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Topic: Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB - page 93. (Read 1061417 times)

hero member
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Merit: 500
Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month

if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block


http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php

Is there no easy way to see the total combined luck for a time period?

My windows monitoring app shows it (see my sig).  As of now Eligius is at:

10 blocks: 67.48%
12 hours: 31.29%
24 hours: 35.28%
7 days: 88.6%
30 days: 89.64%
90 days: 96.79%

M

I had NEVER seen luck fluctuating above 100% over 30 or 90 days. Have you seen it?
If it is pure statistics, this should be symmetrical, isn't it?


That's an interesting point.  I'm curious if there's a mathematical explanation for that.

M

There is a downward bias due to orphan blocks.  Long-term average should be around 97%-98%.  Remember, the longer the period, the more the luck converges to the "true" number.  It would have to be pretty extreme good luck to hit 100%+ for 30 or 90 days.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Still better than here! 80something some time ago Shocked
I feel like going to crap ghash  but hell no!
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
i would advise to take data from other pools and compare!
luck it really is crap with eligius this last ~2months

I did recently look at BTC Guild.  It's pretty bad there too:

24H - 126.98%
3day - 93.97%
1w - 92.32%
2w - 93.03%
1m - 93.71%
3m - 91.27%
all time - 97.51%

M
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
i would advise to take data from other pools and compare!
luck it really is crap with eligius this last ~2months
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month

if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block


http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php

Is there no easy way to see the total combined luck for a time period?

My windows monitoring app shows it (see my sig).  As of now Eligius is at:

10 blocks: 67.48%
12 hours: 31.29%
24 hours: 35.28%
7 days: 88.6%
30 days: 89.64%
90 days: 96.79%

M

I had NEVER seen luck fluctuating above 100% over 30 or 90 days. Have you seen it?
If it is pure statistics, this should be symmetrical, isn't it?


That's an interesting point.  I'm curious if there's a mathematical explanation for that.

M
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month

if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block


http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php

Is there no easy way to see the total combined luck for a time period?

My windows monitoring app shows it (see my sig).  As of now Eligius is at:

10 blocks: 67.48%
12 hours: 31.29%
24 hours: 35.28%
7 days: 88.6%
30 days: 89.64%
90 days: 96.79%

M

I had NEVER seen luck fluctuating above 100% over 30 or 90 days. Have you seen it?
If it is pure statistics, this should be symmetrical, isn't it?
newbie
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Merit: 0
Pardon if I'm posting in the wrong section... Looking for help with Eligius API.

With no JSON expertise at all, my objective is to return "raw" comma delimited *CURRENT* public stats.

I found "PAST" block info using:
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/api.php?cmd=getblocks&limit=1&format=csv&csvastext=1
luck,confirmations,blockhash,height,duration,age,roundstart,roundend,hashrate,...
36.825168438117,1,000000000000000007a3c7c6791d1a28241620035d4677fbe65c97853efa48a4,335277,...
And the format it returns is what I want... but...

I'm looking for real time current Pool Hashrate; Round Time(duration); and current Round Luck as displayed on the main Eligius page. The data from the query above is last block/round, not current round.

I wanting to call directly from a browser and return raw data exactly as with the "getblocks" above using the cvsastext format.

Would anyone have the correct http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/api.php?cmd= I would use for CURRENT info?

Thanks in advance for any direction you can provide.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
I see a large variation in btc accrued vs work done in the last few weeks.
Examples:
Just on one worker
12/4-12/11-0.23 BTC paid instead of ~0.4 expected at 0.058/day that your statistics shows (0.17 BTC missing or 42%)
12/15-12/21-0.25 BTC accrued (not paid yet), but ~0.34-35 was expected (0.1 BTC missing or 29%)

You cannot attribute bad luck to weeks and weeks of work.
I "lost" 0.27 BTC of legitimate revenue in the last  17 days just counting one worker

What is going on Eligius?

Actually it can be attributed to bad luck.  It's also possible a block with-holding attack is going on in a manner that can't be detected.

M
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
I see a large variation in btc accrued vs work done in the last few weeks.
Examples:
Just on one worker
12/4-12/11-0.23 BTC paid instead of ~0.4 expected at 0.058/day that your statistics shows (0.17 BTC missing or 42%)
12/15-12/21-0.25 BTC accrued (not paid yet), but ~0.34-35 was expected (0.1 BTC missing or 29%)

You cannot attribute bad luck to weeks and weeks of work.
I "lost" 0.27 BTC of legitimate revenue in the last  17 days just counting one worker

What is going on Eligius?
full member
Activity: 123
Merit: 100
Does anyone have any idea what the 1.7 PH/s jumps for 18.5 hours on the 10th, and for 6.5 hours on the 18th were?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Eligius, do you even luck?
hero member
Activity: 536
Merit: 500
[..]
30 days: 89.64%

Thanks.

But wow, that is truly abysmal. What are the odds that the luck is that skewed from the expectation over the course 30 days =~ 4320 blocks? Must be fractions of a percent.

4320 blocks is not your sample size.  Eligius is ~3% of the network, putting the expected blocks closer to 129 or 130.

Oh yes of course, I'm dumb Embarrassed
donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
[..]
30 days: 89.64%

Thanks.

But wow, that is truly abysmal. What are the odds that the luck is that skewed from the expectation over the course 30 days =~ 4320 blocks? Must be fractions of a percent.

4320 blocks is not your sample size.  Eligius is ~3% of the network, putting the expected blocks closer to 129 or 130.

P(X > 1/0.8964 | n = 130) = 0.9

ie you can expect worse luck than this in ten percent of 130 block sequences.
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
[..]
30 days: 89.64%

Thanks.

But wow, that is truly abysmal. What are the odds that the luck is that skewed from the expectation over the course 30 days =~ 4320 blocks? Must be fractions of a percent.

4320 blocks is not your sample size.  Eligius is ~3% of the network, putting the expected blocks closer to 129 or 130.
hero member
Activity: 536
Merit: 500
[..]
30 days: 89.64%

Thanks.

But wow, that is truly abysmal. What are the odds that the luck is that skewed from the expectation over the course 30 days =~ 4320 blocks? Must be fractions of a percent.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month

if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block


http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php

Is there no easy way to see the total combined luck for a time period?

My windows monitoring app shows it (see my sig).  As of now Eligius is at:

10 blocks: 67.48%
12 hours: 31.29%
24 hours: 35.28%
7 days: 88.6%
30 days: 89.64%
90 days: 96.79%

M

That's pretty cool, pity about it being Windows though. I'll give it a try using Mono, but it would be cool to have something like this that's cross-platform (python maybe). I found your github repo, I might take a look at it, I'm not really a great programmer by any means, but it'd be cool if it could be refactored into something more portable.



It's easy enough to do in Excel.  Just copy and paste the stuff from the Blocks page into Excel, and do some math with it.  I just worked out a decent worksheet, although it's got a few problems so I won't give directions for it yet, but I'll try to clean it up and post the formulas here within a couple of days.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month

if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block


http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php

Is there no easy way to see the total combined luck for a time period?

My windows monitoring app shows it (see my sig).  As of now Eligius is at:

10 blocks: 67.48%
12 hours: 31.29%
24 hours: 35.28%
7 days: 88.6%
30 days: 89.64%
90 days: 96.79%

M

That's pretty cool, pity about it being Windows though. I'll give it a try using Mono, but it would be cool to have something like this that's cross-platform (python maybe). I found your github repo, I might take a look at it, I'm not really a great programmer by any means, but it'd be cool if it could be refactored into something more portable.

The information is available in the APIs from Eligius.  I'm not doing anything fancy, just manipulating the data made publicly available.

I hear you about Windows only.  The thing is, it's really easy in .net, which is why I did it.  I've never seen anything simple in Linux land. Sad

I'm currently exploring other options, namely in the portable device arena, but no promises there.

M
full member
Activity: 123
Merit: 100
Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month

if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block


http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php

Is there no easy way to see the total combined luck for a time period?

My windows monitoring app shows it (see my sig).  As of now Eligius is at:

10 blocks: 67.48%
12 hours: 31.29%
24 hours: 35.28%
7 days: 88.6%
30 days: 89.64%
90 days: 96.79%

M

That's pretty cool, pity about it being Windows though. I'll give it a try using Mono, but it would be cool to have something like this that's cross-platform (python maybe). I found your github repo, I might take a look at it, I'm not really a great programmer by any means, but it'd be cool if it could be refactored into something more portable.

legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month

if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block


http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php

Is there no easy way to see the total combined luck for a time period?

My windows monitoring app shows it (see my sig).  As of now Eligius is at:

10 blocks: 67.48%
12 hours: 31.29%
24 hours: 35.28%
7 days: 88.6%
30 days: 89.64%
90 days: 96.79%

M
hero member
Activity: 536
Merit: 500
Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month

if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block


http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php

Is there no easy way to see the total combined luck for a time period?
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