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legendary
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October 20, 2023, 03:17:49 AM
So basically it will cost a dollar to create a fully working twitter account. Auto registration and account seller will be the next to get rich. On one hand, $1 a year isnt much, specially when we pay monthly 9.99 for Netflix, 13,99 for YouTube premium, 14,99 for Amazon prime and 7,99 for Spotify. On the other hand, those who did not want to pay a dollar can always do what most of bots do - follow and read.
YouTube premium, Amazon prime and Spotify are services for which it is difficult to find a worthy replacement, and as for social networks, it seems to me that the situation here is different, you are right that a dollar is a small fee, but if this is a new user and he has not yet understands the benefits of Twitter for himself, then perhaps he will not want to pay anything but will go and register where it will be free for him.

Actually all of the mentioned services can be used for free. Same seems to be with Twitter. $1 fee per year will be charged if you want to post anything yourself. Reading others tweets is free. New user can  spend time reading others, get more familiar with platform and only then make a payment. Seems fair. We all also started using YouTube, Spotify and etc without premium subscription. And nowadays, when everything is much expensive than 5 years ago, $1 is nothing. I think everyone can easily find dollar worth coins on the street during year, or earn that. 
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October 20, 2023, 02:28:19 AM
Well now Elon Musk is consdiering to take Twitter out of the EU because of the investigation in compliance. It has to do with the new rules created in August called the Digital Services Act (DSA).

I think Elon Musk just is upset with EU watching his moves. I do not really think he will remove it from EU. https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-considers-removing-x-platform-europe-over-eu-law-insider-2023-10-18/
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October 19, 2023, 03:14:42 PM
Well now Elon Musk is going to fight bots with the 'Not a Bot' program he is starting. It will begin in countries of New Zealand and the Philippines for price of $1 each year.

New accounts will be allowed to tweet, reply, quote, repost, like, bookmark, and create lists. I think this is a good start to fight off the bots.

https://www.engadget.com/x-is-starting-to-charge-new-users-1-per-year-to-send-tweets-000925191.html

Maybe you'll get rid of a few bots but you will also drive away legitimate users by putting up a paywall to use Twitter. Real users might not want to pay even $1 because using centralized payment systems usually involves disclosing personal information. Bot farms won't care and will just buy up old accounts from non-paywalled users for pennies on the dollar. This will deteriorate the quality of the site even more which will drive out more users, which will drive out advertisers, which will lead to more rent seeking from Musk. He is creating problems for the purpose of selling the solution.

Since no solution has been found for bots, a normal user has to pay for the changes made. I don't think this is the right behavior. I don't care about the problems caused by the existence of bots. I am an ordinary user.

Offering a very popular application for a fee may cause the loss of many users. There are always alternatives, I think Elon should remember that.
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October 19, 2023, 02:49:01 PM
Well now Elon Musk is going to fight bots with the 'Not a Bot' program he is starting. It will begin in countries of New Zealand and the Philippines for price of $1 each year.

New accounts will be allowed to tweet, reply, quote, repost, like, bookmark, and create lists. I think this is a good start to fight off the bots.

https://www.engadget.com/x-is-starting-to-charge-new-users-1-per-year-to-send-tweets-000925191.html

Maybe you'll get rid of a few bots but you will also drive away legitimate users by putting up a paywall to use Twitter. Real users might not want to pay even $1 because using centralized payment systems usually involves disclosing personal information. Bot farms won't care and will just buy up old accounts from non-paywalled users for pennies on the dollar. This will deteriorate the quality of the site even more which will drive out more users, which will drive out advertisers, which will lead to more rent seeking from Musk. He is creating problems for the purpose of selling the solution.
Well you do have the point but in relation to the problem, then whats your solution to this? Fighting bots which it is really indeed a common problem.Come to think that these people are billionaires
and its impossible that they havent been able to think up clearly on what would be the solution for this yet no matter how strong your security is but having those bypasses could really be still that possible
and this isnt something that solely that Twitter/X is suffering into but also in other industries as well on which solution cant really be that perfected. This is why he do came up on having the idea on
imposing that $1 fee or sub amount or whatever called it is. You do have the point on telling that people would really be just simply buying up those accounts considering that it is cheap.
Dont know if this one would really be that a final amount or price or there's still chance that it would be changed up.

People do really love just that focusing about its cons without even trying out to see its pros and benefits or for the sake of safety. People do really love on discriminating and keeps on telling that this is for the sole
purpose of making money which i could say its really just that normal. He's running a platform at the same time running a business that he had bought for multi millions on which it would really be just that
right that he would really be trying out to get some amount or profit with those kind of actions which its none of our business imho.
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October 19, 2023, 02:24:22 PM
Well now Elon Musk is going to fight bots with the 'Not a Bot' program he is starting. It will begin in countries of New Zealand and the Philippines for price of $1 each year.

New accounts will be allowed to tweet, reply, quote, repost, like, bookmark, and create lists. I think this is a good start to fight off the bots.

https://www.engadget.com/x-is-starting-to-charge-new-users-1-per-year-to-send-tweets-000925191.html

Maybe you'll get rid of a few bots but you will also drive away legitimate users by putting up a paywall to use Twitter. Real users might not want to pay even $1 because using centralized payment systems usually involves disclosing personal information. Bot farms won't care and will just buy up old accounts from non-paywalled users for pennies on the dollar. This will deteriorate the quality of the site even more which will drive out more users, which will drive out advertisers, which will lead to more rent seeking from Musk. He is creating problems for the purpose of selling the solution.
legendary
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October 19, 2023, 02:10:29 PM
So basically it will cost a dollar to create a fully working twitter account. Auto registration and account seller will be the next to get rich. On one hand, $1 a year isnt much, specially when we pay monthly 9.99 for Netflix, 13,99 for YouTube premium, 14,99 for Amazon prime and 7,99 for Spotify. On the other hand, those who did not want to pay a dollar can always do what most of bots do - follow and read.
YouTube premium, Amazon prime and Spotify are services for which it is difficult to find a worthy replacement, and as for social networks, it seems to me that the situation here is different, you are right that a dollar is a small fee, but if this is a new user and he has not yet understands the benefits of Twitter for himself, then perhaps he will not want to pay anything but will go and register where it will be free for him.
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October 19, 2023, 09:20:40 AM
Elon Musk's social network is losing audience after the entrepreneur came to power...
Analytical company Similarweb summed up the results of the first year of X (formerly Twitter) under the leadership of Elon Musk. As it turned out, over the past 12 months, the social network has lost a significant part of its audience: in September 2023, the portal’s audience in the United States decreased by 19% compared to last year. A similar situation arose in other countries, including Australia (-17.5%), Germany (-17.9%), France (-13.4%) and the UK (-11.6%).

Global traffic to the desktop platform was down 14% year-over-year, and U.S. mobile traffic was down 17.8%. In addition, advertisers are gradually leaving Twitter. Over the past year, traffic in the advertising section of ads.twitter.com has decreased by 16.5% and continues to fall.

https://www.similarweb.com/blog/insights/social-media-news/x-twitter-musk/
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October 19, 2023, 08:23:29 AM
So basically it will cost a dollar to create a fully working twitter account. Auto registration and account seller will be the next to get rich. On one hand, $1 a year isnt much, specially when we pay monthly 9.99 for Netflix, 13,99 for YouTube premium, 14,99 for Amazon prime and 7,99 for Spotify. On the other hand, those who did not want to pay a dollar can always do what most of bots do - follow and read.
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October 18, 2023, 05:51:07 AM
Well now Elon Musk is going to fight bots with the 'Not a Bot' program he is starting. It will begin in countries of New Zealand and the Philippines for price of $1 each year.

New accounts will be allowed to tweet, reply, quote, repost, like, bookmark, and create lists. I think this is a good start to fight off the bots.

https://www.engadget.com/x-is-starting-to-charge-new-users-1-per-year-to-send-tweets-000925191.html
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October 14, 2023, 11:42:34 PM
Yes I think you are right we must not take the account so seriously. But we are normal people and when we see spotting of 'satoshi' we all get excited to think what if it is the real person.

And now we must ask ourself why now if the account doing this. And why did he take a long time off. Or maybe even it is satosi and he is just late to join Twitter.
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October 10, 2023, 02:48:09 AM
The twitter account for Satoshi is now sending out cryptic messages. It was a tweet in reverse '4202 raey eht ni ecnedive fo stol htiw delaever eb lliw ma I ohw fo yretsym ehT'.

And what it says is '“The mystery of who I am will be revealed with lots of evidence in the year 2024'. https://twitter.com/satoshi

LOL.. Bio says "Joined May 2018".. I would not waste anytime on this account, as it was setup by some scammer. But I am surprised that the account @satoshi went unclaimed until 2018. Why no one noticed it? Anyway, the only account that was created by the real Satoshi is here in Bitcointalk. Here is the account, and it was created back in 2009:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/satoshi-3

Satoshi is actually the third user to register to this forum. He joined on 19th November 2009 and was active here for close to 13 months. This was the last post that he made (12th December 2010):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29479
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October 10, 2023, 01:12:15 AM
The twitter account for Satoshi is now sending out cryptic messages. It was a tweet in reverse '4202 raey eht ni ecnedive fo stol htiw delaever eb lliw ma I ohw fo yretsym ehT'.

And what it says is '“The mystery of who I am will be revealed with lots of evidence in the year 2024'. https://twitter.com/satoshi
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October 09, 2023, 02:31:47 PM
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Twitter (now called X).

Every time I see this I think its a mistake, their corporate value is partly contained inside that brand name.  Literally they created a new verb, their brand name became part of the English language and yet its discarded as though worthless.
  Why could they not have X and Twitter and use both at same time, I see no problem with that.  Really a move disliked by the majority of people imo and quite pointless.  
  
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advertisers are coming back
He wants to be famous, now he is infamous of doing such things. Who would have thought that the riches man in the world would start talking about DOGE in the first place?

Now he rebranded the Twitter, changed it to 'X' what a clueless and useless name for a social media platform. I see what he is trying to do here, he wanted to be noticed, recognize for some stupid stuff, and get called genius for making rockets. I saw the drop of Twitter users after this bold and crazy move.

I would imagine that is true.  Doesnt have to be that this website is run perfectly for companies to want their adverts to appear on the site and its traffic of quite mainstream people, various demographics etc.   Advertising is a global marketplace, before Bitcoin came to be it was said advertising is the lifeblood of the internet because it provided revenue to sites that would have none otherwise and created content and the paid the people for it basically.  Its quite true, its a positive and also an ongoing demand companies want to pay twitter or X because it has the traffic, simple as that nobody has to conclude they like Elon Musk but I see adverts on all kinds of iffy websites and X is no worse then them.
That's the blood of social media paltform, advertisement is their common or main source of revenue aside from some paid features. I see facebook turning all-in-one social media where you can buy goods as well, they are pretty much the same actually.
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October 09, 2023, 12:23:04 PM
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Twitter (now called X).
Every time I see this I think its a mistake, their corporate value is partly contained inside that brand name.  Literally they created a new verb, their brand name became part of the English language and yet its discarded as though worthless.
  Why could they not have X and Twitter and use both at same time, I see no problem with that.  Really a move disliked by the majority of people imo and quite pointless.  
Yup, and there's no way i would adjust calling twitter other than twitter, ever. And luckily i am not in a position i can decide to do that. I won't be downloading the app. And will use desktop version if i need my account again. But it's always twitter to me.

He is like a rich bully in the playground who buys the public playground and kicks your sand castles down if you don't bow to him.
While saying that it's not called a playground anymore, that we have to call it park of losers or he kicks us out.

He can just kick everyone's account if "tweets" and "twitter" are too much of slurs to him. I wouldn't mind. He already killed twitter

Well technically he is not CEO. It's Linda Yaccarino now, who is claiming that advertisers are coming back. Which is most likely a lie. But she is paper ceo anyway as musk definiltely wants to control everything. That's why he bought it.
For someone like Elon, if he doesn't plan it, it's almost impossible. Even though their plans are strange, creative and genius people are different from ordinary people. Elon's plan has been fulfilled, namely firing Twitter employees he doesn't like or reorganizing Twitter so that later the team at Twitter can handle/control everything, even remotely. From the start, Elon did not intend to handle Twitter directly, which is why he is not currently serving as CEO of Twitter.
People stick to believing this genius branding that he build, but he is no genius. He wasn't a child prodigy, but a normal bright child with autism from wealthy family. I would even suspect him having mild inattentive ADHD because of his childhood troubles at the school. And i m suspecting he might be self medicating symptoms, as it's public info he takes small doses of ketamine.
And this is not a diss, i have autism and adhd too, and there's nothing wrong with those. It just explains some of the eccentric behavior.



He desperately wants to be edgy and cool, noticed and adored.


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October 09, 2023, 02:57:22 AM
Well technically he is not CEO. It's Linda Yaccarino now, who is claiming that advertisers are coming back. Which is most likely a lie. But she is paper ceo anyway as musk definiltely wants to control everything. That's why he bought it.
For someone like Elon, if he doesn't plan it, it's almost impossible. Even though their plans are strange, creative and genius people are different from ordinary people. Elon's plan has been fulfilled, namely firing Twitter employees he doesn't like or reorganizing Twitter so that later the team at Twitter can handle/control everything, even remotely. From the start, Elon did not intend to handle Twitter directly, which is why he is not currently serving as CEO of Twitter.

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I see no way that he would like to be out of spotlight. That's all he ever wanted, attention and acceptance. Now there's a crowd that accepts and adores him. And i am thinking that's why he bought it with overvalued price, so he could tap on that without any rules he don't like.
Yes, that's right, I like Elon because he is very democratic, he wants Twitter to be a platform with freedom of opinion. Where other platforms have difficulty doing that.

What is in the spotlight is that he decided to change his name to "x". Just changing the logo/brand design can sometimes fail, now is he changing the logo/design + brand name? The Twitter name has stuck and it's almost impossible for anyone else to claim it. From this we can judge that Elon Musk likes the challenge of wanting to be noticed and in the spotlight by many groups.
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October 09, 2023, 12:09:47 AM
Twitter is the most used social media application worldwide. By buying this platform, Elon Musk did not buy a social media app. Elon Musk bought the data of millions of users. He also bought the ability to manipulate millions of users. This is the equivalent of godlike power. I think it's priceless to have that power. And I think behind closed doors there is the possibility of monetizing that power.
that could be the case. but it seems so far elon just want to purely monetize those hundred millions of users that previously were considered so much waste of potential by the previous twitter management.
but so far, elon's strategy in monetizing twitter has been quite controversial honestly though he has made hundred millions out of it and his idea of selling blue tick and gold tick badge itself just already earn him some huge chunk amount of money.
i wonder what would be elon's next strategy in further monetizing the twitter, it seems quite interesting honestly seeing elon with his unique strategy.

The money he makes from selling bule and yellow ticks won't be much because most of Twitter's revenue comes from advertising so what he needs to do is attract more companies and users. According to some information I have, he wants to turn X into a super application, not just a simple social network like twitter in the past. Furthermore, I agree with what Flipme said, he has a bigger goal for Twitter than just making money. Twitter is America's favorite social network and it is very beneficial for things like political manipulation and that is Elon's real goal. I wouldn't be surprised if Elon enters a future presidential election.
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October 08, 2023, 08:33:32 PM

Elon Musk is Top-notch in his abilities and moves.
I think there is a target behind every actions and he might come up with a big hints someday.

I know it has been a big challenge to many users.
Mostly he might be scared of defeat so he's taking it so lightly like nothing is wrong but he should come up with good inputs to all of this as it's  not helping.
he can be making mistake but honestly such enigmatic person like elon is definitely hard to predict, he is a billionaire not without any reason.
he definitely has his own reasoning and whether it would succeeds its still a question but I believe that even if his plan with twitter fails he's still got billions on his arsenal to make it up though.
definitely a risk taker i'd say.
but honestly with twitter the way he could make his money back is rather obvious just enforce monetizing and thats it, he's already set.
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October 08, 2023, 06:10:34 PM
It can change over time but it seems that many people hated Elon for such actions about the instant laying off of his employees.
This is like the protest and backlash that he's getting from that action that he did back before.
It's not surprising when many users of the great Twitter have stopped using it and also about the verified badge monthly subscription, many just didn't like it too.
Elon Musk is acting like an authoritarian leader, his actions of terminating his employees will be a ticking time bomb for Twitter's future. He tries to replace employees by relying on Bots, he seems to forget something that there are certain parts that can only be completed by humans and cannot be completed by Bots.
Many Twitter users are starting to get bored with the appearance of the Twitter application after it was acquired by Elon Musk, so they are slowly starting to rarely use the platform which is now known as X. I'm starting to assume there will be new competitors who can bring down X if Elon Musk is still too authoritarian, Moreover, I heard news about Elon Musk's intention to charge fees to users of the platform.
The reason why Elon Musk is acting all this way is because Twitter (X) has yet to have a competitor that could challenge it. If Twitter had, a strong social media competitor, Elon Musk wouldn't have been acting authoritatively like doing whatever he chooses at any given time. Just imagine that every Twitter user had to pay before they could have access to Twitter. That sounds absurd to me.

If this is to be implemented, Elon Musk should consider many people leaving Twitter as the cause of the development
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October 07, 2023, 07:50:22 PM
Twitter is the most used social media application worldwide. By buying this platform, Elon Musk did not buy a social media app. Elon Musk bought the data of millions of users. He also bought the ability to manipulate millions of users. This is the equivalent of godlike power. I think it's priceless to have that power. And I think behind closed doors there is the possibility of monetizing that power.
that could be the case. but it seems so far elon just want to purely monetize those hundred millions of users that previously were considered so much waste of potential by the previous twitter management.
but so far, elon's strategy in monetizing twitter has been quite controversial honestly though he has made hundred millions out of it and his idea of selling blue tick and gold tick badge itself just already earn him some huge chunk amount of money.
i wonder what would be elon's next strategy in further monetizing the twitter, it seems quite interesting honestly seeing elon with his unique strategy.
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October 07, 2023, 07:38:32 PM
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Twitter (now called X).

Every time I see this I think its a mistake, their corporate value is partly contained inside that brand name.  Literally they created a new verb, their brand name became part of the English language and yet its discarded as though worthless.
  Why could they not have X and Twitter and use both at same time, I see no problem with that.  Really a move disliked by the majority of people imo and quite pointless.  
  
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advertisers are coming back

I would imagine that is true.  Doesnt have to be that this website is run perfectly for companies to want their adverts to appear on the site and its traffic of quite mainstream people, various demographics etc.   Advertising is a global marketplace, before Bitcoin came to be it was said advertising is the lifeblood of the internet because it provided revenue to sites that would have none otherwise and created content and the paid the people for it basically.  Its quite true, its a positive and also an ongoing demand companies want to pay twitter or X because it has the traffic, simple as that nobody has to conclude they like Elon Musk but I see adverts on all kinds of iffy websites and X is no worse then them.
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