring Australia in too?

Which nation?

Me too, my crappy old Andriod will be so much cooler with your app



This is where I am at. I came to Devtome looking for a way to pay the rent but what I found here is more than rent, its a space to grow and I am totally 100% committed to helping build the community that Devcoin supports. The concern I have, is that at the moment Devcoin is only worth what the exchange will swap for it, which is still not really at a value that recognises open source or original work, for it's true value.

I wish I could say that my Devtome payouts would all be faithfully stored and saved away, but truth is I have been recovering from an assault and have not worked in months and am really only able to work from home. The websites I used to build for fun, or because I cared about the client are now an important part of my income, as will be the writing I used to do for employers, community groups or just sheer enjoyment.

Knowing this, and knowing everyone else is saving their Devcoins and helping build their value, I feel a bit "shame"* in front of all of you.

So.. I am looking at other ways I can contribute and if what I have come up with is really way off, pleas tell me so I can correct it.

In my case, I've used open source software for years and I've made a few donations over time, but I feel like Devcoin is a way to pay back to that community for all it's support. I will never be a wealthy web designer, because not all code is "open source" and over half my sites have been for people who already paid $1000's for websites, built using crap code that cant be expanded or built on, and ensure the customer is forever locked to one IT company or person, so I end up feeling sorry for the client and working out a favour.

My clients now understand the difference, and I believe some will even support Devcoin because of that, so I added it as a payment option, and set up a FAQ for those that want to pay that way. When I send out hosting invoices during this year I'm including an announcement re: Devcoins and the FAQ. I have also offered a discount and free hosting to the first site paid for using Devcoin, and put it on the announcements post and alt coin services posts, added it to reddit and Ive started talking about it on LinkedIn.

I dont want to just "take" from Devcoin; I don't do speculation or day markets or any of the investor stuff and I understand for the need for it with this new crypto environment but I am hoping it is not the only way to contribute, and that my contributions might count in some small way as well.

Ps I am also working on a Joomla module to show DVC/BTC and USD, but its a long time since I coded, and the last thing I remember that even counts was a javascript to stop people printing my images... it could be a while before the module is working, but It is a way for me to learn the technology around crypto as well. I wont be charging for the finished module, but I will add it to the Joomla database with DVC set as the default currency and hope to raise a bit more awareness.

(local indigenous colloquialism that really is the only word that really says what I mean, but it isnt ashamed like english...its more shame like wishing you did better when scolded by a favourite aunt?)

The easiest way for Devcoin to have its moment in the sun will be through people talking about it or having a little buzz. We should come up with an ongoing bounty that could get people talking. An easy way to do this would be to allow a certain amount of shares per round to go towards a charitable cause. It could be St Jude's Children's Hospital or something else that has a name that is known nationwide. After the donation is made, then do a PR about the charitable donation.

There might also be a way to sell items on ebay with all proceeds earmarked for charity.

Bittzy78

Hello everyone! Sidhujag I can not wait to see your wallet for android. I am wondering though is it possible for us to get an Apple wallet? I know that Apple does not like bitcoin and they took away Coinbase from the app store. Does anyone know if this is a possibility?
-AM

Yep you set a range of prices and it works out the rest. It tells you the avg market price (or you can look it up) and if you put the min and max amounts both above the price they will be all sell orders, and vice versa.

With the effort I am putting into making the android wallet I hope it pays off... we will be able to make payments using mobile's and use QR codes to make payments from/to mobile wallets or an online application. You can use NFC to make payments to another mobile wallet by simply pointing and paying. Imagine telling store owners they can compete with starbucks style payment mechanisms with one that is better and supports point and click payment without the need for customized equipment for that payment thingamajig.

Thanks for the link. Time to start informing our fellow people a lot more about Devcoin. The main site is fabulous nowadays and a great place to point your contacts to. Let's focus on the main objective: getting more capable people into Devcoin, letting them earn Devcoins with bigger and better projects.

Is there a way to only buy or only sell with the shotgunbot?

I already have a standing invitation to swap guest posts on another personal finance blog (http://cashcowcouple.com/) but haven't answered them in a couple of weeks. I just sent them an email asking them if they still want to swap guest posts. I have one short article already mostly completed about alt-coin speculation that is a little generic but mentions Devcoin more than others.

If you want to do an article on something along the lines of how to make money writing on Devtome that meets the criteria of what we have on Money and Potatoes ( http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com/write-for-us/ )... I can guarantee that it will be published.

Just mention in your bio that you are regular contributor to the Devtome Wiki and be sure not to post the article on this forum (but I am sure you already know that.)

Ah, I think you can make stand alone executables with python, but I had a quick look how to and I started to cry. It's much easier to just install it following this guide: http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/starting/install/win/

To run the bot you can just do a git clone using this url: https://github.com/hunterbunter/vircurex-python-shotgunbot.git

or cut/paste all the files locally (git is better), then just type "python shotgunbot.py" and away you go.

The bot takes in your minimum price and maximum price, how much you want to spend in each currency, what price difference you want between orders (or how many total orders you want to place), and it'll work out the rest. Vircurex has a limit for 100 orders via api, but it doesn't actually stop you from putting more with the bot...until some random point when they run their scripts.

Great! Well if no one objects you'll get 6 shares next month to try and arrange guest posts on the blogs at http://www.moneycrashers.com/top-personal-finance-blogs/ If you get one (or more) I'll help you with the article(s)

We can also work on a press kit in PDF format to be hosted at devcoin.org - great idea.

Yeah, I would be willing to give it a shot for a month and see how it goes.

Great way to support DVC and also profit at the same time - I might have to start doing the same - although I have a few less coins than you 

How does the shotgun bot work?  I don't have python, so is there anyway I can get a precompiled executable?

It's still up 200% from what it was 2 months ago, I believe.

Devcoins are different to other crypto-currencies, as the way they're earned is a bit different. With normal cryptocurrencies, the cost of a bitcoin/litecoin etc is the electricity used to mine them, plus hardware capital recovery. With devcoins, the cost of mining is piggy-backed on bitcoin mining - it's almost nothing, but the cost of earning generational shares is rent, food, etc. People who earn devcoins are applying their creative output instead of a purely mechanized process (much more expensive), so it's natural to expect a steady draw of coins as people get paid for the open-source work they do, to pay for what they need to live, etc. The only long term inputs to the price, are; long term speculators, advertising revenue, and philanthropist injection, and combined they have to put in as much as people are taking out to keep the price steady at any rate. I think people should be free to withdraw their coins as they see fit, to pay for what they need to live (just as miners need to withdraw to mine another day). The spread strategy is a good one for personal gain, but the market cost comes in the form of resistance against a price rise, and a rising price is what attracts more developers, just like a rising price is what attracts more bitcoin miners.

In my opinion, there are only a few ways that devcoins will ever have of actually becoming valuable (for savers/holders/speculators):

 - The work that those earning devcoins do is impressive. Like seriously impressive enough for people to want to throw cash at it.
 - A large number of people make the effort to earn devcoins. More coins in more hands mean more market penetration, and more chance of impressive work being created.
 - Everyone talks about it and why they're different to all the other coins, attracting a crowd not typically or particularly interested in crypto-currency - this is key.

The last one is the big one, as the other two are partially linked to price. People need a point of difference to understand the importance of any product in a marketplace, and the devcoin angle is not an especially easy one to like when considering wealth storage, which is the going thing for most alt-coins. It's a terrible store of wealth! But it's a truly great idea for humankind. It's an actual, ethical currency that has a purpose beyond "mine and hold", so it's appeal actually has to reach a different set of people than those who are interested in bitcoin/altcoin mining/holding. Devcoins need to find the ears of wealthy people who think open source is vitally important to the future of humankind, because their input is what is essentially going to pay for it. Devcoins give people like this the mechanism to help every human. Advertising revenue will increase with quality of work.

So for now we're building the base through which the others that follow us will benefit, and I think realizing why devcoins are so different is key to it's success.

Where are you doing this and is it between DVC and BTC or LTC?

There is a page at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_how_to_post_an_image which has info on how to create your own folder, link internally and externally, resize your displayed image, and align it right or left on the page.

There are 2 people in particular who I'd love for us to reach out to as a community as I think they are a perfect fit for Devcoin and just the slightest mention of Devcoin from them would surely cause a huge increase in awareness:

1) Richard Branson
2) Mark Shuttleworth of the Canonical Foundation (creators of Ubuntu)

They are both philanthropists, they've both been to space, Shuttleworth is like the personification of open source and Branson even just start accepting Bitcoin as payment for future space travels with his company. Talk about a perfect fit!

I don't really know the best way to approach them though - I'm just the web guy   I can certainly take some of the web content and prepare a powerpoint deck, but maybe there is someone among us with some experience in pitching ventures to big wigs like these guys?

DeVCoin price is actually quite high still, it had hovered around 30 Satoshis for a long time, a bit below, a bit above.

But periodically it skyrockets, last time all my sells through 193 Satoshis got bought, allowing me to reinforce my buys massively.

Now we are in the usual drop back down, eating up my buy offers, providing me DeVCoins to place back on the sell side. I have half a million DeVCoins for sale at each price all the way down to 63 Satoshis now.

Maybe this time we won't quite hit 30, we'll see. My buys get bigger and bigger down in the low range so might be able to gobble up all the dumping before it even gets as low as 30. I am looking forward to the next skyrocket though, maybe it will go over 200 on the next one...

-MarkM-