Topic: E-mail spam from the Trumpsteins - page 3. (Read 682 times)

It's a single-use address so that's exactly what you should do. Unsubscribe and if they don't stop spamming - sue them. You'll be famous.

That "rule" was important in 1990s maybe. It doesn't really matter now that most spam is quietly dropped before reaching your eyeballs. You don't lose anything by clicking "unsubscribe". But if you refuse to "unsubscribe" and keep complaining that they're spamming you - that's quite dumb.

You guys might be a bit noobish with this whole e-mail thing.  It's a fundamental rule to NEVER EVER 'unsubscribe' to a scammer.  All this does is confirm that the mail is being read and makes your addy much more valuable.

It's quite difficult for people who grew up around 'Christain values' to comprehend, but spammers have a whole different way of looking at the world.  'Unsubscribing' only proves that you are a weak-minded sucker.  And as such, your addy is a lot more valuable on the trading block.

As I have demonstrated,

  A) The Trump clan are running this thing and have not sold or lost my e-mail addy.  Yet.  If you don't understand the technical details of this, please reserach it on your own since I don't have the time and interest to walk you through it.

  B) The Trump clan are the lowest of the low spammer types based on the frequency and content of their spam.  There is zero reason to believe that they would act differently than any of the other spammers.

Now it is actually true that there was some more to the mail.  I honestly didn't see it because it was so well hidden.  Here it is.  This one from the "Your order has been received" spam mentioned above, but they are all the same (apart from, potentially, tracking codes buried in the URLs.)


The "authorize by and composed of Donald J. Trump for President, Inc." text has some interesting legal ramifications I'll bet.

You Trump apologists are at some point going to have to suck it up and recognize that the guy, and his whole tribe, are pond scum.  Hopefully before the troops he sent out to stick you with their [not a] vaccine.  If not, oh well.  You'll probably be OK anyway if you are of the right tribe.  If not, God help you!

Probably exactly the same thing going on regardless of party affiliation, right?

Going to assume that all of these emails have links to unsubscribe in them, even if they weren't fully copied over when  tvbcof posted the emails on here. Probably just pretty far down in the email to hide the fact that you actually can unsubscribe.

Here's some info on the Trump campaign selling your email and other info around for $$$$ -

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/06/email-list-for-sale-2020-candidates-are-paying/

and another

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-campaign-selling-email-and-phone-lists-for-millions-of-supporters/

I'd be angry if these e-mails come without a link to unsubscribe. Otherwise - meh. Spammers gonna spam but as long as you can unspam them - fair game. But how they obtained the e-mail address seems to be the more interesting part of the story. I'm guessing there was a fine print along with the OP's original donation that basically said "we can do whatever we want with your personal info, including using it to spam you indefinitely and giving it to other spammers".

Was just spitballing with Spendulus regarding what could be. Given the amount of spam that political campaigns send out, it would make sense that someone would take advantage of this.

But thats insane that they've sent that many emails in one day. That's literally 9 emails within 1 day period. Lord if that was on my personal email I'd be VERY angry.

Are you doing anything with the emails to show some sort of engagement? Maybe opening the email or clicking a link inside of it or something like that. I know that usually will continue the automated process of sending more emails.

Nope.  The very best way to paint this is that the Trumpsteins got hacked and lost my trump-only email addy.  Second best would be that they sold it.  Neither of these theories hold much water, though, because they have both DKIM and DMARC configured:


The rather obvious implication is that the Trump/Kushner clan are spammers of the lowest order...among other things that they are.

Just for the fun of it, here is my daily haul of spam from these maggots since the last report yesterday:



And here's the letter that 'Lara' sent me:

That's actually something that I hadn't thought of, especially regarding the fact that that would be a very quick way for these internet scammers to make a few bucks.

The people that are most likely going to donate to a political campaign, and especially the Trump campaign, are going to be people who are older and don't understand technology that well. If you can just make the 'sender' say DONALD J TRUMP or something along those lines, and make the landing page look legit off, you can steal a couple bucks from unsuspecting people who think they're giving to the President.

But don't forget that few people authenticate than an email actually came from where it says it did.

Their donations to Trump may benefit Egyptian teenagers.

Ugh, that's just such a scummy tactic that it's absolutely disgusting that this is being done. As you said before, for unsuspecting people this is what is going to lure them into looking at the email and then maybe throwing a few bucks at the campaign. Would love to know the internal data from the Trump campaign and RNC in seeing how effective this actually is.

"Please contribute $30 IMMEDIATELY to claim your FREE 2020 Keep America Great Hat. >>" -- I'm guessing this is the 'order' they're referring too. Because if you DONATE (PAY) then you get a FREE (YOU PAID) hat.

As I said before though, buying email lists and doing all this sort of email spamming is pretty common in political campaigns.

There was a donor list hack of the GOP back in 2016, and another in 2018 so it might not be the Trumpsteins per say.
That address might be in other lists by now that have then been bought / recycled back into their lists.

Remember, they are out trying to get donations, so they buy a list of known donators.
That list was populated by whoever, that person makes money by selling emails and such.
Where did they get their data from? Oh, look a list of 200,000 donors just sitting out there on some TOR site and I have seen the CSV version pop up on some torrent sites now and then.

It was also being passed around DefCon and some other tech / security conventions.

-Dave

I went back to actually look at the mail to make sure it was sent to my Trump-email-only address.  It was.  Below is the text.  It was pure bait-n-switch.  Nothing about 'my order' in the body whatsoever.  What utter slimeballs these people are!



Some of the lines above seemed to be URL's with unique tracking tokens and what-not.

"Your Order Will Ship Soon" ugh.... What in gods name was the content of this email? Pretty gross way of confusing regular people into thinking that they bought something from the campaign or from some random store.

I wouldn't say that this is just the Trump campaign doing this, or members of the GOP, I think that this is the norm for most campaigns and people in political positions trying to raise money. Especially on the scale of the President, where you need to raise hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm assuming that the RNC and DNC have to do the same sort of thing.

Not sure on if anyone else uses the "Your Order will Ship Soon" -- or something like this in terms of a very scammy tactic.

Here's an update from part way through today:


I especially like the 'Order Confirmation' one.  Classic trick against REALLY REALLY stupid people.

Trump and all his Israel First friends are just trying to suck every resource possible out of the U.S. and the American people before they pull the plug.  Even just a few shekles in contributions.  The Trump organization makes Rev. Jim Baker and the 'Love Gift' Christian evangelical scammers look like saints.  And they are targeting the same pathetic dopes which is fitting.

IIRC O'Rourke's money was preset in large part. But he also had some interesting and very spammy phone call solicitations, message traffic, yard and car stickers.

This was a big deal during the midterm elections when the senate had some competitive races. I remember Ted Cruz and Beto O'Rourke's race raised record setting numbers, iirc the total money raised during that race was the highest in a senate race ever. They did nothing but spam people's emails begging for money.

Spam is spam, whether it's "On your political (or whatever)" side or not.

If you doubt this, guess if you respond to it, what's the chance the money goes to Your Favorite instead of a Nigerian spammer?

10%?

I got the spam in my inbox again after looking at one of the Trump brothers mails [don't remember if it was Bevis or Butthead].

I promptly reported it as spam and categorized it for Google AI as 'just spam'.  Come to think of it I may have done that a while ago and that could be why Google is 'doing a brother a favor' by shit-canning the disgusting Drumpfstein spam for me.

Actually I did read a couple of these spams for the purposes of system analysis.  I must say that judging from the textural content of these spams, the 'bitter clingers' who still hold out any hope for Trump are truly the bottom-dwellers in American society with respect to apparent intellect.  Thankfully I don't live there any more so their existence is not my problem.  The ones on the Dem side are even worse.  It pains me to say it since it includes some of my most dear family, but 'it is what it is.'

So, drop a massive steamer in the one thing you've got left?  Genius!

Pretty sure all that spam will turn people off though. Alot of people who see it in their inbox will probably mark the sending address as a spammer too which will probably end up hurting them more then helping imo