Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month
if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php
Topic: Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB - page 94. (Read 1061417 times)
if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php
Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month
Did something break? there was a stale block about four hours ago and the payment queue has been empty since then... or is that expected behavior when a stale pops up?
Pool always drops into safety standby when a stale block pops up. While in that mode, the pool sends mined coins to the pool's cold wallet. This is why the payout queue grows over time. Then wk will make a manual payout from the cold wallet, which shrinks the queue back down. We are a bit overdue for such a manual payout at the moment, but I've been mining with the pool for more than a year now, and wk always makes it right in the end.
Wizkid, a long time ago you had mentioned that if people want to be excluded from a manual payout, and only receive generated coins (with the subsequent wait) that we could request that with a signed message sent from our address that we mine on.
I sent that a long time ago, but never got a reply (the PM is long since lost in BitcoinTalk's message history). I know you've been busy, and it's a stupid vanity thing, but if you're able to, I'd like to have some way of requesting to avoid manual payouts at the cost of increased variance if you can do that. If not, I understand, I just like the idea of keeping my mining address "clean" with only Coinbase transactions.
Thanks for running an awesome and slick pool!
Did something break? there was a stale block about four hours ago and the payment queue has been empty since then... or is that expected behavior when a stale pops up?
Pool always drops into safety standby when a stale block pops up. While in that mode, the pool sends mined coins to the pool's cold wallet. This is why the payout queue grows over time. Then wk will make a manual payout from the cold wallet, which shrinks the queue back down. We are a bit overdue for such a manual payout at the moment, but I've been mining with the pool for more than a year now, and wk always makes it right in the end.
Ahh, ok. thanks.
Did something break? there was a stale block about four hours ago and the payment queue has been empty since then... or is that expected behavior when a stale pops up?
Pool always drops into safety standby when a stale block pops up. While in that mode, the pool sends mined coins to the pool's cold wallet. This is why the payout queue grows over time. Then wk will make a manual payout from the cold wallet, which shrinks the queue back down. We are a bit overdue for such a manual payout at the moment, but I've been mining with the pool for more than a year now, and wk always makes it right in the end.
Did something break? there was a stale block about four hours ago and the payment queue has been empty since then... or is that expected behavior when a stale pops up?
Hi wizkid057 I just tried to push few transactions on http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/pushtxn.php but I got his error So here are the transactions:
1.0f77b5caac853fb730d5747efb3f9a59e179f72a3089bd82028a47fe3f1a7e452.35753eadd9d0beb20cd166b490119427bc5d67c2b5cd0817bb35def3f0a55804 3.8acb3da9e090abc5c6148675d88105e54508919f15db0bd01f624454aebce01c 4.ab369fb93bdd527ddb67f9e6f161c25c3af083377630c92e9f3509daae43208f 5.fe790f61628f124c8b99015a202795366a11d86f7ff8a20c3b7ae7afefbafdc9 6.62da7cd8d051daaafced3a8ba85d5b8109d6ea2a2b5a9f1da21d50dc2e33c5d6 7.4aad2b747cf100a1c26a6f7100cfbb736d816d324b6351839fd3089e6ed24171 All of the transactions pays triple the fee they actually need to and I will pay you another 0.020 for your work if transactions gets confirmed.
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Trying to send...
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Response = 0Sorry, function disabled. Contact wizkid057 directly if you need a transaction mined.
1.0f77b5caac853fb730d5747efb3f9a59e179f72a3089bd82028a47fe3f1a7e45
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I just caught this in my proxy. Looks like error data coming back from the pool?
M
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2014-12-13 20:53:50,128 INFO proxy stratum_listener.submit # [154ms] Share from '[edited]' REJECTED: (20, u"'data'", u'Traceback (most recent call last):\n File "./eloipool.py", line 668, in receiveShare\n checkShare(share)\n File "./eloipool.py", line 504, in checkShare\n MWL = workLog[None]\nKeyError: None\n\nDuring handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:\n\nTraceback (most recent call last):\n File "/home/bitcoinpool/eloipool/stratumserver.py", line 91, in found_terminator\n rv = getattr(self, funcname)(*rpc[\'params\'])\n File "/home/bitcoinpool/eloipool/stratumserver.py", line 186, in _stratum_mining_submit\n self.server.receiveShare(share)\n File "./eloipool.py", line 677, in receiveShare\n logShare(share)\n File "./eloipool.py", line 649, in logShare\n share[\'solution\'] = b2a_hex(swap32(share[\'data\'])).decode(\'utf8\')\nKeyError: \'data\'\n')
M
It's not so much that it will be split up between the miners as much as it will be paid towards the share log and get paid to miners who were active prior to the withholding attack.
I'm not sold on any of the bitcoin investment sites/companies/scams/etc. And even if I were, using miner funds for anything other than paying miners would not be a reasonable thing to do.
I'm not sold on any of the bitcoin investment sites/companies/scams/etc. And even if I were, using miner funds for anything other than paying miners would not be a reasonable thing to do.
i guess you were right, even if they were not scam they can go mt.gox way.
well... just my noob idea.
It's not so much that it will be split up between the miners as much as it will be paid towards the share log and get paid to miners who were active prior to the withholding attack.
I'm not sold on any of the bitcoin investment sites/companies/scams/etc. And even if I were, using miner funds for anything other than paying miners would not be a reasonable thing to do.
I'm not sold on any of the bitcoin investment sites/companies/scams/etc. And even if I were, using miner funds for anything other than paying miners would not be a reasonable thing to do.
@wizkid
thanks for all the work, the pool seem getting block again and everything is good
about witholder fund, if everyone has already paid, then would it be better if the fund were invested in sort of cryptostock or even swap at bitfinex and the interest in one month can be paid evenly to all block solver of each month
i think this way we can get more big miner into pool and benefit more to all. if we split 200btc, the amount for each miner will be negligible anyway.
thanks again
thanks for all the work, the pool seem getting block again and everything is good
about witholder fund, if everyone has already paid, then would it be better if the fund were invested in sort of cryptostock or even swap at bitfinex and the interest in one month can be paid evenly to all block solver of each month
i think this way we can get more big miner into pool and benefit more to all. if we split 200btc, the amount for each miner will be negligible anyway.
thanks again
Hi again wizkid057
It will soon be 6 months... We could at lest get an answer is you still plan to distribute BTC to miners... Any idea when or will be used in some other way?
Regards
It will soon be 6 months... We could at lest get an answer is you still plan to distribute BTC to miners... Any idea when or will be used in some other way?
Regards
Hi wizkid057
How is distributing that 200 BTC to miners going?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7282674
Or is this changed. Might have missed it. My problem is that my address at that time was compromised. And looking all the time if something is there is a bit stressful... So knowing when this will happen would help... Changing address that I had would also help...
How is distributing that 200 BTC to miners going?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7282674
My original plan was to return the coins we have held in offline storage to the rightful owners— the miners who were submitting real work and were affected by the withholding attack— by paying towards shelved shares accrued during that time period (doing this is non-trivial due to security measures in place). This is still my intention...
Or is this changed. Might have missed it. My problem is that my address at that time was compromised. And looking all the time if something is there is a bit stressful... So knowing when this will happen would help... Changing address that I had would also help...
Hi Everyone,
To the topic of the withholder issue funds, I have not had the time to dedicate to the coding for this. Since Eligius has been designed specifically to prevent anyone, including myself, from moving balances or otherwise disturbing user stats and the like, doing so involves quite a bit of coding and some redesign to the existing system to make this a secure thing.
Due to non-bitcoin non-Eligius related matters in real life I've not had as much time to dedicate to Eligius over the past several months as I would have liked. Fortunately in the coming weeks (after the holidays) my schedule opens up significantly and I will be back to completing many of my Eligius related projects.
In the meantime I've been dedicating the time I do have towards improving the back end of things so that everything just runs more smoothly with limited amounts of human intervention needed. This has been working out well, and many have noted the increase in overall reliability of the pool due to these improvements. I expect to continue to improve everything as time goes on.
So in short, I haven't forgotten about the withholder funds. They will basically be distributed to the CPPSRB share log towards the shares of that time period that were shelved. Fortunately many of those were already paid by decent luck following the exile of the withholder, so, it will likely dig up some even older shelved shares when I do get to this. This basically will have no effect on anyone who started mining after the withholder incident.
I do actively check a large majority of statistics looking for potential block withholders. There is a huge margin for error in these stats nowadays though, with the difficulty being so high. However, I don't really even see any potential candidates for withholders currently, so, all seems well.
-wk
No one complains when we get back to back blocks...
M
M
No, I do NOT complain at the moment :-p
Sorry for disturbing I solved my problem It turns out that I used 21 outputs in my raw tx when there was only 20 to spend.
there must be a way to handle these witholding attack, maybe start shelving few bitcoin each block for block finder
What withholding attacks?I think only the pool op can confirm if someone is doing a block withholding attack. And even then, a well designed one would be next to impossible to catch.
M
there must be a way to handle these witholding attack, maybe start shelving few bitcoin each block for block finder
What withholding attacks?oh sorry, i mean if there is a withholding attack...
there must be a way to handle these witholding attack, maybe start shelving few bitcoin each block for block finder
What withholding attacks? It is inevitable to have luck like this once in a while. There's no foul play, just statistics. No use whining about it. You won't earn more by moving to other pools.
im not planning to leave pool, but there is some attack on this pool previously.
maybe some info about individual miner luck should be shown on http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/topcontributors.php so we can check each miner's luck
btw is it possible to form team of miner or something like that which in essence that honest miner with consistent yield will be rewarded
I apologize for my noob ignorance of this, but could you please elaborate on what individual miner luck is? I thought "luck" is just an abstract representation on how fast a block is found by the pool compared to an expected average based on current difficulty and world wide hashing power. And I also thought that I should be happy when people with large datacenters in secret bunkers get 'lucky' for the pool, so then people like me, with a few miners in a closet and a large electric bill (and with better chance to win the state lottery than ever finding a block) get paid. Does it give you any advantage to be the one who found the block for the pool (i.e. the 'lucky one') other than your address being displayed on the hall of fame? Thanks for helping a noob understand things.
What they could list is the number of found blocks vs the number of submitted shares. Unfortunately it would only be applicable for the very largest miners, the variance would be so high for everyone else that it would be kind of pointless.
Yeah, in the end it's pointless regardless. The only people it would make sense to publish that stat for are the very largest miners, but anybody who's purposely attacking the pool by withholding blocks would presumably be smart enough to break their miners up into smaller chunks (and different IP's through proxies, etc.) so as to avoid suspicion. So, if there were anything nefarious going on, publishing the luck per miner on the stats page wouldn't help anybody figure it out.
there must be a way to handle these witholding attack, maybe start shelving few bitcoin each block for block finder
It is inevitable to have luck like this once in a while. There's no foul play, just statistics. No use whining about it. You won't earn more by moving to other pools.
im not planning to leave pool, but there is some attack on this pool previously.
maybe some info about individual miner luck should be shown on http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/topcontributors.php so we can check each miner's luck
btw is it possible to form team of miner or something like that which in essence that honest miner with consistent yield will be rewarded
I apologize for my noob ignorance of this, but could you please elaborate on what individual miner luck is? I thought "luck" is just an abstract representation on how fast a block is found by the pool compared to an expected average based on current difficulty and world wide hashing power. And I also thought that I should be happy when people with large datacenters in secret bunkers get 'lucky' for the pool, so then people like me, with a few miners in a closet and a large electric bill (and with better chance to win the state lottery than ever finding a block) get paid. Does it give you any advantage to be the one who found the block for the pool (i.e. the 'lucky one') other than your address being displayed on the hall of fame? Thanks for helping a noob understand things.
What they could list is the number of found blocks vs the number of submitted shares. Unfortunately it would only be applicable for the very largest miners, the variance would be so high for everyone else that it would be kind of pointless.
Yeah, in the end it's pointless regardless. The only people it would make sense to publish that stat for are the very largest miners, but anybody who's purposely attacking the pool by withholding blocks would presumably be smart enough to break their miners up into smaller chunks (and different IP's through proxies, etc.) so as to avoid suspicion. So, if there were anything nefarious going on, publishing the luck per miner on the stats page wouldn't help anybody figure it out.
Walking under a ladder, breaking a mirror, and stepping on cracks are well known to affect luck. I'm assuming that most eligius miners have been doing these three things very often over the past few days.
I would not exclude a herd of black cats crossing the alleys of the data center either...derp.... its 31% luck today... i wonder what 31% luck 3 days in a row would look like in real life when 100% is the normal luck...
i suspect some miner is herding black cat in their basement...
The bad luck is all my fault. I have been depressed, and when that happens street lights go out when I walk by, and Eligius gets far fewer blocks that it usually does. The good news is that, when I am in a good mood, the luck increases and lights come back on all over the city.
You can test this by sending 1 or 2 BTC to my address 1LordWontYouBuyMeAMercedezBenz
oh dear i do try to send you 2 BTC to yor addr, but its "Unrecognized wallet address" says my computer... well maybe if you got in better mood then my computer will recognize yor wallet addr
sorry...
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