Topic: Economic effects after Russia blocks Facebook, Twitter, etc.! - page 2. (Read 529 times)

I agree that banning some social networks will not have any effect on anyone's economy, there are always some alternatives! Maybe on an individual level, this situation affects some people, some people have been making money on some platforms and now they will not be able to do it, but they will also manage to find alternatives somehow!
However, we are talking about social networks, we can live without them! And at the moment because of the strong propaganda on both sides, and that isn't very interesting, too many lies and deceptions, so it's better to move away from them for mental health if nothing else!

The Russian government blocking Facebook and other social media is not a very important thing to worry about.  This is not a basic human need that if they do not play social media then they will die.  So whatever it is and whatever the reason, this is only a little disturbing for the user's comfort but psychologically they will immediately switch to applications that are still allowed.  Humans have a basic nature that is easy to change according to their needs and desires.  Moreover, this condition is a retaliation for the prohibition measures taken by Europe and the US on Russia.

You're right. I had to laugh for a long time when I read that the only joy for the elderly in Russia is Facebook and Twitter. What can be in a person's head when he had this thought?
I just want to say that there are many sites and social networks where people in Russia can communicate among themselves. Moreover, someone is worried about WhatsApp turning off, but again, the relatives of Russian people living abroad are not stupid people. They will easily switch to social networks that are available in Russia.
The whole problem is not worth the trouble.

This isn't terrible, because they themselves trying to isolate and test. If I'm not wrong every first world country will have this prepared and tested. Only Russia and North Korea revealed it to the world. Before making such tests countries need to analyse whether they can self fulfill their needs without foreign investment and imports. Each and every country have some form of dependence over the other.

The Websites cannot be banned if we use a VPN service. But what worries Russians most is the rumor that Russia will completely shut down the global internet on March 11, 2022. In March 2019, Russia ran a test of Private Internet, which will disconnect from the rest of the world but keep the Internet working for its citizens. The same way North Korea is doing with its own country. This is really terrible for citizens living in Russia.

Apart from these platforms tiktok have stopped its services in Russia. More sanctions keeps counting. Russia needs to make some fast moves against the sanctions if not the sufferers will be the citizens and not Putin. He has got good wealth to enjoy his lifetime. Anyhow the good thing, in war people are helping each other in some way. This time much seen with the polish, Hungarian, slovakian people.

How do you know if their citizens (young and old) are actually using the western apps facebook or twitter and not their own VK or other regional social media apps?

According to this blog written in 2020, VK is ranked first with 97 million active users (most popular among youngsters aged 18-34). OK.ru, which is said to be popular among older gens, comes in second with 71 million users. Facebook and Twitter are 4th and 6th respectively.

Upwork and a few other freelance platforms announced today that they will ban Russians. So banning of Facebook is gonna be one of the last problems for Russian workers. If sanctions will keep mounting, Russia will be as isolated as Iran and NK, so fleeing will be the only hope for ordinary Russians to experience the pre-war life.

I'm worried about the older citizens that are not used to technologies because they are the ones that will be affected, we know that older people love to use social media nowadays especially facebook but if this one thing that makes them happy will get banned, what are they going to do now? their lives are going to be boring.

Let's hope there are youngsters that are going to be concerned with them and help them set up a VPN so that they can continue their access on the social media sites. Nice to know that there are people that are also concerned about Russia, I thought all the people now are collecting donations to help the Ukrainians I was wrong with this.

 Websites can't be banned in this day and age and that has to be a lesson for everyone. I mean our government tried to ban some places as well, but they failed miserably, because we all just used VPN and moved on. Even today there are some websites that are blocked, and we are still using it without a problem. So all in all there is absolutely no way to keep Russian people from using any of these websites, there is no way to keep anyone away from these websites, they will just use VPN and still reach it. Which goes to show you that, all these sanctions could be waltz around and find a better method, and not keep anyone in russia, stay away from rest of the world.

shut themselves off from products (social media) that come from outside Russia, it seems that Russia and China already have the same thoughts...

Those who live in Russia and have relatives and friends who are outside Russia will find it very difficult to maintain communication. Currently the majority of Russian citizens use Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, the communist government has a very strict attitude towards their citizens and it will be very difficult for Russian citizens to be able to object to their government, the best way for Russian citizens is to use VPN.

The decision of the Russian government to block Facebook services in that country is increasingly making it difficult for Russian citizens to interact with the outside world now, the reason for the Russian government may be quite reasonable in my opinion, because so far Facebook continues to discriminate against Russian media in reporting what actually happened, in other words Facebook and Twitter has made a Putin leadership a fear in the eyes of today world.
But I'm quite curious whether Russia only blocks Facebook or they will also do the same to WhatsApp and Instagram?
Because as far as I know WhatsApp and Instagram are social media which are also under meta companies.

Of course, he can't, but the problem is that not even 1% of Russians are protesting against the war, which means that 99% support him or are afraid to take to the streets and show what they think of their president. The fear is logical if we know that underage children ended up behind bars just because they had anti-war banners.

I believe that for the benefit of Ukraine, but also other non-NATO countries (Sweden, Finland, Moldova) that may be hit next, sanctions must be even tougher and uncompromising - people must rebel en masse against the current regime and this is the only way to stop the war.

How do you know all this? Russians in your understanding are born who do not know how to use the Internet, drink vodka, and do not know about the state of affairs? Which one of you is in the greater illusion? Who is brainwashing with such nonsense?

The Russian government had no choice but to shut down social networks since these two networks spread lies. And to get real news, Russia has sources, in addition to Facebook and Twitter, where the normal and correct information is available.
I am not a Russian, but I watch the news, both English and Russian, and I want to see those who, after the completion of all the events, will express really competent conclusions.

The problem is not accessibility, but from an economic perspective where Russians usually do business. The blocking of social media only wants to limit western news which they think is a lot to corner Russia. On the other hand, these platforms also have advertising services that (probably) use global payment methods which are currently being discontinued in that country. So that it can be said, the use of a VPN does not mean anything for business people who usually use Facebook or Twitter ads.

Economically, it's not going to hurt either Russia or these Silicon Valley companies. Losing Russia isn't probably not a big deal for the Tech Giants, they probably earn more elsewhere.

Socially though, this is a disaster for the Russian people. They've been effectively censored and also now have to rely on state-owned media for their updates.

Exact, there are some campaings which collect money to give Russian the possiblity to buy VPN plans in order to be able to read source other than the Russian propaganda. I think young Russians who are very familiar with technology already managed to get VPN or TOR access.

I am just reading the reactions of some people from Russia who have been affected by this part of the sanctions. One of them complains PayPal is stopped the Twitch network also, its main source of income is closed. He can't use VPN for PayPal, it doesn't help him at all.
What he can change overnight to secure his existence, especially in current conditions which are very limited.

btw. He ^Putin can arrest 100 or 2000 people, but can he arrest 2 or 5 million people?

I did not read the whole content of the article, but with this news I guess some of the people in Russian that has been suffocated by the economic sanctions have been fighting against their own government.
That's the reason why Russia blocked the mainstream social media to avoid the spread of the news coming around from Russia.
This is typically a Chinese type of move.
This war will only cause death and chaos to the innocent lives in Ukraine, and a livelihood suffering from the Russian people and for the overseas  workers that's based in Russia.

Is it really unclear why Facebook and Twitter are blocked in Russia? Over the past eight years of Russia’s hybrid war against Ukraine, the people of Russia have been deliberately zombified by the Putin regime about the presence of some kind of fascists and nationalists in Ukraine, so more than half of the Russian population supported Putin’s aggression and lauded the seizure of Ukrainian territory.

But in 11 days of a full-scale war in Ukraine, Russia's losses are so significant that Putin decided to close social networks for them to prevent information about the losses from spreading. So, today, according to the official data of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, the losses of the Russian Federation in Ukraine are:
- more than 11,000 killed,
- 290 destroyed tanks,
- 999 armored vehicles,
- 46 aircraft,
- 68 helicopters,
- 117 artillery systems,
- 50 salvo fire systems,
- 23 air defense systems,
- 454 different vehicles,
- 3 warships, etc.

But is the population of Russia so innocent? These are innocent women and children who are now massively dying in Ukraine under rocket and bomb attacks by Russian soldiers, that is, someone's husbands, sons and fathers of this innocent population of Russia. This is only a small part of what awaits the Russians in the near future. You have to pay for everything, and for the criminal inaction of the people as well.