Elon Musk guesses who bitcoin's mysterious creator Satoshi Nakamoto is

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Quote from: Ozero on February 14, 2022, 06:21:27 AM

I see that Elon Musk is really looking for opportunities to increase his rating using the topic of cryptocurrency. I don’t know why he needs this, because he is already widely known all over the world thanks to his space exploration and the idea of \u200b\u200bexploring Mars, as well as the Tesla electric car company.
If Satoshi Nakamoto himself does not want to show up, no search for him or guessing who exactly used this pseudonym will give results. It is most likely that this will remain a secret forever.

Something secret certainly makes everyone curious. Some people don't really want further knowledge of who satoshi are, but if someone who can reveal the identity of satoshi is then considered an invention and achievement, people will be busy pursuing that achievement with some research or nothing (just a controversy statement). In fact (imo), the person who can reveal who is satoshi is satoshi.

After all, famous people can be covered in the news media easily. When their exposure has dwindled, they like to do "crazy" or "unnecessary" things.

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Quote from: Ozero on February 14, 2022, 06:21:27 AM

I see that Elon Musk is really looking for opportunities to increase his rating using the topic of cryptocurrency. I don’t know why he needs this, because he is already widely known all over the world thanks to his space exploration and the idea of \u200b\u200bexploring Mars, as well as the Tesla electric car company.
If Satoshi Nakamoto himself does not want to show up, no search for him or guessing who exactly used this pseudonym will give results. It is most likely that this will remain a secret forever.

And with that being said buddy we can't deny that Elon Musk really have had the power to hype a certain project like what he did to Doge. What I mean is I really don't know also what this man really wanted to prove to everyone but without a doubt this man has a power that influences people's decision and choices. But with the fact that he guesses who is bitcoin's mysterious creator Satoshi Nakamoto I don't think so if he could provide the appropriate name for it to reveal to human kind who is Satoshi Nakamoto is.

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Quote from: Spacebar96 on January 27, 2022, 04:34:00 PM

Elon has spoken, he's good at guessing but I don't think nick Szabo is the real Satoshi nakamoto . Will Satoshi nakamoto forever remain anonymous?
Let wait and see......

I see that Elon Musk is really looking for opportunities to increase his rating using the topic of cryptocurrency. I don’t know why he needs this, because he is already widely known all over the world thanks to his space exploration and the idea of \u200b\u200bexploring Mars, as well as the Tesla electric car company.
If Satoshi Nakamoto himself does not want to show up, no search for him or guessing who exactly used this pseudonym will give results. It is most likely that this will remain a secret forever.

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Quote from: Spacebar96 on January 27, 2022, 04:34:00 PM

Elon has spoken, he's good at guessing but I don't think nick Szabo is the real Satoshi nakamoto . Will Satoshi nakamoto forever remain anonymous?
Let wait and see......

Everyone does have their freedom of speech and it is just that a billionaire had made out some guess doesn't mean it would be most likely be Satoshi which is definitely a wrong thing.

Speaking about anonymity of Satoshi then who knows whether he decides to come out or remain hidden forever? People doesn't really stop on finding Satoshi no matter what

which do in results on presuming out people even though it is really just too far off when it comes to probability.

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Elon has spoken, he's good at guessing but I don't think nick Szabo is the real Satoshi nakamoto . Will Satoshi nakamoto forever remain anonymous?
Let wait and see......

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Quote from: Hydrogen on December 30, 2021, 08:01:30 AM

The debate continues...

And this is a never ending debate. Everyone including Elon Musk can only guess who is Satoshi Nakamoto but no one knows in reality who was he. The only existence of Satoshi Nakamoto is the "Satoshi" account on this forum. Other than this i am not ready to believe if anyone claims himself to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

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Quote from: Gamerholic on January 27, 2022, 10:19:19 AM

Does it really matter who Satoshi Nakamoto is today? Quite a lot of time has passed so that we have already let go of this issue as not as significant as, for example, what will happen to cryptocurrencies in the coming years. How the governments of countries will behave - to prohibit or legalize cryptocurrencies and their mining, work with them. In my opinion, the choice is obvious - since this is a great way to create a lot of jobs from scratch and, in fact, a new branch of the economy that generates income for the state treasury (taxes). So it doesn’t matter who Satoshi is anymore - what matters is what will happen to his legacy in the world of the cryptocurrency world.

We should indeed let Satoshi Nakamoto remain anonymous as he wishes, at least we respect his decision by not finding out his identity.
After all, many people from all over the country have been trying to find out the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto and not a single one
has succeeded. So why are we forcing ourselves to find out who Satoshi Nakamoto really is, we're just wasting our time, because I believe
that no one will be able to find out the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. So it's better to just focus on Bitcoin which is the creation of
Satoshi Nakamoto, because Bitcoin has been proven to provide benefits if we use it well, so use our time for useful things.

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Does it really matter who Satoshi Nakamoto is today? Quite a lot of time has passed so that we have already let go of this issue as not as significant as, for example, what will happen to cryptocurrencies in the coming years. How the governments of countries will behave - to prohibit or legalize cryptocurrencies and their mining, work with them. In my opinion, the choice is obvious - since this is a great way to create a lot of jobs from scratch and, in fact, a new branch of the economy that generates income for the state treasury (taxes). So it doesn’t matter who Satoshi is anymore - what matters is what will happen to his legacy in the world of the cryptocurrency world.

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Whether satoshi is the name of a real person or just a group of people or a powerful organization and they call themselves satoshi nakomoto i am sure anyone who wants to know who satoshi's identity is for sure will not get the result now elon musk the whole world is looking for him who is satoshi nakamoto but no country yet find the answer let alone an Elon Musk forming a team to find out the identity of Satoshi this will definitely be in vain.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on December 30, 2021, 10:42:55 AM

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on December 30, 2021, 10:26:12 AM

Elon can guess so as we so please consider it as very simple guess. Don't over exaggerate its importance because the joke is from Elon.

More important, who is real satoshi nakamoto now not important, isn't it?

It would be nice to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is, right? But I agree that not knowing the personality of Satoshi is detrimental on everyone’s part. Yes, it is a mystery that everyone has been looking forward to unlock but not being able to do so doesn’t result and mean anything bad. We could all guess who Satoshi is, including Elon Musk, by that will be all guesses at the end of the day.

The main thing is that, apparently, we will never know who was hiding under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. Assumptions and conjectures will remain so and will not add anything to the mystery of the creator of bitcoin. The creator of bitcoin hid his identity well and most of the participants in this market agree that it will be better for bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general.
Elon Musk's speculation about the possible identity of Satoshi Nakamoto does nothing to bring us closer to unraveling this mystery. Let this remain a secret.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on January 02, 2022, 03:46:39 PM

Quote from: tyz on January 02, 2022, 09:58:00 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on January 01, 2022, 11:12:09 AM

I personally don't care if it is Elon Musk or a random guy who says he thinks who Satoshi might be.

In the wording Musk did not say that he knows who Satosthi is, but only what he believes or considers most likely. And there was the name Nick Szabo. Of course, you could dismiss this as pure speculation, but maybe Elon Musk knows more than we do. However, as I already said, I personally don't believe that Szabo is Satoshi. But I guess everyone has their own opinion on that.

Not sure what to think about this whole Elon Musk/crypto thing. He may have a hidden agenda, but the guy does have a history of doing some odd things. Well, at least Musk didn't say Craig Wright was Satoshi. That has to count for something. I wonder if CSW will sue Musk for defamation? lol

Each action would have a particular intent which it isnt known because we dont know on how their mind works or what plans that they do have on which they do proclaim out things which the entirely

make out reactions on the entire community even if they do know that revealing satoshi is close to impossible thats why he do really make himself bit funny with those kind of claims.

If he does then its good but if not then people would be ending up on having a bad impression to him but well lets see on what happens.

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Quote from: tyz on January 02, 2022, 09:58:00 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on January 01, 2022, 11:12:09 AM

I personally don't care if it is Elon Musk or a random guy who says he thinks who Satoshi might be.

In the wording Musk did not say that he knows who Satosthi is, but only what he believes or considers most likely. And there was the name Nick Szabo. Of course, you could dismiss this as pure speculation, but maybe Elon Musk knows more than we do. However, as I already said, I personally don't believe that Szabo is Satoshi. But I guess everyone has their own opinion on that.

Not sure what to think about this whole Elon Musk/crypto thing. He may have a hidden agenda, but the guy does have a history of doing some odd things. Well, at least Musk didn't say Craig Wright was Satoshi. That has to count for something. I wonder if CSW will sue Musk for defamation? lol

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Quote from: Hydrogen on December 30, 2021, 08:01:30 AM

The debate continues...

Elon Musk appears to have a pool of smart people he works with to discuss topics like these. It appears Nick Szabo is the leading candidate in their upper tier of their intelligentsia. If it is Nick Szabo he must be one of those who avoids media attention and the spotlight. In contrast to the Craig Wright's of the world, Szabo tends to keep a low profile.

Its been claimed linguistic analysis of bitcoin whitepapers best match Nick Szabo's writing style. But I don't remember specifics or examples being cited. Does anyone know which specific words or phrases were claimed to link Nick Szabo's writing style to any of the whitepapers authored by Satoshi Nakamoto?

It's kind of nice to live in a world of (good) mysteries and if Satoshi wanted to make themselves known then they would have done so already. I'm sure if they're still alive they're getting more than enough pleasure from the the whole new financial world that they have spawned and the marvelous new uses of blockchain technology that are taking place every day. A decentralized currency is a powerful tool against oppressive governments and stands alongside free speech as something that every freedom loving person should allow and embrace. Writing comparison is a very powerful tool however, as we all write in certain ways that can be compared like a fingerprint - so that is pretty powerful evidence.

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Again Elon Musk introduces his agenda for discussion. But the question arises, is it very important to know who the creator of Bitcoin is, or are there more important questions? It is believed that Elon Musk is again taking the crypto message in a different direction, or simply, as already indicated above, to PR in order to be always relevant in the media. But still, how can information about who such Satoshi help the successful development of the crypto industry? But what if the received answer, on the contrary, makes the crypto industry worse? It's strange that no one thinks about it.

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Quote from: Lucius on December 31, 2021, 09:26:55 AM

--snip--
Since no one mentioned Wei Dai, I will say that it is possible that he is Satoshi - although he has repeatedly denied this possibility. What we do know is that Satoshi was very familiar with the work of Wei Dai and contacted him several times while working on the project.
--snip--

I don't believe Satoshi could be Wei Dai because Satoshi could be his fan or disciple based on what the theory elaborated in your mentioned article, and it doesn't directly relates to Satoshi being him. However, this debate is a never-ending debate because even if Satoshi himself shows up some day but says that he lost the private key of his address where he's got his BTC, trust me nobody will believe even the real Satoshi Nakamoto to be him only and the debate will continue.

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I thought it was hilarious seeing Elon be asked if he was satoshi. The fact he felt he actually needed to clarify he wasn't was a bit funny to me. I saw a meme that perfectly described it... It showed Elon denying being satoshi and then said, "nobody thought you were." Which I felt was pretty accurate.

Elon does some pretty amazing stuff, but he isn't sitting around at night trying to code a new global financial unit. He thinks crypto is a neat little game but his attention goes toward making mankind a multi-planetary species. The fact is that Elon probably knows less about crypto than many people on this board, but his knowledge of money and criticisms of Bitcoin are valid. Bitcoin developers who think they know more about money than the richest person on earth should probably give themselves a reality check...

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I’m wondering how this could be of much importance if we came to know about whose real satoshi? In one of the discussion it was concluded that Satoshi might be hidden because he just don’t like the idea to be presented in front of the world or may be he has his own privacy concerns. I think none of this matters for real Satoshi and that’s why we should not be much worried about real charmer.

Let him be where he is and live his life at the fullest. He might have crossed us on the beach holding pint of beer or could be standing next to burger guy!

For curiosity the discussion is fine. But come on let him live for God Sake. Grin

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Quote from: tyz on January 02, 2022, 09:58:00 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on January 01, 2022, 11:12:09 AM

I personally don't care if it is Elon Musk or a random guy who says he thinks who Satoshi might be.

In the wording Musk did not say that he knows who Satoshi is, but only what he believes or considers most likely. And there was the name Nick Szabo. Of course, you could dismiss this as pure speculation, but maybe Elon Musk knows more than we do. However, as I already said, I personally don't believe that Szabo is Satoshi. But I guess everyone has their own opinion on that.

And this is also just speculation that keeps haunting my mind. I won't mention his name, but the one he is "ranked 2 in Most Merit" https://bpip.org/ seems to know better than Elon Musk about who Satoshi is. Maybe, again this is just my wild speculation, which still doesn't find a valid statement.

Back to the many articles that I found, and in the end, all said the most responsible candidate so far Nick. However several times Nick denied the accusations even in 2014 if I'm not mistaken he emphatically said: "I'm not Satoshi". Seeing the wordplay from Mr @franky1 is enough to make me waver and love the game and word counting.

From the abstraction found in the article Nick Szabo, 1997 generally describes the line of thought regarding smart contacts which is considered the forerunner to the emerging version of Bitcoins.

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Abstract "Smart contracts combine protocols with user interfaces to formalize and secure relationships over computer networks. Objectives and principles for the design of these systems are derived from legal principles, economic theory, and theories of reliable and secure protocols. Similarities and differences between smart contracts and traditional business procedures based on written contracts, controls, and static forms are discussed. By using cryptographic and other security mechanisms, we can secure many algorithmically specifiable relationships from breach by principals, and from eavesdropping or malicious interference by third parties, up to considerations of time, user interface, and completeness of the algorithmic specification. This article discusses protocols with application in important contracting areas, including credit, content rights management, payment systems, and contracts with bearers".

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Elon Musk needs to learn to stay mute about certain topics, he doesn't need to give his thoughts on every topic that goes round the crypto ecosystem if he wants to remain relavant and making his comments now and giving an opinion based on what is already in the public domain changes nothing. But his input is well appreciated, hope he doesn't make a new enemy with Craig Wright who seems not to be his candidate.

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to add a bit of old fuel to the speculation fire, how about some todler cryptography

Quote from: franky1 on January 11, 2016, 07:56:25 AM

its not nick..
but i do love some of the theories and 'proofs'

the funniest one is using the letters of his name
someone said nicks middle name was thomas

NICK THOMAS SZABO

take the C and the B change them to numeric (c=3 b=2)
3x2=6
6= 1 and 1 and 1 and 1 and 1 and 1
1=A and 1,1,1,1,1 (A and five 1's)
1,1,1,1,1= 3 and 2
3x2=6
6=3 and 3
3x3=9

take the Z and change it to numeric (z=26)
26+9=35

just note that the missing letters of satoshi nakamoto from nick thomas szabo are O=15 T=20 =35

so numerically we can see there is a conversion method for CZB=AOT
now take out the CZB nick thomas szabo and add in the AOT

NICK THOMAS SZABO
NIK THOMAS SAOAOT

now mix them letters up from:
NIK THOMAS SAOAOT

to:

S (NIK THOMAS AOAOT)
SA (NIK THOMAS OAOT)
SAT (NIK HOMAS OAOT)
SATO (NIK HMAS OAOT)
SATOS (NIK HMA OAOT)
SATOSH (NIK MA OAOT)
SATOSHI (NK MA OAOT)
SATOSHI N (K MA OAOT)
SATOSHI NA (K M OAOT)
SATOSHI NAK ( M OAOT)
SATOSHI NAKA ( M OOT)
SATOSHI NAKAM ( OOT)
SATOSHI NAKAMO ( OT)
SATOSHI NAKAMOT ( O)
SATOSHI NAKAMOTO

i know nick is not, but i just liked this bit of speculation and wordplay.. put a smile on my face

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