Topic: Economic Devastation - page 89. (Read 504776 times)

didnt know about that, thank you for your post,
wow didnt know about that, thank you for your post, but I think that drugs should be legal and  that could fix the problem

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TPTB

Yes of course the USG is importing drugs big time.  That is well known as well as well documented.  Still, The Big Rhino has not stamped out the competition...  Yet.  But, yes, I hear you.  .gov control is increasing constantly.  Still, those who prepare well (I hope I have/will) will come out the other side OK.  Probably...

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The more curious case of the Bush property in Paraguay is one that I have seen next to NOTHING on that since 2010 or so.  Not even in the hysterical Argentine press.  The two links you cited were from 2006 and 2010.  I have also seen the allegations that their property is next to a BIG Moonie ranch.

I looked for more info about a year ago on the Bush property in Paraguay and found zip.  In fact, I have seen NOTHING reliable (a link to a deed, a solid source, etc.) showing that the Bushes own ANYTHING like the 98,000 acres purportedly owned.  I just ran a Google search, and *yawn*, same old crap, nothing solid, just Bush-haters.

I do know WHY there would be interest: the world's largest fresh water aquifer.  Few people around.  And a local .gov easy to suborn.

And if they have the money, why not?  Paraguay is a great lil ol place to retire to (I've been there).

Were I rich enough (and wife willing, ahh..., not so much) I would love owning 20,000 acres in the eastern Chaco as long as there was a decent road connection.  The Eastern Chaco of Paraguay apparently is the CHEAPEST BIOMASS on the planet.  And lots of sun for off-the-grid power.

Not much social life though, LOL...

We are working bodies of 37 trillions cells working harmoniously. We are part of a global society of 6 billion human beings working as harmoniously as possible until now. Like it or not, you are part of it and you are not in control of it. Yet you act like the white cells are your enemies. It is so clear. You could be a major part of the nervous system of the human society but you prefer to act like a papilloma growing from it and then falling to infect others on the east!


You have never proved anything about this because you don't even know what reputation mean! I am sure none here would ever freely trade wealthy, and not tips, and share values, and not masks, with someone you know nothing nor answer to the same lord.

They will destroy themselves. No problem. Let them.

Those of us who are capable will side-step their system with a decentralized knowledge age.

This is evolution at work. Survival-of-the-fittest. The weak will cull themselves.

I already told you upthread that reputation is alive and well on pseudonyms along with personal anonymity. Have I not proved that? I have a reputation and I would still have one if I had never revealed my personal identity.

Enough of the redundant crap please.

I am waiting for CoinCube to come back and admit I am correct on all points.

CoinCube, did you knew this concept? http://wiki.darwinbots.com/w/Big_Bertha
All the simulation is quite entertaining.

TPTB, every evaluation is made down-top. There is no autonomous entity acting without down-top consent or alienation. Firms and political parties are alive and kicking because they allowed the system to scale-up in a way that your beloved higher entropy alone wouldn't. If the people of today consents with lowers degrees is because they can't drag out of it. This system allowed them born and multiply not any other that they know. If you produce any tool that allow this level of value to be maintained you can be sure as hell they will change their minds.


They were great solutions for a world defined by the lack of pen, paper and horsepower. If the environment changed this it doesn't mean we have to go all the way back to anarchical technological tribalism it only means that we have to review what were the problems solved by the last system, the problems we face now and think about new solutions.

With rep tracking, there is no need for the use of force; with instant communication, there is no need to oversimplify human evaluation; with broadly education, there is no need for permanent eunuch dinosaurs institutions aka “over commitment to egregious error”.

But again. If your solution, or any other, can't maintain the present levels of wealthy nor solve the previous problems human society already fought to scale-up you can be sure as hell they will do more of the same because it is what they can do without enough mind dragging power. MORE FORCE FOR MORE REPUTATION UNTIL WAR IS PEACE. MORE COMMODITIZATION RESTRICTIONS ON YOUR MONEY SUPPLY AND PROPRIETY UNTIL YOU DO NOT HAVE CHOICES. MORE REPRESENTATION UNTIL FREE SPEECH IS FINALLY OUTLAWED AND EVERY HUMAN BEING IS PERMANENTLY ON NARCOTICS(OR EVEN WORSE SOLUTIONS).

We need to go up on this discussion. Far above the passions for control and alienation of the present system. Then clean ourselves of the scars left by it, like your fear of losing control that serves only the masked hidden on you, running away from the light as deep as it can, boiling your roots and burning your leaves. (D3 helping you out, why?). After cleanse we build the intellectual solution and then produce drag power sufficiently to stop the “over commitment to egregious error”. This is how I think.

You have a lot of learning to do.

The entire point of me mentioning the War on Drugs is that these are lies pitched to us by the drug runners who run our governments. You do know the CIA is shipping drugs from Central America into the USA?

https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=oliver+north+CIA+drug+running

https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=Gary+Webb+CIA+drug+running

It was never designed to be won. It was a lie to fool the idiot masses. Thus it has been a massive propaganda success.

Do you know the POTUS Bush family have purchased large tracts of land in Paraguay and have set up a US military base there?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/oct/23/mainsection.tomphillips

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8888-I-Now-KNOW-WHY-the-Bush-Family-bought-100-000-Acres-in-Paraguay-

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TPTB_n_w

I am about as diversified as I can be given our circumstances.

I hear you re .gov wanting a crackdown, and The Big Rhino has lots of power...  But, a small thing that gives me some comfort is that the "War on Drugs" has not been won.

As you point out (and know better than I), there is risk everywhere.  Maybe we should buy a condo here in Lima like I have been thinking as a part of "Plan B".

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Were I a great programmer, I would have written up a great new crypto-cryptocurrency in the last week or two...



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Although others may be offended, I like your occasional references to the Bible.  Indeed, once your soul is saved, all else is very secondary.  I have been on the Trail as a Junior Spiritual Practioner after decades of neglect.

I still plan to HODL my gold for the benefit of our kid and any grandchildren we may be fortunate to have in the future.

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And you have that right re your health!  Worth more than gold...

I still think you have a blind spot regarding the internal entropic state of the agents, you cannot conveniently disregard it,

I ll be back with a model, for now http://xkcd.com/386/   

Btw the clique has the upper bound on network utility, how can it be otherwise it is maximally connected!!!!

Ditto.


They incorporate more dimensions of data than near-term TA.


The problem is the powers-that-be will shut off our means to exchange our gold for assets and money. They can track our activity on Bitcoin, they are eliminating cash, and they will tighten scrutiny of real estate ownership and transactions.

Do you think this is a joke? We are in a 309 year peaking cycle of collectivism.

So you will be stuck with all this gold that you can't do a damn thing with, unless you declare it then have it confiscated and taxed to hell. They will paint goldbugs as terrorists. Your gold will be confiscated because it was "involved in drug trade or other illicit activity" and they won't need to prove. The police will just seize it because the government won't be able to pay their salaries.

I don't think being in Peru will protect you from that. Maybe but the USA is well aware and planning probably to turn uncooperative States into war zones to complete the looting. Also South Americans are very socialist. Do you really think Martha the Peruvian mother chicken vendor is going to trade you chicken for gold coins or instead cheer the government of Peru hunting down "tax cheats" who are "causing the bad economy".

We are heading into a tempest.

You should only be stacking things normal people will trade you for and only in quantities that you can reasonably barter. So recognizeable gold coins(, and some 1/10 or 1/5 oz coins too but are you really going to risk trading these with sting operations and muggers lurking?).

You best hope is someone creates an anonymous black market where you can still trade your gold for untraceable electronic digits back and forth. But then meetups for physical gold will be busted with sting operations. BurtW was busted by a string.

There is a reason the Bible says they will throw their gold and silver into the streets. This is the 666 era and the end of blackmarkets.

I am hoping we can avert that with technological innovation, but I tell you other than unverified, vaporware Skycoin and perhaps myself, afaik I don't think anyone seriously capable is really doing anything. Monero et al are sort of half-baked and they haven't finished the job of what needs to be done.

I am not extremely optimistic (yet also not giving up and not pessimistic) but hope to dig back into crypto-currency programming soon...

P.S. my health is dramatically improving! I feel all my facilities and acumen returning.

if you think it is inapplicable that means you deny mutation in your agents no? then all your agents converge to a local optima (monoculture) so their numbers do not increase entropy.

You fools need to start taking me seriously!

China has entered its waterfall collapse (to bottom by 2020 before the West will).

http://socialblessing.com/chinas-rapid-economic-slowdown-is-probably-even-worse-than-the-government-will-admit/

Expert JCapital’s Anne Stevenson-Yang (shocking!!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2SStFt-k_A (skip to 3 min point in the video)



http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/19/fractional-banking-china/



Extra reading:

http://blog.mpettis.com/2014/12/how-might-a-china-slowdown-affect-the-world/

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2015/04/us-growing-faster-china/

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2014/11/how-jobs-will-queer-chinese-rebalancing/

even with a multitude agents if they do not seek to diversify aka mutate (coincube argument) you still have the entropy of one, numbers do not protect you from monoculture. And if we see the current merits of the silicon valley this is what one observes monoculture.  

as to networks
a clique has max network effect but 0 entropy

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aminorex

I have no confidence in technical analysis.  I buy gold and never let it go.  Re BTC, I only spend it on Au and twice on platinum.

But I am beginning to warm to Armstrong´s cycles ideas.  Thanks mucho to TPTB_n_w (and earlier aka´s...).

Also re Au and BTC, hey I just buy when I have extra $.  Especially Au.  I don´t even really care about the price of gold, I just stack it.

I may be very near to the amount of BTC I want to HODL.  Should I spend BTC on gold, then I typically approximiately replace the BTC I spent.

Over the long-term, fitness is the only way to maximize "progress" (a.k.a. "growth").

It doesn't matter if you like it or not, nature's free market will steamroll any attempts to control or order (i.e. top-down control) it.


Simpleton minds think degrees-of-freedom only applies to 3D spacial movement.

Degrees-of-freedom applies to all possible events, including the freedom to think, live long, etc..


Cripes you are still ignorant of the salient point of the opening post of this thread— that the Industrial Age required economies-of-scale because of the high fixed capital component of production (e.g. factories) whereas the Knowledge Age scales decentralized because the most significant cost of production is now the individual's knowledge.

Network effects provide the symbiosis scaling in the Knowledge Age, e.g. someone writes some open source which gains enough following and maturity that I can reuse it in a project I am doing and then my open source project gains enough following and maturity that others can reuse...

...The untapped entropy in Reed's law is astronomical.


Nonsense. If I don't reply to your nonsense again, let this post serve as a hint as to why I am ignoring you.


You don't make any sense because CoinCube's argument is that too much mutation can be unstable, but CoinCube's strawman is inapplicable as I explained.


Hey mathematical idiot, go study Reed's law of exponential scaling of network utility. A clique can't scale exponentially dimwit. What dimwit would think a single monoculture (clique) could scale exponentially to be maximally connected to all humans on earth. 

I will not feed him by replying further to his off-topic nonsense. He can't seem to grasp that I wasn't writing about monoculture nor any of his nonsense thinking. As if the Silicon Valley reflects the culture of the entire world, or the future global Knowledge Age.  

For example, the Hoverbike wasn't Kickstarted in the Silicon Valley.

I would agree if fitness is the only requirement.
but it is not there is also the requirement of efficiency, and for that the only path is growth.
Shrimps have more deggrees of freedom but that will not help them when the whale scoops them.
shrimps have greater degree of freedom but but whales outlive them by far.
Your assumption is that the agents are immutable, but they are not, they have a production cycle, that accumulates entropy within, and lead to death of the agent, the number of cycles an agent can undergo is fixed therefore efficiency in the cycle is paramount to longevity (ie in biological systems the number of heartbeats is fixed, from a single cell -in vitro- up to the whale). That efficiency can only be achieved with growth and scaling up, which of course limits degrees of freedom and can cause extinction events.

So in the end do you accept that agents are systems that are threatened by internal entropy accumulation or not?

of course you cannot because those agents are made of people and there is no entropy insulator to protect agents by the intra and inter peoples entropy.

So agents in the end are living systems, and
1 atomicaly they die so in order to achieve survival of the solution they need to propagate somehow, so mutation comes into play and coincubes argument holds
2 growth and therefore limit in DofF is needed to cope to the internal entropy accumulation, unless of course you can show another way

So for all purposes either by collectivation or by atomic growth a limit in Degrees of freedom cannot be escaped for living systems

My monkey actually agrees with you.  I am reluctant to commit to a short, despite his lengthy history of being the only monkey left standing; nevertheless, the monkey has kept me from holding base position with positive delta in either Au or BTC for quite some time now.  (In general I use a leverage-space trading model, in which my base position delta factor reflects secular trend assessment.)

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+ a friggin billion, coinits

George Soros has much to answer for despite being a smart trader.  He has a very serious ethics problem, with a lack of of empathy (despite some "words"), I believe they would call him a sociopath.

I winder what other filthy skeletons he has in his closet.

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Men are typically measured, we hope anyway, by their actions not their words.

I refuse to read anything from that fucking piece of shit. He is a traitor to Jews because he worked for the fucking Nazis. Fuck George Soros and his Libtard Commie Agenda. He is a blight on humanity.

well if you read the george soros crises of global capitalism you can figure out the failures in the ideas of peoples economies its tha failabilaty of ideas of long term that makes the economics beeng so diff to understand and finance of countries the bit coin does not changes that even can be a bit more instable by the lack of corrections on the coin value but i mean the economy of countries and global capitalism also dependes on the east that its very degrading ideas on gathering money form low quality products not good copied form indusrtry like japan , ( japan may fail sometimes but the scar tissue created after 2second world war makes them the most relaible idea of capitalism and porsper like usa and eurpoe conected