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China blocks facebook, twitter and other social media networks. And only allows their citizen to look at state controlled media. But as far as I know people can still use facebook and other social media platforms using VPN. So the Russian citizens I am sure are doing the same. Using a VPN to access facebook and the media. So they still can communicate with their "loved ones". As for sending money/remittance, they can use bitcoin. Would take only few seconds.
Yes, indeed now the Russian people are helping VPNs a lot, but if everyone uses it, sooner or later they will understand this and take up VPN services, it will be difficult, but not impossible, to ban them. The biggest blow to ordinary citizens was the Instagram ban, it was the most popular network among citizens, now small businesses have come under distribution, because they took their main customers from Instagram. The next blow will be blocking YouTube, this will greatly affect Russia, because normal analogues simply do not exist. Normal unhindered access will be lost, people will be forced to use VPNs, no one knows how long this will last. It is unfortunate that only small businesses and ordinary citizens suffer from this.
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When the war is of course the government must fully control all information, social media of course gives freedom to anyone to write news so that the russian government banned social media, for the short term of course this is very detrimental because on the other hand social media is good but I'm sure when conditions are normal the Russian government immediately reopened access to social media.
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My sympathy goes to innocent people who are suffering especially to those who can't contact their families in Russia but I believe that they could still find an alternative way.

Email?  Cheesy Most Russians don't use Facebook or Twitter anyway, but the Russian alternatives like Vk.com or Mail.ru. They are certainly not cut off from the outside world. The complete economic impact for Facebook and Twitter etc. is rather marginal, as Russia is rather a small market with few inhabitants with purchasing power (apart from the few oligarchs and families).
Well I think that these things in RUSSIA at least for the general population that is very used if it has some impact, although there is a Russian social network called VK that is very popular, however I am not sure if everyone is already using VPN for skipping all those prohibitions, I think that the Russians have already taken their precautions to avoid being left isolated, we cannot suffocate a people so much when its ruler has all the freedoms, the fact that they block everything, this will make their citizens collapse and although they are not suffering loss of life as in the Ukraine, the level of stress is unique to them.
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My sympathy goes to innocent people who are suffering especially to those who can't contact their families in Russia but I believe that they could still find an alternative way.

Email?  Cheesy Most Russians don't use Facebook or Twitter anyway, but the Russian alternatives like Vk.com or Mail.ru. They are certainly not cut off from the outside world. The complete economic impact for Facebook and Twitter etc. is rather marginal, as Russia is rather a small market with few inhabitants with purchasing power (apart from the few oligarchs and families).
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In the short term, of course, it will have no effect, but in the long term, there will be a lot of economic impact because most e-commerce in Russia also relies heavily on Twitter and Facebook to help marketing.
Even in short term, you can already see the negative effect, just imagine, a multimillion-dollar online business is down for at least one day, they lose a ton of money if that will happen, so this action kills their industry and that's the sacrifice they have to take for starting this war.
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This decision alone in blocking social media sites would make the economy go even worse in my opinion!

I don’t know what would be your opinion about this guys. It pains me to be honest, as I’ve already felt what they’re feeling right now in getting isolated from the world.
I am not sure how blocking of social media will make an impact on the Russian economy. The reason for the blockage might be that all the propaganda and the information can be shared easily with these social media platforms and they wanted to curb that freedom during the time of a war. The fact is we can overcome this blockage with proxies and VPN and now a days everyone uses them to overcome these restrictions.
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Puttin has had it figured it before the invasion of Ukraine took place. Puttin plans to protect his sovereignty based on the severe sanctions given to them by taking Russia's fate into his hand. Not by being at the mercy and controlled by others.

Russia is aiming to build its internet, social media platforms, technology industry and its own e-commerce companies. Just the way China did theirs. China's are the main allies of Russians
Yes, I agree with you, for me Russia has the potential to do it, the Russians cannot be underestimated, if I know anything about the Russians it is that they are very intelligent beings and that they handle privileged and high-level information, then since there is infrastructure and knowledge, only an ally like China would raise it in less than 1 quarter, I think that social networks are a means where the Russians will be able to live without them, and without the need to monetize them, they will look for a way, the bad thing is that they are giving them the tools Russia to be even stronger, when all this conflict is over, Russia will not only have the experience of all those who are capable of turning their backs on it, but will also have the ability to prevent the same thing from happening to them in another attempt, so I don't know what it is better if they continue with the sanctions or that they eventually surrender and stop the deaths and that Russia take control so that the innocent do not continue to die unjustly, and those children who are not to blame for what is happening ndo, but they are the ones who suffer the most, the truth is I don't know what is better at the moment.
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Well, taking a closer step in looking into the Russian invassion on Ukraine and the implications that we are currently seeing part of, Putin had an intention before the engagement of this war which is best known to him and also design an alternative as an escape route should in case things doesn't work as expected, that's why you see him being muted when asked if he has intention of invading Ukraine.

Secondly from my own perspective, i see Russia maybe trying to emulate what China did by blocking all international service providers and their satellites in China thereby building its own from within, using their own Chinese google and internet and all other social and economical services both online and in physical as within China such as vehicles, phones, home appliances etc. All were China home made and their official language is Chinese. Possibly this may be one of Putin reasons to stir up war, got disconnected from the SWIFT service providers and later come up with it own system from within and this will help them maintain more privacy and i think that's why they wanted to first conquer Ukraine which may be use as an entry point by EU, US or any other foreign country.

From my point of view Russia can never emulate what china did and they know it. First of all there is a big difference between China's and Russia's human recourses. Second reason is technologies. the reason why Russia stir up the war is that they can't give up because of domestic politics(incoming elections.) they always try to make something on the geopolitical level to have a success on the domestic level. Another reason is that Ukraine is very important for Russia to control part of the Europe(making buffers).



btw. He Putin can arrest 100 or 2000 people, but can he arrest 2 or 5 million people?

Of course, he can't, but the problem is that not even 1% of Russians are protesting against the war, which means that 99% support him or are afraid to take to the streets and show what they think of their president. The fear is logical if we know that underage children ended up behind bars just because they had anti-war banners.

I believe that for the benefit of Ukraine, but also other non-NATO countries (Sweden, Finland, Moldova) that may be hit next, sanctions must be even tougher and uncompromising - people must rebel en masse against the current regime and this is the only way to stop the war.

Now I'm watching social survey in the streets and people say that they don't want to make any comment about this political environment because of fear. Conclusion: Some people won't raise their voice unless the regime does not hurt you personally and sometimes I understand this situation, they have daughters, mothers and etc...
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My sympathy goes to innocent people who are suffering especially to those who can't contact their families in Russia but I believe that they could still find an alternative way. I guess it isn't the worst scenario to cry for but those who are losing their loved ones because of the war. Children and innocent people are dying. The main goal of others is just to survive and live during this war. Yes, the blocking and banning might affect the economy in the coming days but it's a matter of life and death for innocent lives.
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I would guess that just like China did it, they will be able to get some sort of "Russian version" of all of these and just cater to Russian citizens. They will of course always want to deal with rest of the world, but at the very least they could connect all of Russia together somehow and that means something.

If there is like some marketplace where everyone uses, such as amazon, but a Russian version, and it can get enough traction, that would be great (maybe there is one) and if there is a facebook, or twitter, or whatever social media then that would be great too. I would still assume that getting all of the world out of their network doesn't make sense, like China is cool enough with them right?
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In the short term, of course, it will have no effect, but in the long term, there will be a lot of economic impact because most e-commerce in Russia also relies heavily on Twitter and Facebook to help marketing.
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If they are banning Facebook, then they are definitely banning WhatsApp, Instagram, and Messenger as well since these apps are owned by the same Facebook (Meta). But, did they state why they decided to ban these social media platforms in their country? Or did they ban it because they didn’t want citizens in the country going on a full rampage on these platforms to criticize the government?

But, it is very bad for a government to do such a thing and prevent people from having access to information and being able to connect with the world. The actions that they have taken is in no way going to be helping them, because things will just keep getting worse, and it’s just very bad.
I am pretty sure that it was both. I mean surely sanctioning against these companies means that they could send a message to the world saying if the companies there are getting off of Russia and not sell products there, then they could also ban companies as well and not allow them to work in Russia.

However, at the same time it is focused on social media, they could have done it with clothing companies and all of that, Burger King decided not to leave for example, they could have been kicked off, but it was social media, why? And that part is because of citizens, if citizens can write whatever they want here, then it would be danger bells for Russian oligarchs and Putin, so they went with facebook and twitter and so forth.
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Now this is getting worse, especially for the ordinary and innocent Russian citizens who are already suffering economic problems! They don’t deserve this to be honest, just like what China did to their citizens!

Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-blocks-facebook-twitter/

A huge blow for the citizens, foreigners and overseas workers who worked there using FB and Twitter as their main source of communication to the rest of the world. As the economy continues to collapse in Russia due to the ongoing conflict between Putin’s government and Ukraine. Not sure if they are also banning Messenger, Whatsapp and Instagram since it’s part of Meta.

I have amazing crypto friends from Russia, and I even met some of them in person before the pandemic began. Now it means that they are going to use VPN in order to access Facebook and Twitter. I just feel bad and sorry for them. I don’t know what is going on with the Russian media regulator’s head right now. Maybe he was ordered by Putin or so.

There are also Filipinos who are working there as OFWs in Russia. Not only that they are struggling to send remittances to their families because of the stiff sanctions made by the West (especially taking off SWIFT), they are going to find it difficult to communicate to their loved ones and friends.

This decision alone in blocking social media sites would make the economy go even worse in my opinion!

I don’t know what would be your opinion about this guys. It pains me to be honest, as I’ve already felt what they’re feeling right now in getting isolated from the world.


"Now this is getting worse, especially for the ordinary and innocent Russian citizens who are already suffering economic problems!" - there are no ordinary innocent citizens of Russia. They are as guilty as the people of Germany who voted for Hitler and his party. They voted for Putin's party, they supported his decisions, they still support mass terrorism and the killing of civilians in Ukraine. I am a citizen of Ukraine, I know what I'm talking about.

And all the blocking of Internet resources was started by RUSSIA ITSELF 5 years ago !!! They blocked access to free media, they forced to provide access to instant messengers FOR ILLEGAL eavesdropping of people, and persecution. And now you're out of regret? This is all a consequence of the implementation of the new regime of fascism, which is being developed by Putin and his gang of global kleptomaniac terrorists....

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If they are banning Facebook, then they are definitely banning WhatsApp, Instagram, and Messenger as well since these apps are owned by the same Facebook (Meta). But, did they state why they decided to ban these social media platforms in their country? Or did they ban it because they didn’t want citizens in the country going on a full rampage on these platforms to criticize the government?

But, it is very bad for a government to do such a thing and prevent people from having access to information and being able to connect with the world. The actions that they have taken is in no way going to be helping them, because things will just keep getting worse, and it’s just very bad.
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Let's not forget that Social media are also being used as a Propaganda tool by some Russian people and they are trying to justify this war. I have seen some Russian people celebrating the invasion and also mocking Ukrainian people on social media.

The story says the social media ban is by Russia itself and not the EU or any international community blocking them. You think if the Russians celebrate and mock Ukrainian people on social media will not be to their advantage? The reason for Putin putting a social media ban on his country is because he knows that, America and the EU will eventually ban Russia. It will happen.
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What is worst?

1. Getting your house blown up by the Russian army and losing all your earthly belongings or even worst...one of your family members!

or

2. Losing access to your Social media account, because your government wanted to invade another country?

Let's not forget that Social media are also being used as a Propaganda tool by some Russian people and they are trying to justify this war. I have seen some Russian people celebrating the invasion and also mocking Ukrainian people on social media.

There are always two sides to a story..... and unfortunately sanctions are one of the effective tools to stop aggressors from continuing their actions or even funding it with these tools.  Roll Eyes (Example - International money transfers though SWIFT to receive payment for Oil and Gas)
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Secondly from my own perspective, i see Russia maybe trying to emulate what China did by blocking all international service providers and their satellites in China thereby building its own from within, using their own Chinese google and internet and all other social and economical services both online and in physical as within China such as vehicles, phones, home appliances etc. All were China home made and their official language is Chinese. Possibly this may be one of Putin reasons to stir up war, got disconnected from the SWIFT service providers and later come up with it own system from within and this will help them maintain more privacy and i think that's why they wanted to first conquer Ukraine which may be use as an entry point by EU, US or any other foreign country.

But China did not start a war to achieve all that. Russia under Putin is power drunk and does not care whatever happens to anyone for him to achieve whatever his mind is chasing. He should have banned his citizens from using social media and created his own applications without getting into war. Putin will end up destroying himself like Hitler. Maybe somebody in his cabinet will shoot the idiot in the face soon and end all this.
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This decision alone in blocking social media sites would make the economy go even worse in my opinion!

I don’t know what would be your opinion about this guys. It pains me to be honest, as I’ve already felt what they’re feeling right now in getting isolated from the world.


I fully agree with, blocking access to social media is wrong and hurts the average citizen. Unfortunately this is part of the whole new censorship strategy in Russia. Its not only social media, but also the big news companies and radio stations that are getting censored. Many journalist had to leave Russia because of the new law, that threatened to imprison journalist for up to 15 years.
If using social media for work, things are even more terrible. I don't think that the average person in Russia losing his job is going to make Putin change his mind. From Russia I only knew a few people and they told me that they are using Telegram more than the Meta Services, also tiktok seems more popular than Instagram. Maybe people can switch to other services instead. Blocking and censoring Internet access in China and Russia both is wrong, and I hope that people can use VPNs without getting into trouble.
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Puttin has had it figured it before the invasion of Ukraine took place. Puttin plans to protect his sovereignty based on the severe sanctions given to them by taking Russia's fate into his hand. Not by being at the mercy and controlled by others.

Russia is aiming to build its internet, social media platforms, technology industry and its own e-commerce companies. Just the way China did theirs. China's are the main allies of Russians
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 Websites can't be banned in this day and age and that has to be a lesson for everyone. I mean our government tried to ban some places as well, but they failed miserably, because we all just used VPN and moved on. Even today there are some websites that are blocked, and we are still using it without a problem. So all in all there is absolutely no way to keep Russian people from using any of these websites, there is no way to keep anyone away from these websites, they will just use VPN and still reach it. Which goes to show you that, all these sanctions could be waltz around and find a better method, and not keep anyone in russia, stay away from rest of the world.
The Websites cannot be banned if we use a VPN service. But what worries Russians most is the rumor that Russia will completely shut down the global internet on March 11, 2022. In March 2019, Russia ran a test of Private Internet, which will disconnect from the rest of the world but keep the Internet working for its citizens. The same way North Korea is doing with its own country. This is really terrible for citizens living in Russia.

This isn't terrible, because they themselves trying to isolate and test. If I'm not wrong every first world country will have this prepared and tested. Only Russia and North Korea revealed it to the world. Before making such tests countries need to analyse whether they can self fulfill their needs without foreign investment and imports. Each and every country have some form of dependence over the other.
Each and every country is dependent on each other because at some point we all need it and if the Russian could disconnect from the rest of the world but keep the Internet working for its citizens have you guys thought about the long span they can keep the internet working?
Having said that, I think we need a political solution cause the masses should be the ones paying for some people's political ambition.
I watch a video of a Russian soldier which was rescue, cloth and fed by the Ukrainian. Honestly, this need to be stop.
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