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August 18, 2023, 05:49:39 PM
I can honestly say that many people around me have complained about the radical change efforts on twitter. maybe Musk's mistake is that he can't tell us exactly the platform he wants to create. but people don't seem to want any other innovation on twitter except for minor improvements. i think he wants to make it a platform where more crypto aware people can use it and get some work done, but i think it's too early for that. as you said, millions of ordinary people use this platform and he should make it a more democratic and user request based platform instead of using it like a rich kid playing with his toy. otherwise this decline will continue.
Many users are lost from Twitter due to Twitter's name and logo change. Personally speaking, I find it very bad now.  And now I ignore Twitter. That's exactly how many users are leaving Twitter. This is a wrong decision of Elon Musk on the other hand now anyone can buy a verified badge in exchange of money on Twitter due to which now many fake accounts are also getting verified badge.  Due to this, it is becoming difficult to find a legal company's Twitter page.  This is another fault of Twitter.  I don't know why Elon Musk is doing this.  I personally condemn it
I don't think, Twitter changing its logo is the main reason people are leaving Twitter. People might be leaving Twitter because of the way it has been monetized, like the verified badge you mentioned of. Even at that, no social media is yet to challenge Twitter in its wide exposure and outreach of information and businesses. The Thread app that we thought will do well to replace Twitter, where is it today? It's nowhere close to Twitter in performance
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August 18, 2023, 07:53:53 AM
He's arguably one of the smartest men in the world. I don't think he has any interest in buying Twitter and satisfying his personal tastes. However, there is something wrong and Twitter is losing value all the time. I think if Twitter, like YouTube, shared its revenues with content creators, things could be good again. Elon Musk should change the selfish nature of Twitter and put less restrictions on users. If he doesn't have any other ideas, he can make things right again by taking these simple measures.
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August 18, 2023, 07:24:04 AM
I can honestly say that many people around me have complained about the radical change efforts on twitter. maybe Musk's mistake is that he can't tell us exactly the platform he wants to create. but people don't seem to want any other innovation on twitter except for minor improvements. i think he wants to make it a platform where more crypto aware people can use it and get some work done, but i think it's too early for that. as you said, millions of ordinary people use this platform and he should make it a more democratic and user request based platform instead of using it like a rich kid playing with his toy. otherwise this decline will continue.
Twitter is failing and of all the policies and regulations that Musk has imposed, the one that hurts me the most is that it this will be disastrous for activists too. A lot of campaign information is shared via twitter, and a lot of activists use twitter because the censorship on twitter differed greatly to the censorship on other apps. I worry what will happen to activists living in countries where it is hard to get mainstream media coverage of what goes on in their country, and when it does, it's because twitter and other social platforms have highlighted the issue. I have also seen a lot of local activism and people sharing their own stories on twitter because mainstream media won't cover it. It could harm freedom of speech and allow mainstream media and news to control what we see.

On the contrary, I see that he is trying to turn it into something bigger than what the old twitter offered. The most recent policy is the revenue sharing policy for users, and that's what everyone is actively responding to and supporting. This is something no other social network can do and what he's doing is worth watching.

I don't care about the revenue share that X social network is providing but many people in my country are excited and they see it as a new source of income for them. How will these cause twitter to fail?
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August 18, 2023, 02:33:50 AM
I can honestly say that many people around me have complained about the radical change efforts on twitter. maybe Musk's mistake is that he can't tell us exactly the platform he wants to create. but people don't seem to want any other innovation on twitter except for minor improvements. i think he wants to make it a platform where more crypto aware people can use it and get some work done, but i think it's too early for that. as you said, millions of ordinary people use this platform and he should make it a more democratic and user request based platform instead of using it like a rich kid playing with his toy. otherwise this decline will continue.
Twitter is failing and of all the policies and regulations that Musk has imposed, the one that hurts me the most is that it this will be disastrous for activists too. A lot of campaign information is shared via twitter, and a lot of activists use twitter because the censorship on twitter differed greatly to the censorship on other apps. I worry what will happen to activists living in countries where it is hard to get mainstream media coverage of what goes on in their country, and when it does, it's because twitter and other social platforms have highlighted the issue. I have also seen a lot of local activism and people sharing their own stories on twitter because mainstream media won't cover it. It could harm freedom of speech and allow mainstream media and news to control what we see.
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August 18, 2023, 02:01:23 AM
Behind the change of name there used to be some reason and the same won't be exposed in the short time. Over time people will come to know or the real reason behind the new name. For now it looks like it is his tag letter, because almost everything he owns have got a X. Earlier it is the SpaceX and now Twitter getting rebranded to "X" which could make changes.

It seems that this is not just X, but more a cross. Twitter is just one of the ends, so we get 3 or just more services, possibilities, or what ever they will come up with to come. For example it might be a social media + wallet + marketplace + app. Combination, collaboration, synergy of multiple services in one place. That is what I see in X. So until all the ideas are realized, it is early to talk about fall of Twitter.
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August 17, 2023, 11:10:49 PM
Changing a site's interface is quite common but this is completely different. If McDonald's changed their name and logo overnight it would be a really big deal. So far not many people are calling Twitter by it's new name so the rebranding is not very effective. This one thing might not be what kills Twitter but if they keep making unpopular changes people will become frustrated and abandon the platform.

They are not making these changes overnight. Elon has changed the logo of Twitter, but the URL and interface remains the same. I haven't noticed much differences apart from the logo. The URL may eventually change, but by then people may get used to it. On a serious note, I don't think that any of the users are going to be bothered. And it is same with other social media platforms as well. Do you really believe that if Facebook or Instagram changes the logo or brand name, then the users are going to abandon it?
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August 17, 2023, 10:09:54 PM
Take McDonalds rebranding for example. Search in google how McDonalds looked 20-40-60 years ago. They have completely change the way their restaurants look, the way employees look (uniform), the way menu look (wrapping and etc). Do you think less people started to visit McDonalds or change their taste? Imho every company needs a rebranding. Standing on one place, while industry is walking forward is wrong. Rebranding was needed. In fact, Elon has changed only the logo. Everything else stayed the same. Users habits remained the same. Every single button is on a same place.

Changing a site's interface is quite common but this is completely different. If McDonald's changed their name and logo overnight it would be a really big deal. So far not many people are calling Twitter by it's new name so the rebranding is not very effective. This one thing might not be what kills Twitter but if they keep making unpopular changes people will become frustrated and abandon the platform.
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August 17, 2023, 08:17:16 PM
You have a point because there is new management on it, so for sure having to change its name and branding is a possibility because the original owner is not there anymore, and those people who invest to earn big on it have a responsibility to change it on whatever they want too. Also, I don't see people laving Twitter ber like the purpose is the same ,but correc m e if i am wrnng as i am not reall into Ttwiteer as i a into Facacebook but you ar righ right functions are there and stil what Twitttwitter before is still the same riht nowow so i don't really understand why.
Behind the change of name there used to be some reason and the same won't be exposed in the short time. Over time people will come to know or the real reason behind the new name. For now it looks like it is his tag letter, because almost everything he owns have got a X. Earlier it is the SpaceX and now Twitter getting rebranded to "X" which could make changes.
I'm sure there is a reason for the rebranding of the name and specifically using X. Twitter or X, is still the same platform with some changes that the developers and its current owner believe to make user experience the best. Explanation as to why it is X does not have to be a big deal as it still remains to be the social media platform people use to connect. In fact, I agree with both of you about it not being a big deal. X or Twitter, it will still be used by many and it will not be the sole cause as to why the platform will (possibly) fall one day.
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August 17, 2023, 06:55:09 PM
I can honestly say that many people around me have complained about the radical change efforts on twitter. maybe Musk's mistake is that he can't tell us exactly the platform he wants to create. but people don't seem to want any other innovation on twitter except for minor improvements. i think he wants to make it a platform where more crypto aware people can use it and get some work done, but i think it's too early for that. as you said, millions of ordinary people use this platform and he should make it a more democratic and user request based platform instead of using it like a rich kid playing with his toy. otherwise this decline will continue.
Many users are lost from Twitter due to Twitter's name and logo change. Personally speaking, I find it very bad now.  And now I ignore Twitter. That's exactly how many users are leaving Twitter. This is a wrong decision of Elon Musk on the other hand now anyone can buy a verified badge in exchange of money on Twitter due to which now many fake accounts are also getting verified badge.  Due to this, it is becoming difficult to find a legal company's Twitter page.  This is another fault of Twitter.  I don't know why Elon Musk is doing this.  I personally condemn it

Take McDonalds rebranding for example. Search in google how McDonalds looked 20-40-60 years ago. They have completely change the way their restaurants look, the way employees look (uniform), the way menu look (wrapping and etc). Do you think less people started to visit McDonalds or change their taste? Imho every company needs a rebranding. Standing on one place, while industry is walking forward is wrong. Rebranding was needed. In fact, Elon has changed only the logo. Everything else stayed the same. Users habits remained the same. Every single button is on a same place.
You have a point because there is new management on it, so for sure having to change its name and branding is a possibility because the original owner is not there anymore, and those people who invest to earn big on it have a responsibility to change it on whatever they want too. Also, I don't see people laving Twitter ber like the purpose is the same ,but correc m e if i am wrnng as i am not reall into Ttwiteer as i a into Facacebook but you ar righ right functions are there and stil what Twitttwitter before is still the same riht nowow so i don't really understand why.
Behind the change of name there used to be some reason and the same won't be exposed in the short time. Over time people will come to know or the real reason behind the new name. For now it looks like it is his tag letter, because almost everything he owns have got a X. Earlier it is the SpaceX and now Twitter getting rebranded to "X" which could make changes.
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August 17, 2023, 05:06:41 AM
I can honestly say that many people around me have complained about the radical change efforts on twitter. maybe Musk's mistake is that he can't tell us exactly the platform he wants to create. but people don't seem to want any other innovation on twitter except for minor improvements. i think he wants to make it a platform where more crypto aware people can use it and get some work done, but i think it's too early for that. as you said, millions of ordinary people use this platform and he should make it a more democratic and user request based platform instead of using it like a rich kid playing with his toy. otherwise this decline will continue.
Many users are lost from Twitter due to Twitter's name and logo change. Personally speaking, I find it very bad now.  And now I ignore Twitter. That's exactly how many users are leaving Twitter. This is a wrong decision of Elon Musk on the other hand now anyone can buy a verified badge in exchange of money on Twitter due to which now many fake accounts are also getting verified badge.  Due to this, it is becoming difficult to find a legal company's Twitter page.  This is another fault of Twitter.  I don't know why Elon Musk is doing this.  I personally condemn it

Take McDonalds rebranding for example. Search in google how McDonalds looked 20-40-60 years ago. They have completely change the way their restaurants look, the way employees look (uniform), the way menu look (wrapping and etc). Do you think less people started to visit McDonalds or change their taste? Imho every company needs a rebranding. Standing on one place, while industry is walking forward is wrong. Rebranding was needed. In fact, Elon has changed only the logo. Everything else stayed the same. Users habits remained the same. Every single button is on a same place.
You have a point because there is new management on it, so for sure having to change its name and branding is a possibility because the original owner is not there anymore, and those people who invest to earn big on it have a responsibility to change it on whatever they want too. Also, I don't see people laving Twitter ber like the purpose is the same ,but correc m e if i am wrnng as i am not reall into Ttwiteer as i a into Facacebook but you ar righ right functions are there and stil what Twitttwitter before is still the same riht nowow so i don't really understand why.
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August 17, 2023, 04:09:00 AM
I can honestly say that many people around me have complained about the radical change efforts on twitter. maybe Musk's mistake is that he can't tell us exactly the platform he wants to create. but people don't seem to want any other innovation on twitter except for minor improvements. i think he wants to make it a platform where more crypto aware people can use it and get some work done, but i think it's too early for that. as you said, millions of ordinary people use this platform and he should make it a more democratic and user request based platform instead of using it like a rich kid playing with his toy. otherwise this decline will continue.
Many users are lost from Twitter due to Twitter's name and logo change. Personally speaking, I find it very bad now.  And now I ignore Twitter. That's exactly how many users are leaving Twitter. This is a wrong decision of Elon Musk on the other hand now anyone can buy a verified badge in exchange of money on Twitter due to which now many fake accounts are also getting verified badge.  Due to this, it is becoming difficult to find a legal company's Twitter page.  This is another fault of Twitter.  I don't know why Elon Musk is doing this.  I personally condemn it

Take McDonalds rebranding for example. Search in google how McDonalds looked 20-40-60 years ago. They have completely change the way their restaurants look, the way employees look (uniform), the way menu look (wrapping and etc). Do you think less people started to visit McDonalds or change their taste? Imho every company needs a rebranding. Standing on one place, while industry is walking forward is wrong. Rebranding was needed. In fact, Elon has changed only the logo. Everything else stayed the same. Users habits remained the same. Every single button is on a same place.
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August 16, 2023, 11:48:48 AM
I can honestly say that many people around me have complained about the radical change efforts on twitter. maybe Musk's mistake is that he can't tell us exactly the platform he wants to create. but people don't seem to want any other innovation on twitter except for minor improvements. i think he wants to make it a platform where more crypto aware people can use it and get some work done, but i think it's too early for that. as you said, millions of ordinary people use this platform and he should make it a more democratic and user request based platform instead of using it like a rich kid playing with his toy. otherwise this decline will continue.
Many users are lost from Twitter due to Twitter's name and logo change. Personally speaking, I find it very bad now.  And now I ignore Twitter. That's exactly how many users are leaving Twitter. This is a wrong decision of Elon Musk on the other hand now anyone can buy a verified badge in exchange of money on Twitter due to which now many fake accounts are also getting verified badge.  Due to this, it is becoming difficult to find a legal company's Twitter page.  This is another fault of Twitter.  I don't know why Elon Musk is doing this.  I personally condemn it
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August 16, 2023, 10:46:54 AM
I can honestly say that many people around me have complained about the radical change efforts on twitter. maybe Musk's mistake is that he can't tell us exactly the platform he wants to create. but people don't seem to want any other innovation on twitter except for minor improvements. i think he wants to make it a platform where more crypto aware people can use it and get some work done, but i think it's too early for that. as you said, millions of ordinary people use this platform and he should make it a more democratic and user request based platform instead of using it like a rich kid playing with his toy. otherwise this decline will continue.
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August 16, 2023, 10:12:58 AM
By the way, I am the only one who thinks that rebranding Twitter as X is a bad idea?
This social media has been known as Twitter since it's conception and its name had become well known among both users and outsiders of it. And now suddenly it changed to X.

To me does not make much sense to move from a brand and name which was already very popular and easily recognizable to everyone to a new one.

It would be something similar if Pepsi or Coca Cola decided to rebrand themselves as "W" or "Y". Is this something you would do as a CEO ? Be honest.
Of course I would not, to me keeping the image and logo of the company is more intelligent.

I see nothing bad in such rebranding. They have changed only the name of the wrapping, but the taste of candy stayed the same. It was amatter of time when we will see X. X stands for synenergy, compilation of products. Elon told that he is planning to turn twitter into something more than just instrument to share ideas. I trully believe that it is early to evaluate Elon, Twitter and what he did or will do with it. We will see the effect of this deal in years only.
I agree. Twitter was getting too old and boring for users anyway so rebranding was a good idea. It sure gathered a lot of attention when the rebranding was presented and launched. I'm sure Elon Musk still has a lot of changes to apply as Twitter turns to X and those changes will come as time passes, hence the full effects of the rebranding will only be felt after a few months or years. However, seeing as X is still being used by many and is gathering more attention due to the rebrand changes then I wouldn't say that Twitter or X will fall anytime soon.
For me, Elon Musk changing the bird logo of Twitter to just X, isn't a change that is obviously remarkable. The color is still blue, except for a few buttons color which changed. The previous bird logo clearly communicated the idea behind the creation of Twitter, which is to communicate by sharing opinions, views, gist, gossip.
 He should change the twitter name too, to fit the X logo he currently launched.
Also, am yet to really see how the implementation of other features to fulfil Elons' dream of promoting freedom of speech on Twitter is doing and what new features they introduced that stands out from its former glory.
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August 16, 2023, 09:47:15 AM
Well maybe there is not a fall of twitter anymore. Because before Elon Musk bought it it was going to look like it was going to become bankrupt.
But now the CEO Linda Yaccarino is saying it is almost to point of breaking even. She says a reason is that they reduced the staff from 8000 to only now 1500 people.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/10/ceo-says-x-formerly-twitter-is-close-to-break-even/
Twitter definitely works well if we keep in mind that staff went from 8K to 1500 people but this makes me think, what was the working culture in Twitter? How hard worker were their employees? What's the working culture in America? As far as I know, people work very hard in the USA and work 10-12 hours a day, usually. Do people in tech just drink coffee, read books and write a couple of lines on their computer?

After Elon Musk's recent decision to change the company's name to the symbol X, which his other companies are famous for, and after bypassing the platform by paying more than a third of a billion dollars as a result of its refusal to provide the US judiciary with evidence of Trump's account activity due to the state security cases brought against him, it is clear that Elon Musk does not aim to save Twitter from its financial crisis and generate revenue. Apparently, he will only be using the platform to promote himself and his projects. This will certainly affect the extent of the turnout on the platform and the level of freedom of expression in it.
His plans regarding to Twitter are very strange. Why did he change logo? What was the point? Twitter is not a twitter anymore! He said that his aim is freedom of speech and it's okay for him to lose all the money that he paid in Twitter if that's the price of freedom of speech. By the way, mistakes aren't expected for Elon Musk, that makes it impossible to predict whether it will be a good long-term decision what he does or not.
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August 16, 2023, 09:14:30 AM
By the way, I am the only one who thinks that rebranding Twitter as X is a bad idea?
This social media has been known as Twitter since it's conception and its name had become well known among both users and outsiders of it. And now suddenly it changed to X.

To me does not make much sense to move from a brand and name which was already very popular and easily recognizable to everyone to a new one.

It would be something similar if Pepsi or Coca Cola decided to rebrand themselves as "W" or "Y". Is this something you would do as a CEO ? Be honest.
Of course I would not, to me keeping the image and logo of the company is more intelligent.

I see nothing bad in such rebranding. They have changed only the name of the wrapping, but the taste of candy stayed the same. It was amatter of time when we will see X. X stands for synenergy, compilation of products. Elon told that he is planning to turn twitter into something more than just instrument to share ideas. I trully believe that it is early to evaluate Elon, Twitter and what he did or will do with it. We will see the effect of this deal in years only.
I agree. Twitter was getting too old and boring for users anyway so rebranding was a good idea. It sure gathered a lot of attention when the rebranding was presented and launched. I'm sure Elon Musk still has a lot of changes to apply as Twitter turns to X and those changes will come as time passes, hence the full effects of the rebranding will only be felt after a few months or years. However, seeing as X is still being used by many and is gathering more attention due to the rebrand changes then I wouldn't say that Twitter or X will fall anytime soon.
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August 16, 2023, 01:56:49 AM
By the way, I am the only one who thinks that rebranding Twitter as X is a bad idea?
This social media has been known as Twitter since it's conception and its name had become well known among both users and outsiders of it. And now suddenly it changed to X.

To me does not make much sense to move from a brand and name which was already very popular and easily recognizable to everyone to a new one.

It would be something similar if Pepsi or Coca Cola decided to rebrand themselves as "W" or "Y". Is this something you would do as a CEO ? Be honest.
Of course I would not, to me keeping the image and logo of the company is more intelligent.

I see nothing bad in such rebranding. They have changed only the name of the wrapping, but the taste of candy stayed the same. It was amatter of time when we will see X. X stands for synenergy, compilation of products. Elon told that he is planning to turn twitter into something more than just instrument to share ideas. I trully believe that it is early to evaluate Elon, Twitter and what he did or will do with it. We will see the effect of this deal in years only.
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August 15, 2023, 11:41:01 PM
Well maybe there is not a fall of twitter anymore. Because before Elon Musk bought it it was going to look like it was going to become bankrupt.
But now the CEO Linda Yaccarino is saying it is almost to point of breaking even. She says a reason is that they reduced the staff from 8000 to only now 1500 people.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/10/ceo-says-x-formerly-twitter-is-close-to-break-even/
Well, Twitter will still survive under Elon's ownership. Several months ago, Twitter was predicted to be outdone by its new competitor, namely a new social media platform designed similar to Twitter, namely Threads. But as we see today Twitter remains unbeaten. And I think Twitter users are still loyal to Twitter to this day. And Threads only gained popularity at the start of its release and now the hype is starting to drop.

Elon has good plans for Twitter, namely to become a social media platform that will potentially become a bridge in cross-border payments.
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August 15, 2023, 10:14:14 PM
By the way, I am the only one who thinks that rebranding Twitter as X is a bad idea?
This social media has been known as Twitter since it's conception and its name had become well known among both users and outsiders of it. And now suddenly it changed to X.

To me does not make much sense to move from a brand and name which was already very popular and easily recognizable to everyone to a new one.

It would be something similar if Pepsi or Coca Cola decided to rebrand themselves as "W" or "Y". Is this something you would do as a CEO ? Be honest.
Of course I would not, to me keeping the image and logo of the company is more intelligent.

That was my first impression as well. But then, Elon is the richest person in the world and he might have done this after thinking about the consequences. Despite being one of the most popular social media platforms, the revenue generation potential of Twitter is still underutilized. It generates only a fraction of the revenue that other platforms such as Facebook generate. So Elon might be hoping to start afresh, with a new brand name. He probably wants to leave the old baggage behind and move on. And some of the new ideas such as revenue distribution towards content generators sounds exciting for me.
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August 15, 2023, 12:32:10 PM
By the way, I am the only one who thinks that rebranding Twitter as X is a bad idea?
This social media has been known as Twitter since it's conception and its name had become well known among both users and outsiders of it. And now suddenly it changed to X.

To me does not make much sense to move from a brand and name which was already very popular and easily recognizable to everyone to a new one.

It would be something similar if Pepsi or Coca Cola decided to rebrand themselves as "W" or "Y". Is this something you would do as a CEO ? Be honest.
Of course I would not, to me keeping the image and logo of the company is more intelligent.

For sure Elon has something on his mind, it's like some other brand upgrading their signature name into something new that people would tend to acknowledge in the meantime. We all have been attached with the "Twitter" since it's been running for a long time, we also have seen some crypto related like doge logo posted in the twitter since Elon is advertising it. It might be changing of design becoming into modern style? Because Elon Musk it's not just a simple CEO that are relying on Twitter. He's actually a billionaire so he could actually whatever he likes on Twitter and the fact that he bought it. If you also research about Elon, you could see that his first company based on my research is called "SpaceX". So I think that is his inspiration for naming Twitter as X.
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