Ebang Announces E9++, E10, and E10.1 - page 2.

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Quote from: CassiusV on January 09, 2018, 05:21:47 PM

Do you have a normal power source? How can your network support 20 miners at same time?

most newer single family homes in the US over 1200sqft are going to have 200amp service which is 48,000 watts, if your running 1600w miners that's about 30 miners, run 20 and you have plenty of power left over for your actual home. 200 amp service entrance is quite common.
YOu can request up to 400amp residential service with no special requirements needed on the homeowners part except of course a 400 amp service entrance. Also, you can have as many meters as you want (pending local codes, some urban municipalities ban this), lots of people have a separate service entrance for their house and say a barn/outbuilding, so you can have 400amps on your house and another 400amp service on your barn, no problem.

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Quote from: A.Delaney on January 07, 2018, 11:53:01 PM

Yes this was disappointing. At $4400 each it would take an $88,000 investment to get them. Unless your BTC rich. It’s not gonna happen. I’d like to try one. At 18Th/s you could still roi in 90 days. I’d take that over an S9 at the prices they sell for.

It sucks because I am setup for 20 miners at my house. That’s all I have power and plugs for. It sucks thinking about them roi in 90 days and the kind of monthly income that would come after that. I would have to borrow the 88k to buy them and then they would all have to work. Too risky. No can do, but dam I dream.

Do you have a normal power source? How can your network support 20 miners at same time?

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Quote from: HagssFIN on January 04, 2018, 04:03:59 PM

Quote from: Schpetan on January 04, 2018, 04:02:56 PM

So ebit is not selling small orders?

Nope, minimum order quantity 20 units. Undecided

Yes this was disappointing. At $4400 each it would take an $88,000 investment to get them. Unless your BTC rich. It’s not gonna happen. I’d like to try one. At 18Th/s you could still roi in 90 days. I’d take that over an S9 at the prices they sell for.

It sucks because I am setup for 20 miners at my house. That’s all I have power and plugs for. It sucks thinking about them roi in 90 days and the kind of monthly income that would come after that. I would have to borrow the 88k to buy them and then they would all have to work. Too risky. No can do, but dam I dream.

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Quote from: marra on January 03, 2018, 10:47:19 AM

I was there at the e10 presentation in HangZhou, China.

The chip was produced by Samsung, the design of it and the PCB by Ebang.

There were 4 teams of non Chinese people at the event, 3 from Russia and 1 from Serbia. Every team was a large account to Ebang.

When they announced pricing, everyone was kind of a stunt. Everyone came optimistic to buy a whole lot, like 1000 machines. On that day they offered e10 for $5500, and no one bought anything.

Next day they lowered the price to $4900, and I still think that no one bought anything.

First batch delivery is set to 20.1.2018

Machine is real, I have seen it working, but just a bit expensive.

Did you think it was weird that they and Canaan did their events at the same time? That obviously wasn't an accident, but I can't figure out which one was trying to steal the thunder. My guess is it was ebang messing with Canaan. They just seem way more.... Chinese.

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Quote from: Schpetan on January 04, 2018, 04:02:56 PM

So ebit is not selling small orders?

Nope, minimum order quantity 20 units. Undecided

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So ebit is not selling small orders?

dlezama

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Quote from: ?? on ??

No, not at all. I have been working in Semiconductor fabs for 20 years. But it depends on how they designed the chips. If you shrink the geometries inside a chip, you do save on power consumption and gain speed. This means you can also fit more transistors inside the same size packaged chip. So the question left is if Ebang/Samsung used the same amount of transistors to shrink the package size of the chips, or did they increase the amount of transistors inside each chip? It is also possible that they increased the clock speed (frequency) of the chips as well. Where smaller geometries produce less heat, you could increase the clock speed to obtain higher hash processing speeds. Either way, putting more chips on the board will require more wattage and so will increasing the clock speed.

Haha, that makes sense. If you read your previous msg you can see how it can be misinterpreted

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alexhjelm

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Its to expensive, would buy if it was 3000$ each like it should be.

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Quote from: dlezama on January 04, 2018, 01:47:45 AM

Quote from: sanmankrauss on January 04, 2018, 01:34:17 AM

FYI to all, there is a flash sale on ebang for E10 delivery around end of Jan for USD4300

At 1 pm Jan 4th, who knows what time zone. Min 20 units! And delivery is actually March 31st.

It is GMT+8 so its up for sale now. The MOQ is killer...

86.000 USD invest to unknow company miners that was made for testing purpose? No thanks...

(Btw. stock for this BATCH-0 shows 770pcs, just to note...)

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apparently, they are all sold out

gs777

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Anyone knows
how much delivery cost to Canada (Toronto) would be?
At least approximately for 20 units?

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Quote from: sanmankrauss on January 04, 2018, 01:34:17 AM

FYI to all, there is a flash sale on ebang for E10 delivery around end of Jan for USD4300

At 1 pm Jan 4th, who knows what time zone. Min 20 units! And delivery is actually March 31st.

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FYI to all, there is a flash sale on ebang for E10 delivery around end of Jan for USD4300

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Quote from: leowonderful on January 03, 2018, 06:23:08 PM

Quote from: cuteman on January 03, 2018, 06:16:50 PM

Quote from: leowonderful on January 03, 2018, 05:48:05 PM

Quote from: cuteman on January 03, 2018, 05:37:42 PM

What is power consumption?? They say: " power consumption ratio is 90W/T "

- what does "T" mean? "per Thash"? Is it 90W * 18Th = 1620W? Or just 90 Watt ?

T is Terahash. There's no way it would be simply 90W. W/T is a common way to express miner efficiency nowadays, sometimes preferred over W/GH in the product description for some miners. I still prefer good ol' W/GH over W/TH but that's just me.

so it is 1620 Watts , - why so much?? - nearly the same as S9. But 10nm should be much more efficient as 14nm, shouldn't it ?

No. A smaller node usually means less power consumption, but ultimately in the end a better-designed ASIC is what drives power consumption down. The best example of this that I can think of is the Pangolinminer/Whatsminer- it is made on 28nm but squeezed out still more juice out of the aging plaform. Just because the number is smaller does not mean the miner will be more efficient than a miner on a larger node. Also explains why not all 16nm chips are the same- Avalon is less efficient than Bitmain, etc.

Where the chips are smaller, they can fit more on the board. More chips = more hashing power, but it also means more power consumption.

You are kidding right?

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Quote from: maheswaran on December 24, 2017, 04:31:37 PM

Received reply from Ebit sales team. They need 100 units as minimum order Shocked

. We all need to stick together to break this monopoly. There is no fair trade happening with Chinese manufacturers.

someone should host a group buy

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Quote from: cuteman on January 03, 2018, 06:16:50 PM

Quote from: leowonderful on January 03, 2018, 05:48:05 PM

Quote from: cuteman on January 03, 2018, 05:37:42 PM

What is power consumption?? They say: " power consumption ratio is 90W/T "

- what does "T" mean? "per Thash"? Is it 90W * 18Th = 1620W? Or just 90 Watt ?

T is Terahash. There's no way it would be simply 90W. W/T is a common way to express miner efficiency nowadays, sometimes preferred over W/GH in the product description for some miners. I still prefer good ol' W/GH over W/TH but that's just me.

so it is 1620 Watts , - why so much?? - nearly the same as S9. But 10nm should be much more efficient as 14nm, shouldn't it ?

No. A smaller node usually means less power consumption, but ultimately in the end a better-designed ASIC is what drives power consumption down. The best example of this that I can think of is the Pangolinminer/Whatsminer- it is made on 28nm but squeezed out still more juice out of the aging plaform. Just because the number is smaller does not mean the miner will be more efficient than a miner on a larger node. Also explains why not all 16nm chips are the same- Avalon is less efficient than Bitmain, etc.

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Quote from: leowonderful on January 03, 2018, 05:48:05 PM

Quote from: cuteman on January 03, 2018, 05:37:42 PM

What is power consumption?? They say: " power consumption ratio is 90W/T "

- what does "T" mean? "per Thash"? Is it 90W * 18Th = 1620W? Or just 90 Watt ?

T is Terahash. There's no way it would be simply 90W. W/T is a common way to express miner efficiency nowadays, sometimes preferred over W/GH in the product description for some miners. I still prefer good ol' W/GH over W/TH but that's just me.

so it is 1620 Watts , - why so much?? - nearly the same as S9. But 10nm should be much more efficient as 14nm, shouldn't it ?

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Quote from: cryptominer11 on January 03, 2018, 04:19:46 PM

Weren't S9's on sale last night for 2400?

Yep, and gone. Bitmain just trying to control the market again.

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Quote from: cuteman on January 03, 2018, 05:37:42 PM

What is power consumption?? They say: " power consumption ratio is 90W/T "

- what does "T" mean? "per Thash"? Is it 90W * 18Th = 1620W? Or just 90 Watt ?

T is Terahash. There's no way it would be simply 90W. W/T is a common way to express miner efficiency nowadays, sometimes preferred over W/GH in the product description for some miners. I still prefer good ol' W/GH over W/TH but that's just me.

cuteman

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What is power consumption?? They say: " power consumption ratio is 90W/T "

- what does "T" mean? "per Thash"? Is it 90W * 18Th = 1620W? Or just 90 Watt ?

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