They are small workers, they can hardly find the money for their food so how come they can start their own brand? Let's say even if they start their own brand, they can't easily make that business big compare to the company where they are working. It will be hard for them to export their products so they can only sell their products locally. But my concern is, would there be enough customers that will use bitcoin as payment.
Today, even though it has its own brands, marketing will also be difficult. The economy has worsened and many work rights have been dismissed sooner. So consumers will be reduced and their branded goods will not be sold easily. The capital needed is also quite a lot. Lack of skills makes small workers lose the opportunity to look for income in other occupations. What they hope for is assistance from the government as well as solutions for their survival. 
Topic: Economic situation declining and famous celebs not paying workers - page 3. (Read 816 times)
July 20, 2020, 05:48:27 PM
July 20, 2020, 04:21:55 PM
That is the problem, if you are actually not making money, that doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither.
If you are a business or a celeb or basically anyone who are paying someone, just because you are not making profit doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither. By that logic when pandemic is not around, like lets say before pandemic started, any company who doesn't make a profit didn't have to pay neither. That is not what happened back in the day, so why should it happen now just because pandemic?
If you can't pay to people you should not be a business or a celeb that hires workers at all, you have to pay not only when you earn but when you do not earn as well, that is what hiring people entails when you hire them. It is not whenever you want to or whenever you can pay, it means every day.
If you are a business or a celeb or basically anyone who are paying someone, just because you are not making profit doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither. By that logic when pandemic is not around, like lets say before pandemic started, any company who doesn't make a profit didn't have to pay neither. That is not what happened back in the day, so why should it happen now just because pandemic?
If you can't pay to people you should not be a business or a celeb that hires workers at all, you have to pay not only when you earn but when you do not earn as well, that is what hiring people entails when you hire them. It is not whenever you want to or whenever you can pay, it means every day.
July 20, 2020, 01:54:05 PM
Lol this has been the same comments that people are making in my country where I live. They are all saying that due to the quarantine that they are not going to die because of virus, it’s the hunger that’s going to kill them lol. That’s why a lot of them have strongly opposed the quarantine and are saying that they want to continue going for their jobs and prefer to main a social distance (which I know for sure that they wouldn’t).
But let’s be sincere here, this quarantine will not favour the poor in every society. Even if the government decides to pay money into all accounts, some of these people don’t have bank accounts, and government can’t feed everybody.
Quarantine is indeed a lot that refuses because according to them it is not according to what was promised before they were treated like animals in brackets alone by being given potluck so many refused and rebels I think this also happened in my area.But let’s be sincere here, this quarantine will not favour the poor in every society. Even if the government decides to pay money into all accounts, some of these people don’t have bank accounts, and government can’t feed everybody.
Not all people are dependent on the Bank even now aid is always through an account so I think this way the government is less effective for the poor but it will be difficult for them to weigh food aid directly to their people.
July 20, 2020, 01:03:52 PM
Lol this has been the same comments that people are making in my country where I live. They are all saying that due to the quarantine that they are not going to die because of virus, it’s the hunger that’s going to kill them lol. That’s why a lot of them have strongly opposed the quarantine and are saying that they want to continue going for their jobs and prefer to main a social distance (which I know for sure that they wouldn’t).
But let’s be sincere here, this quarantine will not favour the poor in every society. Even if the government decides to pay money into all accounts, some of these people don’t have bank accounts, and government can’t feed everybody.
But let’s be sincere here, this quarantine will not favour the poor in every society. Even if the government decides to pay money into all accounts, some of these people don’t have bank accounts, and government can’t feed everybody.
July 20, 2020, 09:24:41 AM
celebrities who don't pay their employees' salaries like taking advantage of this moment, they are really embarrassing. I'm sure their income is not at all impacted heavily..
This virus has much worse economic impact rather than medical
the medical impact that will be borne by sufferers of corona which makes the economy worse.. medical workers continue to suggest that we stay at home as long as the vaccine has not been found even though the death rate due to corona is only 0.1%. the medical workers have worked very hard even willing to not meet their families for months, we all just need to work together to break the chain of distribution of COVID-19 by following the rules of "new normal" even though it is very uncomfortable.. July 20, 2020, 09:17:36 AM
Poor workers.
They can't just do their jobs in this pandemic but that doesn't mean that they should not be paying their workers since it is their way of helping people in this hard times. Also, as far as I know he donated millions to fight covid19, but she can't pay her workers?
Brands would be brands. As celebs continue to buy and use it, fans and other people would do the same.
They can't just do their jobs in this pandemic but that doesn't mean that they should not be paying their workers since it is their way of helping people in this hard times. Also, as far as I know he donated millions to fight covid19, but she can't pay her workers?
Brands would be brands. As celebs continue to buy and use it, fans and other people would do the same.
People do that for certain reasons which is mostly for selfish gain and for political gains and appointment in the future. People have donated to government in this covid-19 hard time and leaving out people and workers that are suppose to be paid just for the sake of making themselves relevant in the government of the day. Covid-19 pandemic has exposed the ills of the people of the world.
July 20, 2020, 08:39:58 AM
It is a sad truth revealed that many celebrities have left those people behind their success which are their workers when the crisis brought by pandemic arise. Yes, we are all aware that we are all seriously affected by this pandemic most specially because there is less job opportunities to be found because business establishments are temporarily to permanent closure because of this. But for those people working for the celebrities, it is really a sad moment that you were there at times they needed you and you were one of the keys behind their success but when time you needed them the most, they have turned their backs and left you hanging.
Famous brand celebrities have tons of money with them and that's for sure. May they at least give a small percentage of those money for the needy people at this time because surely when this crisis end, they can regain more than enough of what they have given to their people. May at least be their social responsibility and appreciation to help their workers at times like this because they need it the most to survive this pandemic.
Famous brand celebrities have tons of money with them and that's for sure. May they at least give a small percentage of those money for the needy people at this time because surely when this crisis end, they can regain more than enough of what they have given to their people. May at least be their social responsibility and appreciation to help their workers at times like this because they need it the most to survive this pandemic.
July 20, 2020, 08:13:03 AM
I hate seeing famous celebs and big companies who refuse to pay workers because they are affected by COVID-19. Even though they don't want to
his income is reduced, so small workers like us become victims. Payments that workers should receive, are used to cover their losses due to COVID-19.
After being exposed to the public they start making payments for fear that the image looks bad, really embarrassing people like this.
his income is reduced, so small workers like us become victims. Payments that workers should receive, are used to cover their losses due to COVID-19.
After being exposed to the public they start making payments for fear that the image looks bad, really embarrassing people like this.
If those famous celebs do that, I am sure that it doesn't take too long to see their popularity will reduce than before because people see that they don't pay their workers, and they don't have a responsibility for what happened with their workers. At least, they can show their humanity at this moment, so people will think that the celebs are not just popular, but the celebs are also generous, and they feel about their worker's live.
That can help them to gain more popularity in public, and they can also get more fans that will love them, not just as a celeb, but also a public figure that really care about other people's lives. I hope they will realize their mistake, and they will take care of their workers.
July 20, 2020, 02:53:59 AM
I hate seeing famous celebs and big companies who refuse to pay workers because they are affected by COVID-19. Even though they don't want to
his income is reduced, so small workers like us become victims. Payments that workers should receive, are used to cover their losses due to COVID-19.
After being exposed to the public they start making payments for fear that the image looks bad, really embarrassing people like this.
his income is reduced, so small workers like us become victims. Payments that workers should receive, are used to cover their losses due to COVID-19.
After being exposed to the public they start making payments for fear that the image looks bad, really embarrassing people like this.
July 20, 2020, 02:02:20 AM
Everyone who is rich or wealthy need to have it in their mind that they're experiencing all the luxury just because of some poor people. Maybe they could've got talents and innovative mind, but to make money out of it can't be done all alone. Here the employees play the role, and from my personal understanding wealthy people too are suffering out of the economic situation. They aren't suffering without food as the poor, it is the government's responsibility to support the poor claiming from the business owners who aren't providing the salaries.
Therefore there is the term consolidated bottom of the pyramid. The middle and lower classes must consolidate so that it does not only become a market for the upper classes. The aim is that the economy does not move vertically upward but drips downward. The middle and lower classes must reverse the situation so that the economy rotates horizontally at the bottom of the pyramid so that the welfare of the middle and lower classes can increase. The bottom of the pyramid should not only be a market but must produce what is consumed alone.
July 19, 2020, 04:34:15 PM
What if these people , these small workers start their own brands and directly receive payments in Bitcoins ? What matters is skills , the price will be cheaper for the person buying it and these people will even make more.
People buy famous brands for two reasons - they trust in brand's quality, because they can't verify the quality on their own, or they buy a brand because it's a status symbol on its own. There are already countless smaller brands and no-named manufacturers, but I'm pretty sure that they pay even less than these big brands, which is why poor people will keep sticking to their jobs there.
Bitcoin solves absolutely nothing here, since there's no monetary problem here, and if a company tried to only accept Bitcoin, they would sink in their first month - that's how low the adoption is right now.
Aside from that this is really not the best time to create their own business, resources are high in value and at the same time they would worry about the logistics and marketing basically everything on what they need to do in order to make a sale. I know you think that they will already have the support in the community as people will be helping them by supporting their product but without really a sponsor or a company willing to help them succeed in their new business I doubt that they'll be reaching the goal they will be expecting.
July 19, 2020, 04:05:44 PM
What if these people , these small workers start their own brands and directly receive payments in Bitcoins ? What matters is skills , the price will be cheaper for the person buying it and these people will even make more.
People buy famous brands for two reasons - they trust in brand's quality, because they can't verify the quality on their own, or they buy a brand because it's a status symbol on its own. There are already countless smaller brands and no-named manufacturers, but I'm pretty sure that they pay even less than these big brands, which is why poor people will keep sticking to their jobs there.
Bitcoin solves absolutely nothing here, since there's no monetary problem here, and if a company tried to only accept Bitcoin, they would sink in their first month - that's how low the adoption is right now.
July 19, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
The difference is, when you are making 20-100k per year (and even less in other nations) you can't really save too much money aside, you end up spending almost all of it just to live, sure you may put in a bit of it but not a whole lot and that is why you can't survive for too long. On the other hand celebs make millions of dollars every single year, they are super rich and if they put in half of their income for just ONE year, that would be enough to cover like 10 salary for their workers for a whole year.
Obviously they can't always do that but all they have to do is put 10% of their income aside and they would be able to pay their workers even if they do not work for years. Which is the difference, poor people can't afford to lose any income, rich people can end up not working for years.
Obviously they can't always do that but all they have to do is put 10% of their income aside and they would be able to pay their workers even if they do not work for years. Which is the difference, poor people can't afford to lose any income, rich people can end up not working for years.
July 19, 2020, 02:35:45 PM
The extent the impact of the Coronavirus had on finances cannot be overemphasized and not only on celebrities or individuals but also on companies. Even in my country of residence residence there are several companies that have stop paying salaries, others have done salary cut while several others have laid off staff.
Calling out these celebrities won't make much difference because they themselves are mostly hit because quite a number of them are only relevant because of their constant inflows from various movies, shows or concerts which is no longer possible now and they still need to ensure they maintain their prior status.
Calling out these celebrities won't make much difference because they themselves are mostly hit because quite a number of them are only relevant because of their constant inflows from various movies, shows or concerts which is no longer possible now and they still need to ensure they maintain their prior status.
July 19, 2020, 11:53:54 AM
Everyone who is rich or wealthy need to have it in their mind that they're experiencing all the luxury just because of some poor people. Maybe they could've got talents and innovative mind, but to make money out of it can't be done all alone. Here the employees play the role, and from my personal understanding wealthy people too are suffering out of the economic situation. They aren't suffering without food as the poor, it is the government's responsibility to support the poor claiming from the business owners who aren't providing the salaries.
July 19, 2020, 11:40:29 AM
It is easier for a boss to fire his workers during this time, they can just made a reason because of the pandemic. Paying the workers, including a situational circumstance like this will depend on the contract signed by them especially if they are working with celebrity.
Bosses are firing their workers due to financial problem that they are experiencing during this pandemic, that is because they aren't allowed to operate and as they are paying their worker's wages the business have no profit to make it become stable. The reason why most of the businesses are closed it is because of the economic crisis that a country is experiencing. You can't pay your employee if they don't go to work, that's the reality of life. Celebrities are not that rich enough to pay all of those worker's salary even if they don't do their work, but they can give help or financial support amidst this pandemic.
Don't hate anyone, let us be equal here, take a look on the contracts.
But what is the sense of contracts if the business is closed? For sure if they still come after the contract then the business will soon become bankrupt.
July 19, 2020, 11:02:54 AM
This is just sad. My grandmother usually tell me that rich people would be richer and poor people would be poorer, I never thought that I would be even seeing that happening in this world. They are trampling down these people since they have the power to do so.
Even if we support small businesses, how about those workers that have it rough too. Those people that can't just do their own thing since their career is always below someone.
it is just a word that has not been confirmed so that humanity has a life goal that can be achieved. life is like a spinning wheel friend we are not always in the top position there is a time we will also be in the bottom position. Those words are a spirit for us to spirit in reaching the corner of life. if we are just lazing we are just that position...? Even if we support small businesses, how about those workers that have it rough too. Those people that can't just do their own thing since their career is always below someone.
July 19, 2020, 10:31:47 AM
This is just sad. My grandmother usually tell me that rich people would be richer and poor people would be poorer, I never thought that I would be even seeing that happening in this world. They are trampling down these people since they have the power to do so.
They have number one to look after just like everyone else. It is poor business sense to let productive contractors wither but the companies know many of them will be back as they don't have any better options, that's if the companies that employ them survive. Everyone has taken a massive hit from the top to the bottom.
July 19, 2020, 09:45:02 AM
This is just sad. My grandmother usually tell me that rich people would be richer and poor people would be poorer, I never thought that I would be even seeing that happening in this world. They are trampling down these people since they have the power to do so.
Even if we support small businesses, how about those workers that have it rough too. Those people that can't just do their own thing since their career is always below someone.
Even if we support small businesses, how about those workers that have it rough too. Those people that can't just do their own thing since their career is always below someone.
July 19, 2020, 08:44:08 AM
Some of the people are being generous and helping their servants and maids. But at the same time, I have come across instances where people behave like animals. My cousin told me about one such occasion from Delhi. Where he lives, there is a poor laborer who use to wash cars and other personal vehicles, in exchange for INR 500 per month (around $6). My cousin's neighbor refused to pay even this meager amount, saying that because of lockdown the vehicle wasn't driven and therefore it wasn't dirty. Remember that this guy is working in a MNC, earning around $4,000 per month. The vehicle was being cleaned everyday, but the worker never received his payment. These people don't have any compassion or any moral values. I just hope that such people would get Coronavirus and die like dogs.
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