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I agree with this. Is there such a thing as an open source charity? Or is that just a weird question?

Yes it's called Devcoin  Wink Seriously though - if we could build partnerships with for example Ubuntu - that is probably the way to go. Start canvassing open source organisations / movements / groups.


Would open source medicine be something to consider? I only just read about them maybe a week ago and tagged it for research for a future article, so I cant speak to their suitability, but the idea seems to fit.

http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/267234/open-source-medicine-puts-health-above-profits
http://osmso.org/
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I do not give financial advice .. do your own DD
Devcoin has been mentioned in a Wired article http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/13/dogecoin-and-the-era-of-personal-currency

EDIT: Time to reopen the Devcoin page on Wikipedia - I can't believe they deleted it we had just as many refs as most of the other alt coins - what a joke!




Cool! just a couple of articles such as this one could have people all over the place asking questions about Devcoins.

I think the lack of exposure of what Devcoin is and what it is about could easily be taken care of by the end of the year with some timely articles by a few major news outlets. Maybe an admin that is dedicated to being the media and/blog point-of-contact would be in order.

One of the easiest and cheapest ways to raise awareness of Devcoin would be to go the guest post route on financial blogs. If you check out the Money Crashers list of person finance blogs (below) many of them allow guest posts.

http://www.moneycrashers.com/top-personal-finance-blogs/

One would simply need to contact the owners of the blogs and ask if they can submit a unique article about Devcoins and/or Devtome. Most blogs are usually hungry for new contact and will gladly accept your offer as long as your request email doesn't look spammy. The key factor about guest posting is that the guest poster never has to pay money for it. The blog owner gets new (and free) content and the guest poster is allowed two or three links links back to their blog, Facebook page and/or a Wiki such as Devtome.


I am using my personal finance blog that I co-run with a couple of other people (below) as an example because most are set up in a similar fashion.

http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com

We have a write for us link across the top of the blog and we do get almost daily requests for guest blog posting. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the requests are of the spammy variety and they never get posted on the blog. However, we have had several valid ones that were published and they provided our blog with some good content.

The key to getting this accomplished would be someone having the ability to write about Devcoin/Devtome from several different angles and always coming up with what amounts to roughly 90% new content with each article.

It might also help to have a PDF type press packet that is tied to a domain so a link could be provided to the blog owners so that they can quickly and easily see what Devcoin is about.


~2 cents~

Bittzy78


I'm coordinating the marketing / press of Devcoin at the moment with monthly ad campaigns and press releases (which perhaps is how Wired heard about us). The biggest outlets we've been on from these is The Wall Street Journal and Yahoo Finance.

I would like to give you 6 shares next month - for you to put the above into action.

Would you like to do it? And are there any objections from anyone here?

Yeah, I would be willing to give it a shot for a month and see how it goes.


Great! Well if no one objects you'll get 6 shares next month to try and arrange guest posts on the blogs at http://www.moneycrashers.com/top-personal-finance-blogs/ If you get one (or more) I'll help you with the article(s) Wink

We can also work on a press kit in PDF format to be hosted at devcoin.org - great idea.

I already have a standing invitation to swap guest posts on another personal finance blog (http://cashcowcouple.com/) but haven't answered them in a couple of weeks. I just sent them an email asking them if they still want to swap guest posts. I have one short article already mostly completed about alt-coin speculation that is a little generic but mentions Devcoin more than others.

If you want to do an article on something along the lines of how to make money writing on Devtome that meets the criteria of what we have on Money and Potatoes ( http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com/write-for-us/ )... I can guarantee that it will be published. Smiley

Just mention in your bio that you are regular contributor to the Devtome Wiki and be sure not to post the article on this forum (but I am sure you already know that.)


Great! Well as I have the power to assign a small number of shares for marketing purposes - you will get 6 next month to contact all the blogs at http://www.moneycrashers.com/top-personal-finance-blogs/  and ask for guest posts Smiley Please PM me with your DVC address which can accept generated Devcoin shares (a wallet on your computer).

I've noticed Heavy covers many different cryptocurrencies (http://www.heavy.com/tech/2013/12/dogecoin-what-is-shibe-cryptocurrenc/) so I have contacted them about doing a write up about Devcoin.

In re to guest posting on your blog - does your blog get a lot of traffic?

The blog usually gets about 175 - 250 hits a day, so not a ton of traffic but it is read and quickly indexed by Google.

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Devcoin has been mentioned in a Wired article http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/13/dogecoin-and-the-era-of-personal-currency

EDIT: Time to reopen the Devcoin page on Wikipedia - I can't believe they deleted it we had just as many refs as most of the other alt coins - what a joke!




Cool! just a couple of articles such as this one could have people all over the place asking questions about Devcoins.

I think the lack of exposure of what Devcoin is and what it is about could easily be taken care of by the end of the year with some timely articles by a few major news outlets. Maybe an admin that is dedicated to being the media and/blog point-of-contact would be in order.

One of the easiest and cheapest ways to raise awareness of Devcoin would be to go the guest post route on financial blogs. If you check out the Money Crashers list of person finance blogs (below) many of them allow guest posts.

http://www.moneycrashers.com/top-personal-finance-blogs/

One would simply need to contact the owners of the blogs and ask if they can submit a unique article about Devcoins and/or Devtome. Most blogs are usually hungry for new contact and will gladly accept your offer as long as your request email doesn't look spammy. The key factor about guest posting is that the guest poster never has to pay money for it. The blog owner gets new (and free) content and the guest poster is allowed two or three links links back to their blog, Facebook page and/or a Wiki such as Devtome.


I am using my personal finance blog that I co-run with a couple of other people (below) as an example because most are set up in a similar fashion.

http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com

We have a write for us link across the top of the blog and we do get almost daily requests for guest blog posting. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the requests are of the spammy variety and they never get posted on the blog. However, we have had several valid ones that were published and they provided our blog with some good content.

The key to getting this accomplished would be someone having the ability to write about Devcoin/Devtome from several different angles and always coming up with what amounts to roughly 90% new content with each article.

It might also help to have a PDF type press packet that is tied to a domain so a link could be provided to the blog owners so that they can quickly and easily see what Devcoin is about.


~2 cents~

Bittzy78


I'm coordinating the marketing / press of Devcoin at the moment with monthly ad campaigns and press releases (which perhaps is how Wired heard about us). The biggest outlets we've been on from these is The Wall Street Journal and Yahoo Finance.

I would like to give you 6 shares next month - for you to put the above into action.

Would you like to do it? And are there any objections from anyone here?

Yeah, I would be willing to give it a shot for a month and see how it goes.


Great! Well if no one objects you'll get 6 shares next month to try and arrange guest posts on the blogs at http://www.moneycrashers.com/top-personal-finance-blogs/ If you get one (or more) I'll help you with the article(s) Wink

We can also work on a press kit in PDF format to be hosted at devcoin.org - great idea.

I already have a standing invitation to swap guest posts on another personal finance blog (http://cashcowcouple.com/) but haven't answered them in a couple of weeks. I just sent them an email asking them if they still want to swap guest posts. I have one short article already mostly completed about alt-coin speculation that is a little generic but mentions Devcoin more than others.

If you want to do an article on something along the lines of how to make money writing on Devtome that meets the criteria of what we have on Money and Potatoes ( http://www.moneyandpotatoes.com/write-for-us/ )... I can guarantee that it will be published. Smiley

Just mention in your bio that you are regular contributor to the Devtome Wiki and be sure not to post the article on this forum (but I am sure you already know that.)


Great! Well as I have the power to assign a small number of shares for marketing purposes - you will get 6 next month to contact all the blogs at http://www.moneycrashers.com/top-personal-finance-blogs/  and ask for guest posts Smiley Please PM me with your DVC address which can accept generated Devcoin shares (a wallet on your computer).

I've noticed Heavy covers many different cryptocurrencies (http://www.heavy.com/tech/2013/12/dogecoin-what-is-shibe-cryptocurrenc/) so I have contacted them about doing a write up about Devcoin.

In re to guest posting on your blog - does your blog get a lot of traffic?
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The easiest way for Devcoin to have its moment in the sun will be through people talking about it or having a little buzz. We should come up with an ongoing bounty that could get people talking. An easy way to do this would be to allow a certain amount of shares per round to go towards a charitable cause. It could be St Jude's Children's Hospital or something else that has a name that is known nationwide. After the donation is made, then do a PR about the charitable donation.

There might also be a way to sell items on ebay with all proceeds earmarked for charity.

Bittzy78
Wouldn't it be better for the cause to be an open-source project? Not a comment against charity but it's usually local, and philanthropy/funding and charity aren't the same thing.

Re. Wikipedia - basically needs a decent length and depth article by a very mainstream source that focuses on Devcoin.

I agree with this. Is there such a thing as an open source charity? Or is that just a weird question?

Yes it's called Devcoin  Wink Seriously though - if we could build partnerships with for example Ubuntu - that is probably the way to go. Start canvassing open source organisations / movements / groups.
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The easiest way for Devcoin to have its moment in the sun will be through people talking about it or having a little buzz. We should come up with an ongoing bounty that could get people talking. An easy way to do this would be to allow a certain amount of shares per round to go towards a charitable cause. It could be St Jude's Children's Hospital or something else that has a name that is known nationwide. After the donation is made, then do a PR about the charitable donation.

There might also be a way to sell items on ebay with all proceeds earmarked for charity.

Bittzy78
Wouldn't it be better for the cause to be an open-source project? Not a comment against charity but it's usually local, and philanthropy/funding and charity aren't the same thing.

Re. Wikipedia - basically needs a decent length and depth article by a very mainstream source that focuses on Devcoin.

I agree with this. Is there such a thing as an open source charity? Or is that just a weird question?
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The easiest way for Devcoin to have its moment in the sun will be through people talking about it or having a little buzz. We should come up with an ongoing bounty that could get people talking. An easy way to do this would be to allow a certain amount of shares per round to go towards a charitable cause. It could be St Jude's Children's Hospital or something else that has a name that is known nationwide. After the donation is made, then do a PR about the charitable donation.

There might also be a way to sell items on ebay with all proceeds earmarked for charity.

Bittzy78
Wouldn't it be better for the cause to be an open-source project? Not a comment against charity but it's usually local, and philanthropy/funding and charity aren't the same thing.

Re. Wikipedia - basically needs a decent length and depth article by a very mainstream source that focuses on Devcoin.
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Just a heads up, managed to get 12-hr chart data off markm's ticker into my db in one piece, and you can see the long term history of dvc/usd here: http://dvcusdchart.blisteringdevelopers.com/daily

It's not a candle chart, just a spot price but it's sure interesting to look at. Forgive my crappy aesthetics.

EDIT: oops forgot to convert to USD, will fix.

EDIT2: fixed Smiley
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Great to hear that everyone is wanting to rev up publicity. It's important. But not all PR is good PR, regardless of what Miley Cyrus may have told you.

Hairy-beard dude on youtube, i hope you read this. We all love your spirit, but you need to take down those videos and replace them with something a bit more useful. If we want to see devcoin accepted by the public we need a public image, ie face, that is acceptable.

Also, Anyone who follows peer or primecoin might know that Sunny King does a weekly update. Can we do something like this?



A very good idea! Since it will greatly increase our community awareness.  I'd like to do it, but i'm not native english speaker, so if someone else does it, I'll translate it into Chinese.


I would do it if someone else can provide the "news" (I can write it up as copy but need material)
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I actually reside in the great nation of Texas, just throwing that out there. Smiley



if you ever get Secession rolling, let me know.... "colorado is becoming "Kolorado".... although there is a secessionist movement here too... the State of Jefferson.....
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Awesome!  I've been reaching out to some projects on their IRC channels (e.g. #blendercoders) but haven't received much of a response.
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When the devcoin price went up we could afford more shares, so I asked Smeagol to contact big projects, like Blender, to see if any of their developers wanted to go on a share list. No one from the contacted projects asked to go on the share list, so I asked Smeagol to stop the outreach and handle the bounty payouts instead. He made the page:
http://devticker.pw/business_bounty/business_bounty_32.csv

He'll put the bounties there, it's listed on the account location page:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/account_location.csv

as:
Business Bounty,http://devticker.pw/business_bounty/business_bounty_xx.csv

it will get picked up whenever account.py is run. I'm still keeping bounty_xx.csv to handle the ongoing payments. I asked Smeagol to call it business_bounty_xx.csv, even though it's for all awards, to avoid a name collision. If a bounty is awarded on this thread, and it doesn't get listed there after a few days, please contact Smeagol.
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Great to hear that everyone is wanting to rev up publicity. It's important. But not all PR is good PR, regardless of what Miley Cyrus may have told you.

Hairy-beard dude on youtube, i hope you read this. We all love your spirit, but you need to take down those videos and replace them with something a bit more useful. If we want to see devcoin accepted by the public we need a public image, ie face, that is acceptable.

Also, Anyone who follows peer or primecoin might know that Sunny King does a weekly update. Can we do something like this?



A very good idea! Since it will greatly increase our community awareness.  I'd like to do it, but i'm not native english speaker, so if someone else does it, I'll translate it into Chinese.
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I see - well the first DVC press release we did which went on Yahoo Finance, Wallstreet Journal etc was funded by Devcoin. So maybe someone would be kind enough to write a review? Otherwise UnthinkingBit funded it so perhaps he would need to provide the review.

He's so busy running the project though I don't want to give him more to do!

Oh, ok.   Smiley  I'll have Unthinkingbit confirm that and then I'll give you the bounty!

I asked Psybits to issue a press release for devcoin and be the PR spokesman. Within a few days he wrote a press release which covered all the main devcoin points, without being too long. He sent it out to many, I think hundreds of sites, including the Wall Street Journal. The devcoin price went from around 50 satoshis to over 150. We got many new contributors, including writers and programmers. I was so happy with the press release that I gave him 6 shares ongoing afterwards, and boosted that each round. In round 31 it was 12 shares, and in this round it's now 18 shares.

In large part because of his press release and marketing, we can afford to pay more people and do more stuff.
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2)  This was becoming a concern for me as well.  It is imperative to reference factually based claims to differentiate between opinion and fact.  It also goes a long way in legitimizing devtome as a whole.

I am in the habit of having a reference section at the bottom of my factual articles and I was wondering if that was the preferred method or do the admins have a different way they want articles reference.  I have no problem altering my writing style to fit the needs of the community.  Thanks for any guidance with this.
It can be done via references, references and footnotes - will depend on the subject matter. The issue is that an increasing number of articles on alleged scientific and reference topics are amounting to unformatted word dumps or opinion. These articles need to be changed or at some point they may have to be removed because the value of a submission that provides incorrect 'factual' info is zero.

I prefer links in the article rather than footnotes at the end. In my opinion; footnotes are for printed articles, on the web links are better.

I agree that links are important, so I recommend that raters put a higher weight on links. I changed the recommended link weighting from 10 to 30 at:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_rater#rating_method
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yes
Sidhujag, I think your Android wallet will be a major, major step forward. I have been using the Doge Android wallet, tipping people and so, a lot and with great pleasure. It keeps the coin at the center of my attention.

I would love to do the same with Devcoin, showing it to people when discussing it. I cannot value your work enough in this respect.
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if there's anything i need to expand on, or clarify, any feedback would be helpful....
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http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=cryptocurrency_day_trading

Finished, well mostly. i probably will add more links, but the main body is complete.

there was a BOUNTY for presenting an Investment/Trading strategy?

have a look....... I'm not a financial wizard, but this should work for most people who can do basic math and a little web browsing....
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Great to hear that everyone is wanting to rev up publicity. It's important. But not all PR is good PR, regardless of what Miley Cyrus may have told you.

Hairy-beard dude on youtube, i hope you read this. We all love your spirit, but you need to take down those videos and replace them with something a bit more useful. If we want to see devcoin accepted by the public we need a public image, ie face, that is acceptable.

Also, Anyone who follows peer or primecoin might know that Sunny King does a weekly update. Can we do something like this?

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Where are you doing this and is it between DVC and BTC or LTC?

DVC/BTC. Thats why I said Satoshis instead of, for example, Liteoshis. Cheesy

(At Vircurex.)

-MarkM-
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I was thinking about the conversation being had about devtome and it's accessibility. I agree it needs quite an overhaul in the long run to appeal as a source of "stuff" to the general public.

I'd like to propose a bounty, if I may, for "A better devtome system". 6 different strategies for 6 shares each, on how devtome can best be organised to:

Allow contributors to easily add content (as they do currently via the wiki version, but it doesn't have to be this way; think about the options).
Allow easy indexing of the content so categories form more naturally.
Allow easy administration for tasks such as plagiarism checks, copyright checks, managing writers (if need be), etc.
Allow the audience to find what they want quickly (front page with random articles? automatic related article finder? automatic internal hyperlink system? etc).
Ideas for a better categorization system, if one exists.
Ideas for other ways of delivering content - eg reading apps for mobile devices?

This is a discussion paper where the writer describes what the perfect system would be like, by identifying problems with the current system and imaging improvements. You don't necessarily have to practically solve them, just logically. I would expect each page to be 1000 words or more, to thoroughly explore the topic. The above parts are just examples of things to think about, but there are tons more worth considering and the writers can explore ideas and brainstorm. I'd also encourage the later bounty seekers to absorb the good ideas from the first few in their own, if they can - this is open source, after all!

I'm not sure whether the wiki has plugin options, but if it does, we can either consider building the current one out to better fit our needs (and the needs of our readers), or biding our time until we can build our own software in the future if it's more valuable. Again, this is just about ideas at the moment, on how we can make it a pleasant experience as possible for mass audiences, such that they would find themselves having a hard time staying away.

Any objections? Is 6/6 overkill?
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Hi guys,

I write for Examiner.com (in addition to devtome and my own blogs), a very high-traffic website. I would be happy to write articles about both devcoin and devtome to help the cause and increase awareness.
Please do, and keep us updated!  Cheesy
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